Fastest Production Atv?

[4R3AL]

what is the fastest production quad currently which i think is the ds650 and ever which im pretty sure that is a suzuki ltz500 'quadzilla'.. if anyone had any proof or experiences :devil: thatd be cool. thanks..kyle

[pro-rider46]

im pretty sure that they stopped making the ds. so i would say the raptor 700 is the fastest. currently

doesn't matter whats the fastest. Straight lines are boring.

[pro-rider46]

Originally posted by nofearrider1
doesn't matter whats the fastest. Straight lines are boring.

to you

[klutch]

Originally posted by nofearrider1
doesn't matter whats the fastest. Straight lines are boring.

X2!!!!!!!!! :D

[yellow400ex05]

I'm thinkin' the thunder cat 950 or "1000"... whatever you wanna call it..

[kawiefan]

quadzilla

[blasterfreak99]

fastest (top speed) or quickest (acceleration)? the fastest would probably have to be the quadzilla with a top speed of nearly 90 mph stock, i believe correct me if im wrong though, and the quickest i would have to say would probably be the raptor 700.

[reptikes]

Originally posted by blasterfreak99
fastest (top speed) or quickest (acceleration)? the fastest would probably have to be the quadzilla with a top speed of nearly 90 mph stock, i believe correct me if im wrong though, and the quickest i would have to say would probably be the raptor 700.



Not quite! The Zilla and Raptor both (i can't remember which Raptor 660 or 700) have the highest top speed at 79 mph. Might fell like 90 but its not. The 08' YFZ 450 and 08' TRX 450r both hit a 78 mph top speed. Now you have to consider rider wieght, wind resistance, ect. all have an effect on that top speed.

[4R3AL]

im pretty sure the quadzilla has the most power, im not talking straight line or accelartion, im talkin horsepower, and im pretty sure the quadzilla is byfar putting out the most, as far as sport quads. the utuilty quad doest count (i think it was the 1000)

no one said anything about straight lines (amazing where some posts go haha) i was talking about the most power, and i thought currently it was the ds650. but the quickest bike ever was the quadzilla

[reptikes]

Originally posted by 4R3AL
im pretty sure the quadzilla has the most power, im not talking straight line or accelartion, im talkin horsepower, and im pretty sure the quadzilla is byfar putting out the most, as far as sport quads. the utuilty quad doest count (i think it was the 1000)

no one said anything about straight lines (amazing where some posts go haha) i was talking about the most power, and i thought currently it was the ds650. but the quickest bike ever was the quadzilla

You didn't ask anything about MOST POWER! You asked what was the fastest production quad.

[4R3AL]

Originally posted by reptikes
You didn't ask anything about MOST POWER! You asked what was the fastest production quad.

yea my bad then.. thats what im asking now lol

[reptikes]

Originally posted by 4R3AL
yea my bad then.. thats what im asking now lol

I tried to google it, but came up with nothing.

[4R3AL]

Originally posted by reptikes
I tried to google it, but came up with nothing.

yup so did i. i wouldnt of posted if i could of found it

[07trx400ex]

I have made a chart of most of the production sport quads.

Many people have problems with these numbers but they are from a government source:
http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/onroad/cert/ofhrv/ofmcatv_comply/2008/2008.php

07 Can-Am DS 650 X: 48.2hp
08 Honda 250ex: 16.8hp
08 Honda 300ex: 22.1hp
08 Honda 400ex: 34.2hp
08 Honda 450r: 42.6hp
08 Honda 700XX: 53.0hp
08 Kawasaki KFX450r:42.1
08 Kawasaki KFX700:48.8
08 Polaris 450MXR:41.6
08 Polaris 525S/IRS:49.6
08 Suzuki Z400: 36.6hp
08 Suzuki Ltr450: 41.6hp
08 Yamaha Raptor 250: 18.8
08 Yamaha YFZ450: 38.6hp
08 Yamaha Raptor700r: 46.9hp

[TWISTED]

Originally posted by 07trx400ex
I have made a chart of most of the production sport quads.

