Sparks 416 National Kit

[QuadTrix6]

Im redoing my quad over the winter and im getting it ready for next race season. i wanted to know what you guys think of the curtis sparks 416 National kit. If i got this done and sent them my moter will there be a huge wait to get my motor back ? and how will this kit stack up against 265 R's and pc2000 r's?

[TT 400ex]

i was wondering the same thing how good is sparks 416 and how good is his 440 as far as the wait if you send it to him his next appointment opening is 2-1-03 i made my appointment last year in april and am getting it done in march can someone tell me how they like there sparks engine that you sent to him.thank you

[Dave400ex]

There's no doubt about the Motor being top notch, but you better get on that list. Plus that 416 kit isn't cheap.

[QuadTrix6]

how do i get on the list do i have to leave a deposit of pay in full or what ?

[TT 400ex]

no deposite just call and talk to scott he'll tell you when they have an opening

[Nausty]

quadtrix, i'm not trying to make you mad or push anything on you but if you mx, you should definitely get shocks before motor work.

I agree with nausty and yes the sparks national 416 kit will haul the friggen mail..

[QuadTrix6]

i know i know, im doing all my suspension first im getting some for christmas and im buying the rest on my own by january ill have elka triple rates with ssd. houser +2+0 a arms, l/s axle and prob an extended swing arm then the national kit i was just wondering how good it is and if i should get on the waiting list now....but thanks for all your opinions...

[Dave400ex]

There's no doubt about it being an awesome motor. If you have the 3 grand for it, do it. TC and Sparks have the best 416 kits out I think. You could also look into the TC. He may be shorter then Sparks on the wait, and cheaper. But that Sparks will haul, if you have the money and want it, call Sparks asap.

[Extremeracer167]

3k for a 416!!!!?????:huh :huh GOOD GOD i hope that was a mistake. Ide recommend a TC425, those things HAUL!! I love mine!

[Dave400ex]

Sparks X-6 $489
Sparks 36mm FCR $450
JE Piston Kit $189
Sparks Rev Box $115
Sparks Cam $199
Valve Springs $110
Port and Flow Head $375
Cylinder Boring $65
True and Weld Crank $45
Complete Motor Teardown and Rebuild $500

Now for Reliability,
Connecting Rod $239
Cam Chain $100
Clutch Kit $139
Hinson Basket $225

Everything listed is $3,240.

[400MXer]

those sparks 416's are bad, i've seen a few of them run...BUT i've also seen the PC2000 and many other powervalves run...and they put out a lot more power than the sparks 416. but that's the way it's gonna be with any AMA legal 400ex motor kit. I'm not sure about a 465 or even the 505ex like chad's got, that will pry be close...maybe.

[Extremeracer167]

god u can get a TC505 kit for that much money!!! his prices are rediculous!!!

I got most of that stuff done for my 425.
Port and flow head....$200
Piston Kit $120
Rev Box $80
TC Cam $200
Bore & Hone $45
TC Exhaust $325
Clutch kit $110
Basket $160
Gasket kit w/stainless head gasket $35
Labor......did myself
Carb $450

Total TC425 kit $1725
Sparks 416 kit $3240
Money u saved with TC $1515
Power differance, prob. not worth $1515
Go buy $1515 worth of suspension=faster then just an engine kit!
Thats the way i look at it!

have a good day!:D

[ChadEXer]

I agree with Extreme!!!Thats nearly exactly what my 505 cost me!! Sparks is a lot higher and he takes a lot longer but we all know his motors haul!! But if it was me Id be calling TC!!! TC is about 6 months out, actually it may be less than that now, im not sure!!

[Bean]

all comes down to how deep ur wallet can strech

[Dave400ex]

Yeah I would call TC and get the 416 kit like Chris has.

[Extremeracer167]

I mean it just seems to make sense. If u want power, why not get a 60-70 hp monster for 3k instead of something that prob. doesnt even put out 40hp? But like i said, ide get some DECENT motor work done, and go buy some shocks and parts to help in handling. U dont have to have a beast under u to win races. Look at Greg Trew runs a 425 kit. And keeps up with Chad Duvall on a monster 500 kit! And we all know Chad is one of the most talented riders out there. So i think that sais alot for Mr. Trew also!!

[Evan]

Hmm yep Sparks aint cheap, but he aint slow either.
Heres what I have so far
FCR39-$450
Cam-$375
Cam Chain-$100
Valve Springs-$100
Piston-$189(way overpriced)
Clutch kit $139
Total $980

I have dragged full TC416s with this setup and won.
But I have a friend with a TC cam and Lectron carb thats built by Legacy and its pretty fast, he beats me alot. Im close to him but not close enough. But like someone said, motor aint everything, this guy that beats me everytime in the holeshot, I almost beat him the last time we race, I was all over him but just couldnt find room to pass. Read my sig, work on being a better rider untill u cant go no faster without mods.

When I get done I will have
X-6 $520
Porting-$300-400
Built by Legacy-$300 or so