525 V's craptor 700

[havoc01]

has anyone raced on yet? What was the outcome?

[rgasper33]

I raced my buddys. Mine was stock and his just has GYT-R pipe, and maybe k&n? Anyways I pulled like 1-2 quads on him right outta the hole, but his top end was a lil better and he could creep on me after a while. Now that I got JD Jet kit though I dont think he will pull at all anywhere!

[LT250_JOE]

This is my victory over a 660r. Mine was bone stock, his had cams, full exhaust, lid off w/k&n filter, holeshot tires. I challenged because he'd just raced and beat a 700r with gytr pipe and pwr commander.( Damn was he mad!!! He actually wound up buying a ktm 525 xc. That race is coming up in the spring!)

[bossman525]

i have raced quite a few 700's that had paddles, piped, ect. i have stock tires, no pipe, k&n, jd kit and have beat them all. have raced a few 660's and beat them, but lost to a trinity prepped 660 a few times tho. honestly, i really dont think the 700's are that fast i think the 660's are a little bit faster. just my .02

[LT250_JOE]

I agree. The 660's are faster, but the 700's have better suspension/brakes. I think up a steep hill the raptor may take a 525 but thats it

[scottwvu]

The above two posters are HIGH if they think that the 660 is faster than the 700. LMFAO!!!!!!!

I have owned 2 different 660's, and I now own a 700. While I cannot comment on the 700 vs 525, I can assure you I have dusted a whole bucking funch of 660's.

Perhaps people should know what they are talking about before they post hmmmmmm......

Sorry to hijack your post....carry on.....:D

[eerhard09]

I agree. I am a 525IRS owner and have a couple buddies who own 700R's and with the big three mods, filter, pipe, and ECU, they are FAST! There is no way a 660 is as fast as a 700R unless the motor is completely worked! Now, I have never lined up against the 700R, not one of my friends', so I can't comment on how they compare. We kind of have a little mutual respect for each other's machines and do not worry about who can get from point A to point B the quickest in a straight line.

[scottwvu]

Originally posted by eerhard09
I agree. I am a 525IRS owner and have a couple buddies who own 700R's and with the big three mods, filter, pipe, and ECU, they are FAST! There is no way a 660 is as fast as a 700R unless the motor is completely worked! Now, I have never lined up against the 700R, not one of my friends', so I can't comment on how they compare. We kind of have a little mutual respect for each other's machines and do not worry about who can get from point A to point B the quickest in a straight line.

Is there any way I can nominate this as post of the year?

I wish more riders had this "mutual respect" that you speak of. BRAVO to you, eerhard09!!!!!

[bossman525]

Originally posted by scottwvu
The above two posters are HIGH if they think that the 660 is faster than the 700. LMFAO!!!!!!!

I have owned 2 different 660's, and I now own a 700. While I cannot comment on the 700 vs 525, I can assure you I have dusted a whole bucking funch of 660's.

Perhaps people should know what they are talking about before they post hmmmmmm......

Sorry to hijack your post....carry on.....:D
dude, i think the ABOVE TWO POSTERS are just talking from expierence on what myself and LT JOE have ran against. everybody have different opinions and a me thinking that a 660 is faster than the 700 is just that. so coming on here and telling me and LT that we should know what we are talking about before we post is a little bit of flaming on your part. it always seems that way with raptor owners tho. and yes i do know what i'm talking about i have two different friends that own a 660 and 700 and i have ridden them both. and yes, they are both excellent machines. actually the 700 i have ridden probably more than him

[scottwvu]

Originally posted by bossman525
dude, i think the ABOVE TWO POSTERS are just talking from expierence on what myself and LT JOE have ran against. everybody have different opinions and a me thinking that a 660 is faster than the 700 is just that. so coming on here and telling me and LT that we should know what we are talking about before we post is a little bit of flaming on your part. it always seems that way with raptor owners tho. and yes i do know what i'm talking about i have two different friends that own a 660 and 700 and i have ridden them both. and yes, they are both excellent machines. actually the 700 i have ridden probably more than him

Fair enough. I won't knock you anymore. My apologies. Instead I will knock your friend's 700, cause something is SERIOUSLY wrong with his 700 if that 660 will beat it.

Nothing personal, just having a little fun.......

[smokinwrench]

Originally posted by scottwvu
I will knock your friend's 700, cause something is SERIOUSLY wrong with his 700 if that 660 will beat it.



I here that, I ride with mostly raptors both models and the stock 700's kill the piped and filtered 660's.

[willb]

Amen eer,

I can honestly say other than once as play, I nor anyone in my group has ever raced anybody.

