Our Country Needs A Change!

[Heybo]

I think it’s time for a change in this country. We, the people, have allowed our government officials to run our once great country into the ground. Our President and congressmen have repeatedly allowed special interest groups and big businesses to run our country. We are in the beginnings of a recession, fuel prices are at an all time high with no end in sight, we are taxed to an extreme, and our tax monies are spent frivolously with no accountability. We give billions of dollars in aid, grants, and loans to countries that don’t even like us and that would stab us in the back if given the opportunity. We give free trade status to other countries that still charge us taxes and tariffs on our goods that we try to sell in their country. We allow our Congress to vote their own pay raises and health benefits without any say so from the very people they are paid to represent. Our borders and homeland security is a joke and are freely violated without any concern from the very people we place our trust. We send our military men and women around the world to fight for causes that are unclear and to fight for people that are unwilling to fight for themselves. We give welfare to people that don’t want to work and actually encourage them to continue being worthless through our economic policies. Enough is enough! I think we should hold our leaders feet to the fire to correct these mistakes or replace them with men and women who can get the job done. It’s about time we, the people, took our country back over from the ones that have almost destroyed it.

The following items are just some of the things we should demand of our government and reasonably expect them to do. If they can’t do these things or are just unwilling to do them, then we should replace them….. NO QUESTIONS ASKED!

1. Our borders need to be immediately secured. I don’t have a problem with people coming to our country legally to work. But let’s require them to be registered, monitored, taxed (as we are) and to go home when their work visa runs out. If they want to apply for citizenship, then they should be allowed to do so, as long as they meet the requirements set for gaining that citizenship (as I recall, speaking English is a requirement.)

2. Loans, grants, and aid to other countries should be voted on by the registered voters of this country. No longer should our hard earn taxes be given to other countries without approval from the very same people that earned and paid those taxes. These same aids should come with stipulations and terms of usage and repayment and have collateral attached to them. This is no different than what any person or company in the United States has to agree to when we borrow money.

3. All countries seeking free trade status with the United States should give us the same status in their country. Any countries that already have free trade status that is not doing the same should have their free trade status immediately revoked.

4. Our welfare system needs to be changed. We should no longer give money to people that do not work. Welfare should be given to people that are working and trying to better themselves. There should be a set time limit for people to receive this help and they should not be allowed to reapply for a reasonable amount of time.

5. Our tax system needs to be completely overhauled and a new system put in place. A flat tax should be put in place of what we have now. This way everyone pays the same percentage of their income regardless of how much they make. This is the only fair way of taxing income for everybody involved and it is easily understandable.

6. Our Congress should not be allowed to vote their own pay raises and healthcare benefits. No one I know gets to decide how much he makes and vote his own pay raises. I also don’t know anyone who can vote themselves free healthcare. Congress’ pay and healthcare should be voted on by the people that elect them, not themselves.

7. Our country’s military should not be sent to any other country without clear and precise planning as to what is to be accomplished and a plan as to what kind of time frame can be expected. War should always be a last resort, but if we are going to fight, then allow the military to do the job without Congress trying to control the war. If we are going to ask our military to fight for us, then turn them loose to do so. No politics should be involved. I’m pretty sure that our admirals and generals know how our military works best. Do the job….. Get it over with…..Come home!

8. This is my personal favorite! No person running for public office should be allowed to accept any type of campaign contribution from any industry, business, or special interest group. They should only be allowed to accept contributions from individuals and in amounts no larger than $10,000. NO EXCEPTIONS! Any politician caught accepting these contribution should be fired or disqualified from running immediately. Anyone caught funneling money through other individuals to bypass these campaign laws should be prosecuted and put in jail. If I understand how our society is supposed to work, then I’m fairly sure our politicians work for and answer to us.


If you agree with these thoughts, then add your name to the list and copy and paste them in your emails to all of your friends. Also feel free to copy and post this on any forum site that you visit.


James M. Wheat

[leveldrummer]

fair tax!

Osama i mean Obama or Hilldog Clinton are not the answers thats for sure lol

[Exrider434]

^So youd rather have McCain, and have it be like bush is president again?

Originally posted by Exrider434
^So youd rather have McCain, and have it be like bush is president again?


Serial.

When ever I hear someone call Obama "Osama" I automatically assume that person is a complete ignorant moron.

"z0mg his name sounds like osama!11!zomg!!:eek: :eek: :eek: hes teh devil!!!11!"

or.. "dat dang guy sounds like one of dem terriosts, LETS NUKE EM!!GIT-R-DONE!"

[440racer66]

^^^^^^^^^^ i agree with you 100 percent
haha im a lil over 17 and a half and guess who im voting for obama haha im hopin when he get into office he gets real gangsta on some terrorist... nah jkjk i am gonna vote for him i think he will make a difference

[450raider]

ive been a republican since i could vote but this time i stand by clinton (heck republicans gotta eat too) and everyone can say that were not ready for a dem pres. and while that may be, can we really stand a 3rd bush term? where prices get higher on things like gas, food, and education and yet pay gets lower and the harder you work , the more your pay lowers heres my take (at the moment) :

bush- good job with security, although i have a hard time believing that the gov. with trillions of dollars can find a guy that runs around dressed in a bedsheet, blew it economy wise stated above and giving immigrants too much freedom, along with treehugging hippies.

mccain- same as bush, may change a thing or two in the beginning, but itll all be the same in the end.

obama- seems towant to change everything and we dont need it and i wanna make this clear (and im not bitter), its not really him that im afraid of getting in the white house, its the thought of a.s. or j.j. pulling the strings behind the scenes that sickens me, that would be worst than a second coming of hitler.

clinton- everyone talk how she ran the show on bills term and we were fine then, and she seems to be the most balanced on what does and doesnt need changed.

just my thought

Originally posted by 450raider
ive been a republican since i could vote but this time i stand by clinton (heck republicans gotta eat too) and everyone can say that were not ready for a dem pres. and while that may be, can we really stand a 3rd bush term? where prices get higher on things like gas, food, and education and yet pay gets lower and the harder you work , the more your pay lowers heres my take (at the moment) :

bush- good job with security, although i have a hard time believing that the gov. with trillions of dollars can find a guy that runs around dressed in a bedsheet, blew it economy wise stated above and giving immigrants too much freedom, along with treehugging hippies.

mccain- same as bush, may change a thing or two in the beginning, but itll all be the same in the end.

obama- seems towant to change everything and we dont need it and i wanna make this clear (and im not bitter), its not really him that im afraid of getting in the white house, its the thought of a.s. or j.j. pulling the strings behind the scenes that sickens me, that would be worst than a second coming of hitler.

clinton- everyone talk how she ran the show on bills term and we were fine then, and she seems to be the most balanced on what does and doesnt need changed.

just my thought

What is a.s or j.j? Anyway, Clinton is getting pretty desperate now. Making up stories how she was being shot at in Bosnia and such.

[leveldrummer]

clinton is a socialist,

obama, seems like a good talker, but other than "we need change" and " we need something to believe in" i have yet to here him mention any policies that really make sense.


mccain, well, he might as well be a democrat himself, its a loose loose loose situation in my eyes,


im voting libertarian. i feel they have the right ideals.

[reptikes]

Originally posted by leveldrummer
clint


mccain, well, he might as well be a democrat himself, its a loose loose loose situation in my eyes,




McCain is as republician as it gets! What the H3ll are you talking about? Obama all the way. Although i wanted John Edwards in the primary. He is a guy you would want running the country, hands down.

[NJ450rider]

CLINTON AND OBAMA HATE YOU!!!! Thats right folks they hate us all on here. They are against public land for off highway vehicle use!!!!!!! They are anti anything involoving atvs, dirtbikes, 4x4's sandrails, you name it. They want to close all public land to save the enviorment. I know it was greatly sadend when i found this out too. So to put it frankly.

A VOTE FOR CLINTON OR OBAMA IS A VOTE AGAINST YOUR RIGHT TO RIDE!!!!!


Let it be known that i hate the rebulican party as well and i believe we need to throw out our current system and start over. A two party system has failed us!!!

[<DRS>GPF]

pfft... political threads..
so far, ive seen little more that one persons opinion..


if there's factual data out there to back up the comments, show it.(there is, i just want those waving the flags to back their words)

otherwise youre convincing nobody but yourself.

[450raider]

Originally posted by nofearrider1
What is a.s or j.j?



sharpton and jackson, or the likes of that one pastor guy that hates america yet cant find his way out, its the thought of them pulling the strings that scares the h*** out of me, if you think whites are the minorities now, you aint seen nothin yet, if he gets the primary, then im going with mccain

and just for the record im not thrilled with my vote (or any candidates for that matter), i just think its the best for now, i wish a real blue collard person would come from out of nowhere and take the election by storm (like the guy from dirty jobs :D) or lewis black, or chuck norris, or jim norton would work

[chevy]

I vote Tony Sorprano for president!!!

[54warrior]

This is a quote from another forum, alot of valid points here:


For a hundred years, it has been proven that cut taxes on business and business hires people. At the end of the day, the government makes more in taxes. Bush cut spending on the VA, give me a break. Bush has no money, period. The congress, as they did in the last month, brings the VA in front of them and decides how much money they get. President can holler and scream but it is a congressional job. I go to the VA hospitals and I know the differences in the last several years. Before you waited forever for an appointment . Now I am scheduled and go and get seen within reasonable time limits. I am also treated with respect. Republicans tend to fight for Christian values because the dems are always trying to get religion, not out of the schools, but out of the nation. When I went to school, as did the kids for the first 160 years, had prayer in schools and no one fought to throw Christmas out of the public view like today. Most folks under 40 have no idea how things were and think the anti-Christian world today has always been there. You say you want separation of church and state but your group wants crosses removed from churches, Christmas manger scenes removed cause it hurts the eyes of athiests. The arguement that athiests only want it out of schools and politics is BS. The want Christians gone, period. So the fight begins. Christians will not be pushed around by athiests and their supporters, fight they want , fight they get. This fight goes all the way back to the death of Christ, they hated him then and now. As for Social Security, folks my age paid in to SS and your heroes pulled all our money out and put it into the general fund. That is why we are in trouble, the illegals and the non workers now get our SS money. So now we have to depend on young guys like you to pay our SS because your heroes stole ours. Things are not like you say, just how you see it.

[reptikes]

Obama siad he would have Gore tackle Global Warming under his Presidency. I strongly believe that Global Warming is one of the biggest threats to the world today. And is one of the most under-rated threats of our time.

[54warrior]

Originally posted by reptikes
Obama siad he would have Gore tackle Global Warming under his Presidency. I strongly believe that Global Warming is one of the biggest threats to the world today. And is one of the most under-rated threats of our time.

Are you serious???

Global Warming is the biggest scam they've come up with yet. I'll post a link tomorrow when I get back to work, don't have the page bookmarked on this comp. Hundreds of pages worth of facts that disprove global warming, from reliable sources too!!

[07trx400ex]

Thank you, everyone should do some REAL research on global warming. I have to say it would be a nice way to funnel billions of dollars into a project without earmarks though.

[MotoX_Racer07]

How about I just got a new job working for General Electric and got a drug test for every drug known to man. Why is it that some worthless POS can get welfare and not have to take a drug test? Yes I believe people have a right to put whatever they want into their bodies. But when it comes to the guy trying to better himself in life he has to work even harder to make the money. But some lowlife can get free money and basically not try or pop another kid out? Global warming, that to me is not a concern, yes I'll be dead by the time it really matters, and I'm not saying it isn't a problem. But throughout the earths life cycle it has endured ridiculously different weather cycles. Man isn't going to last forever. If anything we will destroy ourselves with some crazy nuclear war or who knows a huge asteroid could wipe us out a year from now. Truth is I may be wrong, but who the hell really knows? The way the whole earth and its people are headed, its going to only get worse. People just don't have the balls to take a stand anymore. Poorly parented kids, devoriced parents, crappy education system. Its all a bunch of things piled together that make everything slowly crumble. Yeah there is probably a million other things also but you get my drift. I think anyone could go on for hours. We just need a change from that retard bush. He has done nothing but make our national deficit double into the trillions. He doesn't care about a single one of us, He made his millions on his Oil stocks. The American people were never a concern to him if you ask me. I think Obama is the guy to take it to the next level. Who wants to see it go from Bush Sr, Clinton, Bush Jr and then right back to Clinton again. Its just Family that keeps alternating. Change is Good!

[kawiefan]

Global warming is total bull s h i t. It's a natural occuring cycle.

AS for Clinton, she needs a 3rd eye.

Originally posted by 54warrior
Are you serious???

Global Warming is the biggest scam they've come up with yet. I'll post a link tomorrow when I get back to work, don't have the page bookmarked on this comp. Hundreds of pages worth of facts that disprove global warming, from reliable sources too!!

Its a cover up so Gore and go after the bigger problem...










http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l62/theonlyPHELPS/manbearpig.jpg

[kawiefan]

manbearpig

Originally posted by kawiefan
manbearpig

thats the 1st thing I thought of when I saw that, Randy saying "manbearpig"

[450raider]

Originally posted by MotoX_Racer07
How about I just got a new job working for General Electric and got a drug test for every drug known to man. Why is it that some worthless POS can get welfare and not have to take a drug test? Yes I believe people have a right to put whatever they want into their bodies. But when it comes to the guy trying to better himself in life he has to work even harder to make the money. But some lowlife can get free money and basically not try or pop another kid out? Global warming, that to me is not a concern, yes I'll be dead by the time it really matters, and I'm not saying it isn't a problem. But throughout the earths life cycle it has endured ridiculously different weather cycles. Man isn't going to last forever. If anything we will destroy ourselves with some crazy nuclear war or who knows a huge asteroid could wipe us out a year from now. Truth is I may be wrong, but who the hell really knows? The way the whole earth and its people are headed, its going to only get worse. People just don't have the balls to take a stand anymore. Poorly parented kids, devoriced parents, crappy education system. Its all a bunch of things piled together that make everything slowly crumble. Yeah there is probably a million other things also but you get my drift. I think anyone could go on for hours. We just need a change from that retard bush. He has done nothing but make our national deficit double into the trillions. He doesn't care about a single one of us, He made his millions on his Oil stocks. The American people were never a concern to him if you ask me. I think Obama is the guy to take it to the next level. Who wants to see it go from Bush Sr, Clinton, Bush Jr and then right back to Clinton again. Its just Family that keeps alternating. Change is Good!

Couldnt. Agree. More.

(except for that obama part, but lets enjoy our right to disagree while we have it!)

[chevy]

if there really is such a thing as global warming, Al Gore needs to go have a talk with countries like China and India, their the ones polluting earth the most..

[07trx400ex]

I'm serial.

[Heybo]

Originally posted by 07trx400ex
I'm serial.

Are your sure?? Maybe your parallel.

[leveldrummer]

excelsior!! http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f6/Ghjkl.JPG

[leveldrummer]

but serial,

global warming is the biggest joke ive ever heard of...


the thing about it that really bugs me, is that no one will admit that CO2 is NOT a pollutant!!!

no one will consider that the sun has been far more active in the past years to really help heat up the earth!

and my main problem with the global warming thing is...

who the hell are we to say that this climate that we have right now, is the ideal climate for the earth? maybe its just supposed to be a couple degrees hotter, and its just returning from the past ice age?

[Crashmore 22]

Originally posted by reptikes
McCain is as republician as it gets! What the H3ll are you talking about? Obama all the way. Although i wanted John Edwards in the primary. He is a guy you would want running the country, hands down.

Are you serious? You think a guy that gives $400 for a haircut should be running the country? Even the democrats knew he would have been a bad idea?:huh

[Crashmore 22]

Originally posted by Exrider434
^So youd rather have McCain, and have it be like bush is president again?

McCain is calling for a cut on the federal gas tax! First time I have heard ANYONE even mention a temporary solution.

Last year the gov. spent 600 billion of our tax dollars on education and Obama thinks we, middle class Americans, can come up with 14 billion more? If the United States can't give the children a quality education for $600 billion dollars, then the damn school system needs to be overhauled!

And Clinton :eek2: You want another Clinton in office? The first impeachment wasn't enough?

[54warrior]

Chew on this, it's worth taking time to read, although it is 37 pages!!

http://media.kusi.clickability.com/documents/Comments+on+Global+Warming1.pdf

[blasterfreak99]

i should be president :chinese: haha jk i actually have no idea who should be president, i dont keep up with it, at least not now, i will when im old enough to vote

[leveldrummer]

why exactly does everyone think bush is such a crappy president?

im not saying he is the best in the world, but he certainly isnt that bad. he cant talk worth a damn. he's kinda a goober, but he has done nothing so damn horrible that gets everyone fired up as bad as they do, hell bill clinton did a thousand things worse, look at good ole jimmy carter. what the hell is so wrong with george w?

[mxdad]

The thing that rubs me wrong is all of the democratic supporters talking about how Bush did this and Bush did that and how we need a change, etc...

Guess what people, two years ago we got a change when the Democrats took over Congress. They control both the House and the Senate and HAVE HAD THE POWER TO CHANGE THINGS BUT THEY HAVE CHANGED NOTHING!!! They are too busy trying to make the country look bad so people will vote for them in the upcoming election. They could care less about you and I. They will intentionally watch you & I suffer if they think they can use it to their advantage in an election year. Get a clue people!!!

The people here in my lovely state of Maryland decided they wanted a "change" last year in the Governor's race and boy did they get it. They got rid of a republican that did a fantastic job with our economy and brought our unemplyment rate down to one of the lowest in the country. They used the same kind of lies and bs to make him look bad and it worked. The people elected a Democratic Governor and he rewarded those same people by holding a special session and implementing the highest ever tax increases this state has ever seen. Our electric bill is up 70% in the past year, he raised our sales tax 20%, cigarette tax went up $1 a pack, and there were countless other tax increases that are destroying our states economy. Is this the kind of change everyone wants??? Do you feel you are not paying enough taxes? Because you will pay more if Obama or Clinton get elected.

I know the Democrats are trying to say that McCain is very very Republican or too far right but truthfully he is the closest thing to moderate that is running in this election. Both Clinton & Obama are way too far to the left and if one of them is elected we will still have a country that is basically divided down the middle.

The best case scenario would be to elect someone from a third party to show both the Republicans and Democrats that we will not stand for the same old BS for another four years but that will never happen. The problem is neither side wants to comprimise at all. I consider myself a republican but I do not discount the beliefs of Democrats. There is middle ground on all issues that could be found if we did not only have two parties running our country. Until there is a third or even a fourth party to run against these guys then they will just keep taking turns isolating 50% of our population with their policies.

As far as everyone thinking that if we elect Hilary things will just go back to where they were in the 90's, YOU ARE DEAD WRONG!!! First things first is that Bill Clinton was the benificiary of twelve years of Republican economic policies which led to the tech boom in the 90' by not overtaxing small businesses, promoting technology, etc... And the tech boom was exactly that, a "boom". Which means that it blew up and everyone did great but just like all things it had to end at some point and only the strong survived after it leveled off.

Wake up people!!! Things are not going to "change" if we elect any of these three. The only way to get a true change is to elect a third party President but that will not happen.

So since I have rambled enough I will close this by saying. PLEASE people don't just vote for or against someone just because they are Democrat or Republican. Vote for the person that will do the best to help our country as a whole and not just for your personal beliefs. For me that is a guy that understands what our troops are dealing with in this war and relates to them on a personal level. Someone that's not afraid to stand up for what he believes in and not hold back from telling people how he really feels. Someone that will not raise taxes on the people that pay the most taxes already just to pander votes from the people that don't want to work in this country. Someone that will not take away our personal rights to enjoy our favorite sport. Etc... etc... etc... I could go on forever but in short...This year that will be McCain for me but hopefully in the future there will be more that just two choices and we can truly decide who is best suited to run this country.

[Giz400ex]

Originally posted by leveldrummer
why exactly does everyone think bush is such a crappy president?

im not saying he is the best in the world, but he certainly isnt that bad. he cant talk worth a damn. he's kinda a goober, but he has done nothing so damn horrible that gets everyone fired up as bad as they do, hell bill clinton did a thousand things worse, look at good ole jimmy carter. what the hell is so wrong with george w? I guess if you don't see it now, you'll never see it:(

[Giz400ex]

Originally posted by Crashmore 22


And Clinton :eek2: You want another Clinton in office? The first impeachment wasn't enough? Well, our economy was alot better then than it is now:huh

[Dupontster]

Heybo...I am glad you put your name at the bottom of your post...Reason is, I am starting a write in campaign for you....I agree with all that you said....Excellent post...Damn shame it'll never happen though...Another excellent post is from my fellow Marylander..mxdad...What this country really needs is common sense voters...Not voters that vote strictly democratic or republican....People that vote for the best person for the job...There should be a spending limit for candidates too...You have Hillary & Obama raising these record number dollars for a 200K a year job....Can you say "Screw the people, I want the power..." It is really sickening the way this country has gone downhill...

[Old Dirtbiker]

The economy was better because Nafta did not exist until Bill Clinton was elected. Even Mrs. Clinton commented that it needs to be adjusted and she helped put it together.
She was also at the core of:
Travel gate, Vince Foster being shot and Ron Brown dying in a plane crash, ( not impacting the ground but gunshot to head )

I could go on for days about her involvement while getting her so called "EXPERIENCE" that she wants to bring back to the White House.
I know this is only a forum, I'm not smart enough to understand adding links, ( I went to public schools) but its all on the net under Clinton scandals.

This Obama guy, well let's just say he needs to change something in Chicago before he gets to the White House.
Enough about him

Bush can't control the what a barrel of oil cost. I'm still driving my gas sucking SUV, full size pickup, dirtbike, quads and the big hole in the water which some call a boat. It's more my fault than his.
For you younger ones, it's called market demand.

I agree with the above posting about democrats being against ATV'S, budget cuts at parks, etc. I would like to add the additional gun control that will again be imposed on us provided either democrat is put in office. (again on the net)

I don't agree with all of Bush's thoughts either. Last election was between him and wishy washy Kerry. This was a no brainer.

McCain has real experiance, is respected by the Military and is not afraid to take the fight where it belongs.
Is he perfect?
Do I agree with everything that he hopes to do?
Not by along shot.
Will he attempt to do whats right by the American people.
I think his record speaks for itself.

Regardless of my rambling, the important thing here is to Vote.

I may not like who ends up in the Office but will still enjoy living in the Greatest Nation on this whole planet.

[leveldrummer]

Originally posted by Giz400ex
I guess if you don't see it now, you'll never see it:(

thats exactly what i mean, no one can say, they only regurgitate the same old argument, bush is the worst, he did this and that... when in all actuality, the president doesnt have that much power, its congress that makes all the choices, the only true power the president holds alone would be going to war, which is a different debate all together.



but i gotta say, mxdad, you said that better than i can ever imagine, you hit the nail on the head, and im so tired of seeing a great nation slip away into destruction. it seems like more and more the voices of the ignorant are played over loud speakers while the ideas of people that would actually help are being swept under the carpet.

[Crashmore 22]

Originally posted by Giz400ex
Well, our economy was alot better then than it is now:huh

The problem with our economy is our free trade agreements. Sales in the US are up, but since most products are produced in China or Mexico, the revenue goes to those countries.

This was created during the Clinton campaign, so although the economy is moving towards/currently in a recession it is the result of what Bush's predecessor thought was a good idea.

MXDAD, I couldn't agree more, I was and still am a Ron Paul supporter because he wasn't owned by either party. You will never get a true candidate until something is changed in the election process, big business chooses the candidates and electoral vote not popular vote chooses the President.

[Giz400ex]

Originally posted by Crashmore 22
The problem with our economy is our free trade agreements. Sales in the US are up, but since most products are produced in China or Mexico, the revenue goes to those countries.

This was created during the Clinton campaign, so although the economy is moving towards/currently in a recession it is the result of what Bush's predecessor thought was a good idea.

MXDAD, I couldn't agree more, I was and still am a Ron Paul supporter because he wasn't owned by either party. You will never get a true candidate until something is changed in the election process, big business chooses the candidates and electoral vote not popular vote chooses the President. I really don't care what was created when ect.. All I care about is how it benefits us (the taxpayers) and right now I don't see a single one. Our country, the people that make this country are working there balls of off to barely make it by today! It wasn't like that 9 years ago:ermm:

[leveldrummer]

Originally posted by Giz400ex
I really don't care what was created when ect.. All I care about is how it benefits us (the taxpayers) and right now I don't see a single one. Our country, the people that make this country are working there balls of off to barely make it by today! It wasn't like that 9 years ago:ermm:


so you assume the evil president did all this to screw us over? it has nothing to do with the housing market crashing? with the people we buy oil from jacking up the prices every 3 days? with illegal aliens under cutting tax paying americans driving prices down on labor? immigrants sending billions of dollars earned here to other countries? i guess it has nothing to do with so many companies "down sizing" and moving over seas to tax havens, and to where they dont have to worry about emission?

of course not! its the presidents fault!

he is the one that hit the "destroy the economy" button right?

i guess he made a law all by himself at some point that said, 'screw the people! im the president"

that makes perfect sense now, i guess i kinda agree with you now that bush himself has really screwed up the whole country. thanks for clearing that up.

[Giz400ex]

Originally posted by leveldrummer
"

that makes perfect sense now, i guess i kinda agree with you now that bush himself has really screwed up the whole country. thanks for clearing that up. Welcome:)

[MotoX_Racer07]

If you ask me, this Iraq war is killing the economy and next to it the fuel prices. 592 billion dollars so far and climbing was spent on this war, last I checked. Thats ridiculous. I don't believe it made us here at home any safer. We should of put that money into protecting our borders, create new jobs, schools, health care and the list could go on and on. How many wetbacks keep getting over here and our government gives them funding and helps them become legal. Illegal to me is Illegal as doing drugs, driving drunk or shooting endangered animals. Why Americans have to feel sorry for them is beyond me, always so politically correct. Ship any illegal back, piss on them. Now everything is in Spanish, I mean c'mon this is getting to be terrible. What other country would cave and make it easy for an illegal. What do they call it racial profiling? We make a word up for everything. Learn to speak the language of the country bottom line. Its funny because any American gets $hit on when it comes to our government. Our Government helps other countries out more so then its own. They blow our hard eared tax dollars on stuff that doesn't even benefit the people that make this country great. Then they are giving these tax relief checks, this isn't helping the economy, accept for fellow Americans to pay bills. Look at the millions they spent just to send out the Notice. Totally ridiculous. Mines going right on the mortgage. Just like the millions of other people going to pay some bills. Lower fuel prices and the economy will start to turn back around. If gas & diesel prices were lowered it would stop the rise of everything nearly. Everything we rely on comes by trucks, and all the food we eat is planted and harvested by tractors. Gas goes up, they just charge more for it all. Our whole economy relies on fuel. It really didn't go up until this pointless war came about. But I can get carried away, and ramble for hours. Its a bunch of problems that helped get it to this and finally its all starting to go down hill. I will blame the President because he declared war, which I believe made it come to this. So much for there intelligence and the weapons of mass destruction LOL They were so sure they were there. Wasn't it Osama we should of went for?

[Crashmore 22]

Originally posted by Giz400ex
I really don't care what was created when ect.. All I care about is how it benefits us (the taxpayers) and right now I don't see a single one. Our country, the people that make this country are working there balls of off to barely make it by today! It wasn't like that 9 years ago:ermm:

Then take a look at this:

Subject: In just one year
This email comesin three parts:
Part 1
In just one year. Remember the election in 2006?
Thought you might like to read the following:
A little over one year ago:
1) Consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 year high;
2) Regular gasoline sold for $2.19 a gallon;
3) The unemployment rate was 4.5%.
Since voting in a Democratic Congress in 2006 we have seen:
1) Consumer confidence plummet;
2) The cost of regular gasoline soar to over $3.50 a gallon;
3) Unemployment is up to 5% (a 10% increase);
4) American households have seen $2.3 trillion in equity value evaporate (stock and mutual fund losses);
5) Americans have seen their home equity drop by $1.2 trillion dollars;
6) 1% of American homes are in foreclosure.

America voted for change in 2006, and we got it!
Remember it's Congress that makes law not the President. He has to work with what's handed to him.
Part 2:
Taxes...Whether Democrat or a Republican you will find these statistics enlightening and amazing.www.taxfoundation.org/publications/show/151.html
Taxes under Clinton 1999Taxes under Bush 2008
Single making 30K - tax $8,400 Single making 30K - tax $4,500 Single making 50K - tax $14,000 Single making 50K - tax $12,500 Single making 75K - tax $23,250 Single making 75K - tax $18,750 Married making 60K - tax $16,800 Married making 60K- tax $9,000 Married making 75K - tax $21,000 Married making 75K - tax $18,750 Married making 125K - tax $38,750 Married making 125K - tax $31,250
Both democratic canidates will return to the higher tax rates
It is amazing how many people that fall into the categories above think Bush is screwing them and Bill Clinton was the greatest President ever. If Obama or Hillary are elected, they both say they will repeal the Bush tax cuts and a good portion of the people that fall into the categories above can't wait for it to happen. This is like the movie The Sting with Paul Newman; you scam somebody out of some money and they don't even know what happened.
PART 3:
You think the war in Iraq is costing us too much?

Read this:
Boy am I confused. I have been hammered with the propaganda that it
is the Iraq war and the war on terror that is bankrupting us.
I now find that to be RIDICULOUS.

I hope the following 14 reasons are forwarded over and over again
until they are read so many times that the reader gets sick of reading them. I
have included the URL's for verification of all the following facts.
1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens
each year by state governments.
Verify at:http://tinyurl.com/zob77

2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs
such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens.
Verify at:http://www.cis..org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens.
Verify at:http://www.cis..org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html
4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school
education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English!
Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.0.html
5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the
American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.
Verify athttp://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens.
Verify at:http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.
Verify at:http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare &
social services by the American taxpayers.
Verify at: http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html
9. $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused
by the illegal aliens.
Verify at:http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate
that's two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular,
their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US
Verify at:http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/12/ldt.01.html
11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens
that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens
from Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroin
and mariju ana, crossed into the U. S from the Southern border.
Verify at: Homeland Security Report: http://tinyurl.com/t9sht
12. The National Policy Institute, "estimated that the total
cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average
cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period."
Verify at: http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/pdf/deportation.pdf
13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances
back to their countries of origin.
Verify at:http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm
14. "The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million
Sex Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States."
Verify at:http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml

The total cost is a whopping $338.3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR.
Are we THAT stupid?If this doesn't bother you then just delete the message. If, on the other
hand, if it does raise the hair on the back of your neck, I hope you
forward it to every legal resident in the country including every representative in
Washington, D.C. - five times a week for as long as it takes to restore
some semblance of intelligence in our policies and enforcement thereof.Taxes under Clinton 1999Taxes under Bush 2008

[<DRS>GPF]

Originally posted by Crashmore 22
Then take a look at this:
.Taxes under Clinton 1999Taxes under Bush 2008


if i put little to no effort into it, i could find something similar for just about every politician under every presidency for the last 40yrs..
i see the rich get richer and the poor get poorer..


vote with your own eyes and your own heads or dont bother..

i cant stand interviews with the ignorant who cant explain why they voted for their candidate...

what makes you vote that way???

many just "go with the flow", voting based on the influences of the people theyre around..


i honestly cant see any of the players in this game bringing the US out of the gutters, so once again im left with a lesser of the evils..

which one of these self-serving, carpetbaggin' jerks is going to do the least amount of damage?

is any one of them going to have the capability of fixing any of the big issues?

[Heybo]

Originally posted by Dupontster
Heybo...I am glad you put your name at the bottom of your post...Reason is, I am starting a write in campaign for you....I agree with all that you said....Excellent post...Damn shame it'll never happen though...Another excellent post is from my fellow Marylander..mxdad...What this country really needs is common sense voters...Not voters that vote strictly democratic or republican....People that vote for the best person for the job...There should be a spending limit for candidates too...You have Hillary & Obama raising these record number dollars for a 200K a year job....Can you say "Screw the people, I want the power..." It is really sickening the way this country has gone downhill...

Thanks Duponster. So many people have taken this post as an opportunity to profess how bad the Democrats or the Republicans(depending on their view) are for the country. I personally am a Republican and have been my whole voting life (that's over 20 years).

My original post wasn't to make people pick a particular presidential candidate, but to make people wake up and realize how much damage we have allowed all of our politicians to do to our country. It's time we start holding them accountable for their actions and decisions. I'm tired of my government making decisions that affect my economic well-being and safety without asking us (the taxpayers/ their bosses) what we think about it. The taxpayers of this country really need to start asking hard questions to our politicians and expecting good sensible answers.

If we were all stock holders in a major corporation, and our CEO and board were making dumb choices that were costing tons of money and economic difficulties, we would vote them off the board and replace them with people that would do what we wanted them to do. There is no one to blame for our problems but us because we allow this to happen. We allow it every day with our lack vocal outrage and we allow it everytime we go to the polls and vote the same people back into the positions they hold.

For what it's worth..... I think we missed the boat when we didn't vote for Ross Perot for President back in 1990. That man made more economic sense than any candidate that I have ever heard. He tried to tell everyone that NAFTA was a bad idea and all you would hear is a big whooshing noise that would be our economy and jobs leaving our country.

[m.h.s.c.#527]

Originally posted by Heybo
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2. Loans, grants, and aid to other countries should be voted on by the registered voters of this country. No longer should our hard earn taxes be given to other countries without approval from the very same people that earned and paid those taxes. These same aids should come with stipulations and terms of usage and repayment and have collateral attached to them. This is no different than what any person or company in the United States has to agree to when we borrow money.

6. Our Congress should not be allowed to vote their own pay raises and healthcare benefits. No one I know gets to decide how much he makes and vote his own pay raises. I also don’t know anyone who can vote themselves free healthcare. Congress’ pay and healthcare should be voted on by the people that elect them, not themselves.




thats y these people are representatives wed be going to the polls everyday us voting isnt the answer but there is a way to do it based on cost of living

[54warrior]

More about Global COOLING!!! Yes, I said Cooling, NOT warming


http://www.nationalpost.com/opinion/columnists/story.html?id=f6fa4aca-61b4-4824-adb4-78eb8fa9081a

[smartypants]

we dont' need a bich a brotha or a muslim leading our country, git r dun.