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bearair
05-02-2008, 07:51 PM
Just recieved mine today. It's early! Wasn't supposed to be here until Monday.

I'm impressed with how it looks. Pics to follow

The white stuff on it is lint from the paper it was wrapped in. This part is a thing of beauty. The exterior machine work is really nice, and it's one third the price of an Elka or Precision.

The adjuster turns clockwise for "Hard". There is no marking to align the adjuster with, and the adjuster does not have detents. Adjusted all the way to where it seats, it is STIFF. When you have it snugged (don't crank on it, just lightly seat it) the "8" mark on the wheel is pointing straight out. I marked the case with a Sharpie, and that's my index. Once it was on the bike I turned back to the "4" and the steering is much easier. If you back it off a couple complete turns I'm sure that it will be like having it "off".

Here's a pic fresh out of the box.

bearair
05-02-2008, 07:52 PM
Here's another.

bearair
05-02-2008, 07:54 PM
And another. Note the way I have it folded is opposite of the way it's mounted.

bearair
05-02-2008, 07:56 PM
Now for some on the bike

bearair
05-02-2008, 07:56 PM
Another angle.

bearair
05-02-2008, 08:03 PM
And the last one.

This was so easy to install that anyone that can pull a drain plug can do it. Literally took me 7 minutes to install. Sefl explanatory, which is good because there are no instructions! Looks good on the bike and I can hardly wait to try it out this weekend.

pro-rider46
05-02-2008, 08:23 PM
wow nice write up so far... make sure you write up a very detailed ride report after this weekend, i think i may buy one if it is pretty good.

my88r
05-02-2008, 08:54 PM
who will like it. NO BAR SNAP:macho

orangeEX
05-03-2008, 09:11 AM
where can i get one? lol

400ex28
05-03-2008, 09:17 AM
Look's like a good product let us know how it dose.

burnthesnikle
05-03-2008, 10:15 AM
how much?

bearair
05-03-2008, 10:51 AM
Originally posted by burnthesnikle
how much?

$200 shipped. He lists them on ebay. I've read about them for a couple months but he didn't offer one for the 400ex until recently. When you purchase from ebay, you send him an email with the year of your machine and what steering stem it has. He says he has brackets to fit aftermarket stems.

pro-rider46
05-09-2008, 08:33 AM
do you like it?

bearair
05-09-2008, 11:23 AM
I'll know this weekend. Didn't get to ride last weekend as my wife and I both had the flu. The weather was really nice too. Sucked. I'll update this tomorrow evening after I've ridden with it for a few hours.

mcwilly
05-09-2008, 02:24 PM
Bearair, sent you a pm

bearair
05-10-2008, 09:28 PM
Got a good 3 1/2 hours of riding in today. Here's the deal. YOU NEED ONE OF THESE! Completely changes the riding experience. I now understand the difference between a stick and a puck stabilizer. This unit was $50 more than the Billetanium stick we put on my wife's bike, and it's better by a factor of 10. You won't believe how much faster you can ride on the rough stuff. Keep in mind that I actually put the STOCK front shocks on since my 450r's are at C&D right now. The stock shocks combined with +2 A-arms are actually pretty good trail shocks! They just suck butt without a stabilizer. The rear end will get WAY out of shape before you run out of ability with the front.

My wife and I found some really interesting places to go today and both had a complete blast. Arm pump is WAY down, fun level is WAY up, and the ability of the front to soak up ruts, rocks and rapid camber changes is phenomenal. I was in fourth gear and revved up on sections of trail that would have had me swapping ends 2 weeks ago. It's that dramatic.

If you actually need to adjust the edges of the travel for racing, then the Precision is probably the only way to go. I think that the Custom CNC damper will satisfy everyone except for the small percentage of people trying to get the last couple of tenths off their lap times in "A" class. This is an awesome product for the money. No reason in my mind that I needed to spend the extra $300 on an Elka or Precision when I'm not in the Pro class.

I set the adjuster all the way snug clockwise, made a mark on the body next to the the "8", then backed it off slightly to where "4" lined up with my mark. I think if you back it off a couple turns from seated it's basically "off". I tried that, and it doesn't feel like it's doing much backed off like that. I didn't notice any drag when steering quickly left to right either. Just a WHOLE lot less tired when we got back. I could have ridden all day without being wiped out. Even makes the stock shocks behave which is a huge plus in my book given how they worked (or didn't) before.

Bottom line, money well spent.

400exMO
05-11-2008, 11:29 AM
This looks like a great product, just acouple questions. Have you contacted the maker of this product about rebuilding it. Does he sell a kit for the owner to do or do you have to ship it off. I like the product but I wouldn't want to spend that much cash if once it blows it's done.

tri5ron
05-11-2008, 12:50 PM
bearair,
looks excellent, and very nice write up/performance review.

I just now went and did the "Buy it now", purely on your recommendation.

You are COMPLETELY RESPONSIBLE for this,
(can you say..... A.A.D.S. ???),
and You are now, going to have to answer, to my wife!!!!

I already told her that it was'nt my doing,...
That I did'nt even WANT one,....
But YOU FORCED ME to do it....
you threatened me if I did'nt,...
(Yeah,...That sounds good, she'll belive me,... I just know she will)

You should be hearing from her shortly, I'm sure.
Boy, are you gonna be in BIG trouble now.


I think I need to call for an EMERGENCY Group Support Meeting,

"Hello my name is Ron,... and I am a A.A.D.S. Addict"

pro-rider46
05-11-2008, 03:22 PM
whats the guys ebay screen name who sells these, im going to buy one for my 450r

tri5ron
05-11-2008, 03:37 PM
Originally posted by pro-rider46
whats the guys ebay screen name who sells these, im going to buy one for my 450r

here ya go...

http://myworld.ebay.com/ebaymotors/custom-cnc-parts/

tri5ron
05-11-2008, 03:49 PM
I just recieved an email from the seller.
He says I will recieve it by next Thursday!
YES!!! in time for next weekends 3 day camping trip!!!

I will be riding my quad for the first time since installing the 450r shocks, Sparks +6 advance key, and now this steering stabilizer !!
(besides some other add-on goodies too.)

gee, I hope to have some fun out there....:D

bearair
05-11-2008, 08:13 PM
Originally posted by 400exMO
This looks like a great product, just acouple questions. Have you contacted the maker of this product about rebuilding it. Does he sell a kit for the owner to do or do you have to ship it off. I like the product but I wouldn't want to spend that much cash if once it blows it's done.

It's supposed to be. Thought he posted that in his listings. Looking at the way it's put together I can't imagine it wouldn't be.

Went riding again today on rough, nasty, rutted, hilly rocky, mining country trails, and the stabilizer allowed me to ride for 5 solid hours. I wouldn't have lasted much more than one or two before that.

LeGaCyGiAnT124
05-11-2008, 10:00 PM
I'm wondering how much better this is than a stick style stabilizer? I doubt it is that much better because is has the same adjustment as the stick so id asume not but who knows. It is trick looking though, I give it that :devil:

bearair
05-12-2008, 06:42 AM
Originally posted by LeGaCyGiAnT124
I'm wondering how much better this is than a stick style stabilizer? I doubt it is that much better because is has the same adjustment as the stick so id asume not but who knows. It is trick looking though, I give it that :devil:

Having ridden with a Streamline stick and now this, I can say that it's WAY better than the stick. The stick helped but didn't get rid of the big hits the way this does. The quad basically goes where you point it now. Doesn't matter what the trail surface is like. Pick a line to run and just go. I can see what all the people that run a Precision are so happy about now. No wonder they can go fast.

mcwilly
05-12-2008, 07:42 AM
** NOW HERE THIS! **
NOBODY is allowed to place an order until I get mine! :D I dont want the dude to be swamped w/ orders and not be able to get one. :blah:
Thanks for the write-up!

(Tri5ron, thanks for continuing to remind me that I'm not the only one w/ the disease.)

tri5ron
05-15-2008, 12:06 AM
OK Bearair,
This is all your fault!
it is now 11:06pm, I've been working all day on getting the Camper and toyhauler ready for this weekend's trip, and I'm still sitting out in the driveway, waiting for the UPS truck to show up!

I'm leaving at dawn:30 friday morning, for a 3 day trip.

I WANT MY STABILIZER!!!

I'm not going to bed till it gets here.
I know he said I'll have it by Thursday, and thats only 54 minutes from now.
SO WHY ISN'T IT HERE YET !!!

bearair
05-15-2008, 06:44 AM
Originally posted by tri5ron
OK Bearair,
This is all your fault!
it is now 11:06pm, I've been working all day on getting the Camper and toyhauler ready for this weekend's trip, and I'm still sitting out in the driveway, waiting for the UPS truck to show up!

I'm leaving at dawn:30 friday morning, for a 3 day trip.

I WANT MY STABILIZER!!!

I'm not going to bed till it gets here.
I know he said I'll have it by Thursday, and thats only 54 minutes from now.
SO WHY ISN'T IT HERE YET !!!

Um, I think it at least has to be light out... :) Have a good time on the trip by the way!

mcwilly
05-15-2008, 07:56 AM
Mine is supposed to ship today. :devil:

REPOMAN
05-15-2008, 08:10 AM
man i wish this guy had some when i was buying mine. by the time i was ready he didnt have any left and i bought an elka. make no mistake i love the elka, and i guess it just money but i would have used the extra few hundred on something else.

LeGaCyGiAnT124
05-15-2008, 10:19 AM
Like how much better is it. I am really into trail riding and when I bought the stick I was amazed with it. Is it that much better because it's a rotary style that stabilizes it even better? Like give me examples of the terrain and the differences between the two. When I used to ride in rocks before the stick stabilizer I have now I would get thrown all over the place and wear out really quick. With the stabilizer I can go top of 4th and bottom of 5th and ride all day with no problems until the end where I get a little bit of arm pump. Tell me everything you know haha.

-Brandon

REPOMAN
05-15-2008, 11:29 AM
i had a stick and went to the elka and the difference is enormous.

bearair
05-15-2008, 03:06 PM
I've ridden with a stick stabilizer on my old 250 quadracer and the Streamline we just got for my wife's machine. The Custom CNC unit is better by a large factor. I rode in REALLY rough terrain last Sunday for 5 hours. We're talking rocky, rutted, steep hills, some snow, creeks, basically mountains and mining country. I felt feedback to the bars ONE TIME in 5 hours, and I was in fourth gear and hit an off camber rut on one side and a rock on the other. The bars twitched slightly. That was it. Pick a line, point the front end in the direction you want to go, the bike goes there. It's that simple. No corrections, no fighting to hold a line in the rough stuff, just riding enjoyment. The major problem that I can see right away is that I'm not getting as much of an upper body workout as I was before. I used to have to stop every 30 minutes to let my arms relax. Now we can just keep going!

tri5ron
05-15-2008, 07:03 PM
it's here, it's Here, IT"S HERE !!!!

As I opened the box, there was a bright light that shown from within, and the warm sounds of an angelic choir filled the air.

I stepped back in awe of that, what was before me...
The Beauty,...
The Refinement,...
The Glow,...
The Auora,...
The coming Extacy....

A Chesher smile grows ear to ear,
and my tempurature begins to rise.

my breathing has become short and rapid,
and tears of joy and excitement flow across my cheeks,...

as I HAUL-DERRIERE TOWARDS THE GARAGE !!!
GET OUT OF MY WAY! I need allen wrenchs FAST!!!

LeGaCyGiAnT124
05-15-2008, 08:45 PM
Originally posted by bearair
I've ridden with a stick stabilizer on my old 250 quadracer and the Streamline we just got for my wife's machine. The Custom CNC unit is better by a large factor. I rode in REALLY rough terrain last Sunday for 5 hours. We're talking rocky, rutted, steep hills, some snow, creeks, basically mountains and mining country. I felt feedback to the bars ONE TIME in 5 hours, and I was in fourth gear and hit an off camber rut on one side and a rock on the other. The bars twitched slightly. That was it. Pick a line, point the front end in the direction you want to go, the bike goes there. It's that simple. No corrections, no fighting to hold a line in the rough stuff, just riding enjoyment. The major problem that I can see right away is that I'm not getting as much of an upper body workout as I was before. I used to have to stop every 30 minutes to let my arms relax. Now we can just keep going!

That is awsome :macho :blah:

I think I might end up getting this in the future. Wonder how much I could sell my stick stabilizer for that is basically a brand new stablizer besides the body and clamps?

maclavin
05-17-2008, 02:44 PM
Mine is on the way. Does it come with instructions?

mcwilly
05-19-2008, 08:45 AM
Originally posted by maclavin
Mine is on the way. Does it come with instructions?

Cool. Mine should be here anyday.
I think he said in the original post that there are no instructions, but the install is pretty straight forward.

tri5ron
05-19-2008, 09:12 AM
Originally posted by mcwilly
Cool. Mine should be here anyday.
I think he said in the original post that there are no instructions, but the install is pretty straight forward.

I just got back last night from riding this past weekend with mine.

all I can say is, EVERYTHING Bearair has described, is true and an understatement to the performance improvements.:D

you'll love it.

no instructions are needed, it is a matter of 6 allen screws.
locate the link between stabilizer, so that it is straight when the front wheels are straight, then tighten down the 2 screws on the steering stem.

mcwilly
05-21-2008, 03:55 PM
Holy CRAP!!! I just installed mine...saw that it had been delivered so I left work early. :D Put it on and took it for a spin at medium setting (on 4). Could tell a difference. Wasnt hugely impressed, but I could telll a difference. I brought the bike home, changed the oil, filter and spark plug. (it was time) I adjusted the stabilizer to 5-6 and took if for another spin. I took it to some land that I ride regularly by the house. Before, I could hit it pretty fast (close to pinned in 4th gear) but it was physically hard to see straight from the vibration. Today, I banged through all 5 gears w/ no trouble whatsoever. I have to go pick up the kids, so I cant play too long, but for the short time I rode, I was HIGHLY impressed.
And yesterday I installed the Sparks timing key. :eek: Two best items I've bought for the quad yet. Hands down.
Bear and Tri....where do you guys have yours set?

bearair
05-21-2008, 07:20 PM
I turned mine in clockwise until lightly seated, marked the case with a sharpie next to the "8" which was pointed straight out, and then backed it off to "4". I rode it that way for a couple hours and then moved it to "5". That's where I leave it now. Seems to be a good all around setting.

tri5ron
05-22-2008, 11:16 PM
Bear and Tri....where do you guys have yours set?

Mcwilly, I did exactally the same as Bearair.
Tightened, (turned clockwise), to lightly set, then backed off to '4'.
rode it like that through some fair sized whoops, through some mild rocks in 3rd gear, and fully pinned in 5th on the flat open lakebed.

Then did the same with the CNC tightened one more notch to '5'.
I like '5' better.

but I do have some good evidence in the pic below, that I consider to be a testiment to how well the CNC did it's job.

Now to set the stage,
First I must say that I was not riding my quad when this happened. My buddy took my quad for a ride, and I dont know how fast he was going when he did this, and I dont know what he hit.
BUT , I DO know the trail he took, and the rock covered hill he climbed. It is about 2 miles of some pretty serious whoops through sand, out to the hill, then about a 800-1000 foot climb at 40-45 degrees over bowlingball sized rocks.

This is what the right front wheel looked like when he came back from his ride...
<a href="http://s111.photobucket.com/albums/n148/tri5ron/03%20400ex/?action=view&current=IMG_8317.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n148/tri5ron/03%20400ex/IMG_8317.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>
<a href="http://s111.photobucket.com/albums/n148/tri5ron/03%20400ex/?action=view&current=IMG_8315.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n148/tri5ron/03%20400ex/IMG_8315.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

When he got back from the ride, I asked him what the heck he hit?
His reply was, "What are you talking about?", "I just went through the whoops, and climbed the hill", "then came back to camp"... "Why are you asking?"

I told him he must have hit something pretty hard, and he should take a look at the wheel. I asked him if he ever felt the handelbars yank hard to the right. He said, "No, and as a matter of fact, the quad handeled alot better than I expected".

Bottom line is, he never felt a thing, and didn't even know the wheel got bent.
So if you ask me,... I'd say that speaks volumes about how well the CNC stabilizer works.

Tell me what you guys think.
Taking a hit, on one side, with wider off set wheels, and hard enough to bend the rim bead, ...

Would that yank/twist your handelbars if you didn't have a stabilizer ???

mak400ex
06-07-2008, 11:34 PM
man got to get one - sounds like they work

bearair
06-08-2008, 07:07 PM
I've put about 40 hours on the bike since I installed the stabilizer so a quick update. Bumped the stabilizer up to "6" for the rocky stuff around here.

I hit a rock that was hidden by sagebrush 2 weekends ago when we went to Hemingway butte. I was coming down a hill in 3rd while following my wife and had it revved up a ways. There was a piece of sagebrush overhanging the trail on the lefthand side. This is typical for sagebrush to do, and usually it's not an issue because the trail was clearly visible on both sides. HAH! Tricky rock was completely hidden by said brush, and I caught the rim but good. Very slightly dented a rolled lip ITP Pro series .190 but it was a GOOD hit. If I hadn't had the damper I'd have gotten tossed. As it was I just burned off 5-8 MPH instantly and kept going. Didn't even pull the bars out of my hands, but I felt the bike slow down I can tell you.

Rode it 3 of 4 days this weekend also and I wouldn't ride without it now. I'm sold on stabilizers in general after all the miles I've put on this one. I can see that racing would require one. No issues with the CNC parts unit so far and I'm more than happy with it.

NacsMXer
06-08-2008, 08:20 PM
bearair, did you just message the guy on ebay to order the stabilizer? I want to get one for my 400 but he only has one unit listed on his ebay store for a LTR 450. I messaged him on ebay, i'll see if he gets back to me.

mak400ex
06-08-2008, 08:58 PM
I just bought one last night from the guy on ebay - buy it now for $200

the guy list them about 4 at a time - diff types i am sure his got them in stock or will be making a new list for the 400ex

if not he should get back to ya if you emailed him, very good seller.

cant wait to get my in :D

NacsMXer
06-09-2008, 02:26 PM
Mine ships out tomorrow! :D $185 shipped via Paypal direct, NICE :cool:

mak400ex
06-09-2008, 04:01 PM
$185 GREAT DEAL - GIVE US A UPDATE WHEN YA INSTALL AND GET A RIDE IN :cool:

mcwilly
06-10-2008, 11:28 AM
Originally posted by NacsMXer
Mine ships out tomorrow! :D $185 shipped via Paypal direct, NICE :cool:

That's how I got mine. :D I love mine. I actually had it on "7" over the weekend. (have been running it for a few weeks on "6") Night/day difference from stock.

NacsMXer
06-10-2008, 12:31 PM
Originally posted by mcwilly
That's how I got mine. :D I love mine. I actually had it on "7" over the weekend. (have been running it for a few weeks on "6") Night/day difference from stock.

Cool, I look forward to trying out the different settings. I've never tried a "puck" stabilizer before. I previously had a Denton 7 position stick stabilizer on it, and that really made a difference on the MX track. It's shot now and non-rebuildable so I threw it out. Last time at the MX track I rode without one and I was really missing having a stabilizer. From what you guys are saying the puck stabilizer should be a big improvement over a stick! :D

NacsMXer
06-16-2008, 07:53 PM
Got my stabilizer finally! :D

Didn't get a chance to put it on yet, but snapped some more pics for others to drool over. I'm really impressed with the quality of this thing, awesome machine work :cool: I also noticed that mine has a machined "indicator" and detent to which it points so that you can see what setting it is on.

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/498/93982538on7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/498/93982538on7.cdf41a5b92.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=292&i=93982538on7.jpg)
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"Indicator" notch
http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/8748/85196852jy6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/8748/85196852jy6.1d03e43294.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=292&i=85196852jy6.jpg)

blaaze416
06-16-2008, 10:16 PM
Man, MXer...those are some sweet pics!!!! I was too excited to put mine on and ride to take pictures, so I'm glad someone got some good pics to look at! For sure the best thing I put on my quad so far. I can take the rocky hills i ride like I have power freaking steering! Never had a stabilizer before and will never 'not' have one again!
By the way...does anyone know how long this kind of stabilizer lasts? I'm assumng it's non-rebuildable.

tri5ron
06-16-2008, 10:33 PM
Nacsmxr,
so now I must ask you....
Did I over-state my happiness with my previous description???

As I opened the box, there was a bright light that shown from within, and the warm sounds of an angelic choir filled the air.

I stepped back in awe of that, what was before me...
The Beauty,...
The Refinement,...
The Glow,...
The Auora,...
The coming Extacy....

A Chesher smile grows ear to ear,
and my tempurature begins to rise.

my breathing has become short and rapid,
and tears of joy and excitement flow across my cheeks,...

Well??? Did I ???

ttied07
06-16-2008, 10:55 PM
Can anyone tell me how much the thing weighs? It looks and sounds like a great product and I'm hoping to get one soon, just curious on the weight

blaaze416
06-17-2008, 05:29 AM
Originally posted by ttied07
Can anyone tell me how much the thing weighs? It looks and sounds like a great product and I'm hoping to get one soon, just curious on the weight

Not much at all. I thougth it would weigh more, but being aluminum and all, it's pretty light...2-3 lbs? I'm sure the mud on my skids weighs more!! :devil:

NacsMXer
06-17-2008, 10:37 AM
Originally posted by blaaze416
Not much at all. I thougth it would weigh more, but being aluminum and all, it's pretty light...2-3 lbs? I'm sure the mud on my skids weighs more!! :devil:

Yea it's not that much. I noticed my UPS shipping weight was a little over 2 lbs; their scales are usually pretty accurate. And that's with the box and packing material. I put it on my bathroom scale and it's right at 2 lbs.

NacsMXer
06-17-2008, 10:40 AM
Originally posted by tri5ron
Nacsmxr,
so now I must ask you....
Did I over-state my happiness with my previous description???

As I opened the box, there was a bright light that shown from within, and the warm sounds of an angelic choir filled the air.

I stepped back in awe of that, what was before me...
The Beauty,...
The Refinement,...
The Glow,...
The Auora,...
The coming Extacy....

A Chesher smile grows ear to ear,
and my tempurature begins to rise.

my breathing has become short and rapid,
and tears of joy and excitement flow across my cheeks,...

Well??? Did I ???

LOL, not at all my good man...this thing's a work of art! :p

I'm going to give mine a nice polish job before I bolt it up today, it should really pop when I get through with it :devil:

NacsMXer
06-17-2008, 02:04 PM
Put in a couple hours of hand polishing on the stabilizer and man, does it look good :cool: The machined surfaces are perfect for a final polish job.

I'm gonna pic whore it up for the last time just cuz I like how it came out :p

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/4889/dsc0254ar0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/2028/dsc0255rh6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/2130/dsc0256hx8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/2789/70093523gk6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

supernatural
06-19-2008, 07:06 PM
this guys going to make a boat load of money with this thing. i was on the fence about buying one until i read the forum and then bought one imediately! nobody on here is a liar. this thing is way better than a stick and worth every penny. thats why i read all the forums, thank you for all the info i'm looking for

tri5ron
06-19-2008, 10:34 PM
NacsMXer,
that looks toooo sweet to put on the bike now!!! LOL!

We just have to make sure that 08400ex dosen't get one, 'cause He'll go and paint it black!!

:D :D :D

mak400ex
08-21-2008, 11:34 AM
Got mine on.....and luving it nice upgrade.


http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s301/mikody/P7127453.jpg
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s301/mikody/P7127449.jpg

redrocker
08-21-2008, 12:41 PM
How do you get a hold
of this guy

blaaze416
08-21-2008, 02:43 PM
I know he does Ebay.....I'll check my history and post back with some info.

tri5ron
08-21-2008, 04:23 PM
Originally posted by redrocker
How do you get a hold
of this guy
We cant tell ya',
It's now elevated to a national security, super secret status,....
If we told ya' then we'd have to kill ya'....

AHhh heck, here ya go....http://myworld.ebay.com/ebaymotors/custom-cnc-parts/

now go put on that bullet proof vest you've got in the closet.

redrocker
08-21-2008, 08:01 PM
The vest didn't work I
can't get him with that
link the ebay saids 0 found

NacsMXer
08-21-2008, 08:21 PM
Originally posted by redrocker
The vest didn't work I
can't get him with that
link the ebay saids 0 found

Send him a message on ebay or email him. He didn't have any listed on ebay when I bought mine either. He should have them if you contact him though.

blaaze416
08-21-2008, 08:52 PM
well....here is his email addresss....


customcncparts@yahoo.com.

He said it was cool to give it out....so have at it!

leasureryan
08-21-2008, 10:34 PM
how long does it take this guy to get back with you?

blaaze416
08-22-2008, 02:14 PM
Just now was the longest...two days or so.

woodsracer144
08-22-2008, 08:00 PM
WHAT TEH FRUIT! he isnt selling anything! notta! none. its 0 itemd with 200 feed backs and not every one leaves feed back on items...

NacsMXer
08-22-2008, 10:33 PM
Originally posted by woodsracer144
WHAT TEH FRUIT! he isnt selling anything! notta! none. its 0 itemd with 200 feed backs and not every one leaves feed back on items...

You gotta message him....

Like I said, when I bought mine from him, none were listed on ebay either. He will give you the option to buy through ebay or outside of ebay through paypal ;)

andrew450r
01-30-2009, 07:35 PM
Thanks for the info guys!! I just bought one from ebay!
Needless to say, i cant wait to get it!

katch26
01-31-2009, 12:20 PM
I wish I would have seen this earlier cause it cheaper not going through ebay

bigredisb
04-02-2009, 09:32 PM
I emailed this guy direct and picked one up for $160 shipped to my door. Cant wait to get it. Supposed to show up on Monday.

0101
04-02-2009, 09:54 PM
wow, i am definitely getting one of these!

omeeomy
04-04-2009, 09:51 AM
just curious
no one ever answered if it is rebuildable or not?
does he sell the parts to rebuild it?

zwark
04-04-2009, 10:12 AM
Originally posted by tri5ron
OK Bearair,
This is all your fault!
it is now 11:06pm, I've been working all day on getting the Camper and toyhauler ready for this weekend's trip, and I'm still sitting out in the driveway, waiting for the UPS truck to show up!

I'm leaving at dawn:30 friday morning, for a 3 day trip.

I WANT MY STABILIZER!!!

I'm not going to bed till it gets here.
I know he said I'll have it by Thursday, and thats only 54 minutes from now.
SO WHY ISN'T IT HERE YET !!!

Christmas all over again :D

NacsMXer
04-04-2009, 11:55 AM
Originally posted by omeeomy
just curious
no one ever answered if it is rebuildable or not?
does he sell the parts to rebuild it?

The guy who sells it says they are rebuildable. You'd have to ask him if he sells the parts needed to rebuild it, or if you have to send the stabilizer to him....that I did not ask him.

bigredisb
04-07-2009, 07:56 AM
Mine showed up yesterday and wow what a work of art. It looks like CNC has made a change to the mounting from what you guys have vs the one I have. This design looks lighter in weight and even easier to mount with only to bolts for the mounting of the stabilizer, 2 allens for the stem, and a set screw on the stem.

omeeomy
04-07-2009, 08:03 AM
tell us how it works out

bigredisb
04-07-2009, 08:09 AM
Unfortunately I wont be able to ride it for quite some time due to a injury but I will post on it as soon as I do take it for a spin.