Maybe it is a difference in terrain and riding style. I have played tag on one of Hatfields trails that one mistake either one of us would be dead. 4th gear pinned in the turn full power slides of 180 degrees plus. That was racing!!! It also was stupidity but:rolleyes:

[Ogener]

I've ridden both the 700 and the 525 and the 525 is way better to ride and it feels more in control on the trails. I love that KTM power and the IRS!

[mattg324]

well all i know is that my friends 2004 predator beat my other friends 2005 660 that had a GTYR pipe and was jetted, jn air filter and smoked his s**t. he was so pissed. and my friend with the predator raced his cousin who has a 2006 or 2007 700 and he just sh**s on him soooo bad. my friend with the pred even admits that he was riding full out, topped on the road, and the 700 passed him like nothing and just kept pulling. but i do think his 700 is piped, jetted and maybe has cams or something else and the pred had nothing.

EDIT: the 700 also had that CDI i think it is. i dont know what its called but its like 500 dollars and it gives the 700 so much life and power.

[laplap]

Originally posted by mattg324
well all i know is that my friends 2004 predator beat my other friends 2005 660 that had a GTYR pipe and was jetted, jn air filter and smoked his s**t. he was so pissed. and my friend with the predator raced his cousin who has a 2006 or 2007 700 and he just sh**s on him soooo bad. my friend with the pred even admits that he was riding full out, topped on the road, and the 700 passed him like nothing and just kept pulling. but i do think his 700 is piped, jetted and maybe has cams or something else and the pred had nothing.

EDIT: the 700 also had that CDI i think it is. i dont know what its called but its like 500 dollars and it gives the 700 so much life and power. Is there any way I can nominate this as post of the year :p

[RATPACK Z400]

If a predaturd beat a 700r it was rider error only there,s no way it would beat a rap 700

[mattg324]

yea i highly doubt a pred could beat a raptor. highly highly doubt it. and why would you nominate that as post of the year.

[rgasper33]

Originally posted by RATPACK Z400
If a predaturd beat a 700r it was rider error only there,s no way it would beat a rap 700

Read that. It says the preddy beat the 660. Which I know is 100% true, I never lost to one on my preddy, but the 700 beats the preddy, which I also know is true from experience. But in a 600 to 700 foot race the outlaw 525's take a 700 fairly handily. Though I think stock for stock the 700 has a lil bit better top end, bout 2-3 mph. both nice quads though!

[xrdrsux]

no jet kit for the 700.. just a reprogram of the air fuel. 525 and 700 is a good drag.. closest thing out there to an even race. I have had the chance a few times and PCIII, stock exhaust with baffle removed, and prodesign intake , beat the piped and jetted 525 in a 300ft drag 7 out of 10 times. My be due to rider or who knows. ohh and 700 just has one cam not cams.
I like the 525 even though i got bashed for talking about the recall thing again.


Originally posted by mattg324
well all i know is that my friends 2004 predator beat my other friends 2005 660 that had a GTYR pipe and was jetted, jn air filter and smoked his s**t. he was so pissed. and my friend with the predator raced his cousin who has a 2006 or 2007 700 and he just sh**s on him soooo bad. my friend with the pred even admits that he was riding full out, topped on the road, and the 700 passed him like nothing and just kept pulling. but i do think his 700 is piped, jetted and maybe has cams or something else and the pred had nothing.

EDIT: the 700 also had that CDI i think it is. i dont know what its called but its like 500 dollars and it gives the 700 so much life and power.

[rgasper33]

I would agree with that. The 700 and 525 are the closest to even that I have raced as well (prob besides the ktm, it would also be there obviously). Both very nice quads though. I am still not comfortable on the 700 though. I know it is def a better handler than the 660, but the size still feels big to me. But thats just all because of what I am used to.

[mattg324]

yea i have no idea what AM parts go on the 700 thats why i screwed up every mod hahha. how fast do you think the outlaw goes? my friend says his raptor goes like 78-80

[xrdrsux]

he can probably get 80 give or take a couple if he has a 15 or 16t front sprocket on there but with the 14 he isnt.
not sure about the top speed of the 525.
I dont really care for the light front end of quads that are held wide open for a period of time.
i like dragging in the 300-400ft area.

[mattg324]

yea i think he has a 15 tooth one. i wonder what could beat his s**t

[smokinwrench]

Originally posted by mattg324
yea i have no idea what AM parts go on the 700 thats why i screwed up every mod hahha. how fast do you think the outlaw goes? my friend says his raptor goes like 78-80

As a rule of thumb all the new quads go 71-73 with stock gearing. I read soemwhere on here that a 525 with a 15 tooth fornt sprocket will run in the 84 range. I have a 15 tooth on mine and I know I have power to pull a 16 tooth, I would have to remove the case saver to install it.

