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Rusty91o
12-09-2007, 11:15 PM
I went to my local dealer, Willows Kawasaki recently and saw they had been carrying an "offbrand" ATV & Dirt bike. I didn't think too much of it, but thought it was odd considering the dealership is well know and good. Which might mean the bikes were actually worth something. So I went on their website today just to see what they had in used inventory, and ended up looking at this "offbrand" since it was listed in the new vehicles section. And they have a 450!! It is a 449cc 5 speed, with REVERSE, and it doesn't look half bad. And it was priced at 5about $5,900 Has anyone else heard of this brand United Motors? I'm figuring they might actually be worth something then. I'll see if I can get a test ride on one or something.

Rusty91o
12-09-2007, 11:16 PM
Here are the sites for the Dealership, and for United Motors
http://www.willowsmotorsports.com/
http://www.umamerica.com/site/usa/atvs/features/features1.html#usa_atv1

It looks like its a good company. I hope I can find out, or see if anyone else knows anything about them.

ThePhantomRider
12-17-2007, 09:47 AM
ATV Action recently did a test on this quad and they said "Too much too soon"

They said the motor made real good power but the handling was horrible and made for a scary ride. Suspenion was marginal so in order to actually make it work at least as good as one of the major companies you'll need to find someone that can make new, adjustable suspension components, get new shocks and then go test till it gets acceptable, but by then you'd have probably been better off getting one of the big 7 450's.....

TPR

Rusty91o
12-18-2007, 09:50 PM
Thanks. Personally, I still would rather have a major name brand. But I just thought it was something to look into.

TWILES
12-31-2007, 01:03 PM
They've got some interesting stuff. The 650 Cruiser looks like something between and V-Rod and a M109. The 650 sportbike doesn't look bad either. The dry weight of the 200cc off-road bike is over 260 though :( . My 450 WR doesn't weigh that much.

Rusty91o
01-03-2008, 01:59 AM
I went about a month ago to take a look at their 200cc Bike and the dealership inventory. It looks really good though. I asked a knowledgeable employee about it and he says as far as he knows, there aren't any problems with the bikes. And that it is mostly just a bike for somebody that can't entirely afford a name brand. Though I think most of us would still prefer our Hondas, kawis, Zukes ETC over offbrands. But Whatever, they still seem like cool bikes.

jdm197
01-03-2008, 05:48 PM
i have the um mtx450r. its not that bad of a quad. the handling is not as bad as the mag makes it out to be. looks very similar to a suzuki ltz400. plus they come with a 3year warranty. also i am selling mine because i bought a outlaw 525. here are some pics of the um.
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w290/jdm1974/ktm005.jpg
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w290/jdm1974/ktm004.jpg
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w290/jdm1974/ktm003.jpg
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w290/jdm1974/ktm002.jpg
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w290/jdm1974/ktm001.jpg

250exkid
01-05-2008, 10:40 PM
is it faster then the honda 450r? cuz man if it is ill buy one and put better suspension and a pipe! i mean im diehard hondaa but man if it is

jdm197
01-06-2008, 07:33 AM
i dont think it is. because one down side is that it weighs about 100 lbs more than the other 450s

250exkid
01-06-2008, 12:30 PM
oh ok!

01-07-2008, 04:23 PM
r u stupid it wheighs like 10 lbs more than an ltr 450 the ltr is like 368 and this is 378:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

jdm197
01-07-2008, 07:23 PM
whats 378?

01-08-2008, 07:23 AM
the mtx 450

jdm197
01-08-2008, 02:55 PM
the info they have on umamerica is wrong.

01-08-2008, 03:42 PM
who says and i dont think that a quad like that wheighs 478 lbs just look at it it definatly doesnt wheigh more than the irs outlaw 500

jdm197
01-19-2008, 03:20 PM
the um web site says 378 lbs dry
the um manual says 485 lbs dry
atv action says 465 lbs dry
and i just weighed it with about a half tank of gas and i got 455 lbs. also u can tell it weighs more by just trying to lift the front or rear end up.

randyl@mschev.c
01-25-2008, 11:28 AM
A buddy bought his son one 3 weeks ago brought it to my house first time out rode about 10 minutes,quit running all together,carried it back and after two weeks more they decided that it was a stator[wont fire]they might have a 3 year warranty but I bet it will spend most of its time in the shop.....JUNK!

jdm197
01-25-2008, 04:05 PM
i have not had any problems with mine yet. they just should have put a little more r&d time to make it a little better.

icuucme37
03-03-2008, 10:17 PM
Here is the "ATV Action Dec 2007" review of this bike. I don't know anything about this bike, but this review may just open some eyes about "MIC" bikes. Take it that this is the only review I've personally seem of a "MIC" bike.