Young_Gun1
04-07-2009, 10:14 AM
just thought i'd let everyone know that these are rebuildable by you and its a $10 kit

NacsMXer
04-07-2009, 12:09 PM
Originally posted by Young_Gun1
just thought i'd let everyone know that these are rebuildable by you and its a $10 kit

Nice, thanks for the heads up on that! ;)

gpd005
04-09-2009, 09:42 AM
I have four GNCC races on mine and it is still doing great.

jrb737
06-15-2009, 01:14 PM
Hello all, I just had my first ride this weekend w/ this steering stabilizer and it works great. I was wondering, for those of you that have been using it for a year or so now, how is it holding up? Have you had to rebuild it or anything?

Speedy 400ex
06-15-2009, 02:46 PM
Im going to be getting mine in a few days here.

omeeomy
06-16-2009, 05:16 AM
i think im ordering mine this week
any one have any complaints about theres?

mcwilly
06-16-2009, 02:12 PM
No complaints so far....think I've had mine about a year. (I'd have to dig back through this thread to see exactly when I got mine)

omeeomy
06-16-2009, 02:39 PM
yea im gonna order mine this week since i wont be able to ride for a couple weeks due to the fact that im having my knee scoped on friday
hope im only out for two weeks
big trip planned the week of the fourth so it better be better
im going anyway lol

tri5ron
06-16-2009, 05:34 PM
about the only complaint I can think of is when I ride with it, it seems to get all dusty and dosen't Sparkle and Glow like it did coming out of the box!
other than that, It's been GREAT!

smelly$cat
06-17-2009, 10:01 AM
Just ordered mine. 160 to my door. I'm going to have him leave the 400ex engraving off. He said he could put whatever I wanted there. I was going to have him put 440ex on there, but then decided against it since I'm not sure if I'm going to install this on my 440. Probably will be on my 426. I have my duner built to the hilt, but I don't want to scratch up the powder coat and the chrome LSR steering stem.... Not sure how much one of these would help in the dunes anyway. I think this is going to find itself at home on my woods EX for the time being. I'm excited about this! I've wanted to try out a stabilizer for a long time!

nakomis0
06-17-2009, 10:38 PM
Originally posted by smelly$cat
Not sure how much one of these would help in the dunes anyway.

In the dunes a stabilizer is awesome. I have the stick style I have it on the stiffest setting for the dunes and it cuts fatigue down by almost 50%.

smelly$cat
06-17-2009, 11:15 PM
Hmmmmm, well, I guess I can always swap it back and forth since they appear to be so easy to install. Maybe Ill just wrap the frame and steering stem with electrical tape or something before mounting it up to protect the finishes.

smelly$cat
06-26-2009, 03:27 PM
Got my goods in the mail earlier this week. Sweet! Will be installing this weekend. 160.00 shipped. Nice!

Ba9801
06-27-2009, 08:32 AM
I have just sent him an email, I hope that he gets back to me soon. This parts looks amazing.

Glamis400ex
06-27-2009, 07:22 PM
This part has me interested. Could someone who has the 400ex stabilizer measure the mounting points center to center? My Houser CRF hybrid is either 400ex or 250r geometry...I'm not sure if aftermarket frames have the same dimentions.
Thanks

Ba9801
06-28-2009, 08:12 PM
Mine should be here soon, so I can take any measurements you need or you can email him and ask him,
customcncparts@yahoo.com

Glamis400ex
06-28-2009, 08:36 PM
He hasn't responded yet.

Glamis400ex
06-30-2009, 05:26 PM
Somebody with a 400ex please measure the space in between the mounting bars. On my Houser it's 5.25" center to center or 4.25" inside to inside. I'm not sure if aftermarket frames are the same as stockers.

Thanks

Ba9801
06-30-2009, 06:02 PM
Mine has not arrived yet, I will measure it as soon as it gets here

Glamis400ex
07-01-2009, 05:23 PM
nobody else has one mounted on a 400ex....come on. Somebody go measure for me.

tri5ron
07-01-2009, 07:26 PM
ok, I'll measure.
be back in a few minutes

tri5ron
07-01-2009, 07:33 PM
stock 400ex frame. center to center is 5 - 1/8th inches.

Glamis400ex
07-01-2009, 07:51 PM
Thanks Tri5ron, did you measure with calipers? I measured inside to inside and it was 4.25". I have 1" tubing so 4.25 + .5 +.5= 5.25 c/c. I think it'll probably fit.

tri5ron
07-01-2009, 08:22 PM
ok, ok,...
no I did not measure with calipers. I measured with dividers, then a scale.

I will go back and meaure with calipers, inside the bars, the dia. of the bars, and the crt/ctr on the bars.

give me a few more minutes.

tri5ron
07-01-2009, 08:43 PM
with calipers...
bar dia. = 1"
inside to inside = 4.050"
ctr to ctr = 5.1"

Glamis400ex
07-01-2009, 08:47 PM
Hey bro....I wasn't complaining at all. I appriciate the effort. I was only asking your method of measuing is all.
Thanks

Ba9801
07-12-2009, 07:15 PM
WOW, you can definitely feel a big difference, I rode for a bit today and tried a couple different setting over the same terrain. The bars dont seam to want to pull out of your hands in the tougher stuff. I am really looking forward to running the bike next weekend for a long period of time and see how it cuts down on overall fatigue.

This is a must for anyone that rides tougher terrain. I am very happy with the fitment and the finish is amazing. I will try to get some new pics of it installed on the bike this week.

tri5ron
07-12-2009, 07:27 PM
Ba...
now tie it together with some upgraded front shocks, and you'll be AMAZED what you can do, and how fast you can do it.

3 best bang for your buck upgrades I have done is the stabilizer, 450r shocks w/ works springs, and the +6 key.

(I'll be ordering Zr's adapter soon to do the carb upgrade, and a stage 1 cam). Then I should be about done with mine, and the AADS will have to go into full bore on the wifes quad.

Ba9801
07-12-2009, 07:34 PM
hahaha I know what you mean about the AADS
:)

I am trying to get my friends 450R shocks to put on mine. I am trying to talk him into getting new shock so I can have his old ones for free.
We will see how it goes.

I am definitely not ready to do any other engine work or carb swap yet. The engine is still brand new. Maybe next year I will think about tearing into it.

Muddinguy
07-26-2009, 07:25 PM
Ok i just read all this.. When the money is there this is priority on the list !

savagemulisha13
08-06-2009, 09:42 AM
ordered this thing straight from old boy for $160 shipped

he says in stock and ready to ship

Jessem24
08-09-2009, 01:47 PM
how do these work? the soft setting will be as if your without it and stiff would make a change for sure? i mean does it make it harder to steer the quad? i never really got how these things work so if someone can tell me that would be great!

bigd's ex
08-09-2009, 03:06 PM
Originally posted by savagemulisha13
ordered this thing straight from old boy for $160 shipped

he says in stock and ready to ship

How did you get in contact with him? I want to order 1 today. THANKS

savagemulisha13
08-09-2009, 03:20 PM
I emailed him a message thru his ebay member page

bigd's ex
08-09-2009, 04:53 PM
That's what I did. He already got back to me. Thanks

Ba9801
08-09-2009, 05:26 PM
I just emailed him as well to see if he has one for the Warrior I am building. I love the one I got from him for my Honda.

bigd's ex
08-09-2009, 07:47 PM
Pushed the" pay now button ". A.A.D.S. STRIKES AGAIN !!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL

tri5ron
08-09-2009, 09:04 PM
Originally posted by bigd's ex
Pushed the" pay now button ". A.A.D.S. STRIKES AGAIN !!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL Group Support meetings are held on the 6th sunday of every month.
I'll be expecting to see you there !

Supreme Obi tri pooh-bah Ron kanobe.

omeeomy
08-10-2009, 08:19 AM
saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalooooooooooooooooot

bigd's ex
08-10-2009, 04:27 PM
Originally posted by tri5ron
Group Support meetings are held on the 6th sunday of every month.
I'll be expecting to see you there !

Supreme Obi tri pooh-bah Ron kanobe.

Can we change that to another time ? I have A.A , N.A & Anger Management that day. :devil:

hondarace83
08-10-2009, 05:15 PM
Do you have a stock stem or aftermarket?

bigd's ex
08-10-2009, 06:07 PM
Originally posted by hondarace83
Do you have a stock stem or aftermarket?

Stock

savagemulisha13
08-10-2009, 08:23 PM
installed today. didnt get much saddle time yet to tell if it made a differ. I have it set to 4 right now.

tri5ron
08-10-2009, 09:08 PM
QUOTE]Originally posted by savagemulisha13
installed today. didnt get much saddle time yet to tell if it made a differ. I have it set to 4 right now. [/QUOTE] set it to 6 for med. terrian, and crank it all the way to 8 for the really rough stuff. You wont be disappointed.
last time out, I was pegged it the top of 5th gear, going through whoops that were 18" to 24" tall, 6' to 8' apart, with some of the whoops hitting at an angle, and the damn thing just kept going straight, to wherever I pointed it.
Keep in mind, I am a old school, 48 year old guy, That has to be in good condition the following monday morning to make it to work. I do not have the luxury of screwing myself over the weekend, and calling in sick for the next couple of days afterwards.
I'm self employed.

This thing is BADASS!!!
I'm having one custom made for both my wifes quad, and my daughters quad.

whats THAT tell ya ???

savagemulisha13
08-10-2009, 09:37 PM
thanks for info .

will get throwin some rough sh@#$ at it soon

Ryan'07400ex
08-11-2009, 01:19 PM
So basically there are like 16 or 24 settings for this thing right? it will make like three rotations. I got a little confused by what u guys meant but I got mine today and it seems clear now. so should i screw it all the way in to bottomed out on 8 then back out to about 4 or make a full rotation out?

I could be totally wrong on this and it don't matter how many rotations in or out but just trying to clear it up for sure with someone else.

Im going to the track in a couple hours to test it. at least i hope i have pink eye so didn't go to school but still want to go ride hahaha

Style has changed 3 times of this stabalizer. The first one was way bulkier imo

smelly$cat
08-11-2009, 01:21 PM
I think you need to get into the 5-6 range to really start noticing the difference.



Originally posted by savagemulisha13
installed today. didnt get much saddle time yet to tell if it made a differ. I have it set to 4 right now.

bigd's ex
08-11-2009, 05:22 PM
[i]Originally posted by tri5ron

This thing is BADASS!!!
[/B]

" AWE," You said Badass !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :devil:

Glamis400ex
08-11-2009, 08:48 PM
does anybody else's sit like this? I have a Houser frame and it's 1" dia. tubing.

tri5ron
08-11-2009, 10:11 PM
Originally posted by Ryan'07400ex
So basically there are like 16 or 24 settings for this thing right? it will make like three rotations. I got a little confused by what u guys meant but I got mine today and it seems clear now. so should i screw it all the way in to bottomed out on 8 then back out to about 4 or make a full rotation out?

I could be totally wrong on this and it don't matter how many rotations in or out but just trying to clear it up for sure with someone else.

Im going to the track in a couple hours to test it. at least i hope i have pink eye so didn't go to school but still want to go ride hahaha

Style has changed 3 times of this stabalizer. The first one was way bulkier imo Huh ???
Dont know where all ^THAT^ came from,...
but just try/do this...

crank it down to 8, (full Tight).
Then back it off to 6 or 5, ( that' only 2 or 3 clicks), NOT full rotations.

go try it/ride it, like that, then start moving towards the 6,7,8, settings.
find what you like.
find what works best for your terrain/skill level,...

THEN GAS IT !!!, It will make you go, to where the handlebars are pointed.
The only thing left for you to decide is, Where do you place your butt,.... and how fast do you want your butt to go.

hope this clears up the question on where to set it.
:D :D :D :D

tri5ron
08-11-2009, 10:23 PM
Originally posted by smelly$cat
I think you need to get into the 5-6 range to really start noticing the difference. Yep, what he said^^^

tri5ron
08-11-2009, 10:24 PM
Originally posted by bigd's ex
" AWE," You said Badass !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :devil: Yep, I did...:p

Ba9801
08-11-2009, 11:04 PM
I am running mine on 6 and it works great

Ryan'07400ex
08-12-2009, 02:49 PM
First of all I wanna say that Tinner's airscoops and this piece do not go on at same time. I of course have a fan to so took the scoops off :( I loved the scoops though but the stabalizer is more important imo

Secondly, I rode at the track the first day I got it. Way better landing and much less feedback through the bars. What i mean by landings is the bars didn't want to jerk out of my hands when landing sideways or normally. I like it! :D
Now im wondering if I should get +1" housers for $430

bigd's ex
08-22-2009, 04:15 PM
Just put mine on, & this thing is everything you guys said it is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Looking forward to trying it out. :macho

tri5ron
08-22-2009, 05:20 PM
Originally posted by bigd's ex
Just put mine on, & this thing is everything you guys said it is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Looking forward to trying it out. :macho you got it mounted, and your on the 'puter ???
Shut up and go ride it...
THEN Come Back and give us your opinion...
:D :D :D :devil: :devil: :devil: :blah: :blah: :blah:

bigd's ex
08-22-2009, 06:56 PM
Yes "Sir" :D

bigd's ex
08-30-2009, 01:02 PM
Got to ride with the stabilizer yesterday & I wish I would have done this mod long ago. :macho

a4guy
08-30-2009, 09:10 PM
Just emailed the guy. I need to get one of these. All the trails we ride are rough, rocky and rutted. Cant wait to see what this thing can do.

bigd's ex
08-31-2009, 02:01 AM
Originally posted by a4guy
Just emailed the guy. I need to get one of these. All the trails we ride are rough, rocky and rutted. Cant wait to see what this thing can do.

You won't be disappointed !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D

BD444
09-07-2009, 03:36 PM
I have one of these for sale...I used it once for 1.6 hours on the hourmeter. I got a precision now.
Make offers
lets say 135 shipped OBO

rocky_mtn_honda
09-08-2009, 08:10 PM
well he's down to $142 shipped so i'd say they arent selling like they we're a year ago...i'm still gettin one!

BD444
09-09-2009, 09:00 AM
Originally posted by rocky_mtn_honda
well he's down to $142 shipped so i'd say they arent selling like they we're a year ago...i'm still gettin one!

lets go to 120 shipped..practically new.

rocky_mtn_honda
09-09-2009, 03:42 PM
nah, i dont like that word...practically....virtually...salesmanish
thanks though...i just prefer brand new in box and know its background...unless it were say 50-60% favorable in price

rocky_mtn_honda
09-09-2009, 03:43 PM
definately need some 450r front shocks though...if anyone has some that are still in good shape...hit me up

guenther
09-10-2009, 10:27 PM
Just ordered mine for $142 shipped. It looks like a quality piece so hopefully it will live up to the recommendations of everyone on here.

guenther
09-17-2009, 01:11 PM
Let's talk about how good this really is. The thing is beautiful to begin with, light weight, milled to perfection........ I mounted it and set it at 5 and could immediately tell a difference. I set it to 7 and absolutely loved it for the short time I tested it. I can't wait to get it out in the woods to see how much of a difference it really makes. My wrists get f-ed up all the time and I think this is going to save me a lot of pain and suffering. Buy one if you have been sitting on the fence, you won't regret it! My 450R shocks for $110 are on the way too :D

rocky_mtn_honda
09-18-2009, 05:02 PM
awesome piece of machinery!

tri5ron
09-18-2009, 07:42 PM
if you think you like it right out of the box, wait till you try riding with it. Chesher cat smiles are in your future :D :D :D

moshachusetts
09-19-2009, 07:52 AM
Originally posted by guenther
Just ordered mine for $142 shipped. It looks like a quality piece so hopefully it will live up to the recommendations of everyone on here.

How did you get it for $142 ? I just looked and it was $210. If I can get it for $142 I'll definetly get one

katch26
09-19-2009, 08:35 AM
buy it from directly. Its more expensive on ebay to cover the cost of ebay

rocky_mtn_honda
09-19-2009, 09:41 AM
yup, just email him @ customcncparts@yahoo.com....tell him exriders.com sent ya...lol he's gotten a ton of business from this site...

guenther
09-19-2009, 03:34 PM
I just spent 4 hours riding through rough woods and the stabilizer performed flawlessly (set on 7). Not once did my arms get pulled from their sockets or wrenched. You just point the bike and go. You feel so much safer and confident with it on. I don't see how anyone that rides their bike hard could do without one of these. Just the safety factor alone is worth the price.

tri5ron
09-20-2009, 04:37 PM
Well after searching high and low for someone with a 250ex in the NW area of Minnesota, (where the guy who builds these stabilizers lives), I have not found anyone to answer the call.

SOooo,...
Today I took alot of pictures, measurements, and even some video to send to him.
I have been in contact with him reguarding a custom build for a mount to fit my wifes 250ex, and he has responded saying it should be no problem to make.

so for any of you guys here, who also own a 250ex, hopefully they will be available sometime in the near future.

I know that a few of you here have wifes or children who ride 250ex's, and may want one also.
I know it will make a HUGE difference for my wife, and if all goes well with this special request build, I will probably start working with him to hopefully produce one for a trx90/90x also.

Please, if you are interested in getting one for your 250ex, please let him know. I'm sure that he will be interested in selling more of them if enough orders start coming in.

Just thought I'd let you guys know,
Ron

rocky_mtn_honda
09-20-2009, 06:10 PM
i'd eventually like one for my 87' suzuki lt250r quadracer...havent heard back from him on it though...

rlbuhsjr
12-16-2009, 08:30 AM
Just recieved mine yesterday cant wait to install, does everyone that has one still love it?

guenther
12-16-2009, 04:21 PM
Yup.

tri5ron
12-16-2009, 05:57 PM
Mine just saved my butt again 2 weeks ago when I tagged a bowlingball sized rock with my right front wheel as I was going hard into 5th gear. I stayed on, and the quad kept going straight.

Here's what it did to my front rim, with a full 5psi in the tire,
try doing that WITHOUT a stabilizer, and see how quickly you can become the newest member of the "Over the Bars" club !!!

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n148/tri5ron/Jawbone%20ride%20december%202009/IMG_0625.jpg

So yeah,... I guess I'll keep it a while longer. :D

jasonwayne222
12-16-2009, 09:46 PM
so is this basically just a tensioner on you stearing column? is that all it is, helps keep your stearing where you want it?

Foxhound013
12-27-2009, 12:05 PM
I just sent an email to him to find out about ordering one for me and my 400. Can't wait to get it either :D From what everyone here has said its well worth the money. As soon as I get mine I'll let you all know.

BKLEM
12-29-2009, 07:26 PM
does anyone know how the inner mechanism of these works, cause i am doing an intership at a place that makes cnc's and they said i could make w/e i wanted so why not try one of these. I was just wondering exactly how this worked

rocky_mtn_honda
12-29-2009, 07:39 PM
Originally posted by BKLEM
does anyone know how the inner mechanism of these works, cause i am doing an intership at a place that makes cnc's and they said i could make w/e i wanted so why not try one of these. I was just wondering exactly how this worked

buy one and tear into it...could prove lucrative if you get it mastered

Foxhound013
01-03-2010, 11:13 AM
Does it normally take a week for him to reply to emails, he answered one of my emails then he never replied back. I asked for his phone number so we could get the shipping taken care of quicker, if anyone has the number I'd really appreciate it, thanks.

Glamis400ex
01-03-2010, 12:42 PM
I have one for sale with literally less than 8 hours on it. It didn't fit my hybrid correctly. Ready to ship. $150 shipped.

PM me.

guenther
01-03-2010, 01:13 PM
That's more than he is asking for them new including shipping. Just an FYI.

Foxhound013
01-03-2010, 01:54 PM
He said I could get one for 150 new.

tri5ron
01-03-2010, 03:01 PM
Originally posted by Glamis400ex
I have one for sale with literally less than 8 hours on it. It didn't fit my hybrid correctly. Ready to ship. $150 shipped.

PM me. PM sent

Glamis400ex
01-03-2010, 05:33 PM
Originally posted by guenther
That's more than he is asking for them new including shipping. Just an FYI.

BS!! I paid $160 + shipping. Maybe he's lowered the price recently.

tri5ron
01-03-2010, 06:01 PM
Originally posted by Glamis400ex
BS!! I paid $160 + shipping. Maybe he's lowered the price recently. Yeah, He's been lowering the price since he first started building them.

Bearair paid $200 for his, I paid $200 for mine, a bunch of guys paid $185, Then it went down to $160, (that's when he changed the mount design), and now they are going for $150 down to $142 shipped, when you do a direct buy from him without going through ebay.

guenther
01-03-2010, 06:09 PM
Originally posted by Glamis400ex
BS!! I paid $160 + shipping. Maybe he's lowered the price recently.


Don't shoot the messenger Chachi. I bought mine from him for $142 shipped months ago.

Foxhound013
01-03-2010, 07:16 PM
Does anybody have his phone number, thanks.

86250rrider
01-07-2010, 10:25 AM
THIS IS CLASSIC!!!!!!!!!!




Originally posted by tri5ron
it's here, it's Here, IT"S HERE !!!!

As I opened the box, there was a bright light that shown from within, and the warm sounds of an angelic choir filled the air.

I stepped back in awe of that, what was before me...
The Beauty,...
The Refinement,...
The Glow,...
The Auora,...
The coming Extacy....

A Chesher smile grows ear to ear,
and my tempurature begins to rise.

my breathing has become short and rapid,
and tears of joy and excitement flow across my cheeks,...

as I HAUL-DERRIERE TOWARDS THE GARAGE !!!
GET OUT OF MY WAY! I need allen wrenchs FAST!!!

VTredneckgames
01-26-2010, 11:42 AM
just sent him an email. Hopefully I hear back before too long. Not in a huge rush or anything, but Id like to have it whenever it warms up.

Foxhound013
01-26-2010, 05:42 PM
I'm sendin out the money for my set tommorow, I cant wait :D lol. I hope it lives up to what you guys have been sayin. This with 450r shocks will be awesome, I hope lol.

BD444
01-26-2010, 07:45 PM
ill sell mine for 120....I am back into bikes and have no use for it...Ill never get 120 added to the bike.
120 shipped
email me at
downontheupside14@live.com

86250rrider
01-26-2010, 08:01 PM
i run a precision on my x/c 450r honda and i just mounted a cnc unit on my z400 trail machine tonight. didnt even take a test ride yet though. it looks to be a high quality piece. ill post how it stacks up on the trails soon.the only problem is on the z400 it mounts up so high due to the oil tank you cant see the pretty thing on there!!! :macho

Donjuan400ex
01-27-2010, 08:14 AM
Just checked UPS tracking this morning and mine is on a truck, scheduled to be delivered TODAY!!!! Cant wait to try this out at the dunes in a month!! I just couldnt stand all the Vibration and sloppy feed back i got while tearing across the dunes so now i have all new front end with a-arms kfx shocks and now the stabilizer!!

VTredneckgames
01-27-2010, 12:33 PM
so how much is he charging shipped for a new unit now?

86250rrider
01-27-2010, 01:19 PM
i paid 150 without e-bay shipped

Honda4life05
01-27-2010, 01:40 PM
are they made for the 450r? thanx

Foxhound013
01-27-2010, 01:59 PM
He can make them for about any quad you want, as far as I know, just shoot him an e-mail. I'm pretty sure the e-mail is customcncparts@yahoo.com

86250rrider
01-27-2010, 02:06 PM
Originally posted by Foxhound013
He can make them for about any quad you want, as far as I know, just shoot him an e-mail. I'm pretty sure the e-mail is customcncparts@yahoo.com


heres a link from my order

customcncparts@yahoo.com

racer 557
01-27-2010, 10:09 PM
i know this has probally been touched all ready but are they rebuildable if so where could i get parts to rebuild if i got one im either going with this or a rear shock and link for my r what do you all think

i race xc btw to so stabilizer or link and gt thunder does rear shock??

racer 557
01-28-2010, 09:37 PM
Anyone??

omeeomy
01-29-2010, 04:55 AM
yes they are rebuildable
you can get the kit from him for 10.00

VTredneckgames
02-03-2010, 01:38 PM
I still havent heard back from him yet.

How long does it usually take for him to email you?

86250rrider
02-03-2010, 01:47 PM
he got back to me the next day.

Foxhound013
02-04-2010, 05:23 AM
He got my money order last Saturday, how long does it usually take for him to send you the tracking number for your part, and how long does it usually take to get to your house. Thanks.

Foxhound013
02-04-2010, 02:53 PM
Never mind my last post, he sent me the tracking number today, I was just startin to get worried, lol.

Foxhound013
02-09-2010, 03:42 PM
WOOHOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I finally got my part. It is beautiful. I can't wait to put it on when the quad goes back together.:D

lester985
02-09-2010, 03:56 PM
i need to get me one have not heard one bad thing about them

Foxhound013
02-09-2010, 05:28 PM
Thats why I bought mine, the reviews on here are all good, even the people who have had thiers for a year still say they like them.

VTredneckgames
04-12-2010, 08:34 AM
just sent him an email. Got a big trip planned out for the 2nd weekend in May. Would love to have one installed by then.

86250rrider
04-12-2010, 02:42 PM
i have 3 rides on mine. whats cool about it what you dont get....abuse. i have a precision also on my 450r and they both work GREAT. i fly through rocky sections and it will keep you tracking straight every time. trust me :macho

MidnightBlade
04-13-2010, 07:40 PM
after i get my truck...I NEED ONE.........NOW!!!!!!!!!!
as of now my quad beats the crap out of me on the rough trails. i usually got to weara knee brace for the next week and my wrists are basicaly shattered. well spend 5 hours riding and 5 days recovering, the sad part is im still young. lol

bigbad400
04-14-2010, 04:54 AM
sounds like u need one for sure also a anti vibe stem would help. good shocks idk what all u got but i ride daily and never felt that bad unless i crashed. lol well worth the 185

VTredneckgames
04-14-2010, 10:34 AM
He offers them new at $160 now.

I decided not to get one. I really dont ride rough enough to need one I dont think. I have only rode 1 trail that actually made my arms sore. I never go back there anymore. Just figured Id put the money elsewhere. Going to buy a skid plate and front bumper instead.

I hear people talking about hitting the jumps and the wheels staying straight. I dont have that problem now. Probably because I dont hit jumps. And on rough rocky trails, Im going as slow as possible up them. Maybe Im crazy, but thats my reasoning.

bigbad400
04-14-2010, 10:41 AM
you would be totally surprised even at slow speeds how well you notice it, any little bump that would normally feel in the bars you wont, way less vibration for roads, its not near as squirrely on pavement now. i love it and if you set it hard you can ride fast and turn hard and it hold it every time. it a great piece of equipment.

clemsonteg
04-14-2010, 10:48 AM
is the only way to get one through emailing him?

tri5ron
04-14-2010, 10:52 AM
Originally posted by bigbad400
you would be totally surprised even at slow speeds how well you notice it, any little bump that would normally feel in the bars you wont, way less vibration for roads, its not near as squirrely on pavement now. i love it and if you set it hard you can ride fast and turn hard and it hold it every time. it a great piece of equipment. X2
choosing between a good stabilizer and a front bumper should be a no brainer. (No offence intended).

bumpers are mostly for Looks, and stabilizers are for better performance, more rider comfort, and more enjoyable riding.

riders being equal,...
a bone stock 400ex with a good stabilizer,
would be able to out perform,
and be a more enjoyable ride, (even for mild to average trail riding),
than your 11:1 406.

do the stabilizer.
you WONT be dissapointed.

add a good set of front shocks to that,...
and you'll wonder how you were ever satisfied with anything else.

VTredneckgames
04-14-2010, 11:26 AM
Originally posted by tri5ron
X2
choosing between a good stabilizer and a front bumper should be a no brainer. (No offence intended).

bumpers are mostly for Looks, and stabilizers are for better performance, more rider comfort, and more enjoyable riding.

riders being equal,...
a bone stock 400ex with a good stabilizer,
would be able to out perform,
and be a more enjoyable ride, (even for mild to average trail riding),
than your 11:1 406.

do the stabilizer.
you WONT be dissapointed.

add a good set of front shocks to that,...
and you'll wonder how you were ever satisfied with anything else.

Im just trying to figure stuff out. So help me alittle here.

Im more thinking about the bumper then actually purchasing. I dont really like the looks of them, I prefer stock. Im still debating if it will ever save me at some point.

Help me with the stabilizer. Most of the riders on here either race or ride a ton faster then I ever do on trails. Ive heard people talk about riding 3rd gear wide open down rough as heck trails. Either they have a ton more balls then I do or their version of rough is not near what I call it. Im usually going as slow as possible.

Im not looking for performance so to speak. I ride with mostly 4x4s a couple of bear trackers, a 200 4stroke dirt bike or two, and a 300 ex. I dont race and I dont jump. (always been afraid the bike would be crushed under my big butt) I like stuff that will make the riding more enjoyable and that will protect my ex. Only reason my EX is 11:1 406 is the fact that it needed bored, so I figured go ahead and put in a higher compression piston.

You say it will be more enjoyable riding with the stabilizer? Im just torn and dont know what to do. I can definately see how at times it would be great to have. I have hit some places that wanted to jerk the bars away from me. Hit a log once that almost threw me off.

Maybe I am overanalyzing this. I think in my last little paragraph I talked myself into it.

So I will be able to tell, even though I usually never get above 2nd gear on most trails?

thanks for the help guys.

VTredneckgames
04-14-2010, 11:36 AM
my biggest problem is that I decide to do something. I have the money, but then for some reason I talk myself out of it.

I just sent him the money for one. So, looks like im going to see how it does 1st person.

tri5ron
04-14-2010, 11:47 AM
Originally posted by VTredneckgames
my biggest problem is that I decide to do something. I have the money, but then for some reason I talk myself out of it.

I just sent him the money for one. So, looks like im going to see how it does 1st person. Once you get it installed, set it at 2 or 3, and ride a 1 mile loop on your favorite trail you consider to be rough.

Then set it at 5 or 6, and ride the same loop, at the same pace and speed.

Then set it at full hard (8 I belive), and do the loop one more time, AGAIN at the same pace and speed that you did it the first 2 times.

Once you do that, Come back and report your impression of what it does, or dosent do for you.

I'll bet my Dollars to your Donuts, that you will be plesantly surprised.

VTredneckgames
04-14-2010, 11:57 AM
Originally posted by tri5ron
I'll bet my Dollars to your Donuts, that you will be plesantly surprised.

Dont say Donuts. Im a recoving fatty, lol. I will report back. And I know I will love it. You have never gave me a reason to doubt you.

Now go answer my "jumping" thread. I worry way too much. but I get it honest

Foxhound013
04-14-2010, 07:02 PM
I just put mine on, I don't have any rides on it yet but the settings are 1 is the hardest and 8 is like it not even being on. It looks really good though.

guenther
04-14-2010, 07:08 PM
Originally posted by Foxhound013
I just put mine on, I don't have any rides on it yet but the settings are 1 is the hardest and 8 is like it not even being on. It looks really good though.

Not sure about yours but mine is just the opposite. 8 is the hardest setting. I run mine at 7 in the woods during all balls out riding. You'll love it.

VTredneckgames
04-23-2010, 10:59 AM
came in the mail on wednesday. Hopefully will get it installed tomorrow morning. I'll post back then with results for all you slow trail riders like me. :D

EDIT: Got it put on today. Didnt get to ride much with it, but I did notice a difference in it. Feels like it took some of the vibration out of the steering and it doesnt feel like I have to hold the bars straight as much as I did earlier. Im sure that I will notice it more on a longer rougher ride. Now I just need to get me some front shocks and I should be all set.

Lquad71
06-23-2010, 11:32 AM
Does anyone run this that races mx?
Im at the top of my Intermediate class right now and am worried it will be too soft...i do know that some trails are rough but if you havent raced mx on places like glen helen you probably wouldnt know too much on what i am talking about.(no offense)

bkelley
06-23-2010, 12:50 PM
I've heard on the highest setting it's almost too hard to steer.

guenther
06-23-2010, 02:40 PM
If you ever run XC and have to worry about stump, fallen trees and bolders you wouldn't think that the MX was harder. The highest setting (8) is way too stiff in my opinion in the woods. My arms get tired after about 2 minutes on 8. I set it at 6 or 7 and it works perfect. You can still feel the hit slightly but the bars don't come out of your hands. If the place you are talking about is really bad and you aren't doing a lot of quick turning all the time like XC, the highest setting might do the trick. However it is REALLY tight. Good luck.

rinaldi
07-10-2010, 06:35 AM
If anyone is in need of one of these stabilizers I will sell mine. I bought it late fall and right after I bought and installed it I bought a Can Am 450X so it has had no use. It has less than 3 hours on it and in mint condition with instructions, etc. Will sell it for $145 shipped. Can take pics as well. I even wrapped the frame in electrical tape to prevent any scratching when installing. PM me if interested with your email and I will provide pics.

MtnEX
07-11-2010, 01:40 AM
Originally posted by 86250rrider
i have 3 rides on mine. whats cool about it what you dont get....abuse. i have a precision also on my 450r and they both work GREAT. i fly through rocky sections and it will keep you tracking straight every time. trust me :macho

You never did write us a comparison.


It sounds to me like from the comparisons that the CNC does the job controlling bar rip when you hit something with the tires... but also sounds like it is much harder to steer at the bars?

What about the precision?
Pretty much the same?

VTredneckgames
07-12-2010, 07:24 AM
I didnt notice any real difference in how hard it is to turn the bars. I wouldnt worry about that.

guenther
07-12-2010, 08:15 AM
If you turn it up all the way, you won't feel hits hardly at all but there will be some resistance. I'm sure this is the same way with all stabilizers. If you run it at 6, with 8 being the maximum resistance, you will not notice it at all and you won't feel any of the little stuff. If you do happen to catch the side of something big, the bars will move but just not at mach speed and rip out of your hands. I run mine at 7 through the woods and have zero arm pump.

tri5ron
07-12-2010, 08:39 AM
Originally posted by guenther
If you turn it up all the way, you won't feel hits hardly at all but there will be some resistance. I'm sure this is the same way with all stabilizers. If you run it at 6, with 8 being the maximum resistance, you will not notice it at all and you won't feel any of the little stuff. If you do happen to catch the side of something big, the bars will move but just not at mach speed and rip out of your hands. I run mine at 7 through the woods and have zero arm pump. X2

inv3ctiv3
07-12-2010, 08:53 AM
I have tried contacting him on eBay and he responded once but hasn't responded to any of my other questions and doesn't have any for sale on eBay right now :(

inv3ctiv3
07-12-2010, 08:53 AM
I have tried contacting him on eBay and he responded once but hasn't responded to any of my other questions and doesn't have any for sale on eBay right now :(

guenther
07-12-2010, 08:56 AM
customcncparts@yahoo.com

He's slow to respond sometimes. Send him an e-mail saying you want to buy one. My buddy bought one for his 450R a couple weeks ago for $160 including shipping.

guenther
07-12-2010, 11:51 AM
I believe this is a 400EX.

clicky (http://www.exriders.com/vbb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=442622)

Mr-Sleeper-34
06-14-2011, 01:24 PM
Originally posted by bearair
Got a good 3 1/2 hours of riding in today. Here's the deal. YOU NEED ONE OF THESE! Completely changes the riding experience. I now understand the difference between a stick and a puck stabilizer. This unit was $50 more than the Billetanium stick we put on my wife's bike, and it's better by a factor of 10. You won't believe how much faster you can ride on the rough stuff. Keep in mind that I actually put the STOCK front shocks on since my 450r's are at C&D right now. The stock shocks combined with +2 A-arms are actually pretty good trail shocks! They just suck butt without a stabilizer. The rear end will get WAY out of shape before you run out of ability with the front.

My wife and I found some really interesting places to go today and both had a complete blast. Arm pump is WAY down, fun level is WAY up, and the ability of the front to soak up ruts, rocks and rapid camber changes is phenomenal. I was in fourth gear and revved up on sections of trail that would have had me swapping ends 2 weeks ago. It's that dramatic.

If you actually need to adjust the edges of the travel for racing, then the Precision is probably the only way to go. I think that the Custom CNC damper will satisfy everyone except for the small percentage of people trying to get the last couple of tenths off their lap times in "A" class. This is an awesome product for the money. No reason in my mind that I needed to spend the extra $300 on an Elka or Precision when I'm not in the Pro class.

I set the adjuster all the way snug clockwise, made a mark on the body next to the the "8", then backed it off slightly to where "4" lined up with my mark. I think if you back it off a couple turns from seated it's basically "off". I tried that, and it doesn't feel like it's doing much backed off like that. I didn't notice any drag when steering quickly left to right either. Just a WHOLE lot less tired when we got back. I could have ridden all day without being wiped out. Even makes the stock shocks behave which is a huge plus in my book given how they worked (or didn't) before.

Bottom line, money well spent.

Looks like I have another part to buy! O_o.

Mastroz
06-15-2011, 09:18 PM
Originally posted by bigd's ex
Stock

I have stock 400ex, how long does it take to install this stabilizer? Just like 15 minutes like the ad says? also you can just adjust what you want right away by turning the little knob with your hand then?

trailrider894
06-15-2011, 09:37 PM
Originally posted by Mastroz
I have stock 400ex, how long does it take to install this stabilizer? Just like 15 minutes like the ad says? also you can just adjust what you want right away by turning the little knob with your hand then?

Yes.

If you even bothered to read anything in this thread you could have been edumicated much better... And we coulda learned you more.

Mastroz
06-15-2011, 09:43 PM
Originally posted by trailrider894
Yes.

If you even bothered to read anything in this thread you could have been edumicated much better... And we coulda learned you more.

I did read all of it, I wanted to ask also. There are times when they says it takes like 15 minutes and something really takes 1 hr. But thanks for answering anyhow. I was considering buying these, such great reviews from everyone.

Mastroz
06-16-2011, 08:47 AM
When installing this stabilizer, do I need to remove my skid plate ? Sorry, i'm a newbie with quads and everything.. just wanted to know.

thanks for your help

Mr-Sleeper-34
06-16-2011, 09:33 AM
Originally posted by Mastroz
When installing this stabilizer, do I need to remove my skid plate ? Sorry, i'm a newbie with quads and everything.. just wanted to know.

thanks for your help

Like @trailrider894 said, did you even read the thread, or even look at the pictures? I'm pretty much a newbie here as well, but you gotta search for answers first. Everything you need to know is pretty much already here. Just look at the pics on page 6 and that should give you your answer.

250x_kyle
06-16-2011, 10:34 AM
im just curious if anybody has measurements center to center on the frame rail clamps. see if i can moddify one to fit my houser crf frame

Mastroz
06-16-2011, 10:53 AM
well I bought one and can't wait to put it on :-D

thebig450es
06-17-2011, 02:46 PM
Too bad we cant compress all the usefully info and pics into one page lol

rcatvrider
06-17-2011, 02:54 PM
I got one a couple weeks ago and got one good ride on it. The steering is so smooth. I already hit a tree hard though and that ripped the bars right from my hands on about #6. Hope i didn't damage it.

DirtyBirdRacing
08-26-2011, 02:55 PM
Can honestly say I have not once considered one of these before, I knew they were out there but didnt care much to look in to them, Just got done reading the whole thred and have to say I WANT ONE.

Is there ANY thing that people dont like about these things?
(besides lack of shiney Glow after dust/dirt is on it :P )
Has any one had to re-build one?

guenther
08-26-2011, 03:15 PM
I don't know what there would be not to like. It's an easy in stall, cheap (as stabilizers go), keeps from ripping your arms off, smooths out the ride and pretty snazzy. I've not rebuilt mine yet and find that 7 is the best setting for me in the woods. When you hit something hard, and you will, it will add more force to the tie rods rather than just ripping the bars right out of your hand. I've bent a couple tie rods because there wasn't quick enough give or snap in the bars but I'd rather replace a tie rod or two instead of a wrist or shoulder injury.

Mr-Sleeper-34
08-26-2011, 03:21 PM
- I just ordered one on Wednesday, can't wait until it gets here.

GAZ-V-21
08-26-2011, 04:28 PM
So if i add one of these and 450r shocks is it gonna be like a whole new ride compared to stock?

Mr-Sleeper-34
08-26-2011, 04:48 PM
- Oh yeah. I just put 450r shocks on mine. Just wanting on this and I'll be set.

GAZ-V-21
08-26-2011, 04:57 PM
Sounds like a great product. I think a pipe, carb jetting 450 r shocks and stabilizer are in my near future i cant wait

Motofool250r
09-01-2011, 11:36 AM
can anyone help me out with the angle of steering stem to frame rail?

working on putting this 400ex unit on a aftermarket 250r application.

pepshocks
10-17-2011, 05:14 PM
I have one for sale if anyone is interested, 4 rides on it since new. Works awesome.these cns's r great

pepshocks
10-27-2011, 05:43 AM
Sold

Motofool250r
10-27-2011, 12:55 PM
so i put these on all 3 of the frames i have and we loved them in the dunes

Stickman400
10-29-2011, 06:27 PM
This thing just got moved to the top of my wanted list. I went on a riding trip yesterday and earlier today at Fingers Lakes in Columbia, MO and all the trails are rocks, trees roots and trees. I can't count how many times I had the bars ripped outta my hands after clipping a tree root or the edge of a rock. Man that hurts. Felt like I broke my wrist one time it happened.

Motofool250r
10-29-2011, 07:53 PM
this will definately, fix that we put precision clamps anti vibe stems and these ccp stabilizers on and man does it make one hell of a change!

SMicah
12-28-2011, 10:45 AM
Emailed the gentleman who makes these and I have a question to about this product.

According to the email I received he now makes two different stabilizers and was wondering if anyone has used the second type. The first is "standard one adjustment with 1-8 settings" and the second is "two adjustments with center and sides settings."

Has anyone purchased and used the two adjustments with center and sides settings? If so is it worth the extra money? I will be using this for dune riding primarily.

Thanks

CJM
12-28-2011, 10:58 AM
Didnt even know he had 2 versions. Mine is the old one with just the one setting.

Stickman400
12-28-2011, 02:09 PM
Damn, I didn't know he had 2 different types either. I would've been interested in that one if wasn't too much more. That way I wouldn't have to worry about my bars leaving center when I do my no-hander landers. :D

tri5ron
12-28-2011, 04:14 PM
Originally posted by Stickman400
That way I wouldn't have to worry about my bars leaving center when I do my no-hander landers. :D

Pics, and Vids are now a strict requirement when making such claims...

You now have only 30 days to produce and post the pics AND VIDS,...

or,

The Hounds of Hell, will be released with your scent in their noses,...

and a Thousand Flying Monkeys will descend upon you,
strip you naked,
and allow you to keep only one sock,
(to wear where ever you choose),
while out on your next riding trip.

The Clock is Ticking...........

Stickman400
12-28-2011, 04:28 PM
Originally posted by tri5ron
Pics, and Vids are now a strict requirement when making such claims...

You now have only 30 days to produce and post the pics AND VIDS,...

or,

The Hounds of Hell, will be released with your scent in their noses,...

and a Thousand Flying Monkeys will descend upon you,
strip you naked,
and allow you to keep only one sock,
(to wear where ever you choose),
while out on your next riding trip.

The Clock is Ticking...........
LOL, I wish I had a camera man. I've done a few no-hander landers on my 75 foot table, but it's a real ***-cheek clencher when you land. My little pic of me doing a superman should be enough to say I can do a no-hander lander.:p

tri5ron
12-28-2011, 05:41 PM
Originally posted by Stickman400
LOL, I wish I had a camera man. I've done a few no-hander landers on my 75 foot table, but it's a real ***-cheek clencher when you land. My little pic of me doing a superman should be enough to say I can do a no-hander lander.:p Superman Avatars are a dime a dozen,..... Camera's can be borrowed.
And we don't believe it's you,...

The Monkeys are now in flight as we speak, and the Hounds are getting hungry.

Tick,....Tick,.... Tick,....

SMicah
12-28-2011, 06:20 PM
The difference in price is $30. I am thinking about pulling the trigger on this and getting the 2 settings...Then I will take pictures and forward them...It might take more than 30 days for me to get the money.

I'll let you know when I do though...

trailrider894
12-28-2011, 07:13 PM
Originally posted by Stickman400
LOL, I wish I had a camera man. I've done a few no-hander landers on my 75 foot table, but it's a real ***-cheek clencher when you land. My little pic of me doing a superman should be enough to say I can do a no-hander lander.:p

Um we need proof...

Stickman400
12-28-2011, 08:18 PM
Well since my wheeler is in parts on the shop floor, 30 days isn't going to happen. I guess I'm gunna have to face the monkeys unless you can get me a time extension and feed those hounds before they get to ancy.

tri5ron
12-28-2011, 08:48 PM
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