tri5ron
03-28-2008, 03:45 PM
now let me first set the stage, so this dosent go all cattywampus LOL!
I just recieved my new '08 450r shocks that I purchased from one of the forum members here.
(btw- THANKS Russ, they are exactally as you described, BRAND SPANKIN" NEW!, they have never even seen dirt).
I have taken the time, and read through all 22 pages of the "how to" sticky thread, for installing 450r shocks on our 400ex's.
ALOT of good info there, and from what I have read, there is no doubt it is a great upgrade for the budget minded rider.
The only REAL complaint seems to be, that the stock 450r shock, used with stock 400ex a-arms, are a little too stiff for trail or lower speed or woods type riding.
Naturally, the proper fix for this is to go to a dual or triple rate spring, and a good revalve job.
Alot of people even say that a set of dual/triple rate springs WITHOUT a revalve job is an amazing improvement.
so lets hold that thought for a moment, and consider another possible alternative...
Almost everyone hates the "Pogo Sticks" that come stock on our 400ex's. BUT,... The complaint with them is that they are POGO STICKS, Right?
So isn't it reasonable to assume that the real problem with the stock 400ex shocks lays solely in that they are non-adjustable, and have no decent valving?
And if that is so, then isnt it also reasonable to assume that for the most part, the complaint with the stock 400ex shocks is NOT with the springs??? but rather the valving and non-adjustablity ?
so let me bring this back around to my question.
and remember, that I already realize, there is no doubt, duals, or triples, are far superior to single stage springs...
BUT ! for a interim fix to the "too stiff" stock 450r springs,
while I'm waiting for the piggy-bank to allow the purchase of new springs/re-valve job,....
What would you think of using the stock springs from the 400ex shocks, ON the 450r shocks?
would they be less stiff than the 450r springs?
would they fit?
keep in mind that I am not going to be jumping 6 feet in the air, or ripping around a MX track.
99% of my riding will be open desert, average sized whoops, and a few medium sized jumps.
I weigh about 190 lbs in full gear, and am not trying to hold the "Leader of the pack" position.
so What say you?...
do you think this could be a temporary fix for putting 450r shocks on a 400ex, without re-valving, and cure the "Too stiff in the smaller/slower stuff???
I just recieved my new '08 450r shocks that I purchased from one of the forum members here.
(btw- THANKS Russ, they are exactally as you described, BRAND SPANKIN" NEW!, they have never even seen dirt).
I have taken the time, and read through all 22 pages of the "how to" sticky thread, for installing 450r shocks on our 400ex's.
ALOT of good info there, and from what I have read, there is no doubt it is a great upgrade for the budget minded rider.
The only REAL complaint seems to be, that the stock 450r shock, used with stock 400ex a-arms, are a little too stiff for trail or lower speed or woods type riding.
Naturally, the proper fix for this is to go to a dual or triple rate spring, and a good revalve job.
Alot of people even say that a set of dual/triple rate springs WITHOUT a revalve job is an amazing improvement.
so lets hold that thought for a moment, and consider another possible alternative...
Almost everyone hates the "Pogo Sticks" that come stock on our 400ex's. BUT,... The complaint with them is that they are POGO STICKS, Right?
So isn't it reasonable to assume that the real problem with the stock 400ex shocks lays solely in that they are non-adjustable, and have no decent valving?
And if that is so, then isnt it also reasonable to assume that for the most part, the complaint with the stock 400ex shocks is NOT with the springs??? but rather the valving and non-adjustablity ?
so let me bring this back around to my question.
and remember, that I already realize, there is no doubt, duals, or triples, are far superior to single stage springs...
BUT ! for a interim fix to the "too stiff" stock 450r springs,
while I'm waiting for the piggy-bank to allow the purchase of new springs/re-valve job,....
What would you think of using the stock springs from the 400ex shocks, ON the 450r shocks?
would they be less stiff than the 450r springs?
would they fit?
keep in mind that I am not going to be jumping 6 feet in the air, or ripping around a MX track.
99% of my riding will be open desert, average sized whoops, and a few medium sized jumps.
I weigh about 190 lbs in full gear, and am not trying to hold the "Leader of the pack" position.
so What say you?...
do you think this could be a temporary fix for putting 450r shocks on a 400ex, without re-valving, and cure the "Too stiff in the smaller/slower stuff???