axle bearing carriers [Archive]

Blysster

11-11-2002, 10:24 PM

Well, it looks like I need a new axle bearing carrier...

Should I get another stock one or go for an aftermarket twin row carrier? And for those of you who have them is it worth the money? What is the chain adjuster on them like?

RiPPiNiTuP7

11-11-2002, 10:26 PM

Go with the RPM Tapered Carrier, best carrier money can buy IMO.

Blysster

11-11-2002, 10:28 PM

Originally posted by RiPPiNiTuP7
Go with the RPM Tapered Carrier, best carrier money can buy IMO.

Thanks,

does it come with the bearings in it? how much do they go for?

RiPPiNiTuP7

11-11-2002, 10:43 PM

Yes it comes with bearings, I believe they cost $249 but I could be mistaken...its worth it though. Here, this is off their site:

RPM as the originator of the tapered roller bearing system axle carrier, CNC machines each carrier from billet 6061 aluminum. By installing tapered roller bearings, that are load rated at 8000 lbs. of side load versus the stock single-row bearings that have a side load rating of 500 lbs., you get a bearing that is 16 times stronger than stock unit. This allows the carrier to spin your axle on the strongest bearings available, and our tapered bearings are serviceable, unlike regular ball bearings. Also, remember that this high-tech tapered bearing system is also used in our Cyclone wheel hubs.

DEAL

11-11-2002, 11:03 PM

OUCH!
How long did you ride that thing with bad bearings!?

Blysster

11-12-2002, 06:29 AM

By the time I noticed there was something wrong, I wrode about 30KM (to make it back home). It could have been damaged longer than that but I never noticed it.

I think I will try just replacing the seals and the bearings for now. I'm told it may hold anyway? If not, I'll get an RPM one after the holiday bills are payed off.

bakerboyz

11-12-2002, 07:02 AM

You can get bearing carriers on ebay for $120.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1872473856

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1872296396

smith

11-12-2002, 09:03 AM

FYI...buying a stock bearing carrier vs an aftermarket one will run you approx. the same cost unless you get decent deals on Honda parts. Go with the aftermarket one. (most brands are identical)

11-12-2002, 10:18 AM

et ya one from here.... http://www.meszmoto.com/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi

you will loose adjustment capabilities with a tapered carrirer over a dual row..

Blysster

11-12-2002, 10:48 AM

Originally posted by Rico
you will loose adjustment capabilities with a tapered carrirer over a dual row..

Thanks for the help everyone, it's apreciated!

pardon my ignorance but what do you mean by tapered ?

Texan32

11-12-2002, 11:10 AM

ever repacked/replaced front wheel bearings on a 2 wheel drive truck? Those are tapered bearings. The rollers are rod shaped. The bearings and races are seperable. The twin row uses strait bearings (for lack of "correct" terminology). These use ball bearings. The bearing is a single unit (not seperable). Also understand. The twin row means you actually have 4 bearings in there instead of 2 (like the stock carrier).

Hope that helps.

beerock

11-12-2002, 11:18 AM

rico is right, the tapered carrier might be better but you lose chain adjustment.
the double bearing carrier works just as well and cost alot less.

Herrmann motor sports sells them for 169

http://www.herrmannracing.com/

he does sell them on ebay and I believe they sell for $130 on ebay......

all the carriers are pretty much the same , it just depends on where you buy it.

some one in a old thread mentioned a rad carrier? that has a grease zerk on the side......

J25

11-13-2002, 02:24 PM

mine had looked like that and we took the grinder to it and it looks like new and works like new

Live2Ride300

11-13-2002, 02:36 PM

Why do tapered bearing carriers have less adjustment then dual row carriers?

phatswinn

11-13-2002, 05:08 PM

i like the sound of 16 times stronger

400MXer

11-13-2002, 06:12 PM

I did that to my stock carrier too. And then, i got a rpm twin row......i rode on it for a season, then took it apart and rebuilt it, then about a month or so later that one went bad too....i had a seal go bad. and it destroyed that too. So now i have a tapered carrier.

Blysster

11-13-2002, 07:07 PM

I think that if I do a little grinding/sanding on the left side it should hold.. what do you guys think??

Blysster

11-13-2002, 07:11 PM

better view of the bearing damage

400exNH

11-27-2002, 06:55 PM

Did you sand or buy an aftermarket? Curious as I'm doing mine this weekend.

Blysster

11-27-2002, 08:54 PM

I just sanded it down... It's been holding good so far.

jb400exxx

11-28-2002, 10:36 PM

get the hermann racing double row. it's cheap and good.

toby400ex

12-01-2002, 07:00 PM

is that the center tube that i see, i think it is supposed to move, it looks melted to me, at least yours didnt crack and crumble like mine did.:mad:

BadA$$440

12-02-2002, 02:16 PM

Ya, im going to be getting the Herman carrier to. Any body got good/bad reviews on it?

Fleshwound

12-02-2002, 02:38 PM

mine looked like that at one time too, we just took a dremel to it for a while then went up one size on the bearings.

Extremeracer167

12-02-2002, 02:47 PM

save the hassle, pull the 130 out of your pocket go buy a ready to install dual row carrier and be done with it. They are fully greasable, they will last longer then the stock, and alls u will have to do is slide it in

Blysster

12-02-2002, 03:33 PM

If mine wears out again or doesn't last I'll be getting an after market one that already has the bearings in it.

It's not worth the trouble of taking the old bearings out, grinding the carrier, putting new bearings in...

DEAL

12-25-2002, 11:47 AM

I'd hate to see what the bearings looked like haha

BadA$$440

12-25-2002, 12:37 PM

Originally posted by Extremeracer167
save the hassle, pull the 130 out of your pocket go buy a ready to install dual row carrier and be done with it. They are fully greasable, they will last longer then the stock, and alls u will have to do is slide it in

Who sells bearing carriers for only $130?

12-26-2002, 08:34 AM

burgard has them for that much or less...mines on it's way right now from them..:D

phatswinn

12-26-2002, 09:15 AM

rico,
whats the number for bulgard? i ve been puting off a new bearing carrier for awhile and need one cheap

Pappy

12-26-2002, 09:19 AM

1-888-771-8600 tell him pappy sent ya from exriders

ZRacer

12-26-2002, 11:21 AM

Burgard bearing carriers are great, I have been using them in my Z400(400EX Style) and they work great. You can't find a better carrier for the money!

Blysster

12-26-2002, 11:23 AM

Originally posted by FreeStylexrider
I'd hate to see what the bearings looked like haha

here's what was left of them, haha

QuadTrix6

12-26-2002, 11:27 AM

are there any advantages if you go aftermarket over stock ?

Pappy

12-26-2002, 11:30 AM

not sure on reasons other then the stock carrier is almost $200 without bearings and seals:huh

ZRacer

12-26-2002, 11:56 AM

Stock carrier are Cast and aftermarket are billet which is stronger and less likely to crack. I have seen several cracked stock carriers, but never an aftermarket one.

Also, stock are typically single row bearings and aftermarket are double row or taper, which allows them to last longer and take on more force.

12-26-2002, 12:00 PM

aftermarets also have grease zerks..which is a big plus...all around it's a better deal..I purposely trashed my stocker gettin it out of my swingarm just so I had to buy a new one..:D and for the price I got mine,,I'd have to be retarded not to get one..:eek: