Republican convention

[Honda TRX250ex]

I think that Giuliani has some great points. What do you guys think.

[bean2080]

yea i think he did too. i keep on wondering why im really watching it though because its all biased anyway :confused:

[Honda TRX250ex]

Originally posted by bean2080
yea i think he did too. i keep on wondering why im really watching it though because its all biased anyway :confused:
How so? its a convention not a debate.

[bean2080]

Giuliani just kept on going on and on about how Mccain knew how to lead a country because he was in a war or something and how Obama didnt. Im likeing Sarah though as of now atleast, it seems like she has a decent head on her shoulders.

[Quad18star]

Originally posted by bean2080
Giuliani just kept on going on and on about how Mccain knew how to lead a country because he was in a war or something and how Obama didnt.

You mean the same Giuliani , that during the Republican Primaries, slammed McCain saying that McCain couldn't run a country because he has "never run a city, never run a state, never run a government."
:rolleyes:

Seems like that's the same tactics that they are using against Obama .... atleast that's what Palin said lastnight.... in those exact same words as Giuliani used months ago against McCain.

Politics is full of hypocrites.

I agree with this statement from another member on here..

"Picking a president is like picking 2 pieces of poop out of the toilet. Either way, they suck, it's just a matter of the one that sucks less"

Believe it or not, I think Palin is the first politican ive seen that has somewhat of a head on her shoulders.

But they're all scum whether you like it or not. In this case, the republicans are the less smelly, smushy poop. And obamas the diahreah you just dont want to even go near:devil:

[450raider]

actually it seems to me that the gop convention is turning out much better than that other party convention ...... communists?.... no, but something like that lol, all the other convention had was numbers, yes they filled an area but how many of those people even knew what was going on or what they were even there for??? it sure wasnt listening thats apparent......

Mccain - Palin 08
real change, accept no imitations

[Ralph]

Originally posted by DMC-4OOEX
I agree with this statement from another member on here..

"Picking a president is like picking 2 pieces of poop out of the toilet. Either way, they suck, it's just a matter of the one that sucks less"

Believe it or not, I think Palin is the first politican ive seen that has somewhat of a head on her shoulders.

But they're all scum whether you like it or not. In this case, the republicans are the less smelly, smushy poop. And obamas the diahreah you just dont want to even go near:devil:

Have you heard all the scandals? Bullying people around etc.

Yes, as a governor she had experience running a city, state, etc. and she showed how she uses power.

Originally posted by 450raider
actually it seems to me that the gop convention is turning out much better than that other party convention ...... communists?.... no, but something like that lol, all the other convention had was numbers, yes they filled an area but how many of those people even knew what was going on or what they were even there for??? it sure wasnt listening thats apparent......

Mccain - Palin 08
real change, accept no imitations

Hahaha.

At the democratic convention, without actually saying it they were saying that america sucks, and we need to tax people twice as much to make it better.

All these stories about having an empty seat at the table, and not being able to afford colledge. So how the hell is taxing us supposed to help:confused:

And tax for education isn't the answer either. For example, my school takes in more tax than where im moving, honesdale highschool. That school is rated way better and is a much nicer school in general.
I think a lot of it has to do with good teachers and smart thinking. Taxing people to oblivion and throwing money at the school's isn't going to provide better teachers and a better school in general.

[Honda TRX250ex]

Mccain is going to be on tonight around ten. Should be interesting to see what he has to say.

[Pappy]

Originally posted by DMC-4OOEX
So how the hell is taxing us supposed to help:confused:


I dont care what political affiliation your in, my opinion is that they (government) can have more of my money through taxes when they show me they can properly and responsibly handle what they are taking now!

[Drewltr450]

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Originally posted by Pappy
I dont care what political affiliation your in, my opinion is that they (government) can have more of my money through taxes when they show me they can properly and responsibly handle what they are taking now!

Very true, but Obama won't do that. He's in this for the power.. he can give two craps about america and our economy.

Plus he plans on going after the oil companies for the high oil prices, then tax them even more on it. WTF will that do other than raise the prices of gas?

I just think Obama is one scary mother f'er. Im republican, but if I had to choose between Obama and Hilarly, I would go hilary.

Hopefully McCain and Palin will do something, and make a good change.

Drewltr450
Of course, come in here, post some BS, with no factual or useful information. Bash him just because he's republican. Do you care to explain why? I bet you won't.

[Drewltr450]

Everyone i talk to says they are not voting for obama because he is african american and because he studys the muslim religion. That is absurd. A large group of people think that all muslims are terrorists and because you see a man walking down the street with a turbin on his head people think he is or assume he is a terrorist. I personaly have been to the middle east and have met the people that live there and all i can say is they are some of the nicest most kind hearted people i have ever met. The only reason people think that all muzlins are terrorists are muzlim is because a couple of muzlims with alot of money desides to go and blow s*** up everywere because the united states are greedy power hungry A** H***** that are trying to police the whole world doesnt mean that all muzlins are terrorists. I also personaly go to a school were there population of african americans is very high about 65% of my school (wich is made up of about 1200 student) are african americans and alot of them are my friends and are no diferent than a caucasian person. If you are not voting for obama because of thoses 2 reasons i talked about you are a rasist and deserve nothing better than to be treated just like the african americans were treated not a very long time ago in our own country.

[Drewltr450]

This country does not need another republican look were they have lead us already. In a pointless war just to line the palotitions pockets with more money. If you look at every human or natural catastrophy or war that has happened anywere around the world the only time we have gone and helped is when there was something in it for us. Look at the countrys in africa right now going through cival wars killing eachother and dieng from aids and notice we have done NOTHING to help. you know why. What is in africa that we need. There's no oil or anything we can profit and benafit from. Vote democrat 08

Originally posted by Drewltr450
Everyone i talk to says they are not voting for obama because he is african american and because he studys the muslim religion. That is absurd. A large group of people think that all muslims are terrorists and because you see a man walking down the street with a turbin on his head people think he is or assume he is a terrorist. I personaly have been to the middle east and have met the people that live there and all i can say is they are some of the nicest most kind hearted people i have ever met. The only reason people think that all muzlins are terrorists are muzlim is because a couple of muzlims with alot of money desides to go and blow s*** up everywere because the united states are greedy power hungry A** H***** that are trying to police the whole world doesnt mean that all muzlins are terrorists. I also personaly go to a school were there population of african americans is very high about 65% of my school (wich is made up of about 1200 student) are african americans and alot of them are my friends and are no diferent than a caucasian person. If you are not voting for obama because of thoses 2 reasons i talked about you are a rasist and deserve nothing better than to be treated just like the african americans were treated not a very long time ago in our own country.

See, you're assuming that's how I feel. You're assuming that we all think that. Well you're completely wrong.

First of all, I can give two chits if he's black. I have black friends. Some of them are actually nice, it's only the ones that act like we owe them that I hate. I never owned a slave, and they were never a slave, so we don't owe them crap. They're another living person just like me.

Second of all, I also don't give a rats @ss if he's muslim. But look at the people he hangs out with. He hangs out with terrorists.. Pure real terrorist's. He went to a church with an anti-white piece of crap, rev. wright. I quote this:
Wright: "God Bless America? God damn America!"

He's friends with ludacris, who refers to woman as biches and ho's. Who made a very ignorant immature song bashing and dissing all of our candiates while kissing Obama's arse.

So you can take your anti-white racist theories and shove them you know where:macho

[Honda TRX250ex]

I believe that no one here wouldn't vote for him just because hes black. That would be absurb. What isn't is someone who woulden't vote for him cause of his political views. I personality do not believe in most of the ideas that obama supports.

Originally posted by Drewltr450
This country does not need another republican look were they have lead us already. In a pointless war just to line the palotitions pockets with more money. If you look at every human or natural catastrophy or war that has happened anywere around the world the only time we have gone and helped is when there was something in it for us. Look at the countrys in africa right now going through cival wars killing eachother and dieng from aids and notice we have done NOTHING to help. you know why. What is in africa that we need. There's no oil or anything we can profit and benafit from. Vote democrat 08

Yeah, and you know what obama's going to do? He's going to give all of our power away to other countries. Make us the next africa. While we all can't afford gas because it skyrockets to $6.00. We lose our job's from not being able to afford to commute.
Then soon after to pay double the taxes for what? Nothing. They will do nothing to help us. They will destroy our country as we know it.
People being forced to foreclosures from being taxed up the arse, not being able to afford a mortgage.

Im not sticking up for Bush, he made some mistakes and spends like a teenage girl in a shopping mall, but the democrats will just make it worse..

We need another Reagan. He was a good president, and really made us the people believe in our country.

[Drewltr450]

Vote for who you wana vote for well see who's the better candidate in november.

darn demcrats want to race small business tax a rediculous amount! how is that helping the economy? that just puts the small guys out of business and we will see more bankrupcy and forecloser. i doubt obama wont be in there long if he is elected or even he he makes it that far, so look at the VP veiws for the democrat rather than his lol McCain/Palin 08!!!!

[450raider]

Originally posted by Drewltr450
This country does not need another republican look were they have lead us already. In a pointless war just to line the palotitions pockets with more money. If you look at every human or natural catastrophy or war that has happened anywere around the world the only time we have gone and helped is when there was something in it for us. Look at the countrys in africa right now going through cival wars killing eachother and dieng from aids and notice we have done NOTHING to help. you know why. What is in africa that we need. There's no oil or anything we can profit and benafit from. Vote democrat 08


i mean this in the most respects but oh boy, here we go again honetly if disagreeing with sodama and his views make me racist then just go ahead and sign me up, its not gonna matter in another 2 months anyway.... secondly yeah id gladly help africa, ill throw a dollar in the hat to build them theyre very own trojan factory its not what we need from them, but rather what they need the most, lastly its the communist i mean democratic congress that got us in the mess were in now by what cutting us off our own oil and raising minimum wage? yeah just another reason for distributors to raise prices oin stuff well thougth out....

[jrspawn]

Man this is another topic that could get messy quick:eek:

But drewltr450, i agree for someone to NOT vote for another JUST based on their race is pretty messed up. But, let me ask you this question. How do you feel about all the people that ARE voting for him based on just his race?

Thank you
Justin

[jrspawn]

Also forgot to ad, i myself would never vote for a muslim(dont care if your white, black, yellow, red, blue, or whatever!) to run our country. Call me what you want to call me. This is America(in the spartan voice:D ) And i would like to see fellow Americans run it!

Thank you
Justin

I hope he doesn't get in.. We'll become the United States of Ahmahrica.

i'm no gonna lie i'm racist but who isnt. seriously every race has made fun of another at one point. whether or not i am i dont like Obama's views and what he wants to do. McCain/Palin 08!!!

[trx400EXtreme]

Originally posted by jrspawn
Man this is another topic that could get messy quick:eek:

But drewltr450, i agree for someone to NOT vote for another JUST based on their race is pretty messed up. But, let me ask you this question. How do you feel about all the people that ARE voting for him based on just his race?

Thank you
Justin i not only think its stupid for someone NOT to vote for Obama because he's black, i think it's even more stupid TO vote for him because he's black. before i go on, im not racist againslt black people, im racist against all people who have there pants at there aknles....black or white. anyway, pretty much all the black kids at my school are walking around with Obama shirts on JUST because he's black. they dont know a thing about him, other than the color of his skin. that really pisses me off.

[Drewltr450]

Look at arnold shwartzearger wtever how you spell his last name ( the governator) He is from austrailia was a body builder and a movie star and is now one of the most sucessfull governors in california's history. If obama was not a fellow american he would not be alowed to run for president. He is just as american as any other person in the country. This country is a country of immigrants. Look back into your family's history you came from a differnt country than the u.s. i guarantee it. Look at all the illegal immagrents from across the mexican bored for example. If 2 illegal Mexicans come into this country and one becomes pregnant and has a baby on u.s. soil that baby is a u.s. citizen. But it doesn't matter just because he was born here means hes a full u.s. citizen RIGHT?!?!?!. Your from another country one way or another. So is obama. Obama is still a fellow american.

[Drewltr450]

Im not saying vote for obama because he is black or muslim im saying dont not vote for him just because he is black or follows the muslim religion. Thats what i was trying to get across in my first post.

[Drewltr450]

Ill say it again Vote for who you think is more fit to run this country ill come back to this thread in november.

[Anvil]

Originally posted by Drewltr450
Look at arnold shwartzearger wtever how you spell his last name ( the governator) He is from austrailia was a body builder and a movie star and is now one of the most sucessfull governors in california's history. If obama was not a fellow american he would not be alowed to run for president. He is just as american as any other person in the country. This country is a country of immigrants. Look back into your family's history you came from a differnt country than the u.s. i guarantee it. Look at all the illegal immagrents from across the mexican bored for example. If 2 illegal Mexicans come into this country and one becomes pregnant and has a baby on u.s. soil that baby is a u.s. citizen. But it doesn't matter just because he was born here means hes a full u.s. citizen RIGHT?!?!?!. Your from another country one way or another. So is obama. Obama is still a fellow american.

Schwarzenegger was from Austria not Austrailia.:cool:

[Anvil]

Originally posted by jrspawn
Also forgot to ad, i myself would never vote for a muslim(dont care if your white, black, yellow, red, blue, or whatever!) to run our country. Call me what you want to call me. This is America(in the spartan voice:D ) And i would like to see fellow Americans run it!

Thank you
Justin

You don't think your fellow Americans can be muslim? Exactly what religion can your fellow Americans be?

[Drewltr450]

Originally posted by Anvil
You don't think your fellow Americans can be muslim? Exactly what religion can your fellow Americans be?
Took the words from my mouth.

[Drewltr450]

I think this thread should be locked and sticky'ed till november

[jrspawn]

To me, just because your born on American land doesnt make you a fellow American in my eyes. Might legally make you a citizen, but i do not agree with that.

