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Quadevil
05-07-2008, 04:44 PM
http://www.ktmpress.com/100051.0.html?nodeID=103128&cHash=d048ba6fd1

That is a sweet bike :D

patrickj75
05-08-2008, 06:19 AM
that looks awesome. I need one!

rollie
05-08-2008, 02:56 PM
I WANT ONE! that thing is BA, haha, i wonder how much

patrickj75
05-08-2008, 03:12 PM
considering I paid $8500 for mine. I bet they'll be $10,000. even at that its a good deal when you look at what they put on it.

rollie
05-08-2008, 08:11 PM
deff, the frame is already on the XC bikes and the engine is out of a dirtbike, so there really shouldnt be too many 1st year problems i dont think, hows yours holding up?

patrickj75
05-08-2008, 08:56 PM
I've only rode it an hour. I just got the motor built up by Frank Batista. its been at Rath Racing for awhile. they've been using it to build some parts. i'm hoping to practice with it saturday if it doesn't rain here.

don_carallo
05-09-2008, 01:38 PM
This show start on 8th May in Barcelona, is thi biggest national Motorcycle and ATV show and there will be the new SX, yes.

I'll post some pics on this weekend.

05-09-2008, 03:49 PM
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd127/blue450yo/dum/ktm_sx_2.jpg
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd127/blue450yo/dum/iii.jpg
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd127/blue450yo/dum/ktm_sx_3.jpg

05-09-2008, 03:51 PM
Is that engine going to be a bolt in engine for the ktm 525 xc or are the mounts differant?

OutlawBill
05-13-2008, 10:55 AM
:eek2: $11,398.00 :eek2:

Quadevil
05-13-2008, 12:20 PM
Originally posted by OutlawBill
:eek2: $11,398.00 :eek2:

Where did you saw that? :D
It's gonna have the same price of the XC versions

OutlawBill
05-13-2008, 12:25 PM
over at KTMtalk http://ktmtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=286809&st=0

Quadevil
05-13-2008, 12:59 PM
Originally posted by OutlawBill
over at KTMtalk http://ktmtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=286809&st=0

You're right man
wow :eek2: massive increases all around, gotta hate the damn weak dollar :mad:

But i would guess that it's not gonna rise only in KTM, this affects everyone...

05-13-2008, 09:33 PM
Is the ktm even worth it? Yfz 450s go for $7000. Put $5000 into the yfz and you probably have somthing overall better than the stock ktm.

vAnS_77
05-13-2008, 10:18 PM
Originally posted by OutlawBill
:eek2: $11,398.00 :eek2:

That is the price in Cali, for most of us, we race in the midwest.

450 SX-F* . . . . . . $11,398
505 SX-F* . . . . . . $11,698
* California Green Sticker and U.S. EPA Off-Highway emission compliant models

Like I said Cali.

MSRP around here is about 8600 for an 450xc quad. Which in Cali its

450 XC* . . . . . . . .$10,698
525 XC* . . . . . . . $10,998

Just getting this straight for those people who are freaked out about the price tag. It doesn't pertain to us all. That's a Cali dealership which is totally different from ktm itself. His post on that forum was just a mer advertisement.

step up
05-13-2008, 10:28 PM
Just for the lt kit, youd prob be looking at 3500. The tires & rims (dont forget they are beadlocks.) another 800. Any engine mods, pipe, and small things like killswitch, nerfbars. It adds up.

But ya. it is high for a stock quad. even if it is worth it. that sucks. I think only serious racers will want it.

vAnS_77
05-13-2008, 10:38 PM
If you look, +1 steering stem, 50" wide stance, +1 swingarm, bars. All of those is what you spend 5 grand on getting and putting together. I would much rather get a bike that has all those parts on it when it buy it. Its just that much less work and that much more riding. Basically its only about 800 dollars more.

don_carallo
05-14-2008, 10:22 AM
Here you have a link to one atricle about that show.

You can see the new 450SX, the white 525XC, a new ste of LT a-arms with linkage, Dakar quads etc

http://www.quadtreros.com/spa/item/ART06204.html

vAnS_77
05-14-2008, 04:54 PM
Thanks bro those are great pictures, it really lines up the xc vs sx.

05-14-2008, 05:01 PM
Wow that this is literally out the door to the track and even has nerfs. One thing you have to consider though with a other name brand quad like honda or yamaha you can get the long travel parts you want and make it perfect for you and with this you get one certain brand and im sure ktm isnt getting the best of the best parts for this quad.

RosquistRacer39
05-16-2008, 10:04 PM
Yes you can build a quad with certain parts, but does any of the other bikes come with a chromoly frame? The A-arms and swinger are also chromoly, just as good as any aftermarket part. I would bet that ktm has done r&d to make sure there stuff is the best and that is why it is costing so much. I would rather they put good stuff on it and raise the price at first anyways so I don't have to replace it after half a year. I would bet you see a factory mx team taking these bike like they are to the track. Yea you will have to revalve the shocks for you, but the rest of the bike won't need any attention. This is the beginning of the end for aftermarket companies I fear. Just like the factory bike teams the quads are moving that direction race ready from the showroom.
Im glad to see ktm is pushing foward with two different models, one for mx guys and one for xc guys. Cannondale had the right idea but I think KTM is going to capitalize on it.

rollie
05-17-2008, 08:10 AM
i love the bike!, but for almost 12,000 after taxes and all that stuff i think i'll just keep my honda and build a practice bike! haha

05-17-2008, 08:12 AM
Yea what rollie said is very true. I might consider looking at the ktm but the 09 yfz is supposivly going to be sick so ill be looking at that and the honda.

NJ450rider
05-17-2008, 06:30 PM
Ive said this 100 times and ill say it again. The initial investment will be more but the long term investment you will save money. Why is that so hard to understand???

I can wait to get a KTM 450SX!!!!!

05-17-2008, 07:50 PM
Originally posted by NJ450rider
Ive said this 100 times and ill say it again. The initial investment will be more but the long term investment you will save money. Why is that so hard to understand???

I can wait to get a KTM 450SX!!!!!

Please share your logic with me then.

rollie
05-17-2008, 10:30 PM
Originally posted by NJ450rider
Ive said this 100 times and ill say it again. The initial investment will be more but the long term investment you will save money. Why is that so hard to understand???

I can wait to get a KTM 450SX!!!!!


i guess, however i dont think i could leave a bike stock so it would end up with walsh/fox on it anyway! LOL

but im not sure im still thinking about buying one

The way i look at it now is my bike is worth around 10,000 right now, I built it with all top notch parts,if i were to sell it id end up getting around $9,000 then still need $3000 for the KTM and then need new nerf bars and get the suspension redone, so that probably another $700-900 right there

Not saying the KTM isnt worth the money, i just dont think its the right bike for ME because it would cost me alot of money when i already have a race bike in the garage!! too each his own though!, if i had $12,000 the KTM would be mine!

DEAL
05-18-2008, 01:39 AM
Rollie, your probably better with your honda anyways , I made the switch and regret it.

#17YFZRACER
05-18-2008, 07:40 PM
wait for the 09 yfz...its going to be sweet

05specialeditio
05-18-2008, 09:57 PM
I am in line for an SX already ! Where is the logic? Fastest production highest quality chassis available! Period!!!!!!!! I have two xc's now, have about $12,000 (one is practice quad)in it. But is is very fast, and i still have alot of factory parts on it! Buy a YFZ, absolutely must change a- arms, axle, stem, wheels, you are stuck with a POS frame (this is why we switched to KTM) You will still end up at about $13,000. Now you can make a 55-60 HP YFZ motor ptetty easy, but how about 45 HP stock from the KTM? Add a 13.5 piston, cam, rechamber the head w/ bigger valves, add a cam, and you are at 57 HP. Now as far as the wheels being $800.00 I can assure you that they are single bead locks, and are definitely not worth that> Who knows what about the WP shocks. Good/ bad ? I am actually having really good luck w/ these Ohlins now. Rest assured that as soon as I can get one, I will add another to the collection!

#17YFZRACER
05-19-2008, 05:15 PM
hey take a break buddy! like to use the (!) alot huh:ermm: i was just throwing it out there. i like my yfz alot. its not a bad bike at all, and its won alot of gncc races (and championships) if thats what your into(bill ballance, traci cecco, jennifer albright, donnie ockerman, brandon sommers) the yfz is a great bike already and the 09 is going to be even better.

05-19-2008, 06:59 PM
I am with you all the way #17yfzracer the 09 yfz is gonna be awsome I might quit the honda for it.

Simon MX49
05-20-2008, 09:25 AM
The SX sent chills up my spine, that thing is sick. As for first year quad, I think Im good. I prefer the 525XC, that MX version wont be worth much on a GNCC track

And besides, I start college in the fall, Im stuck with my 05 YFZ for 5 more years, but by the time I get out of school the new quads will hopefully have rockets or something on them :eek2:

quadrider1299
05-20-2008, 06:06 PM
in that picture where it is jumping on the first page, it looks like a suzuki quadsport 230

ACEwrench
05-21-2008, 02:25 PM
LOL this same topic was an issue when the Cannondale MOTO came out....12k price tag as well and turn key race ready.

vAnS_77
05-21-2008, 06:23 PM
Except that ktm is one of the best known motorcycle brands to deliever quality and powerful engines. Its just alittle bit of a difference. Ktm also doesn't go out of business every 2 years.

rollie
05-21-2008, 06:29 PM
Originally posted by ACEwrench
LOL this same topic was an issue when the Cannondale MOTO came out....12k price tag as well and turn key race ready. man i wish those were still around!!!!

hopefully KTM will make more than 312 of these! haha

Simon MX49
05-22-2008, 09:09 AM
I liked the Cannondales, but I wouldnt have owned one. If they were still around you better believe I'd have one now, they would have all the kinks worked out

This quad will redefine High Performance, I will almost guarantee it

OutlawBill
05-23-2008, 02:22 PM
Originally posted by Simon MX49
I liked the Cannondales, but I wouldnt have owned one. If they were still around you better believe I'd have one now, they would have all the kinks worked out

This quad will redefine High Performance, I will almost guarantee it

still around just called ATK now

http://www.atkusa.com/documents/2008ATKATVMX.pdf

vAnS_77
05-27-2008, 08:22 PM
This quad will be a 4 speed, just like the dirtbike? They say they have the same engine almost exactly. Anyone know?

Gaz #5
05-29-2008, 08:01 PM
Originally posted by vAnS_77
This quad will be a 4 speed, just like the dirtbike? They say they have the same engine almost exactly. Anyone know? 5-speed, slightly bigger sump.

vAnS_77
05-30-2008, 01:39 PM
ya just saw that, im so happy for this. That quad would have ripped your arms off. good to know.

Quadevil
05-30-2008, 02:15 PM
Also they've decreased the compression in the cylinder form 12.5:1 in the dirbike to 11.9:1 in the quad.

The SX engines in the quad have about 15% more power than the XC counterparts so,

450SX - 56hp
505SX - 61hp
(@crankshaft)

Gaz #5
05-30-2008, 05:01 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Quadevil
[B]Also they've decreased the compression in the cylinder form 12.5:1 in the dirbike to 11.9:1 in the quad.

Thats interesting as the artical on this home page says 12.5:1?

Quadevil
05-30-2008, 08:21 PM
Originally posted by Gaz #5
Thats interesting as the artical on this home page says 12.5:1?

Yes i know but i've read in Quads Xtreme Maganize the presentation and it was on the specs 11.9:1 don't know...

But here's what: they said in that magazine that the SX engine in the quad gives around more 15% than XC. We know that in the dirtbikes, the 505 SX makes 63hp and in the ATV it makes 60 or 61 so that slight loss has to come from something different in the engine...

Gaz #5
05-30-2008, 08:27 PM
Guess we will have to wait and see till the full specs are released, eather way it is going to be sic. We proberly wont see them in Australia till maybe oct, nov.

vAnS_77
05-30-2008, 10:49 PM
My guess its going to be the fastest production atv no doubt that. 56 hp im hearing as base HP, thats insane. You will be looking at a 65+ HP after you get done modding the engine, new cams, polish head and ports. I can see it now, ktm's team winning the next gnc with stock bikes...

OutlawBill
06-06-2008, 11:10 AM
Originally posted by RoadRidin450r
Yea what rollie said is very true. I might consider looking at the ktm but the 09 yfz is supposivly going to be sick so ill be looking at that and the honda.

look like the 09 YFZ look just like the 08 YFZ may be in 2010 Yamaha will make a change

RosquistRacer39
06-06-2008, 03:29 PM
Originally posted by OutlawBill
look like the 09 YFZ look just like the 08 YFZ may be in 2010 Yamaha will make a change
Yea right maybe by 2020.

xsr_racing28c
06-06-2008, 05:05 PM
Can't take the wait any longer, I'm on my way to the dealership to go pick up my 08 450Xc.Â_ Pretty stoked for it! :D

yfzrider310
06-11-2008, 09:51 PM
Originally posted by OutlawBill
look like the 09 YFZ look just like the 08 YFZ may be in 2010 Yamaha will make a change

hey they changed the springs black. They had to run that through research and development for this year to make sure it was possible. To save the extra paint they decided to not even bother paint the a arms blue this year. common yamaha

DEAL
06-15-2008, 11:45 AM
any idea when this thing is gonna be out?
I'n pretty sure I got my xc sold and am going to buy this or an ltr.

xsr_racing28c
06-15-2008, 03:06 PM
when I put my sx on order they told me they might be able to get me one as soon as the last part of august..

Ive got an 08, but might still sell my mx R for an sx

blakefoote
06-27-2008, 09:10 AM
Originally posted by bajaracer21
Is the ktm even worth it? Yfz 450s go for $7000. Put $5000 into the yfz and you probably have somthing overall better than the stock ktm.

ya but when you put 5000 in yamaha thats all you have... cant really add much more...this comes stock with a whole lot of goodies you can put on it....and then you cant kill that yamaha lol.... but this is comin from someone who hates yamaha lol:devil:

hurd88
07-02-2008, 10:29 PM
I have to agree, out of the box this bike looks pretty bad ***. But the end of aftermarket companies? no way in HELL. whens the last time you saw a factory rider with a stock suspension, stock axle, stock anything really? never. aftermarket companies will always be around, since thats half the enjoyment of this entire business, is for someone to customize their "own" bike. KTM did an amazing job on making a bike that someone could easily go out and win B or A class STOCK. but factory riders will always have the best of the best of whats available, and no stock part will ever beat that. with that said, i cant wait to take a rip on one of these puppies :p

Gaz #5
07-02-2008, 10:50 PM
My mate is just stripped his xc down in preperation for the australian safari and is blowen away with the little things that ktm have done. Like needle bearings in the a-arms instead of bushes. They are the things that make the ktm so good stock.

RosquistRacer39
07-05-2008, 08:52 PM
Originally posted by hurd88
I have to agree, out of the box this bike looks pretty bad ***. But the end of aftermarket companies? no way in HELL. whens the last time you saw a factory rider with a stock suspension, stock axle, stock anything really? never. aftermarket companies will always be around, since thats half the enjoyment of this entire business, is for someone to customize their "own" bike. KTM did an amazing job on making a bike that someone could easily go out and win B or A class STOCK. but factory riders will always have the best of the best of whats available, and no stock part will ever beat that. with that said, i cant wait to take a rip on one of these puppies :p

Yea but look at the bike industry, do the top guys have all aftermarket stuff? No they have factory items that only they can get, 30 grand forks etc. I see quads before long doing the same thing. The bikes will look just like stock but be the farthest thing from it. They have already started with the factory kyb shocks on the can-ams. What do they say, what wins on sunday sells on monday and if people see the ktm looking stock, winning races, they will definatley sell.

OzLinc
07-07-2008, 11:54 PM
Detail pics of the SX........

http://www.atvpod.com.au/news/2009/KTM/2009_KTM_ATV/index.htm#15