Many people have problems with these numbers but they are from a government source:
http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/onroad/cert/ofhrv/ofmcatv_comply/2008/2008.php

07 Can-Am DS 650 X: 48.2hp
08 Honda 250ex: 16.8hp
08 Honda 300ex: 22.1hp
08 Honda 400ex: 34.2hp
08 Honda 450r: 42.6hp
08 Honda 700XX: 53.0hp
08 Kawasaki KFX450r:42.1
08 Kawasaki KFX700:48.8
08 Polaris 450MXR:41.6
08 Polaris 525S/IRS:49.6
08 Suzuki Z400: 36.6hp
08 Suzuki Ltr450: 41.6hp
08 Yamaha Raptor 250: 18.8
08 Yamaha YFZ450: 38.6hp
08 Yamaha Raptor700r: 46.9hp



I'm doubting quite a few of those numbers, considering I've owned a couple of em with mods that wouldn't do those claimed stock numbers.......

[coryatver]

Originally posted by kawiefan
quadzilla

stock the quadzilla wasn't that fast. They had really low compression motors and some other issues. Modified they are scary fast! The fastest stock quad is the KTM 525 maybe the Honda 700xx some reviews of it have said that.

[07trx400ex]

Twisted you have to remember that those are crank #'s though.

You can expect at least a 15% loss to the wheels.

[4R3AL]

quadzilla had low compression? what? naw dude hell no they didnt

[pro-rider46]

Originally posted by TWISTED
I'm doubting quite a few of those numbers, considering I've owned a couple of em with mods that wouldn't do those claimed stock numbers.......

yeah i agree, i know the #'s are in the general area, but theres no way the #s vary that much between those models, like the yfz has about 38-39 hp, and the trx 450 has 42-43, theres no way, they are both around 38-39, i know the numbers arent accurate.

[wanta450]

acceleration piped 450 to piped raptor 700 the raptor has nothing friend has 700 and we all have 450s smoke him off line all the time

[450raider]

i dont know much about those lt500's but they sound like the fastest stock machine ever made.....but curently, ill give a take on my thoughts:

renegade 800
arctic cat 1000
ktm 525
raptor
outlaw s
grizzly 700
(insert a 450)
banshee (its a toss up)

[250r rider 88]

according to recent reviews the ktm 525 outran the raptor 700 both flat and up hill in a recent shootut switching riders (different wieghts and such) also the honda 700xx was reported to be "slugish" in 3rd gear on, you have to think if it is making around 53 horses thats alot of powerto spin those rear tires with IRS the reviewers eve nstated the raptor 700 would "kill" in a straight up drag and with the honda having IRS it to me is expected, and since the KTM beat the raptor i guess that makes it the fastest out there right now

also when you say production it means something that is being produced right now and is able to be bought of a showroom sorry but the Quadzilla is not a production atv anymore there is rumor of a big bore sport from zuki and they are naming it the quadzilla according to insider info

also if you want to pick out the fastest quad from any year stock would be a hard one but modified i think a banshee with the 535 cheetah kit would take on all

just my 0.02

[07trx400ex]

I thought the YFZ450 hp#'s were low also.

I did some research and they have not been updated since at least 2005 when they had the 439cc engine.

This could be a possible explanation, among many variables.

To go back to previous years change the last two digits to the year you want it to be like

For example, change

2008/2008 to 2007/2007 on the IP address.

http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/onroad/cert/ofhrv/ofmcatv_comply/2008/2008.php

[416exfreak]

Originally posted by wanta450
acceleration piped 450 to piped raptor 700 the raptor has nothing friend has 700 and we all have 450s smoke him off line all the time

Rider.:chinese:

[deathman53]

I remember reading a dirtwheels(a late 80's issue), the 86 tecate 3 and the quadzilla were the fastest at nearly 85 mph, 86 atc250r was at almost 80(trx was close). Really, the fastest atv ever produced in a tiger 500 three wheeler(limited number, usa built), dirtwheels had it to almost 90 and it still had more to go. They said that it had enough power pull 2 tooth bigger front sprocket too. Tiger didn't produce too much of them, as with the 80(lowest number), 125(very rare), 200(rare), 250(most common), and 500(very rare, few still around).

I don't know how these compare to the current atv's, atc250r's and tecate 3's are still blowing away current quads. I have to agree, top speed isn't too important. Get up and go is more important, I can't think of too many places except dunes and drag strips where you can open up atv's.

[coryatver]

Originally posted by 4R3AL
quadzilla had low compression? what? naw dude hell no they didnt

there stock compression ratio was 6.3:1. They were pretty wimpy for a 500cc 2 stroke. But mod them and they will kill anything. They made about 48 hp stock which is about the same as a piped yfz.

[my88r]

ktm 525xc.

[4R3AL]

Originally posted by 250r rider 88
according to recent reviews the ktm 525 outran the raptor 700 both flat and up hill in a recent shootut switching riders (different wieghts and such) also the honda 700xx was reported to be "slugish" in 3rd gear on, you have to think if it is making around 53 horses thats alot of powerto spin those rear tires with IRS the reviewers eve nstated the raptor 700 would "kill" in a straight up drag and with the honda having IRS it to me is expected, and since the KTM beat the raptor i guess that makes it the fastest out there right now

also when you say production it means something that is being produced right now and is able to be bought of a showroom sorry but the Quadzilla is not a production atv anymore there is rumor of a big bore sport from zuki and they are naming it the quadzilla according to insider info

also if you want to pick out the fastest quad from any year stock would be a hard one but modified i think a banshee with the 535 cheetah kit would take on all

just my 0.02

you guys are worse than women nit and pickin every little thing i coulda said wrong, i meant ever? hows that sound? any quad that was once mass produced or currently being massproduced..

[250r rider 88]

a little forethought into what you post will help you to get a better answer to the questions you ask bro, and my answer was an all aorund answer pertaining to the original question and all the others that have developed. not posting against you at all more towards the guys saying "quadzilla this quadzilla that" when you originally asked for the fasted "production" atv out there

[400ex_rider13]

I read in the test ATV Riders did, that they claimed the new Honda 700XX felt like that fast production quad, but I could be wrong. And I also have read that the new KTM 525XC beats the Raptor 700 in a drag race.

[250r rider 88]

Originally posted by 400ex_rider13
I read in the test ATV Riders did, that they claimed the new Honda 700XX felt like that fast production quad, but I could be wrong. And I also have read that the new KTM 525XC beats the Raptor 700 in a drag race.

you should read the QUAD magazine article on the 700xx as well i think honestly for the die hard honda fans it is a huge let down:(

[smr]

believe it or not...in a drag race with everything stock nothing will beat the can-am 800. I would have be money the 700 raptor would beat it. I even thought my yfz450 would beat it. I was proven wrong.

I still can't believe a ut quad is that fast.

Here is a link to some guys that did some testing.

www.mudanddirt.com

[Moded86R]

Originally posted by smr
believe it or not...in a drag race with everything stock nothing will beat the can-am 800. I would have be money the 700 raptor would beat it. I even thought my yfz450 would beat it. I was proven wrong.

I still can't believe a ut quad is that fast.

Here is a link to some guys that did some testing.

www.mudanddirt.com


Yeah I have a buddy that has a built 440ex he sand drags down at st joe.

He said one day all the bikes lined up and there was a can am 800 that lined up next to him.He kinda chuckled and they took off.Well the only bike that was close to him was the can am.He was shocked and stoped and started talking to the guy.The guy weighed like 250 pounds and said "watch this"He put another biggo guy on and raced again.Still had the same results!That is pretty amazing.I've seen my buddies bike beat 450's and banshee's.(Sure alot still beat him though)


My dad used to have a couple qaudzilla's.One was a 1990 motor in a lt250r chassis and the other one was a really nice 87 that had motor work.

Honestly I never got either bike going as fast they would go.I know on a black top road the 87 would smoke the tires into a wheelie whenever you took off.I also exploded the clutch basket doing that!Those bikes where fun but not very realible.Always had water pump issue's and main bearings and seals went out also.Nothing like that 500 stroke for gettin it though!

[smr]

Originally posted by Moded86R
Yeah I have a buddy that has a built 440ex he sand drags down at st joe.

He said one day all the bikes lined up and there was a can am 800 that lined up next to him.He kinda chuckled and they took off.Well the only bike that was close to him was the can am.He was shocked and stoped and started talking to the guy.The guy weighed like 250 pounds and said "watch this"He put another biggo guy on and raced again.Still had the same results!That is pretty amazing.I've seen my buddies bike beat 450's and banshee's.(Sure alot still beat him though)


My dad used to have a couple qaudzilla's.One was a 1990 motor in a lt250r chassis and the other one was a really nice 87 that had motor work.

Honestly I never got either bike going as fast they would go.I know on a black top road the 87 would smoke the tires into a wheelie whenever you took off.I also exploded the clutch basket doing that!Those bikes where fun but not very realible.Always had water pump issue's and main bearings and seals went out also.Nothing like that 500 stroke for gettin it though!

I first ran into one last summer at Paddy's bluff. We were playing around in the draq strip and this guy pulls up. I thought now way.....well my yfz is stock and he beat the heck out of me. He also outran anything else that pulled up beside him. He could even beat some of the dirt bikes. I would have never believed it if I hadden seen it.

Originally posted by nofearrider1
doesn't matter whats the fastest. Straight lines are boring.

X3!!! My cousin has a banshee and always says, "dude we should drag!" and my reply is "why drag race when it doesnt show much skill. what is the point of having somthing only fast in a straight line when where we always ride is trails or pits." his response is, "i dont know" haha IMO drag racing is stupid unless its H2H same car same mods same conditions that way its a challenge to see who was better in shifting and reaction time. Real skill shows in a real race where you do more than just going straight. Thats why I hate Banshees is because all they are good for is going straight or dunes.

[fofity]

Originally posted by FoxHondaRider
X3!!! My cousin has a banshee and always says, "dude we should drag!" and my reply is "why drag race when it doesnt show much skill. what is the point of having somthing only fast in a straight line when where we always ride is trails or pits." his response is, "i dont know" haha IMO drag racing is stupid unless its H2H same car same mods same conditions that way its a challenge to see who was better in shifting and reaction time. Real skill shows in a real race where you do more than just going straight. Thats why I hate Banshees is because all they are good for is going straight or dunes.


-1 back to X2. Banshees kick ***.

[416exfreak]

Originally posted by FoxHondaRider
X3!!! My cousin has a banshee and always says, "dude we should drag!" and my reply is "why drag race when it doesnt show much skill. what is the point of having somthing only fast in a straight line when where we always ride is trails or pits." his response is, "i dont know" haha IMO drag racing is stupid unless its H2H same car same mods same conditions that way its a challenge to see who was better in shifting and reaction time. Real skill shows in a real race where you do more than just going straight. Thats why I hate Banshees is because all they are good for is going straight or dunes.

Shows your ignorance.

MXJunkie had his shee on an MX track and raced XC with it. Im sure it wasnt as good as a 450 with a full LT suspension and the works, but his banshee hauled the mail quite effectively.

And also, Banshee's are good for WAYYYY more than just drag racing and dune riding. You might wanna google "Sanduhl Racing" and take a look at thier desert racing banshee, and also look into the banshee that DRI built for Douch Eighner a while back. I think they built it for the pont de vaeux race in France, or either the 12 hours of ATV america race...

[toomeyshee87]

Originally posted by 416exfreak
Shows your ignorance.

MXJunkie had his shee on an MX track and raced XC with it. Im sure it wasnt as good as a 450 with a full LT suspension and the works, but his banshee hauled the mail quite effectively.

And also, Banshee's are good for WAYYYY more than just drag racing and dune riding. You might wanna google "Sanduhl Racing" and take a look at thier desert racing banshee, and also look into the banshee that DRI built for Douch Eighner a while back. I think they built it for the pont de vaeux race in France, or either the 12 hours of ATV america race...

you have to remember that most of those banshees had outlaw chassis. completely different quad..

[416exfreak]

Originally posted by toomeyshee87
you have to remember that most of those banshees had outlaw chassis. completely different quad..

Sanduhls did, but im 99% sure that DRI's banshee had the stock frame. Stock, the banshee doesnt handle the best, but Yamaha did what they could for the time. And Banshee's sold like hotcakes right up to the day Yamaha stopped making them. To update it would have raised the price, and its not like people cant just put thier own parts on the quad when they buy it.

Honestly, how many people buy a quad and leave it 100% stock for the entire length of time that it is in thier possession?

I just think people should give the Banshee more credit than they do. They compare it to all of these modern 450's and say "well the banshee handles like crap compared to a 400ex and any of the new 450's" (and you know its been said on this forum [maybe not this thread, but the forum in general] and that isnt justifiable).

Rant off.:D

[toomeyshee87]

hmm, from what i can remember eichner's (sp) quad was an outlaw banshee too. cant remember who built it though.

dont get me wrong though, i love banshees and also thing they deserve some more credit. pretty much the only quad that kept sport atv's alive until the 400ex came out after the 250r went bye bye

[416exfreak]

Originally posted by toomeyshee87
hmm, from what i can remember eichner's (sp) quad was an outlaw banshee too. cant remember who built it though.

dont get me wrong though, i love banshees and also thing they deserve some more credit. pretty much the only quad that kept sport atv's alive until the 400ex came out after the 250r went bye bye

DRI built Eichners banshee. I remember it. Blue and white with the Pual Turner pipes, I remember looking at it in the pages of dirthwheels and thinking what a beast it would be to ride.

I was 10 or 11 at the time. (Somewhere around there anyways...I dont remember exactly when...)

[my88r]

Originally posted by toomeyshee87
hmm, from what i can remember eichner's (sp) quad was an outlaw banshee too. cant remember who built it though.



i believe is was a full laeger pro-trax banshee. maybe 250r geometry also.

similar to this one

http://www.atvriders.com/qotm/quadofthemonth200510yamahabanshee350.html

Sure Banshees could be good but at what cost? You have to modify them much more for MX or XC. I would never own 1 I could tell you that. Too much work and they just all around suck in my opinion. Sucking down gas for what reason because they cant go that fast unless its straight and more flat. The only 2 stroke I would buy besides my weedwacker an edger would be a Honda 250r. Those are bad a** and do not suck.

[416exfreak]

Originally posted by FoxHondaRider
Sure Banshees could be good but at what cost? You have to modify them much more for MX or XC. I would never own 1 I could tell you that. Too much work and they just all around suck in my opinion. Sucking down gas for what reason because they cant go that fast unless its straight and more flat. The only 2 stroke I would buy besides my weedwacker an edger would be a Honda 250r. Those are bad a** and do not suck.

Wow.

Thats about all I feel like saying right now.

You have to modify any quad you buy to make it competitive on an MX track. Banshee's really arent that much work if youll leave them semi-stock. Pipes, filter, jet the carbs and some port work and your good.

I can tell you, my buddys banshee with Toomey T-6 pipes, filter and an MX port, is faster than any 450 I have ever ridden. And Ive rode quite a few 450's.

[toomeyshee87]

i have put more money into my 450 then my banshee and the banshee has more mods. (rear shock and motor work)

http://photos-077.ll.facebook.com/photos-ll-sf2p/v72/95/33/1282830077/n1282830077_30014119_4126.jpg

[my88r]

Originally posted by FoxHondaRider
Sure Banshees could be good but at what cost? You have to modify them much more for MX or XC. I would never own 1 I could tell you that. Too much work and they just all around suck in my opinion. Sucking down gas for what reason because they cant go that fast unless its straight and more flat. The only 2 stroke I would buy besides my weedwacker an edger would be a Honda 250r. Those are bad a** and do not suck.

you really hate 2 strokes don't you. :huh

[416exfreak]

Originally posted by toomeyshee87
i have put more money into my 450 then my banshee and the banshee has more mods. (rear shock and motor work)

http://photos-077.ll.facebook.com/photos-ll-sf2p/v72/95/33/1282830077/n1282830077_30014119_4126.jpg

Im willing to bet that your Banshee is faster and handles better than your YFZ too, doesnt it?

[toomeyshee87]

faster..yes

handles better... no, my long travel evols do wonders on my yfz. but the pep zps make a night and day difference from a stock banshee

Originally posted by my88r
you really hate 2 strokes don't you. :huh

most except the 250r

[400exrider989]

i would like to compare DMCbanshee banshee to a 450 with the same amount of money, i to think that the banshee doesnt get enough respect, motor wise it doesnt get better, it can be formed into anything and motor parts cost way way less, and more power, i hate argueing over people who dont know banshees, all the guys over at bansheehq all stand back and laugh at those who say stuff thats not nearly true about a banshee, and some of the banshees that some guys have on bhq would destroy any 450 that doesnt have a pro rider, the wheel travel of a banshee is too long and narrow, if you put a -2 swingarm and +2 front a-arms on it then it handles much better with the right shocks and tires, most important part. banshee high maintnence NO haha maybe more stuff to do like mix gas and clean carbs, but i would rather do that then have to do valves, 2-strokes are simple and easy and are as reliable as the owner and most people just slack on maintnence from lazyness, pull a plug and mix the gas is all you need to do on a 2-stroke, besides the usualy change oil, 4-stroke you have to do oil filter and takes more oil and a rebuild on a 4-stroke costs soooo much more then on a 2 stroke and again with less power addition to it. flame on i dont care, ill stay back and read and laugh

[smr]

I thought this thread was about production quads in stock form....not built up banshees.....:D