And as far as the religion question. That was MY view! MY take on what i feel. Just like YOU have your OWN views and takes on religion and beliefs, RIGHT?!?!?!?!?

[Drewltr450]

Originally posted by trx400EXtreme
i not only think its stupid for someone NOT to vote for Obama because he's black, i think it's even more stupid TO vote for him because he's black. before i go on, im not racist againslt black people, im racist against all people who have there pants at there aknles....black or white. anyway, pretty much all the black kids at my school are walking around with Obama shirts on JUST because he's black. they dont know a thing about him, other than the color of his skin. that really pisses me off. I hate the fact that McCain picked the governor of alaska just so that he could get the hilary vote in the election. I do agree that voting for obama just because he's black is dumb.

[Anvil]

Originally posted by jrspawn
To me, just because your born on American land doesnt make you a fellow American in my eyes. Might legally make you a citizen, but i do not agree with that.

And as far as the religion question. That was MY view! MY take on what i feel. Just like YOU have your OWN views and takes on religion and beliefs, RIGHT?!?!?!?!?


I would be interested in what you consider an American citizen then?

Just lucky the American consitution protects Americans citizens from people with prejudices like yourself that would desciminate against other Americans because of thier religion.

[jrspawn]

Yup, i guess your right.

And far as citizenship, my whole gripe is i dont feel its right to grant citizenship to those whose families are illegally here. I just do not understand it, i know your probably gonna fire back on me on that one also. But honestly, i just dont agree/understand it.

[Rastus]

Originally posted by Drewltr450
This country does not need another republican look were they have lead us already. In a pointless war just to line the palotitions pockets with more money. If you look at every human or natural catastrophy or war that has happened anywere around the world the only time we have gone and helped is when there was something in it for us. Look at the countrys in africa right now going through cival wars killing eachother and dieng from aids and notice we have done NOTHING to help. you know why. What is in africa that we need. There's no oil or anything we can profit and benafit from. Vote democrat 08


This country doen't need a Marxist either, Google it if you don't know what it means. I don't care that he's black, I would vote for Colin Powell easily. What's even more racist is blacks voting for him for the sole reason that he's black, doesn't get any more stupid than that. Add his taxes, no experience, and his "civilian security force" and he starts to sound quite scary. I quote- "We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded." Can you say, Gestapo and Brown shirts? :ermm:

So, I guess WW1, WW2, Korea, Vietnam, Grenada, Panama, Iran hostage crisis, and the tsunamis and hurricanes in recent years, were all just used to make politicians money, eh? :rolleyes:
Please, the amount of aid the US sends to foreign gov'ts is quite substantial if you would actually look it up.

[Ralph]

I need as many people to answer this because it still baffles me.

DOES ANYONE REALLY STILL THINK OBAMA IS A MUSLIM?

If you do, no matter who you vote for i suggest you skip out on the polls this year...

[Ralph]

Originally posted by jrspawn
To me, just because your born on American land doesnt make you a fellow American in my eyes. Might legally make you a citizen, but i do not agree with that.

And as far as the religion question. That was MY view! MY take on what i feel. Just like YOU have your OWN views and takes on religion and beliefs, RIGHT?!?!?!?!?

So may i ask how you became a fellow American?

[jrspawn]

I became an american from yes being born here, from a LEGAL family line of americans.

AGAIN, MY WHOLE POINT ON THIS IS THAT OF WHICH I DO NOT AGREE WITH ILLEGALS ENTERING OUR COUNTRY AND THEN BEING REWARDED FOR IT.

Thank you
Justin

[jrspawn]

And for the record, i for one am not saying obama is muslim. Im sure we have all heard of his strong christian backround and his former pastor.

[Ralph]

Originally posted by jrspawn
And for the record, i for one am not saying obama is muslim. Im sure we have all heard of his strong christian backround and his former pastor.

you would be surprised by how many people think he is a Muslim. It shows how ignorant people are. We are talking about the "Black Kids" who blindly vote for Obama, but what a about all the people doing the same exact thing on the other side.

Originally posted by jrspawn
Also forgot to ad, i myself would never vote for a muslim (dont care if your white, black, yellow, red, blue, or whatever!) to run our country. Call me what you want to call me. This is America(in the spartan voice:D ) And i would like to see fellow Americans run it!

Thank you
Justin


Originally posted by jrspawn
And for the record, i for one am not saying obama is muslim Im sure we have all heard of his strong christian backround and his former pastor.

lol what?

EDIT: oh BTW... America was founded so people could belive in what ever religion they pleased. So you could be a Jew, a Christian, or a Muslim. So you saying Obama isn't American is the dumbest thing you could say. Your a n00b at America. Oh and he's not Muslim.

