Need to vent.....

[Pappy]

Ok, hear me out.....


Cody wrecks

Doctors stitch up hole in leg and say no break

3 days later specialist calls and says femur is broke needs surgery

Infection found and is treated for 6 weeks with 24 hour IV

Infection doc (good girl, saved my life in 2005) says good to go after the 6 week treatment

Bone doc say no weight on leg for 12 weeks + (we follow his advice)

Last visit today.....

Bone doc says he see's a spot and thinks its infection (same spot visable on every xray from last 3 months)


Sooooooooo......

When we question him on why the spot hasnt changed shape, size or density (color) he starts back walking and gets worked up. Then starts stating he cant tell from xray alone blah blah blah. Which my point is why want surgery AGAIN based on the xray alone! He did not start talking blood work to verify infection until AFTER we caught his double talk!

He questioned my ability to look at an xray, I informed him that I stare at photographs all day long and can pick up on details as well as him and he then admits he see's no change in shape or density of spot on xray! More double talk!

MY wife and myself's gut both tell us this guy just lkoves to cut and will seek advice from the Infection doctor on best route of action......however.....

I know many people that have broken femurs clean through and did not have this kind of difficulties getting back in action. I have a feeling this guy just wants more insurance money, hell he is talking another 7 days in hospital after surgery when he told us during first post op visit if the screw had to be removed it is outpatient!!!

Sorry...just a wee bit pissed off

[sly400ex]

Definately seek another opinion. Our medical professionals these days can be down right scary!

[exrider12]

Wow! That is one bad doctor:eek2: . Its probably true that you can pick up on details than he can. So youre going to another doctor or are you doing something else? Any estimate on how long it will be until cody can ride again?

[Pappy]

cody rode this weekend...light riding nothing major

i told him that he can now do whatever he feels up to as long as he wears knee gaurds. its been almost 15 weeks..poor kid has suffered enough


we will make an appointment to have blood work done by the infection specialist and go from there. if the hardware in his leg has to be removed, it will be done by another doc

my gut rarely steers me wrong, uncany ability to read people is my greatest trait and it doesnt fail me often

[hondaking52]

I know how ya feel pappy!!!, last summer when i wrecked and my atv landed on my back i went to the hospital to get x-rayed and they said i was fine, next day they call me and i have a callapsed lung and i need to get to the hospital as soon as posible....(thats why it hurts alot!!):ermm: docters.......

[trailrider1156]

it's too bad they don't put on their medical degrees where in the class they graduated. like number 1 of 375, or 375 of 375.

I had a friend who in high school was the biggest pill poppin', drug takin' fool i had ever seen, headin' for nowhere. well, he's now a doctor. must of been practicing for his future back then. I would never go to this guy knowing that he cooked his brains for a few years before getting his act together. I do congratulate him on his accomplishments, he's just not gonna be my doctor.

[ricksmx865]

sorry to hear this pappy

this is exactly why i HATE goin to the doctor, they are rarely 100% certain on what is wrong yet recommend all sorts of unneccesary tests... and somehow always manage to disregard running the obvious ones :(

I agree with what trailrider said i wish one knew when they were going to a doctor if they were getting an A,B, or C doctor :huh

[wvspeedfreak]

Thanks to all the sue happy lawyers you are going to see less and less good doctors too.

Kenny,keep me informed of any new developments with the Codeman.

[diangelo#67]

no no no pappy you said it wrong
he doesn't love to cut he's paid to cut!

[Pappy]

Well we wont know anything until we getto chat with the infection doc...i have a feeling she will ask for a blood test and we shoudl be good to go from there.

cody will not be going back to the same doc if he does need the screw removed.

and mario...i may need a favor. a pro rider may need a custom helmet done next month....you in for something like that? we are doing a special color quad for an upcoming race etc

[crayfz]

Sounds like the right thing to do, go with the gut, I always do.

Why remove the screw? What harm could it do leaving it in. As for the spot, can't they mri or cat scan it? And even if it is infection, why would you need surgery to treat it? If the most powerful iv antibiotics didn't make it change shape or move then shouldn't that rule it out? Maybe it wouldn't be infected if he had washed his hands before surgery! Considering how bad you got from your infection though, I don't see how you would want to risk anything.