[rgasper33]

Originally posted by mattg324
yea i think he has a 15 tooth one. i wonder what could beat his s**t

Outlaw 525 or ktm. either one with a good rider I think could better the 700 stock for stock. Prob your buddys to in a 300-500 foot race, maybe not top end if he has a diff sprocket though.

[Alias99]

Hey guyz its time for me to get a new atv can you guyz help me out. Heres the original thread with the poll. Its between a 700 and 525 http://www.exriders.com/vbb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=339677

Thanks for any help

[xrdrsux]

nothing came up

[kamsvt]

I WAS DEAD EVAN IN A DRAG RACE WITH A 08 700R, FMF POWER BOMB , TWO BROTHERS CAN, POWER CAMANDER, AIR FILTER, SHORT SHIFTING MY STOCK 450 MXR WITH TH E AIR LID REMOVED ON THE ASPHAULT. AND ORDERED THE CT RACING EXHAUST TODAY SO ITS BYBYE CRAPTOR AND HERE I COME YFZ 450

[eerhard09]

I am pretty sure the Raptor is faster IN A STRAIGHT LINE than a YFZ, especially a raptor with the big three done to it. Now, if you are talking about a big bore YFZ, then it may be a different story. Either way, if you can hang with that raptor, there is no reason you cant beat a piped YFZ....

[xrdrsux]

you can put whatever pipe you want to on there and put what ever jet kit you want to and take 5 lids off if you had them but you still wont handle the 700 with PCIII, intake and exhaust. Not gonna happen. Those things are so restrictive from the factory but once you uncork it, they really come to life.
Now if you want to go big bore on them all they have to do is put a stock bore 11 or 12:1 piston and just a stage 2 cam as long as they have duals and you can still hang it up. Once you go over the 500ish mark with the big bore you may step the game up some. I know for a fact that 480 kits on TRXs wont cut it..not even close.

[dscb_81]

xrdrsux,

Thanks for letting these guys know how the 700r runs. I'm running dual exhaust on my 700 and I can't find an outlaw to race. I have a stock bore 11:1 piston and hotcams stage II cam sitting in my shed if I ever fill the need to install them and crush whatever outlaw I come across. Now the KTM 525 is what I would consider a race. :D

[rgasper33]

Originally posted by dscb_81
xrdrsux,

Thanks for letting these guys know how the 700r runs. I'm running dual exhaust on my 700 and I can't find an outlaw to race. I have a stock bore 11:1 piston and hotcams stage II cam sitting in my shed if I ever fill the need to install them and crush whatever outlaw I come across. Now the KTM 525 is what I would consider a race. :D

LOL. Ignorance anyone? Same motor buddy. And actually the Outlaw is quicker to the 660 ft, mark according to atv sport, than the rapyy or ktm. And also do you guys have any idea how lean the outlaws are stock???? Didnt think so. You guys can build up whatever you want, I know built quads are fast no matter what it is. But a raptor IS beatable.

[xrdrsux]

yea anything is beatable. There is always something out there that is bigger, stronger, uglier, faster, etc. That is just how it is. BUT i still believe that the 700 is the ultimate all around quad. I have not however had a chance to ride a 525 but i have talked to some ppl that own them. Some like it and some dont.

Hey dscb_81 are you gonna be able to make it to the Georgia Ride day on april 5th. There is gonna be a good bit of ppl there. www.durhamtown.com is the place..
And you have a PM also.

[dscb_81]

xrdrsux
i won't be able to make it down for that event. I'll be in the field training during that time frame. I really would like to check that place out, maybe we can come at a later date. My local dealer rides an outlaw525 and it kept cutting off the last time I rode with him. I mention the jetting being off and he said he would look into it.

rgaper33,

All atvsport had to do was start in 2nd gear on the raptor and it would have been bye-bye "RECALL KING" outlaw 525. I mean c'mon Polaris, first the outlaw goes up in flames and now the rearend locks up without warning. Its like you are buying a death ticket. You ride what you like and I love what I ride. Ride safe and check your rearend for loose bolts. :D :cool:

[rgasper33]

I would if I had an IRS ( I have an sra) ;) I agree with ride what you like. O ya polaris is not the only people with recalls. EVERY manufacturer has them, but nice attempt on hurting my feelings. I know the 700 is a nice quad, but you guys who ride them think they are unbeatable when they arent. I dont think people should rip on something that they never rode or been around. The only reason you bash is because it says polaris. Thats the past. I dont talk bad about your 700 just because the 660s were junk. Yamaha fixed them. Kudos to them and your 700.