Originally posted by Ralph
I need as many people to answer this because it still baffles me.

DOES ANYONE REALLY STILL THINK OBAMA IS A MUSLIM?

If you do, no matter who you vote for i suggest you skip out on the polls this year...

I agree, I think a lot of people(mostly kids on this forum) should skip voting this election. But then again, there all just pissed off at the world 14 y/o's who hate Obama because they think there redneck.

[bradley300]

Originally posted by Drewltr450
This country does not need another republican look were they have lead us already. In a pointless war just to line the palotitions pockets with more money. If you look at every human or natural catastrophy or war that has happened anywere around the world the only time we have gone and helped is when there was something in it for us. Look at the countrys in africa right now going through cival wars killing eachother and dieng from aids and notice we have done NOTHING to help. you know why. What is in africa that we need. There's no oil or anything we can profit and benafit from. Vote democrat 08

is it america's responsibility to cure the ills of the rest of the world? please show me that passage in the consitution (you know, that old piece of paper that is supposed to dictate our government, but is usually trampled on by democrats and there "living document" crap). we have more than enough of our own problems to be worried about everyone elses epidemics or policing the world.

[ZeroLogic]

Originally posted by bradley300
is it america's responsibility to cure the ills of the rest of the world? please show me that passage in the consitution (you know, that old piece of paper that is supposed to dictate our government, but is usually trampled on by democrats and there "living document" crap). we have more than enough of our own problems to be worried about everyone elses epidemics or policing the world.

Good point.

[Robin Hood]

Originally posted by bradley300
is it america's responsibility to cure the ills of the rest of the world? please show me that passage in the consitution (you know, that old piece of paper that is supposed to dictate our government, but is usually trampled on by democrats and there "living document" crap). we have more than enough of our own problems to be worried about everyone elses epidemics or policing the world.

So why did Republican Bush send us over to the middle east? Why are we sacrificing American Citizens to fight for THEIR DEMOCRACY?

This thread is full of pig headed left and right wing nut jobs. I'm throwing my vote in the ****ing garbage this year. Neither of these candidates would help my MIDDLE CLASS FAMILY and our small construction business which isn't doing well at all since the illegal immigrants that Bush let in are taking all my dad's work.

Originally posted by Robin Hood
So why did Republican Bush send us over to the middle east? Why are we sacrificing American Citizens to fight for THEIR DEMOCRACY?

This thread is full of pig headed left and right wing nut jobs. I'm throwing my vote in the ****ing garbage this year. Neither of these candidates would help my MIDDLE CLASS FAMILY and our small construction business which isn't doing well at all since the illegal immigrants that Bush let in are taking all my dad's work.

Im in a similar position.

My dad owns a machine shop. Immigrants never hurt it, but when clinton was in office, business spiraled down. We struggled and barely paid our bills.

Things finally started picking up a couple months ago, and now we're busy. But Obama getting into office will destroy our business. And i'm so afraid of that. Plus, they're going to tax his business to death.

Owning a small business is tough.

All the candidates suck this year, but anything is better than obama.

And I love it. After 8 years of all the democrats bashing George Bush, obama's the best they can come up with?

:rolleyes:

We need another reagan.

[450raider]

yeah a whole other 8 years of bush is wayyyy better than sodama, now they say on the news them comms i mean dems are gonna send clinton to attack palin, will clinton sink yet another low?, heres my proposal.... lets gives the comms......dems the silent treatment :D, if we act like theyre not around theyll eventually go away, even if sodama buys this win (or steals it rather) im never gonna call him president...... not all of us have to pay for the other partys poor judgement and screwups...

[bradley300]

Originally posted by Robin Hood
So why did Republican Bush send us over to the middle east? Why are we sacrificing American Citizens to fight for THEIR DEMOCRACY?

This thread is full of pig headed left and right wing nut jobs. I'm throwing my vote in the ****ing garbage this year. Neither of these candidates would help my MIDDLE CLASS FAMILY and our small construction business which isn't doing well at all since the illegal immigrants that Bush let in are taking all my dad's work.

i didnt say I liked what Bush is doing, personally he is one of the worst at wiping his ***** with the constitution. ( no child left behind is as unaffective as is is unconstitutional, show me where the constitution gives the national government power over all public education-it doesnt)

as private citizens of America and the world, as well as being decent human beings we have a duty to help those in need but this can not be a government duty, when people (congressmen/representitives) start spending other peoples money (taxpayers) its too easy to over do it, or worse yet ask for more since it dosent matter to them how much of someone elses money they spend. once they help one person, they have to help everyone.soon this spins out of control into all of our current issues. this only makes the government larger, and more ineffective. the government needs a harness on its power to best serve the taxpayers. that harness is the well crafted constitution that gives the natioanl government very specific powers, which are sadly usually ignored

[Cron]

Originally posted by Ralph
I need as many people to answer this because it still baffles me.

DOES ANYONE REALLY STILL THINK OBAMA IS A MUSLIM?

If you do, no matter who you vote for i suggest you skip out on the polls this year...


straight from the horses mouth

http://washingtontimes.com/news/2008/sep/07/obama-verbal-slip-fuels-his-critics/

I've never mistaken myself as a Muslim

If anything it shows how bad he is at speaking without reading a telepromter

[bradley300]

i sure dont like obama, but that was an easy slip of the tongue. he is talking about people think he is a muslim, so the topic is on his mind, just slipped, nothing anyone else hasnt done

[ZeroLogic]

If hes a Christian, how come he didn't say the pledge of allegiance before? I know he says it now. But I don't get it.:confused:

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a357/zerologic/PledgeAndObama.jpg

[bradley300]

how do you know that pic is the pledge? it could easily be the national anthem, in which holding your hand over your heart OR standing with your hands folded are both acceptable

[troybilt]

All good points...

Probably not high on everyone's list, but its up there on mine, about 4-5th from the top.

My question is this which one is going to fight to keep our riding areas open? Which one is going to fight to close the riding areas that we love?

[bradley300]

Palins husband races snowmobiles so i would say they are the best at at least not closing areas

[extremeblastr]

anybody who has the balls to come into this thread and start calling republicans and other people who aren't going to vote obama needs to open their eyes and see the things that follow this man, he is a virtual unknown, he associates himself with people who carry themselves in very unacceptable ways in the publice eye, and he keeps saying hes the first candidate who is going to bring real change which scares the s**t outta me because the only things i've heard about him changing are all negative. the man has to many skeletons in his closet for me to even want to see him get as far as he has. there are a lot of african americans out there who would be 1,000 times better as a presidential candidate, and i hate to know that things are this way but mark my word if obama gets elected he will be assasinated and there is no way around it.



heres some things to maybe help you see what racism is really about

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this one shows you how much he really thinks his race is another thing he can add to the list of things that mean he deserves to be this far

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he will do nothing but breed more hate and discontent betweent he races, there are democrats out there who would help the country a lot, and plent of african americans who could do the same but i am absolutely positively sick of hearing about how racist everyone who doesn't support obama is, obviously if he really was a good candidate you would have other things to use to back yourselves up.........


but on the other hand mccain is not the answer either........

[Ralph]

Books Sarah Palin Wanted Banned (Update: List has not been proven to be from Palin)

A Clockwork Orange by Anthony Burgess (most un-Christian ultra-violence not in the cause of Christian warriors)

The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn by Mark Twain (not sure why but I know a bannable book when I see it!)

A Wrinkle in Time by Madeleine L'Engle

Annie on My Mind by Nancy Garden

As I Lay Dying by William Faulkner ("N"-word and disrespectful to Confederacy)

The ******* by John Jakes (its naughty title an attack on the idea of childbirth only after holy wedlock -- did you hear that, Bristol???)

Blubber by Judy Blume (general naughtiness, faintly salacious title)

Brave New World by Aldous Huxley (utopianism and socialism)

Bridge to Terabithia by Katherine Paterson (unwholesome fantasy)

The Canterbury Tales by Chaucer (classic smut, or smoote, if you will; un-Christian depiction of female sexual desire)

Carrie by Stephen King (Christian girls shouldn't know about menstruation)

Catch-22 by Joseph Heller (mocks the military; disrespectful of God's calling to kill enemies, both foreign & domestic)

The Catcher in the Rye by J.D. Salinger (promotion of morbid individualism, lack of respect for caring, nurturing parents and teachers)

The Chocolate War by Robert Cormier (subversion of Christian fund-raising endeavors)

Christine by Stephen King (disrespectful of classic Detroit automobiles and sacred MADE IN USA in a Saipan Sweatshop" ethos)

The Color Purple by Alice Walker (attack on fundamental values keeping a Christian home and society together by well-known socialist)

Confessions by Jean-Jacques Rousseau (Christian children shouldn't be exposed to masturbating Utopians who are ur-Communists)

Cujo by Stephen King (disrespectful of dogs, a Christian man's best friend)

Curses, Hexes, and Spells by Daniel Cohen (black magick!)

Daddy's Roommate by Michael Willhoite (promotion of ***gotry)

Day No Pigs Would Die by Robert Peck (disrespectful of Christian values in denigrating "the other white meat"; promotion of un-Christian vegetarianism, which is particularly distasteful in gun 'n huntin' happy Alaska where Sarah Palin rules as Diana, Mistress of the Hunt)

Death of a Salesman by Arthur Miller (mocking the American Dream and Protestant Work ethic; NOTE: Marilyn Monroe's commie-symp non-Christian ex-husband defied the House Un-American Activities Committee which was doing God's own work by attempting to clean out the Hollywood pig sty)

Decameron by Boccaccio (classic filth, or fylthe if you will)

The Devil's Alternative by Frederick Forsyth (provides comfort to Lucifer, the Son of the Morning Star, the Enemy of the One True God)

East of Eden by John Steinbeck (teenage rebellion, unauthorized interpretation of Book of Genesis, written by commie-symp)

Fallen Angels by Walter Myers (disrespectful of God's chosen agents of change)

Fanny Hill (Memoirs of a Woman of Pleasure) by John Cleland (Dirty Book, or "D.B." if you will -- Along with Lady Chatterly's Lover and Tropic of Cancer, this is the granddaddy of all D.B.s!)

The Figure in the Shadows by John Bellairs ("figure" is a word that can be used for naughty ends to promote naughty minds)

Flowers For Algernon by Daniel Keyes (debases belief in miracles)

Forever by Judy Blume (smut for teenagers)

The Grapes of Wrath by John Steinbeck (witches brew of socialism and smut; promotes cruelty to animals, specifically, our terrapin friends)

The Great Gilly Hopkins by Katherine Paterson

Grendel by John Gardner (bad language, disrespectful of classic Nordic literature no one has ever read)

The Handmaid's Tale by Margaret Atwood (attack on author's Christian fundamentalist betters)

Halloween ABC by Eve Merriam (pagan evil)

Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone by J.K. Rowling (see above)

Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets by J.K. Rowling (ditto)

Harry Potter and the Prizoner of Azkaban by J.K. Rowling (ditto)

Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire by J.K. Rowling (ditto)

Have to Go by Robert Munsch

Heather Has Two Mommies by Leslea Newman (lesbian crap responsible for rising popularity of Ellen on boob tube)

The Headless Cupid by Zilpha Snyder

How to Eat Fried Worms by Thomas Rockwell (promotion of unsanitary eating habits)

Huckleberry Finn by Mark Twain (Samuel Clemens mocked Christianity as the one true religion)

I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings by Maya Angelou (unacceptable indictment of white Christian paternalism towards our benighted dark brothers and sisters, one with us in Christ)

Impressions edited by Jack Booth (unknown, but author does share surname with authentic Confederate, er, American hero who fought tyranny!)

In the Night Kitchen by Maurice Sendak (promotes un-Christian eating habits)

It's Okay if You Don't Love Me by Norma Klein (author is suspected to be non-Christian)

James and the Giant Peach by Roald Dahl (offended Georgia fruit lobby)

Lady Chatterley's Lover by D.H. Lawrence (D.B., see note Fanny Hill)

The Learning Tree by Gordon Parks

Leaves of Grass by Walt Whitman (unwholesome gay propaganda wholly injurious to young, developing Christian minds)

Little Red Riding Hood by Jacob and Wilhelm Grimm

The Living Bible by William C. Bower (undermines the literal Word of God!)

Lord of the Flies by William Golding (see Note for It's Okay if You Don't Love Me)

Love is One of the Choices by Norma Klein (ditto)

Lysistrata by Aristophanes (it's a Greek thing and therefore unwholesome and un-Christian)

The Merchant of Venice by William Shakespeare (undermines the Christian ideal of the sanctity of a contract no matter who is party to the deal; on the other hand, it does feature a conversion to Christ)

More Scary Stories in the Dark by Alvin Schwartz (subversive)

My Brother Sam Is Dead by James L incoln Collier and Christopher Collier

My House by Nikki Giovanni

My Friend Flicka by Mary O'Hara (Papist pagan horse-worship by author with allegiance to anti-Christ in Rome)

The New Teenage Body Book by Kathy McCoy and Charles Wibbelsman (kiddie porn!)

Night Chills by Dean Koontz

Of Mice and Men by John Steinbeck (supports euthanasia for both man and beast)

On My Honor by Marion Dane Bauer

One Day in The Life of Ivan Denisovich by Alexander Solzhenitsyn (not quite sure about this one but obviously, if the say it should be banned, I'm for banning it!)

One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest by Ken Kesey (although its revelation of the Wall St.-money Easterners dominated "Combine" is appreciated, Kesey subverts American values by supporting euthanasia and offending the American Medical Association by an oblique attack on the medical profession via Big Nurse)

One Hundred Years of Solitude by Gabriel Garcia Marquez (commie-symp trash)

Ordinary People by Judith Guest (glamorizes suicide and teenage lust!

Our Bodies, Ourselves by Boston Women's Health Collective (pornography)

The Pigman by Paul Zindel

Prince of Tides by Pat Conroy (any book "good enough" for Barbra Streisand is good enough to be banned!)

Revolting Rhymes by Roald Dahl (filth)

Scary Stories 3: More Tales to Chill Your Bones by Alvin Schwartz

Scary Stories in the Dark by Alvin Schwartz

The Seduction of Peter S. by Lawrence Sanders (the "S" word)

Separate Peace by John Knowles (glamorization of Eastern Establishment that is in league with communist Russia)

The Shining by Stephen King (promotion of un-Christian spiritual values such as telepathy; promotion of unhealthy disrespect for paternal figures; historical revisionism -- someone told me that the book was an indictment of Christian America's treatment of the pagan red Indian)

Silas Marner by George Eliot (undermines notions of Christian thrift and industry)

Slaughterhouse-Five by Kurt Vonnegut, Jr. (mocks good Christian warriors and the Good War)

Tarzan of the Apes by Edgar Rice Burroughs (attack on Christian values)

Then Again, Maybe I Won't by Judy Blume (D.B. writer targeting teens)

To Kill A Mockingbird by Harper Lee (undermines Christian values by questioning the "peculiar" order of things in the South, possibly ghost-written by notorious homosexual)

Twelfth Night by William Shakespeare (celebration of pagan values by cross-dressing English fairycake)

Webster's Ninth New Collegiate Dictionary by the Merriam-Webster Editorial Staff (motherload of dirty words)

The Witches by Roald Dahl (Roald Dahl has a naughty mind!)

The Witches of Worm by Zilpha Snyder

Witches, Pumpkins, and Grinning Ghosts: The Story of the Halloween Symbols by Edna Barth (primer for pagans)

--------------- Discuss -------------

I wanna hear some peoples views on this...

Its being said she tried to have town librarian fired for resisting Censorship

[Pappy]

Interesting, 4 books on the list werent even out when she made the list as it includes four books that had not yet hit shelves when Palin became mayor in 1996 — "Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone," "Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets," "Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban" and "Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire," all by J.K. Rowling.

1996 is when she became mayor, and the same date from which this list was supposedly developed.

[ZeroLogic]

Originally posted by Ralph
--------------- Discuss -------------

I wanna hear some peoples views on this...

Its being said she tried to have town librarian fired for resisting Censorship

Its freedom of speech to write a book. If you don't like it, then who are you to say that no one is aloud to read it. No one should control what every adult should hear, the person should be able to pick and choose.

[Ralph]

Originally posted by Pappy
Interesting, 4 books on the list werent even out when she made the list as it includes four books that had not yet hit shelves when Palin became mayor in 1996 — "Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone," "Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets," "Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban" and "Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire," all by J.K. Rowling.

1996 is when she became mayor, and the same date from which this list was supposedly developed.

Im gonna have to thank you for doing what i should of done. I was careless and didnt double check the sources and it turns out the list is not accurate at all...

It is however said to be a catch-all list of all books that have been banned at one time or another in the US.

Either way, there are people who would love to see this books go and i'm still interested in hearing from both sides about the issue.

[Pappy]

No problem, just keep this in mind...12 years in office, zero books removed, banned etc.

[Cron]

Originally posted by Ralph


Either way, there are people who would love to see this books go and i'm still interested in hearing from both sides about the issue.

Only problem is that thing called the Bill of Rights. I really don't see how anyone could support banning any medium, it goes against all we stand for.

The exchange of ideas in a civilized manner does more for society than banning books/ideas.

I hope this is not a prelude into the resurrection of the fairness doctrine, that has nothing to do with banning books, it is about regulating free speech.

[Ralph]

Originally posted by Cron
Only problem is that thing called the Bill of Rights. I really don't see how anyone could support banning any medium, it goes against all we stand for.

The exchange of ideas in a civilized manner does more for society than banning books/ideas.

I hope this is not a prelude into the resurrection of the fairness doctrine, that has nothing to do with banning books, it is about regulating free speech.

from reading that list she just doesnt want evil stuff but some of those books c'mon i have read a few books on that list and they are not bad books.

i've read the following:

The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn by Mark Twain

Brave New World by Aldous Huxley (currently reading)

Grendel by John Gardner

James and the Giant Peach by Roald Dahl

To Kill A Mockingbird by Harper Lee

and i have seen some of the movies from some of those books but have not read the book. But is there proof of her trying to ban all of those or is someone just making up stuff to try and persuade others to not vote republican

[Pappy]

Originally posted by FoxHondaRider
But is there proof of her trying to ban all of those

nope