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renae
07-06-2008, 11:39 AM
Some parents should either take lessons in being a parent, or try racing themselves before they put so much pressure on their kids. We found a little boy that was hurt and scared on the track, but he was more worried that his dad would be mad and never let him race again because he didn't do good enough. He couldn't move his thumb and had hit his head, but he was only worried about his dad being mad, the kid was only 7 years old. The emt's looked him over and asked if he wanted to try to keep going, he was so worried about his dad he took off, but we saw him 2 minutes latter with the track crew and the medics going back to his pit. I believe in not giving up, but not in riding hurt to make someone else happy. If his dad was a racer he would be proud no matter how he did, as long as he had fun. My boy finished 15th in the 90 limited 8-11, but i was happy that he had fun and finished in 1 piece.

mcwilly
07-06-2008, 12:07 PM
Couldnt agree w/ you more. We were watching some bikes practice yesterday afternoon at a local track and there was a little boy (7-9 years old) ripping it up on a KTM. I guess his dad waved him in. When he got to the sidelines, he dad was screaming at him...pointing and yelling.
My son doesnt have his first race until later this month but we've already mentioned time and time again (he's worried about not winning :D ) that it doesnt matter if he wins....as long as he enjoys it and has fun while he's out there.
The parents at kids sports (baseball, soccer, hockey and basketball; I've witnessed them all) are far worse IMO.

renae
07-06-2008, 12:16 PM
this is supposed to be fun for the kids and build confidence for the coming years. IMO the parents that scream and yell at there kids and threaten them that if they don't finish and do good they will never race again is child abuse they don't lay a hand on them but hurt them mentally.

QuadJunkies
07-06-2008, 01:00 PM
Ive brought this up before in the past and I agree 110% .

Also,to the parents thats want there kids to" live the dream" they never did or wanted to do...

GO BUY YOUR OWN QUAD AND RACE, and let your kids have fun!
Alot of the times this kind of additude does nothing but set kids up to fee like a failure and takes all the fun away for them to the point they will lose all interest .
Ill never forget this local bike Dad... always drunk had his Son in tears bacuase 2nd place wasnt good enough!
I wanted to go up and hug that kid so bad and tell him good job.
:(

Still to this day that Father is tough on his kid and although he has turned out to be a heck of a rider and still races, deep inside I wonder if hes racing for himself... or for his "Dad".
It one thing to give them "constructive critisism " to teach them the right and wrong way to ride/race and to keep them from needless harm...
No matter how good or bad my kids do, Im always proud of them.

flht_db
07-06-2008, 03:30 PM
Originally posted by renae
Some parents should either take lessons in being a parent, or try racing themselves before they put so much pressure on their kids. We found a little boy that was hurt and scared on the track, but he was more worried that his dad would be mad and never let him race again because he didn't do good enough. He couldn't move his thumb and had hit his head, but he was only worried about his dad being mad, the kid was only 7 years old. The emt's looked him over and asked if he wanted to try to keep going, he was so worried about his dad he took off, but we saw him 2 minutes latter with the track crew and the medics going back to his pit. I believe in not giving up, but not in riding hurt to make someone else happy. If his dad was a racer he would be proud no matter how he did, as long as he had fun. My boy finished 15th in the 90 limited 8-11, but i was happy that he had fun and finished in 1 piece.

Somerset right? Yeah I talked to the track worker after he brought the kid back. Kid was a little guy. Said the kid was really upset about his dad not letting him race.

I had one finish 14 in 8-11 modified and one 9th in the 12-15 modified (after rolling down the hill into the woods).

flht_db
07-06-2008, 03:56 PM
Originally posted by renae
My boy finished 15th in the 90 limited 8-11, but i was happy that he had fun and finished in 1 piece.

Is this your son?

renae
07-06-2008, 04:07 PM
yes that is my boy. It was his first race of the year. His quad has been down since May and he is not sure about our local series so we came back to the GNCC were we have been in the racing family for 10 years.

flht_db
07-06-2008, 04:18 PM
I saw some of the write ups and pics you used to do on the youth racing in the GNCC.