[xrdrsux]

i actually like the 525 just from what i have seen of them. I have never got a chance to ride one but i have raced a few. I must say that they are pretty good competition. If i didnt like mine so much i would look into buying one as long as all the bugs were worked out.

[xrdrsux]

are you a member on www.raptorforum.com

[dscb_81]

Yes, I'm carolina_700r on raptorforum.com

[xrdrsux]

haha.. ok..

[bossman525]

Originally posted by dscb_81
xrdrsux
i won't be able to make it down for that event. I'll be in the field training during that time frame. I really would like to check that place out, maybe we can come at a later date. My local dealer rides an outlaw525 and it kept cutting off the last time I rode with him. I mention the jetting being off and he said he would look into it.

rgaper33,

All atvsport had to do was start in 2nd gear on the raptor and it would have been bye-bye "RECALL KING" outlaw 525. I mean c'mon Polaris, first the outlaw goes up in flames and now the rearend locks up without warning. Its like you are buying a death ticket. You ride what you like and I love what I ride. Ride safe and check your rearend for loose bolts. :D :cool:
got nothing better to do than be a ignorant troll

[dscb_81]

Bossman,
Little buckaroo, don't be so sensitive. I could see if I was posting lies about your outlaws. The fact of the matter is, Polaris has a history of recalls and nothing has changed with the new outlaw. Accept **** for what it is and man up to the facts. The raptor 700 is not the fastest quad out and I've been beat a few times by smaller quads. I don't think my 700 is the king of all quads, but I love it and wouldn't trade it for anything. What kind of man/bossman goes around insulting people over the internet. Geez:rolleyes:

[FReEK]

I raced a 700 Raptor SE todaywith my 450mxr. I was pretty suprised that the first two passes I smoked him by about 4 lengths. That was starting in first gear. the Next few passes we started in second. If he got the jump he beat me about two lengths and if I got the jump it was about 2 lengths. Both stock by the way.

Boy, he wasnt too happy.

[rgasper33]

Originally posted by dscb_81
Bossman,
Little buckaroo, don't be so sensitive. I could see if I was posting lies about your outlaws. The fact of the matter is, Polaris has a history of recalls and nothing has changed with the new outlaw. Accept **** for what it is and man up to the facts. The raptor 700 is not the fastest quad out and I've been beat a few times by smaller quads. I don't think my 700 is the king of all quads, but I love it and wouldn't trade it for anything. What kind of man/bossman goes around insulting people over the internet. Geez:rolleyes:

Yamaha never had a recall on anything. Weird. O ya and you never I checked that bolt on my quad for ya like you reccomended. I guess they just decided not to put one in mine!!! O ya I forgot sra!!!

[xrdrsux]

there was never a recall on the raptor. There was however a fuel pump issue with the first few that was made in 06. Smaller bleed valve that was causing it to vapor lock. .6 (.06) i think and it was supposed to be a .8 (.08)

[rundrave]

FYI

In February 2004, Yamaha announced a voluntary recall of Raptor YFM660R ATVs. Vibration from the engine and driveline during long periods of high rpm usage could cause the rear master cylinder reservoir to agitate resulting in brake fluid aeration. A small amount of air bubbles could enter the master cylinder adversely affecting rear brake performance.

see we can do it too....go back and play in the yamaha forum

oh wait I just got a wild hair...maybe because it will make me feel so good about my self and my quad I could go post this over in the yamaha section

cmon polaris guys...it would be so much fun.....

end sarcasm

[dscb_81]

OMG!!!!! Why are alot of you Polaris guys so sensitive about your outlaws? Us raptor riders don't go around acting like our quad is the "best quad" rolling nor do we act sensitive over facts. I was always told that the truth hurts so maybe thats what it is. Rundrave actually went and did some research on yamaha raptor recalls. Wow!!!!!! :D :) ;)

[rgasper33]

No man. A recal lis a recall. But you went on to basically say polaris guys need to accept that its s***, that sounds like a troll. So if all you wanna do is bag on polaris, then go back to the 700r forums.

[xrdrsux]

good find. I never was a fan of the 660 really. I did however look into the 700s when they came out. Hell i forgot about the 660. But as you can see with my above post i was refering to the 700s fuel pump.. i should had been more specific.

[rgasper33]

Ya. The 660 felt bulky and uncontrolable in my opinion. The 700 is much MUCH nicer. Like I said, kudos yammy