jpconard
01-16-2008, 10:23 PM
OK, I've read several threads here and one guy AlexanderJason has a pretty good handle on the jetting.
Here is what I don't understand...07 runs lean. This has been confirmed by others and my plug is pretty white with a few dark shiny spots on it. Would Honda jet these so lean as to cause damage?
I cleaned out the carb, since 07 it may have had gas sit in it for awhile. That may have helped a little.
I see 07 has 42 pilot, 04 has 38. Yet at idle (where pilot is used), 07 runs lean 04 does not, that does not make sense. I even have K&N in the 04 (so it should get more air).
07 requires no throttle when choke on to start, 04 requires a little throttle (this makes sense smaller pilot plus it has k&n therefore requires a little throttle to compensate).
I noticed the "D" shaped fuel adjust, but I thought they just ground it off for emissions (no-tamper). Didn't know it was still adjustable. Guess I'll have to turn that out some to see if it helps.
Do the newer models make more power than previous models? I thought I noticed a higher number listed on the MCO for the 07 than the 04, I'll have to check it again. If they do, I'm not sure how (no motor changes that I know of, other than the clutch).
Also anybody tried to retrofit a sport clutch on the older model? I was looking at Bike Bandit OEM micro film (online), and it appeared the 04 could lose a few parts for the threaded clutch adjuster (and some small parts internally), get the 07 cover, lever, cable holder, and maybe 1 new small part inside the clutch area. The rest inside looked the same. Then it would just be the lever change & clutch cable (parking brake cable would be the same). Also find a place to put the reverse engagement lever and maybe different cable for that. The most expensive part is the motor clutch cover $130. In total I would guess around $250 to make the change.
Here is what I don't understand...07 runs lean. This has been confirmed by others and my plug is pretty white with a few dark shiny spots on it. Would Honda jet these so lean as to cause damage?
I cleaned out the carb, since 07 it may have had gas sit in it for awhile. That may have helped a little.
I see 07 has 42 pilot, 04 has 38. Yet at idle (where pilot is used), 07 runs lean 04 does not, that does not make sense. I even have K&N in the 04 (so it should get more air).
07 requires no throttle when choke on to start, 04 requires a little throttle (this makes sense smaller pilot plus it has k&n therefore requires a little throttle to compensate).
I noticed the "D" shaped fuel adjust, but I thought they just ground it off for emissions (no-tamper). Didn't know it was still adjustable. Guess I'll have to turn that out some to see if it helps.
Do the newer models make more power than previous models? I thought I noticed a higher number listed on the MCO for the 07 than the 04, I'll have to check it again. If they do, I'm not sure how (no motor changes that I know of, other than the clutch).
Also anybody tried to retrofit a sport clutch on the older model? I was looking at Bike Bandit OEM micro film (online), and it appeared the 04 could lose a few parts for the threaded clutch adjuster (and some small parts internally), get the 07 cover, lever, cable holder, and maybe 1 new small part inside the clutch area. The rest inside looked the same. Then it would just be the lever change & clutch cable (parking brake cable would be the same). Also find a place to put the reverse engagement lever and maybe different cable for that. The most expensive part is the motor clutch cover $130. In total I would guess around $250 to make the change.