This is the same bike as the UM 450R


HYOSUNG TE450




We recently got our hands on a Hyosung TE450, which is a Taiwanese-built sport machine aimed at ATVs such as the YFZ450 and the TRX450R but priced like a Honda 400EX. While expectations were mixed, we took off to test our Hyosung without bias, because we encourage the development and release of new model machines from anyone willing to build them the right way.

WHAT IS A HYOSUNG?
Hyosung is a Taiwanese manufacturer that designs and builds motorcycles, ATV’s, and streetbikes, mostly for the European and Asian market. Their first venture into the sport ATV world yielded the TE450, a dual overhead cam, four-valve, four-stroke single with a five-speed manual transmission and chain drive. It has the makings of all the popular sport 450’s, with dual A-arms up front and a solid-axle swingarm in the rear. The machine looks the part, with sharp lines in the plastics and a double stacked headlight, a la LTZ400. It comes equipped with Kenda Dominator tires wrapped around aluminum wheels, with piggyback reservoir shocks all around. The machine also has reflectors, mirror mounts and a horn, because it’s street-legal in Europe! All these parts add weight and are unnecessary in the US market, but most are easily removable. It is cheaper than the J-models, coming in at $5999

HOW FAST IS IT?
Scary fast. Now this is a hard concept to explain. Compared to other 450 machines, it is similar in power. The thing that makes this machine scary is that the chassis cannot deal with the power. On top, there is a surge of power that breaks the wheels loose and rockets the TE forward like an unguided missile. And we mean unguided.

WHAT ABOUT THE HANDLING?
The steering geometry is odd, so handling is overly responsive and difficult to control. This is most likely due to poor shock dampening and a strange angle on the spindle. Over every bump, the steering jerks you around violently. We would like to install a steering dampener to see if it would make riding the machine more enjoyable, but aftermarket shocks are in order, also. We attempted to adjust our shocks to slow the rebound, but they still felt like pogo sticks.

IS IT COMPETIVE WITH THE BIG-NAME 450S?
Not in stock form. We’re sure that a good set of shocks and wider A-arms with revised geometry would make this thing a blast to ride. It is built a little heavy, though, and you can tell just by looking at it. The rear axle carrier is about the size of a football, and the nuts on the axle look like they came right off the Titanic. With a few adjustments in the next model year, this could be a contender. But in its current form, it’s not.
IS IT A JUMPER?
It depends on how gutsy you are. Even over small square-edged bumps, the rear end kicks up uncontrollably, and it’s all over the place in the whoops. Jumping even small amounts causes harsh landings and a lot of bouncing, and we’re not too sure how strong the footpegs are, either.

WHAT ABOUT POWERSLIDES?
Again, the handling of the machine holds it back here. It’s got tons of power to slide, but you have to keep the motor revved to use it. It will powerslide and blow poofy berms into next week, but it’s like piloting a B52 bomber; it takes some training. The back end tends to come around very easily, especially under full throttle.

HOW’S THE SUSPENSION?
Deceiving. The suspension looks like the high-tech shocks you’ll find on any modern sport 450, but they don’t work exceptionally well. There is a lack of damping that makes the shocks very springy, and you can feel it even by standing on the machine while it’s parked and rocking back and forth. You can hear the pistons in the front shocks slapping their travel limit! With as much power as this machine makes (Hyosung claims about 51 horsepower), it needs revised suspension.

WHAT ABOUT TRAIL COMFORT?
Surprisingly, the seat and handlebars are fairly comfortable. Some of our testers complained about the small parking brake lever getting in the way of the clutch, but the adjustable front brake lever and reverse are welcome features. The Hyosung has a lighted display, but ours showed a low gas light no matter how much gas was in the tank. Also, the gas cap doesn’t stay tight, and it skips threads, almost like the tank and the cap have two different thread sizes. Gas leaks through the threads on the cap all over the gas tank while you’re riding, which is dangerous.

HOW ABOUT THE BRAKES?
The brakes are sweet. The rear disc is so large that there’s a rumor that Hyosung lifted it from one of their streetbikes! Nevertheless, it provides great stopping power. It is, however, very vulnerable, and heavy to boot. The front brakes have a nice progressive feel, and the adjustable brake lever fits any hand size.

WHAT’S OUR FINAL ANSWER?
The TE450 feels like a machine that was rushed onto market without enough R&D. Hyosung has a great concept, but there are many flaws that make it difficult to ride. Also, the fact that the gas leaks out of the tank is very dangerous, and could start a fire on the trail. All in all, Hyosung needs to make some adjustments before the TE450 is ready to take on the bigger manufacturers.