how much real power and real money?

[edub450]

Ok i was going home from my army drills this weekend and i seen a new atv shop. so i stopped in and asked him about some high performance parts such as: port and polished $250, web or hot cam kit for $250-$300, and he said he would look into a high compression piston for me. i am not familair with this parts for quads, are they good deals? Also is there other top end parts i can add on to those? what type of power will i get from these?

[KAWIRYDER]

They didn't add in labor cost to that unless you do it yourself. My local parts shop charges $50.00 per hour.

[rider250ex]

I would only get your head ported from someone who is known for doing good work...

im currently running baldwin and i would say look into them before anything. stage 3 cams, 14:1 high compression piston and port and polish will be plenttttyyy on power. as for port and polish there are very few people that know how to do it well, luckly i have a guy near me thats been doing it for 60 years 20 of which hes been retired and has been doing it as a hobby.

[edub450]

well of course i am going to look into what type of work he does before i sent my new bike to him. i know getting it done by a big name is better. what would a company like baldwin or another company like that cost? also will the tranny hold up?

[QUADROOKIE]

I would leave the motor alone-the mods you have and maybe a gearing change will give you more power than you can use unless you are strictly drag racing. Put all that money into your suspension and you will be able to use the power you have in the trails or track to go faster. JMO.

[INFAMOUSRACER7]

i would go suspension first, then go do your motor. but motor work is a must on the KFX if your going to do any kind of racing

[QUADROOKIE]

Originally posted by INFAMOUSRACER7
i would go suspension first, then go do your motor. but motor work is a must on the KFX if your going to do any kind of racing
Can you elaborate on why the Kaw needs motor work to race? It has just as much power with a pipe filter and PCIII as any of the other 450's if not more. Besides-the average racer cannot even use the stock power to it's fullest without a good suspension set-up. Unless you are lining up on pro-row you need absolutely no internal motor work on any of the 450's.

[edub450]

i am going to due my suspension first dont worry lol. i dont really what i am going to go with but i am going to do it, before the interals of the motor. i dont know weather to go with stock aarms and get my shocks redone, or go with some aftermarket aarms. i dont want something real wide i want like .75 or 1" wide. i do alot of trails, hill climbs and hare scrambles this year. suspension is this winter/spring project and motor interals are summer project i am just trying to figure out what is the best and what i should get. does anyone have lifetime warranty aarms?

[INFAMOUSRACER7]

about the motor, if you do any kind of district racing even if you ride Open b a 45 hp quad wont cut it. my 05 trx had close to 50 and i was workin hard on it to get around people on fast tracks. every body now has motor work done, so to be able to compete and do any good in anything besides c class you have to have a little motor work done.

[QUADROOKIE]

Originally posted by INFAMOUSRACER7
about the motor, if you do any kind of district racing even if you ride Open b a 45 hp quad wont cut it. my 05 trx had close to 50 and i was workin hard on it to get around people on fast tracks. every body now has motor work done, so to be able to compete and do any good in anything besides c class you have to have a little motor work done.
I will agree to a point-if you are strictly talking MX. But the original poster I believe will do no more than trailriding and the occasional XC race. So with that being said, I stand by my statement that stock motor is more than enough power, and good suspension will allow him all the speed he can handle.

[INFAMOUSRACER7]

i will agree with you on the XC racing. Most of the bikes we have running XC that come through JH racing only have a cam and that is more then enough for them. But for mx you do need motorwork. For any racing you need suspension weather its stock revalves or an LT set up

[kfxrules]

i don't agree at all with any of the motor comments on the b or c class mx ridin... my bike was stock with break in oil the weekend i got it.. so i figured what the hell i will ride it.. turns out the first heat i took hole shot. and rode hard with stock bike and finished 3rd overall and i am talkin honda's and yama's built out the a**.. cams, heads, pistons, the works i am sure and the kawi dominated in a well rounded and designed bike and money well spent and power were it was needed

[INFAMOUSRACER7]

not bashing you or anything but if a built honda with even a half way decent rider cant keep with a stock bike then you must be riding with some slow people. Because if your sayin that you were racing against people with pretty much a built motor i.e head work, piston, cam, and pipe and your were on a stock KFX450 then they should have drove right by you on the start and on straights because the Kawasaki lacks very much up top, even a built kawi lacks a decent amount of pull up top compaired to a honda of equal build.

[bustedknuckle]

not trying to start a fight.we race two xc series.all we did was power comander.pipe air filter.no motor work... we put out around 46 hp.with this.if your just woods riding.id spend you money with thease mods.then put it in shocks.thats where you will see the most help...we ran stock arms the kawi is just right for the woods thats what the bike was built for...just our thoughts...

[INFAMOUSRACER7]

i agree with bustedknuckle on that but only if your racing xc my whole point is based on mx racing not just riding on a track but racing. you dont need much for xc pipe filter and an fi programmer and your set.

[kfxrules]

well i always get that reaction but the riders that came up and checked the bike out after the heats was kinda down and out too.. but we had a flat track yfz built for speed and i was runnin him down out of the hole... but i guess it's all a matter of what you want to believe.

[bustedknuckle]

well if your mx ing it try hetrick racing.com they helped us they also build great mx motors.talk to rich he will steare you the right way.theve put together a kawi sponcered team for this comming year...