This is our first year in the GNCC, full season for my older son, partial for the younger one.

guy310
07-07-2008, 09:53 AM
All this talk about 2nd place being okay is just ridiculous. Losing is not an option in our household. 2nd place is first loser. My daughter knows, she better not even come in second place or she better just find her own ride home, I don't care if she is 3 years old. Besides, it is one of my goals to make her cry at the races, how the heck is she supposed to get tough if every body babies her and treats her like a cream puff. I am just glad she's not in school yet, that way we don't have to home school her so that we can train 7 days a week.

spinner bait
07-07-2008, 12:16 PM
I would be glad to give her a ride home after I beat your ***** and show her that you came in second in a good ol ***** wippin.

riding4fun
07-07-2008, 12:39 PM
I took it as sarcastic. At least I hope it was.

renae
07-07-2008, 02:15 PM
I don't feel this is anything to joke at. If this person is serious then I hope he never comes face to face with any of us parents that really care about not only our own kids but all of the kids on the track.

guy310
07-08-2008, 07:57 AM
Wow is all I have to say. Of course it was sarcastic, maybe the 3-year old thing should have tipped off some of you. At any rate, we shouldn't take everything so serious. Yes you're right, there are some little league parents out there in any sport, and I for one don't agree with their method either, however, I can just pray for that child and that parent. Unless there is some sort of physical action from the parent, it is none of my business how they are raising their kid. I don't have to agree, I just have to mind my own business. I care very deeply for all children, I just can't save every one of them, that's all. Besides, I look at it this way; it was something to make light of for me because I realize that for every kid whose dad takes him to a racetrack and spends time with him but yells at him for not doing well or being agressive enough, or whatever, there are a thousand kids out there whose dad is a crackhead or he puts out cigarettes on his body, or he beats him or her, or he prostitutes the kids mom. I mean, there are much worse fates than going to a racetrack every weekend and putting up with your drunk dad. That doesn't make it right, just put it into perspective.

etondaddy
07-08-2008, 08:39 AM
That's just plain sad..... we have a guy like that in D5 he made his kid do push ups in the mud..... stand out in the rain while his fat a** sat in his truck nice and dry. I have never yelled at Kyle in six years of racing ..... I always tell him buddy your my favorite horse (and I point at him ) and he says if I never win a race.

Mike Kozura
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And me and him work on everything together and he takes a lot of pride in what him and I build (together)
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quadnana7
07-08-2008, 10:05 AM
Mike
I love seeing the way you not only take Kyle to the track to race but you get him involved with the build and maintenance plus you let him have a hands on experience. You are teaching him great values and that it takes hard work to stay on the track.I am sure everytime Kyle looks at his bike it is with pride knowing that he helped with the build. Keep on with what you are doing Mike we need a lot more parents like you in this old world.

etondaddy
07-08-2008, 10:50 AM
Originally posted by quadnana7
Mike
I love seeing the way you not only take Kyle to the track to race but you get him involved with the build and maintenance plus you let him have a hands on experience. You are teaching him great values and that it takes hard work to stay on the track.I am sure everytime Kyle looks at his bike it is with pride knowing that he helped with the build. Keep on with what you are doing Mike we need a lot more parents like you in this old world.

Thanks nana........ that means a lot coming from you. He's been hands on since the start of his racing. When we ran CVT he would do his own clutches and carb every Saturday before the D5 races on Sunday....I always felt that if he had his hands in it he'll have a lot more pride and respect for he machine. God forbid something would happen to me but if it did..... he knows every nut and bolt on it....... just get out of his way or go get him a 15mm...... lol. Now you made me get back into Photobucket...... lol.

Mike Kozura
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Sorry that's enough................lol

renae
07-08-2008, 11:56 AM
That is the way we are with both of our sons. It is hands on with all of the race prep and up keep. They love being in the shop working next to there dad.

etondaddy
07-08-2008, 12:36 PM
Yea man it's cool stuff........ but now he has his own box and tools....he comes to me and says......hey where's my 15 deep-well... you had it last........ OK pal now you know how daddy felt when there was a socket missing on one of my rails...... he should really watch when he starts paying for them !!!! that's cool

Mike Kozura

humboldt hills
07-16-2008, 06:43 AM
We do SOCCS and GNCCs and it just seems like 99.9% of the parents are there for some good family fun. I will say that some people were brought up different and learned different disciplines than most. The push up thing is what sparked my memory. We have a great parent that is totally there for his kids, but instead of time outs or butt whippins when the kids get out of hand, they do push-ups. To someone who doesn't know him, they may see the kids out there doing 50 reps and think he is a jerk, but I have actually picked up the policy here and there, and not only does it work better than a time out, the kids are getting into great shape....lol

flht_db
07-16-2008, 06:57 AM
Originally posted by humboldt hills
We do SOCCS and GNCCs and it just seems like 99.9% of the parents are there for some good family fun. I will say that some people were brought up different and learned different disciplines than most. The push up thing is what sparked my memory. We have a great parent that is totally there for his kids, but instead of time outs or butt whippins when the kids get out of hand, they do push-ups. To someone who doesn't know him, they may see the kids out there doing 50 reps and think he is a jerk, but I have actually picked up the policy here and there, and not only does it work better than a time out, the kids are getting into great shape....lol

I've used pushups instead of time outs for years. But it's when they get out of hand. It's from a military and martial arts background. there have been tiimes when one acts and they both do push ups for not keeping each other in line.

On a side note when the Army Guard had them do push ups for shirts (not just give them away) last season (unidilla I think) they both did 40 perfect without breaking a sweat.

leadsled01
10-29-2008, 08:35 AM
Originally posted by humboldt hills
We do SOCCS and GNCCs and it just seems like 99.9% of the parents are there for some good family fun. I will say that some people were brought up different and learned different disciplines than most. The push up thing is what sparked my memory. We have a great parent that is totally there for his kids, but instead of time outs or butt whippins when the kids get out of hand, they do push-ups. To someone who doesn't know him, they may see the kids out there doing 50 reps and think he is a jerk, but I have actually picked up the policy here and there, and not only does it work better than a time out, the kids are getting into great shape....lol I also have my son do push-ups instead of time outs. He snickers when I tell him "give me 5" because he knows thats easy. If its good enough for the military its good enough for me. I always discuss what he behavior would be appropriate and give him a hug or high 5.

airmobile101
12-15-2008, 08:02 PM
AHHHH, I hate to bringing a dead thread back to life,but I couldn't help myself:devil:
I personally don't have any issue with the pushup thing, but your a## best be grabbing some real estate when your son or daughter is expected to do it. In the army, its called," positive re-enforcement". When they push the earth, YOU PUSH THE EARTH. For the military guys, it kinda goes hand and hand with this old saying," FOLLOW ME, LEAD THE WAY".

12-15-2008, 08:21 PM
Originally posted by flht_db
I've used pushups instead of time outs for years. But it's when they get out of hand. It's from a military and martial arts background. there have been tiimes when one acts and they both do push ups for not keeping each other in line.

On a side note when the Army Guard had them do push ups for shirts (not just give them away) last season (unidilla I think) they both did 40 perfect without breaking a sweat.

Thats funny as my Dad did that to me ,my brother and my sister if one did wrong all of us was in trouble as we should look out for each other and yeas he was in the military. He was an awsome dad. We lost him 5 years ago in a car accident in martinsville indiana he crashed his vette and lost his life LOVE YOU DAD

airmobile101
12-15-2008, 09:08 PM
Originally posted by tgcheeseman
Thats funny as my Dad did that to me ,my brother and my sister if one did wrong all of us was in trouble as we should look out for each other and yeas he was in the military. He was an awsome dad. We lost him 5 years ago in a car accident in martinsville indiana he crashed his vette and lost his life LOVE YOU DAD

Toby, what your dad did is still held accountable in todays army. Its simple: If one screws up,you all screw up. It moreless teaches you to work as a unit/team. It moreless makes everyone accountable for their peer's actions. What it does in return is build team work and unity.
Now, I have seen dad's make their kids do pushups. They would make them push while they sit there in their lawn chair drinking a beer just because they missed a hot ground ball riding the third base line. They act like their kid is suppose to be the next Ozzie Smith or Cal Ripken Jr. Fine, you wanna make them push,then get on the ground and push with them!
Sorry to hear about your old man Toby.

DAVYS DAD
12-20-2008, 11:40 AM
when my kids get out of line i let them know but not by doing pushups. my kids do pushups every day to get stronger they also do pullups situps and even some p90x videos i dont think physical fitness is a good punishment , you may make them hate it when they should love it my boys are 7 and 5 and learning physical fitness and look foward to it everyday i want it to be a part of there life and starting them young will help them to do this the rest of there life they REALLY DO ENJOY IT HOW MANY 7 YEAR OLDS DO YOU KNOW THAT CAN DO 100 PUSHUPS 50 SITUPS
6 FULL PULLUPS AND EVEN SOME PLYOMETRICS,CARDIO, AND STRETCHING. MAKE PHYSICAL FITNESS FUN NOT PUNISHMENT
I HOPE I DIDNT OFFEND ANYONE WITH THIS ITS JUST MY OPINION
AND I DO THIS TOO BUT I REALLY STRUGGLE TO DO 100 PUSHUPS LOL
LATER

flht_db
12-22-2008, 11:56 AM
You are correct fitness should be fun, and they do love it. Whether we are all train together or they are training together. And the push ups when they get out of had are not punishment, it's more for focus, just like breathing exersises. It's a method of creating energy and letting them gain focus for the task at hand.

Punishment is much different and pretty much known ahead of time. Usually involves grounding from electronic gadgets or in the case of poor grades racing. But they know the rules going in.

It's great your 7 year old can do that many pushups. Want to add to it when you do them together do them at your count and slow them down and then add the static resistance. Hold them with their arms at 90 degrees for 10 seconds, then up.

Arctic Cat Dad
12-26-2008, 09:00 AM
I would like to kick the @*@# out of parents like this. They make me sick. My son is way harder on himself then I am. I tell him to go have fun. Because if there not having fun they will never be any good. We were at a GNCC national once. Michael was tearing it up, Leading his class, then he got stuck on a grapevine, wraped around his rear axel. He took the checkered flag in 3rd. He was pissed and crying. Before I ever asked him what happened I Always give him a kiss on the top of the head and tell him I love him and I'm proud of him. He gave me a mean look and said proud of what I finished 3rd that sucks! I said you came home to me safe and sound and that's all I ask for and I hope you had fun!



These butthead parents shouldn't live there dream thru their kids. They should get a quad and try it themselves.:D

airmobile101
12-26-2008, 06:52 PM
Originally posted by Arctic Cat Dad
I would like to kick the @*@# out of parents like this. They make me sick. My son is way harder on himself then I am. I tell him to go have fun. Because if there not having fun they will never be any good. We were at a GNCC national once. Michael was tearing it up, Leading his class, then he got stuck on a grapevine, wraped around his rear axel. He took the checkered flag in 3rd. He was pissed and crying. Before I ever asked him what happened I Always give him a kiss on the top of the head and tell him I love him and I'm proud of him. He gave me a mean look and said proud of what I finished 3rd that sucks! I said you came home to me safe and sound and that's all I ask for and I hope you had fun!



These butthead parents shouldn't live there dream thru their kids. They should get a quad and try it themselves.:D
LOL, I got clothslined by a grapevine once.Knocked me clean off the quad. Needless to say, I didn't take that line again thru the rest of the race.