Factory support?

[CEOR]

It is my personal experience. That quite of few of us have decided to put our kids on these Xtreme/FYM/whatever quads, and support them through various types of racing series. Has
xtreme ever steped up to the plate and offered any factory support? Or are we the so called test monkeys to promote thier crappy product? If we're really honest with ourselves, we all did try to save a little money. Right? Look where that got us? Talking on this forum trying to sort out all the screwed up crap we bought.
Xtreme....if your out there? Which I'm sure you are, and tuned in. Considering this is the most informative forum about your product. Why dont you have any support for us? You are the factory.....Aren't you?
Please no dealer response. Just Xtreme!

[God'sGirl.MQ.20]

Are saying "Factory Support" or support from the factory?

Because if you'r saying "Factory Support" our daughter is a Factory Supported Rider for Xtreme. She's races her 125 and 114 bike in the TQRA series and Full Moon Series. I know some people don't had good experiences with Xtreme but they have always taken care of us. Yes, we have spent a lot of money through the years on upgrades & repairs. That comes with racing. Stuff wears out. But we race with Apexs, Honda's and DRRs. All of these bikes have their own issues and reputations of problems.

[Ride1Rob]

I've had some problems like the steering stem play and the old clutches. But those were all fixed. I think for someone to call this bike crappy :ermm: .... For what I paid for this bike and what I got I can't beat it. I had to modify a couple of things but I'm not complaining. My son jumps this bike and rides it hard and other than the heelguards it has held together very well. If I had to do it all over again I'd buy another Xtreme with no hesitation.

[JBOYZ]

They finally changed the heel guards - it now comes with a solid nerf bar - only constilation is that it does not allow room for the kick starter - but with a simple modification :rolleyes: you can use your kick starter.... :rolleyes:

[God'sGirl.MQ.20]

Same here. We would buy another Xtreme. The sad thing is our daughter is starting to out grow her bikes. She loves them!

[drxracing]

i had mine for about 1 year and shaft broke and never rode it all that much how would i fix that ?????

[God'sGirl.MQ.20]

Crank shaft?
Call Xtreme.

[yfz450ba]

I had one, the worst thing I ever tried to do cheap. bought there motor mods everything. biggest piece of crap.. If anybody says their good, don't believe them. they probably are not riding them hard. 3 frame splits, (2 with there fix on). steering stem, carrier bearings many times, 3 I repeat 3 rear calipers, every time you hit a rock it cracks the stupid alum bracket and boom gone. tranny gears, 2 times ect ect ect.. Do yourself a favor stay far far away from this junk. The only good thing is they know its so bad that they give you the parts free buy a Apex or Drr. We have 2 apexs and we love them to death. Look at the GNCC raceing results for the youths and see in there are any Xtremes.

[God'sGirl.MQ.20]

I am not trying to argue with you because we all have the right to our opinion but I do take great offense to the comment "their not riding them hard" You have stirred up a Mad Momma! I don't think our daughter would have won 4 series, runner up in 2 series and the National Night Racing Association's National Champion if she wasn't riding hard. Sure she has cracked her frame several times. We've broke 3 cranks but Xtreme has always taken care of it.
She's sitting in the top 3 (in two classes) of TQRA. Which is one of the largest and most competive series there is in the South. She's racing against the fastest kids from TX, OK KS and AR even some from CO. She races against Apex and Honda.
We are very aware of the bad rep that Xtreme has. But Apex, Honda and Drr's all have quirks about them, too! Some kids have a tough time with Xtreme's because they can't get the shifting down. Shifting has taught her a good work ethic. She knows hard work pays off. She will be ahead of the game when it's time to move up to the Mod class.
Apex and Drr's are good bikes. Like I said before they all have their issues and reputations. Apex is lightening fast out of the box. That's why you see them at the Nationals. I think there is to much gripping in this world. To each his own. You are intitled to share your experiences and opinion but don't throw out insults. We are Christians. You know HONESTY is a big thing with GOD. Your post is basically is calling us a big fat liar. You had a bad experience. I am truely sorry but we have had a good one. Ok Mad Momma has getting off her soap box now. LOL

[JBOYZ]

I totally agree w/ your post God'sGirl.MQ.20

I am afraid we were just heading into "brand" bashing. All companies/makes/models have their quirks!

[Ride1Rob]

Originally posted by yfz450ba
I had one, the worst thing I ever tried to do cheap. bought there motor mods everything. biggest piece of crap.. If anybody says their good, don't believe them. they probably are not riding them hard. 3 frame splits, (2 with there fix on). steering stem, carrier bearings many times, 3 I repeat 3 rear calipers, every time you hit a rock it cracks the stupid alum bracket and boom gone. tranny gears, 2 times ect ect ect.. Do yourself a favor stay far far away from this junk. The only good thing is they know its so bad that they give you the parts free buy a Apex or Drr. We have 2 apexs and we love them to death. Look at the GNCC raceing results for the youths and see in there are any Xtremes.

Either you have a peice of junk knockoff that you're claiming to be an Xtreme or you bought the batch that they were having problems out of in early 06. This is hard riding for a kid that's 6 yrs old... Might I add that he's riding against two 9 yr olds. One on an Apex and the other on a DRR. He is not as skilled as they are, but it looks like the Typhoon is holding it's own :p

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Guess this is not riding hard enough :rolleyes:
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In front of the Apex
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[quadinfamily]

I bought one of the first year they came out ,it did not hold up at all !!!!!
this one here i got at pepboys put a 140 kit on it and a 15" shock in the rear it runs great . Toke second at this race in front of two drr.
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[Ride1Rob]

Sweet! Lil man has skills :cool: . How old is he?

[quadinfamily]

He is 7 , this is his 2nd year racing last year he did okay but this year he took 2nd overall at the local series track and they were 10 year old he was racing , so I am impressed with his riding skills :) ..Looks like your son is doing pretty well also :cool:

[Ride1Rob]

Thanx for the compliment! But he doesn't have the skill in jumping like your son has. There aren't any tracks that flow for the kids like that one is in your vid. He'd absolutely love that.

As far as your Typhoon, the first batch that they came out with in 06 they were having ALOT of problems out of. In 07 they corrected some of those problems and the bike is a better overall machine. Ours is almost a year old and the clutches were the only thing that wore out prematurely or malfunctioned in the motor. Not one problem with the frame and I often get on it and jump it to give him some laughs.

[quadinfamily]

here is another video of his race from this month it was the championship race he probably could have taken 1st if he wasn't so timid to pass but it will come with time...
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[yfz450ba]

Originally posted by God'sGirl.MQ.20
I am not trying to argue with you because we all have the right to our opinion but I do take great offense to the comment "their not riding them hard" You have stirred up a Mad Momma! I don't think our daughter would have won 4 series, runner up in 2 series and the National Night Racing Association's National Champion if she wasn't riding hard. Sure she has cracked her frame several times. We've broke 3 cranks but Xtreme has always taken care of it.
She's sitting in the top 3 (in two classes) of TQRA. Which is one of the largest and most competive series there is in the South. She's racing against the fastest kids from TX, OK KS and AR even some from CO. She races against Apex and Honda.
We are very aware of the bad rep that Xtreme has. But Apex, Honda and Drr's all have quirks about them, too! Some kids have a tough time with Xtreme's because they can't get the shifting down. Shifting has taught her a good work ethic. She knows hard work pays off. She will be ahead of the game when it's time to move up to the Mod class.
Apex and Drr's are good bikes. Like I said before they all have their issues and reputations. Apex is lightening fast out of the box. That's why you see them at the Nationals. I think there is to much gripping in this world. To each his own. You are intitled to share your experiences and opinion but don't throw out insults. We are Christians. You know HONESTY is a big thing with GOD. Your post is basically is calling us a big fat liar. You had a bad experience. I am truely sorry but we have had a good one. Ok Mad Momma has getting off her soap box now. LOL

Now, First, I want you to relax, I was telling you what happened to me. You miss quoted me, I said their" probably not riding them hard". Your girl must be riding them hard if you are having all the problems I had. The point I am trying to make is that they should not be breaking like that at all. Does't matter if Extreme takes care of the problem, it's to many times. My son rides hard on his Apex and does not have near the problems I had with the Extreme, no were near. And I never called you a liar, you just confirmed what I said in the first part of your post. broken frames and cranks. If you call your experience your with Extreme a good one, you should try Drr or Apex, you will truly think your in heaven. HONESTLY

As for your girl, I think what she has done is a tribute to hard work, and she deserves it. I hope she continues to do good.

Just to let you know, in another post it was suggested that I may have had a peice of junk knockoff. No, it was an extreme, and their are really no knockoffs, they are all made at the same place, with different names (storm ect).

[Ride1Rob]

I have to disagree with you on the Apex my friend. That same Apex that you see in the vid with my son has had problems with it. Twice the tranny crapped out on him with less than 20hrs on the bike in both instances. And he had problems with oil leaks on top of that. Regardless of what you buy one has more issues than another.

[yfz450ba]

I did't say they don't break, but not like the Extremes. I know several people, all had Extremes, all got so fed up, breaking every race that they to, junked theirs. You won't find a mini that stays together, just won't happen. but, how often, thats a different story. If you have an extreme now, and you like it, just give it time, you will see. Thats just my OPINION. Buy an Apex and enjoy yourself for once.

However, you must be a pretty smart guy, you also run YFZ 450. That's the smart thing. I can't wait till my sone is 13, three more years, so I can put him on a Raptor 250, and get out of the Mini Quad problems all together

[Ride1Rob]

It get what your saying to a degree. But you have to look at our bike (YFZ's) as well. Exspecially dealing with MX ALOT of things break prematurely. That's why the factory won't warranty it if you tell them it's been Motocrossed. I have the stock motor on Jams bike and next month will make it a year with no problems. I've known YFZ's to blowup on the stock motor in less than that time. I've seen Suzuki's have their issues within months of buying them and that goes for Kawi as well.

So I'm guessing that your son is 10 now? Maybe he's too much for the bike? My son was 6 when I bought his and in another 2 yrs HE WILL be on a Raptor 250 at age 9. You can't look at age sometimes when it comes to a bike for your kids. You have to look at size (how the bike fits them) as well as experience level. Jam can ride my YFZ and can even pull off in 2nd gear. It's sad that you and anyone else goes through horror stories with bikes not holding up when it comes to our kids but WE can alot of times be the ones to blame. If their over riding the bike, get rid of it and get another. This is Jams 3rd quad and he's only 7yrs old and once he started ragging the others and they started falling apart I got rid of them and got an upgrade.

[drxracing]

I am with yfz450ba i also have a 125 and mine broke at same place i called factory today and they did not know why they were breaking from there. He also said that they got some new motors and
they have not heard any thing bad with those he said he would send me one of them I have had a drr for about 2 years and had no kinda of problems like that with it only the normal wear and tear (belts wieghts extc) BUT i will give it anthor try

[Ride1Rob]

Originally posted by drxracing
I am with yfz450ba i also have a 125 and mine broke at same place i called factory today and they did not know why they were breaking from there. He also said that they got some new motors and
they have not heard any thing bad with those he said he would send me one of them I have had a drr for about 2 years and had no kinda of problems like that with it only the normal wear and tear (belts wieghts extc) BUT i will give it anthor try

Where did it break? Also, what year 125 is it? Is it the one with the oil cooler and braced frame?

[yfz450ba]

You pointed out one thing Ride1Rob, we are xc, so we do not do much jumping. I know alot of mini's with automatic cvt's do have tranny troubles, from hard landings in MX. That's not much of an issue in XC.

I would put my son on a Raptor 250 right now if I could, but he would not be able to race it anywere. All the series we do has an age limit of 13 for that bike. GNCC, AWRCS, and CRA.

[Ride1Rob]

I get your point on that. I'm hoping that my son doesn't want to get into any serious racing. I'll be in that same boat as well. Too keep it friendly, fun, and less expensive I have a few friends that I get together with and we let the kids do battle.

You still never said what year bike the Xtreme was.

[yfz450ba]

I bought is January of 07 and sold it may o7. I think it was an 06

[Ride1Rob]

Originally posted by yfz450ba
I think it was an 06

:ermm: That was the bike with all the problems....

[drxracing]

yes mine to is also a 06 i bought it in feb 07 it broke from the crank shaft that is the only problem i had with it o yea and the poor throttle response when i would jab the throttle it would sound like it wants to die the oil cooler is up front

[Ride1Rob]

Originally posted by drxracing
yes mine to is also a 06 i bought it in feb 07 it broke from the crank shaft that is the only problem i had with it o yea and the poor throttle response when i would jab the throttle it would sound like it wants to die the oil cooler is up front

The bike is tuned to run too rich here where I live. It was also doing this. What I did to get rid of it was add 93 and 110 octane fuel. 50/50 to lean it out a bit ;) and it ran alot better.

[drxracing]

thanks Ride1Rob for your help i will make sure and do this when i get the motor back thanks i would hate to sell this quad its nice looking quad but if i keep having problems with it i will have no choice

[hanzito]

howdy thought i would chime in here. i have a 06 typhoon 125 that i bought for my son in feb of last year. it was in the first batch of 06 to come into our area. it has had a couple minor issues.

- sterrring stem play
- shocks suck
- and very twitchy steering.

the motor has held up great. the only issue i have had with the motor was the starter went out. and the clutch would slip if i got on it and tried to hot rod it around. I put a new crate pitbike 125 motor with a 146 big bore kit in it in feb of this year. I switched to the full clutch motor becasue i wanted more power for my son to compete against the two stroke mod motor eton and drrs. he is running against moddified 110 strokers and his 4 stroke need more balls. and i wanted hime to start learning a clutch. i put him on the auto clutch for a year first now full clutch. als wo go to the dunes fairly often and the auto clutch was killing him. now with the manual clutch he does great.

recently i pulled his 146 motor for a freshen up then we had a mx race come up so i put my yx160 pitbike motor into his quad for the weekend of racing and memorial weekend camping dune trip. he loves the new motor so i am afraid that my 160 motor is gone permanety and i will be buyin g anew motor for my pitbike motr. even though the 160 motor was new in my pit bike with about 1 hour of run time before being swapped. i also recently bought elka shoscks for his quad and have a modified swing arm and rear elka to go on when i have a chance. the elka and pit bike motor upgrade have made it a entirely different quad for him now. next i will put on a steering stabilizer to addresse the twitchy steering. Now that he is rideing faster and jumping farther he needs is on the track..

and we both ride mx and flat track. and i ride a axis longtravel yfz450. and his frame has never cracked. his heel guard on the other had he keeps busting out the mesh under his heel.

[drxracing]

my 10 year old boy races the drr 90 and is bored out to a 100cc know and my 11 year old races the 125 typoon and let me tell you
drr is way faster then the 125 even in stock form and all the that power that the drr makes not 0nces did i have it break from
shaft like the typoon did i hope this next motor is a big inprovement check it out desert racing .com #4 my starter went
out also never had the play in steern tho i do hate how the front is lower than the back tho

[JBOYZ]

ATV A: 90cc, 2-stroke, fully automatic
VS
ATV B: 125cc, 4-stroke, 4-speed

Any make "ATV A" is going to out run "ATV B"..... You are not comparing apples and oranges..... Now - bore that ATV A out to a 100cc, change your clutch springs & roller - ATV B does not stand a chance....

My son races an Xtreme Typhoon 125cc - production class - we have done "some" work on the motor... Yet, this past Saturday only 3 productions bike showed up @ the track so we went ahead and entered him into the modified class.... The Xtreme Typhoon (actually 124cc) took first place - followed by a tricked out DRX90.....

When you start upgrading 2-strokes & 4-strokes - their is no comparing... Just my opinion, but I don't think their is really a fair way to run the mini 2-strokes & 4-strokes against each other... However, normally their is not enough mini-quads at one race to make seperate classes - run what ya got & get over it - if you have a quad you don't like - SELL IT.... Griping about it does not help out your problem - sell it & move on.....

I have had a lemon model of about every brand (almost every brand) at least once in my lifetime.... We have 9 Xtreme Typhoons on the track - we have had good luck with all of them but one... but is it maybe our fault? - maybe we have too much compression for the little quad to handle - maybe our rider is too big for the quad - who knows?.... We also have 3 DRR's on the track - one has been a total nightmare.... I have personally had a few lemons from Yamaha, Honda & Polaris - but not going to knock the brands because I have had some awesome Yamaha's/Honda, etc... also... All par for the course and when you start modifying & racing a quad - you are on your own....

The moral of my comments: IF YA AIN'T HAPPY WITH YOUR QUAD - SELL IT - THEIR ARE MANY HAPPY WITH THE MODEL AND/OR BRAND THEY HAVE - BRAND BASHING GETS NO-ONE NO WHERE!

[drxracing]

k jboyz i will sell it to you then lol!!!!

[Ride1Rob]

JBOYZ is correct. For that 125 Xtreme to be in the same class cc wise to a DRR90 the Xtreme would have to be a 180cc. A 125cc 2stroke = 250cc 4stroke, 250cc 2stroke = 450cc 4stroke. The average Joe is looking at #'s instead and has no clue. From my experiences a stock DRR90 here (friend of mines) actually had less power. There's another friend that has an Apex90 that has a bit more power of the line than the Xtreme. The only mods on all three bike are bigger carbs. If the Xtreme was an equal 180cc motor the Apex would have less power pound for pound.

[JBOYZ]

How much is it and why is it so high?
:D :p :D