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mx1791
12-17-2007, 01:31 PM
i dont kno if this has been posted already, but it looks sick. i guess the shocks are little pep pb1's? lol

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h125/cbasil_2006/IMG_6164.jpg

elementryder
12-17-2007, 01:45 PM
dude thats awesome
dosent look like an mx setup though thats what id like to see
and yes there little pep pb1

mx1791
12-17-2007, 01:51 PM
lonestar says there +3 +1 a arms, with a +5 axle.

Pappy
12-17-2007, 04:41 PM
I have those very arms and axle on order:D

Honda10
12-17-2007, 05:10 PM
that thing looks awsome, they need to make a rapotor 250 thread

TWISTED DINLI
12-22-2007, 03:06 PM
Originally posted by mx1791
i dont kno if this has been posted already, but it looks sick. i guess the shocks are little pep pb1's? lol

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h125/cbasil_2006/IMG_6164.jpg

that is SICK lookin!!!!:eek2:

mxslevnik69
12-23-2007, 01:42 PM
what size shocks are those?

Lonestar_R
12-30-2007, 10:57 AM
How wide do those arms and axle make that quad overall?

Man I really like the new 250...I wish my wife would step up to a manual clutch

bradley300
12-30-2007, 05:09 PM
they should be +3

Lonestar_R
12-30-2007, 06:09 PM
yeah I know they are +3's but what does the quad end up overall

2muchquad
01-01-2008, 06:53 PM
a 2 valve motor and the same raptor like plastic being passed down to all the models,get serious yamaha.i guess when its the only game in town class wise,it'll sell,smart move yamaha,why make it serious when it'll sell regardless.i guess there are suckers born every minute,smart yamaha.:ermm:

raptor684
01-02-2008, 01:49 PM
It is 42.1 at stock width so I assume 48.1 wide depending on what off set rims you use!

mxdad423
01-02-2008, 08:03 PM
Originally posted by 2muchquad
a 2 valve motor and the same raptor like plastic being passed down to all the models,get serious yamaha.i guess when its the only game in town class wise,it'll sell,smart move yamaha,why make it serious when it'll sell regardless.i guess there are suckers born every minute,smart yamaha.:ermm:


Guess you haven't rode one yet, stock to stock the one I bought my boy will demolish any 300ex or 400ex, say what you want but it's a fact and anybody that has rode one will agree with me.....

2muchquad
01-03-2008, 03:09 AM
Its still an outdated design,the only thing it has on the 300ex is a few pounds lighter,replace a 300ex steel swinger and its almost there,the 2 valve head will be the limiting factor when it comes time for making power,just like anything else,people may love them to death because they are"new" but they will show their weaknesses eventually.;)

Honda10
01-03-2008, 10:04 AM
Originally posted by mxdad423
Guess you haven't rode one yet, stock to stock the one I bought my boy will demolish any 300ex or 400ex, say what you want but it's a fact and anybody that has rode one will agree with me.....
Ok buddy guess you havent rode a 400ex, a raptor 250 will not demolish a 400ex. Ur crazy

bradley300
01-03-2008, 10:54 AM
Originally posted by mxdad423
Guess you haven't rode one yet, stock to stock the one I bought my boy will demolish any 300ex or 400ex, say what you want but it's a fact and anybody that has rode one will agree with me.....

i wont.

i own a raptor 250, 300ex and have plenty of time on a 400ex and your a little over zealous saying a raptor 250 will demolish any 400ex. demolish is also a strong one to use when comparing to a 300ex. equal or slightly better is more accurate

Honda10
01-03-2008, 01:06 PM
a raptor 250 is at at par with a 300ex, there is no possible way for a raptor 250 to beat a 400ex unless you bore and stroke it. even then it is a maybe.

mxdad423
01-03-2008, 01:43 PM
OK say what you want, as soon as I can locate the link, I will show you your wrong, they took a raptor 250 with the gytr pipe and the jet kit to a local proving grounds, it went up against the 300ex wich had no prayer, then they put them up against the 400ex's and I'm not saying that it smoked the 400 but it did beat it, this was in a drag.....I seen it with my own eyes, so say what you want I know what I seen.........I guess using the word demolish was meant for the 300, guess I should of specified that. I have never been impressed with the 400ex, The only 400 that I was impressed with was the Z400, way more advanced and alot better machine. The honda is way behind it time......Just my opinion.

Honda10
01-03-2008, 01:54 PM
Yea the 400ex probably only used its first three gears. to make it fair.

01-03-2008, 05:24 PM
Originally posted by mxdad423
OK say what you want, as soon as I can locate the link, I will show you your wrong, they took a raptor 250 with the gytr pipe and the jet kit to a local proving grounds, it went up against the 300ex wich had no prayer, then they put them up against the 400ex's and I'm not saying that it smoked the 400 but it did beat it, this was in a drag.....I seen it with my own eyes, so say what you want I know what I seen.........I guess using the word demolish was meant for the 300, guess I should of specified that. I have never been impressed with the 400ex, The only 400 that I was impressed with was the Z400, way more advanced and alot better machine. The honda is way behind it time......Just my opinion.

impossible and unthinkable. Maybe a raptor 250 frame with a banshee or street bike motor will win against a 400ex but sure as hell not a raptor 250. do you understand a stock 400ex in 3rd gear is almost a raptor 250's top speed? if that was ever true the 400ex rier must have been unexperienced, stalled at the launch had to start it again and then took off. Even then the 400ex will catch it.

2muchquad
01-03-2008, 05:29 PM
a raptor 250 has a detuned xt250 enduro motor...with 2 valves! If that was the case then a warrior with its 2 valves motor would be competitive with the 450s...not gonna happen...sorry.

Hondamaster5505
01-03-2008, 06:31 PM
Originally posted by FoxHondaRider
impossible and unthinkable. Maybe a raptor 250 frame with a banshee or street bike motor will win against a 400ex but sure as hell not a raptor 250. do you understand a stock 400ex in 3rd gear is almost a raptor 250's top speed? if that was ever true the 400ex rier must have been unexperienced, stalled at the launch had to start it again and then took off. Even then the 400ex will catch it.

your exagerating a lil, the rappy 250 has a higher top speed then 35-40:ermm:

But the 400ex will still smoke it.

The rappy 250 and 300ex are on par power-wise but the rappy handles so much better.

And to the guy that said the yammys are ugly and yamaha needs to step up.
WHAT!!:huh

The raptor line looks freakin sick!
The rappy 700 is the leader in big-bore
The yfz450 is still one of the leaders in racing
The rappy 250 is dominant in the 250 class
The grizzly 700 is the first with power-steering

The only one i dont really like in the line-up is the rappy 350:(
They need to bump it up to a four-valve 400cc to compete with the 400 class.

Pappy
01-04-2008, 07:12 AM
the power to weight ratio is enough to help the 250 hold its own, but with equal riders I would say the 400ex will pull ahead in an all out drag race.

ofcourse we dont drag race, and we havent had any issues with being out powered unless it was in a field section. Cody passed many a 450r in race conditions and when we get this one built, we will pass many more.

you can act childish about brand this and brand that, but come race day, either get on the line and prove YOURSELF, or sit online and run your chops.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2115/2153930344_ea33fff643_o.jpg

and as far as dependability, no issues that we couldnt have had with any other atv. 1 lost fender bolt in 45 hours, and we tossed a chain during a brutal race. the little raptor never missed a beat in one sloppy wet and muddy race in freezing temps....

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2288/2153153197_79fcce0081_o.jpg

Honda10
01-04-2008, 08:08 AM
Those are some super clear pictures.

m.h.s.c.#527
01-04-2008, 11:23 PM
Originally posted by mxdad423
OK say what you want, as soon as I can locate the link, I will show you your wrong, they took a raptor 250 with the gytr pipe and the jet kit to a local proving grounds, it went up against the 300ex wich had no prayer, then they put them up against the 400ex's and I'm not saying that it smoked the 400 but it did beat it, this was in a drag.....I seen it with my own eyes, so say what you want I know what I seen.........I guess using the word demolish was meant for the 300, guess I should of specified that. I have never been impressed with the 400ex, The only 400 that I was impressed with was the Z400, way more advanced and alot better machine. The honda is way behind it time......Just my opinion.

coming from an owner of a kasea talk about outdated

cosinostra
01-05-2008, 10:22 PM
I just came back from taking the kids riding, and I can tell you that this Raptor 250 has a chance against anything in the trails.

I bought this for my 15 year old daughter and we just got it broke in pretty good. I beat the hell out of it through some pretty nasty trails and I was very suprised at how quick it is in the trails. On long straights I found myself searching for a 6th gear. I ride a YFZ450 so that is understandable. I'm considering racing it in a couple of non points cross country races in the stock class just for fun.....

This thing is a blast and Yamaha has done an excellent job! I totally recommend this thing to anyone who is riding anything other than a 450! It's bad......

2muchquad
01-06-2008, 03:19 AM
People always seemed to be excited when something new comes out,its natural,i remember the z400 and cannondale etc were like "incredible"..:rolleyes:

bradley300
01-06-2008, 10:29 AM
Originally posted by 2muchquad
People always seemed to be excited when something new comes out,its natural,i remember the z400 and cannondale etc were like "incredible"..:rolleyes:

well the cannondale was and still is incredible, but i do remeber all the hype about the z400, turned out to be a slightly faster 400ex

2muchquad
01-06-2008, 02:28 PM
well the cannondale was and still is incredible


Yeah they were trick and ran great when they ran.A buuddy of mine bought one when they first came out,hard to start when cold,fuel pump,ignition failures,battery die for no known reason,a a bunch of other problems that happened to show themselves when he drove a couple hundred miles for a gncc:(

mxdad423
01-07-2008, 12:29 PM
Originally posted by m.h.s.c.#527
coming from an owner of a kasea talk about outdated

We still have the Kasea because that is what my son likes, He has been on the DRR and Apex and doesn't like either one, besides that neither of the above have anything we don't. We have the dual long travels with 14 1/2 Fox shocks and the long travel rear with a round housing swing arm that the others don't. yea ours wasn't stock like that but who wants stock garbage anyway. The stuff on our machine is well built and very reliable and doesn't have any problem getting away from the others........

kennerz
03-08-2008, 12:27 AM
I'm sorry I might have missed something - a 400ex is supposed to be fast?

I am not a Yamaha fan at all, but the Raptor 250 looks to be a absolutely great little bike. Time and Mods will tell how it stacks up against bigger machines.

It is unfair to compare a GTYR piped bike to something it's too mild; wait till they have a more agressive pipe,cam, port work, and maybe a 33FCR keihin. Then we'll see what this little bike is made of.

I think it will rule the roost until, and if Honda, and Suzuki release the rumored TRX250R, and the LTR250. If they are 4 valve engines with more suspension, I would think the Raptor is in trouble.

Till then it's a sweet little cheap bike.

wvspeedfreak
03-16-2008, 07:21 PM
There has been a need for a quad this physical size for a while.It looks to me as if it is a pefect size for kids coming off the mini quads and still aren't big enough to fit the 300ex.I think you will see the other manufacturers tapping into this market soon.

raptor684
03-17-2008, 11:52 AM
The way the economy is I dont see the other manufactures producing a stock 250 quad that will cost over $6000.00's cause the demand for this size quad is great but used more for pleasure than racing. Unless they release two versions dont think it will happen. I could see the reliability with the raptor motor lasting longer than a 250f motor, wich are prone to blowing up in the bikes a lot, then add 200 more pounds to it to pull around. I think I would stay with a raptor then rebuilding a real high performance four stroke motor every six months at around $3000.00. I think Yamaha nailed this right on the head, guess time will tell.

bradley300
03-17-2008, 11:58 AM
Originally posted by kennerz
I'm sorry I might have missed something - a 400ex is supposed to be fast?



lol, remember these 450's havent been out forever, the 400ex was one bad***** quad from late 98 to about 02