[wilkin250r]

Come on out to Tahoe, we have some of the best orthopedic surgeons in the nation!

[300exOH]

Wow...I can't believe these docs anymore. They go through half ***** training for a couple of years and then try to soak people (or insurance companies) for all they are worth. I've been around the medical field most of my life and I have had some bad experiences as well. I would definitely seek a 2nd and even 3rd opinion if necessary. I wouldn't let some of these meatball surgeons work on my lawnmower let alone my first born. Something definitely sounds fishy to me. Sounds to me like the doc needs a new Mercedes.:ermm: Like someone else said...the infection should easily be cleared up with some good antibiotics. The medical field has really gone downhill in the last 10 years or so. I'm sure the blood sucking lawyers aren't helping matters either.

Have you thought about making the trip to Cleveland clinic? They have some of the best docs in the world. It would be a long haul from your neck of the woods though.

Good luck to you and Cody. I hope you can get this straightened out. 15 weeks is a big chunk out of a young mans childhood.

[lorenjr83]

doctors suck! i like it when they tell you you need to lose weight and they look like a beached whale sitting in the chair.

pappy, i had several gut feelings a few weeks ago. i wish they would have not been true, but now i sit here single after 6 years of being married.

[IOWAracer]

i tore my MCl about two years ago in football went to the first doc and said no tear when you can walk jog when you can jog run when you can run full speed go back to football so i did and went back still in a little pain but i could do it....first game i got hit and twisted my knee fell on the ground pulled up my knee pads took off my EXSPENSIVE F*n knee brace to see that my knee cap was basically in pieces....

So now ive been out of riding and football for about 1 year and a half and finally started racing but im already graduated HS and too late to do what I was hoping to carry on to pay for my college if he had just looked at it better as my new docter said I would of been out for 3 weeks and in perfect condition! i still have some problems from it now but i go in for another surgery to smooth it all out in November so hopfully it goes well...

Broc

[Pappy]

Originally posted by lorenjr83


pappy, i had several gut feelings a few weeks ago. i wish they would have not been true, but now i sit here single after 6 years of being married.

EEEK!!!

My dad listened to his gut once..ended in divorce

He did not listen the second time and walked in on it...ended in divorce:p

Keep your chin up dude, no sense worrying about it, plenty of other women out there!

[Pappy]

Originally posted by IOWAracer


Broc

what pisses me off is that now i pretty much know this guy loves to cut, was the surgery needed to begin with:confused: i mean i kind of had to trust the guy but the first doc that saw CJ aand stitched him up said we had dodged a bullet and he would need a few weeks to heal up, but no breaks. at this point i just have to follow my gut and wait and see what a blood test shows.

the infection doc stated that after the 6 week IV that was main-lined into codys chest was complete, that there wouldnt be any more infection and if any remained it was impossible to remove it. supposedly any implant carries with it this infection and its quite normal. another friends crashed his street bike about a month ago, had same infection and was given 3 iv doses and was cleared....poor cody laid up here for 6 weeks with a 32 inch line in his chest:ermm: better safe then sorry i suppose.

it just sucks you dont know who you can trust these days.....

[byrdman37876]

sounds like the qauck in my part of the woods. the same doc that brought my baby boy into this world in oct.20.07 is being sued for not treating an 18 month boy for a simple to cure ailment that caused him to pass on to the loving arms of god (my prayers to his parents and god rest his soul :( ).

i was hit hard when i read that in the papers, i cant imagine what i would do if that were my own son.

[lorenjr83]

Originally posted by Pappy
EEEK!!!

My dad listened to his gut once..ended in divorce

He did not listen the second time and walked in on it...ended in divorce:p

Keep your chin up dude, no sense worrying about it, plenty of other women out there!

haha yeah this gut felling is ending i divorce too. the worst part is the 4 year old son!

but anyways. i dont really trust any doc. all they seem to want is your money. i have went in for some stuff and they wont do anything about it. they just say if it keeps up come back. well wtf my back has hurt for years. docs says its just a pulled muscle it will heal. yeah its Psoriatic Arthritis. for 2500 bucks a month i can feel a hell of alot better but i have to give my self a shot weekly, but i dont make that much money anymore so i live with the pain!

[trx310R#24]

Originally posted by Pappy
cody rode this weekend...light riding nothing major

i told him that he can now do whatever he feels up to as long as he wears knee gaurds. its been almost 15 weeks..poor kid has suffered enough


we will make an appointment to have blood work done by the infection specialist and go from there. if the hardware in his leg has to be removed, it will be done by another doc

my gut rarely steers me wrong, uncany ability to read people is my greatest trait and it doesnt fail me often

damn that sucks! good luck an just hope for the best!
it sounds to me that hes just trying to pass him around to make more money.. they tryed that with me one time (dont trust them)

[KXRida]

haha that's one reason why I don't want to be a doctor. I'll just be the guy who fixes you up after the doctor looks at yah. Hope Cody's doing well. It does kinda seem funny that he wouldn't go to any kinda of lab work before surgery. That's shocking and wrong. 7 days in the hospital after a surgery?!?!? They now make people get up and walking the next day after open heart surgery. After so many days the insurance companies will not pay full coverage if they don't feel the need too. That is one reason why new born babies are sent home within 24 hours unless a problem occurs. Post operative heart surgeries are sent home usually about day 3. After my cousin had his big crash, he only spent 6 days in the hospital and that included a full hip replacement and surgery on his collar bone. They shipped him off on his merry way. That doctor sounds like the guy you want to stay away from. Seeing how we're sorta from the same area, may I ask who it is and which hospital? If you don't want to release any information, that's fine. I'm just curious. The best hospital in my area is Altoona by far. Well now that altoona and bon secure are the same there isn't any competition really, but the main altoona hospital was light years ahead of bon secure.

[honda4life72]

owh boy lets talk about bad docs haha. my dad broke his neck like 8 years ago on a foreman 450. well he wrecked at like 12 at night. can stand but is in alot of pain in his neck/shoulder area. goes to hospital and gets xrays. doc says no your fine. go home. :macho my dad goes to work the next day (construction operates backhoes and skidsteers ect.) well his fingers begin to go numb and the pain has not stoped from the day before. goes back to a different doc. blew up two of his vertabraes and has a peice that has floated to his fingers , being why there going numb. :eek2: so yea we have had a bad doctor also. and yes my dad can still walk and everything . still works construction :macho

[KXRida]

Originally posted by honda4life72
owh boy lets talk about bad docs haha. my dad broke his neck like 8 years ago on a foreman 450. well he wrecked at like 12 at night. can stand but is in alot of pain in his neck/shoulder area. goes to hospital and gets xrays. doc says no your fine. go home. :macho my dad goes to work the next day (construction operates backhoes and skidsteers ect.) well his fingers begin to go numb and the pain has not stoped from the day before. goes back to a different doc. blew up two of his vertabraes and has a peice that has floated to his fingers , being why there going numb. :eek2: so yea we have had a bad doctor also. and yes my dad can still walk and everything . still works construction :macho


man glad to hear he's alright!!!!! That's scary!

[Pappy]

just chatted with the infection doc and she was pretty tweaked that the bone doc did not consult with her prior to wanting to schedule a surgery (gut was correct on what her response would be)


she said that it is entirely possible that the hardware will need to come out, but not tomorrow or even next week and that a blood test will tell her wether or not this should be done sooner then later etc. (we do not have health insurance for about another 60 days and she knows we dont have alot of money so working a time frame for us is a big plus as long as there are no serious health risks involved)

so now we can take a mini vacation next week and relax a bit, lord knows we all need it


and she agreed, we will find another bone doc

[Duke Nukem]

Glad things are starting to come together a little bit:ermm: Best of luck from me & my family Pap.

[Quad18star]

I know a great orthopedic surgeon if you need one. This guy took about 20 pieces of bone , reconstructed them , worked with over an inch of bone mising , and the leg has turned out not too shabby. ;)

Infections really SUCK !!! I just found out I have Lymphangitis . Going to need some heavy meds to get rid this now. :grr: