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Str8Wicked
11-25-2002, 04:25 PM
Hey I was thinking of picking up some extended arms for my 400. I already have a set of extended brake lines that I haven't installed. My question is Can I go with +2+0 Arms and still keep the factory shocks. Or no matter what I will have to buy shocks as well. The only reason I really want to extend is so I can be a bit wider and turn cleaner in the dunes.... The ride on my 400 is fine for me now.... Let me know guys
optikid123
11-25-2002, 06:13 PM
it will make the shocks softer if you get them but if you ride dunes then you want plusher suspension right
stocktires
11-25-2002, 06:42 PM
yes, the extra leverage will make the shocks much softer.
Buy the arms and try them out first and see how you like them.
Do you weigh a whole lot?
Ralph
11-25-2002, 06:47 PM
i think u should definatly get shocks, for a good deal on a shock/a-arm combo contact the quadshop or jdperformance(www.jdperformancetv.com).

If a 14yo can afford it working 5.50 8 hours a week(me) than any1 could

ralph
Str8Wicked
11-26-2002, 09:46 AM
So in other words I can put the stock shocks on or run aftermarket. I weigh only about 150 so I'm not putting a whole lot of stress on the shocks. When I ride the stock suspension is soft enough for me. If it's any softer it'll ride like a Caddi, that don't sound to bad thou.... lol


Thanks guys...
cdalejef
11-26-2002, 09:54 AM
It doesn't matter if they are foreward or not. You want stiffer suspension in the dunes!
Dune setups use stiffer suspension than MX does!
Str8Wicked
11-26-2002, 10:19 AM
It doesn't matter if they are foreward or not. You want stiffer suspension in the dunes!

So I should run stock shocks than?.... saves me money.....
cdalejef
11-26-2002, 10:34 AM
You can, but they will be very soft!
Str8Wicked
11-26-2002, 10:55 AM
OK I reallly don't want it that soft since I'm not riding on hard durt most of the time. Thanks Jeff for the info....

I'll most likely run stocks than... I can always change after right...
cdalejef
11-26-2002, 10:58 AM
sure
stocktires
11-26-2002, 01:51 PM
Run stockers and maybe up the pre-load?
If yor 150 the stockers should do fine.

Jeff, y do duners like stiff a suspension?
wilkin250r
11-26-2002, 02:29 PM
The stock 400EX shocks are a lot stiffer through the first few inches of travel than most aftermarket shocks. I just upgraded the front a-arms on my girlfriend's quad, but kept the stock shocks, and it actually rides alot nicer and soaks up the small bumps better. Then again, she doesn't jump her quad at all.

If you're looking to catch big air, you will need to upgrade your shocks. But, as others have pointed out, you can try the stock shocks first, and upgrade if you need to.
Str8Wicked
11-26-2002, 02:57 PM
I'm not an experienced enough rider to be catching big air.

Usually the air I get is just from hauling ***** over something that just happened to be in my way. No huge air thou. Just some nice little air...

I'm learning as I go...
trickex250
11-26-2002, 05:39 PM
If wider a arms make the suspension softer does the same go for wheel spacers?
optikid123
11-26-2002, 06:22 PM
yeah
Str8Wicked
11-26-2002, 06:42 PM
If wider a arms make the suspension softer does the same go for wheel spacers?

Optikid123 maybe I don't understand this right. How can it make a difference with wheel spacers if the shock and there location stay the same. On an + A-arm I would think the shock location would be different and even if it is not, the arm may make it react different since it is longer. Maybe I jsut don't get it... explain?
cdalejef
11-26-2002, 06:57 PM
Wheel spacers put more leverage on the shocks just like wider a-arms do!
BigThumper33
11-26-2002, 07:03 PM
Its like using a small wrench compared to a long breaker bar. The longer the a arm the more leverage will be put on the shock.
Str8Wicked
11-27-2002, 09:37 AM
OK I thought that may be it.


thanks guys
wilkin250r
11-27-2002, 03:15 PM
Originally posted by Str8Wicked
If wider a arms make the suspension softer does the same go for wheel spacers?

Optikid123 maybe I don't understand this right. How can it make a difference with wheel spacers if the shock and there location stay the same. On an + A-arm I would think the shock location would be different and even if it is not, the arm may make it react different since it is longer. Maybe I jsut don't get it... explain?

I'm an engineer, I can derive all the equations if you want. Spring constants and Conservation of Angular Momentum. How deep do you want to get into it? :)