Roll or Walsh?

[BLU82]

I'm looking at suspension set-ups for my kfx450. I'm pretty much set on fox evols, but I'm not sure about A-arms. So I'm looking mainly at Roll designs and Walsh racecraft. Which one would you choose? They would be for mx btw.

[Honda#4]

I'd go with Roll but both have excellent quality but it comes down to price I think both are close $1400 for Roll and I think $1000 for Walsh but dont quote me, either way you'll be happy.

Walsh!

[ALAMX37]

Roll dEsign for the win, they set the industry standard for today back in the 90's. Almost every brand has copied off roll, the new 'flow' a-arms are gull wing. Look at how many brands are now using the exact same ball joint setup(forgot the proper term), JB, Holz, and many more.

[xsr_racing28c]

Either way and you'll be happy. I run Roll on my 450r and Walsh Flow on my KTM 450.

Roll are a little heavier in my opinion, but they are strong as hell! Walsh has great design, good strength, but I think lacks a little bit in joint quality.

Your call~~~Jay

[BlaineKaiser450]

Id run Walsh but thats just my opinion

[jomama]

walsh...they have a cool name. :D

[justtryn4]

MY ROLL FRONT END HAS GIVEN ME SO MUCH TROUBLE

[Honda#4]

MY ROLL FRONT END HAS GIVEN ME SO MUCH TROUBLE

What would that be?

[justtryn4]

THE HEIMS WOULD GO OUT ALL THE TIME

[xsr_racing28c]

I have yet to see a company use a real good quality joint... But its all how you take care of them as well. I've seen joints go out after 3 races, and have also seen the same exact joints last over a season on a bike that was greased and maintained after each moto/race.

Jay

[400exrider707]

Most people have no clue how to properly take care of heims. I just roll my eyes every time I see someone spraying lube on their self-lubricating heims.

[Scro]

Originally posted by 400exrider707
Most people have no clue how to properly take care of heims. I just roll my eyes every time I see someone spraying lube on their self-lubricating heims.

And that lube may as well be glue, collecting dust and mud which prematurely will wear out the joints:ermm:

[justtryn4]

NEVER HAD THE PROBLEM WITH WALSH

GEEZ..I THOUGHT THIS WAS AMERICA, AND I HAD A RIGHT TO AN OPINION...

[250Renvy]

Either are going to be good, but I find the heims to be a lot more money to replace on top of high priced A-arms.

There are lots of cheaper arms that are probably just as good. You should look around as there are lots of places that do combo deals for better prices.

Check ebay and sponsors of the forums.

[esr250r86]

go Janssen +3's with encapsulated heim joints <3

[elementryder]

Burgard!!!! <3

but outta the two deffinantly roll

[ALAMX37]

don' take this personally but I wouldn't use Burgard products if they were given to me.

[elementryder]

Originally posted by ALAMX37
don' take this personally but I wouldn't use Burgard products if they were given to me.

its ok some vry good riders happen to like there products and abouslty haul arse with them

[justtryn4]

THE PROBLEM ISNT BURGARD PRODUCTS...IT'S IZZY...

[exrider49]

i didnt know that fast riders had to like the product for them to be good

[xsr_racing28c]

Get burgard only if you are planning on using them on your 2010 build... :D

[national #9]

KOQ, there are a lot of top national riders using them, they don't advertise much, but their products are good, and for 659.00 you can get a set of fully adjustable a-arms that use the factory ball joints, which are overly strong, because they are the same as the ones on the 700. you can call Tom at his shop, 616-363-1215, and they have a lot of other kawi products also

[BLU82]

Okay so I've eliminated walsh, but I also started looking at atv4play. Anyone have opinions on those. They look pretty good at there a bit cheaper which is good for my budget.

[mx1791]

2 of my friends got atv four play LT this year, and i gotta say they are deff. one of the best built a arms ive ever seen. from the welds to the bushings that they use seem really good

[esr250r86]

I love my Holz racing Arms :cool: