Help ordering my truck stereo

[Kickstarts-suck]

Ok Im going to order my Xmas present (stereo for my new truck) and need to make sure I get everything I need and make sure its the best for the money.

Its going to be for an 86 F150 reg cab
I want 1 kicker CVR12 and maybe some door speakers (has some JL 6.5s now)

What is a good amp for the money and to power everything good? What wiring will I need and anything else that I will need.

Ill probably be installing it myself and Ive never done one before.
Will my alpine deck work?
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/622/dsc01049jc9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Also where would be a good place to buy this stuff from with good prices?

Thanks in advance

[hardtrailz400]

Check crutchfield.com they have decent prices and cheap shipping and they send you diagrams of how to everything up properly. They will have explanations that are easy to follow on the website. It will show what you need as well.

The alpine should be fine for what you are doing. The 6.5 should be good if they sound OK. They are pretty decent speakers.

[Kickstarts-suck]

Originally posted by hardtrailz400
Check crutchfield.com they have decent prices and cheap shipping and they send you diagrams of how to everything up properly. They will have explanations that are easy to follow on the website. It will show what you need as well.

The alpine should be fine for what you are doing. The 6.5 should be good if they sound OK. They are pretty decent speakers.

Ok thanks

The speakers have alot of excursion and hit on the door panel alittle. I pulled the panels off and got the speakers to fit alittle better but it still hits the panel if you turn up the stereo pretty good. Other then that they sounds pretty good.

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This video was before I pushed the speakers in more

[trxwannbe]

the speakers sound pretty goof you should be able to run those off a 4 channel which will be great for the door speakers but not so great for the sub your best bet is a decent 4 channel for the speakers and a good mono for the sub and you will great sound and volume out of the speakers and a nice hard hit from the sub especially with it being a kicker cvr although i think i would of gone with a rockford p2 or p3

[trxwannbe]

oh yeah i almost forgot definitely don't get a p3 for the truck thats a cracked window waiting to happen and the box probably wouldn't fit they need something like 3 cubic feet for one 12 its pretty ridiculous

[Kickstarts-suck]

I don't need extreme bass thats why I want the CVR12. Its going to be in a reg cab truck so the CVR12 will be plenty.

So what amp would you recommend for it?

I don't know anything about amps...:ermm:

what does 4 channel mean?

[trxwannbe]

the basic idea behind an amp is to take a low level signal and make it a high one to drive the speakers. a channel is basically a power outlet from your amp. each one is capable of driving a different speaker. 4 channel is prime for speakers and you will need at least a 2 to run speakers off of it and the mono is good for subs because it focuses its power to one place allowing you to get a harder hit with much better sound quality, so you will lose some of the distortion that usually comes along with such a hard hit

[trxwannbe]

and i don't really want to look up the numbers so what is the peak power and what not for the cvr 12. i can reccomend a much better amp with these numbers in front of me

[wckedclownz69]

i wanna get 4 12s in the doors and 2 in the back wht size amp would i need... and how fast will a window blow

[Kickstarts-suck]

ok so how many channel will I need to power 1 CVR12 and 2 door speakers?

The kicker CVR12 is 400 watts RMS 800 watts peak power

Also should I get 2 Ohm or 4?

don't know what 2/4 Ohm even means :p

[trxwannbe]

you should be able to run that off of a 2 channel 400 watt with no issues so look into that for an amp i would reccomend rockford fosgate they are my favorite company by far when it comes to thing with that. your gonna want a decent amp because you don't want to run into issues with your frequency response because if the amp's frequency response is to low then the sub will shutoff when you hit a certain volume because you'll be overloading the amp and a 2 ohm would be a better choice than the 4 ohm

[Kickstarts-suck]

ok here is what I have so far

http://cgi.ebay.com/Rockford-Fosgate-Punch-500W-P5002-Car-Amplifier-2ch-Amp_W0QQitemZ320191582561QQihZ011QQcategoryZ39732Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&sspagename=STRK%3AMEBTOX%3AIT&viewitem=&item=230198672256&_trksid=p3984.cTODAY.m238.lVI
http://cgi.ebay.com/KICKER-COMP-VR-12-800w-CAR-AUDIO-SUBWOOFER-SUB-COMPVR_W0QQitemZ280180250679QQihZ018QQcategoryZ188 03QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Ill keep my current JL speakers. Now I need wiring and thats it?

What wiring should I get?
Could you find it on ebay for me?

[trxwannbe]

thats pretty good but try to find a dual voice coil 2 ohm sub it will sound way better and shouldn't be to much more expensive.

[Kickstarts-suck]

Originally posted by trxwannbe
thats pretty good but try to find a dual voice coil 2 ohm sub it will sound way better and shouldn't be to much more expensive.

yea I forgot to change that.

http://cgi.ebay.com/KICKER-COMP-VR-12-800w-CAR-AUDIO-SUBWOOFER-SUB-COMPVR_W0QQitemZ280180250679QQihZ018QQcategoryZ188 03QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[trxwannbe]

another thing to look into is maybe changing to a rockford fosgate p2 12 instead of the kicker cvr it just as hard and in my opinion sounds better

the punch p2 (this is not all it can do i couldn't find a video that did it justice so i posted this one)
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or if your lookin for something that hits really hard go with a p3
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[Kickstarts-suck]

Originally posted by trxwannbe
another thing to look into is maybe changing to a rockford fosgate p2 12 instead of the kicker cvr it just as hard and in my opinion sounds better

the punch p2 (this is not all it can do i couldn't find a video that did it justice so i posted this one)


I would like a rockford fosgate but they are more expensive and lower watt.

I don't need to much bass, The whole truck would rattle apart lol

My mom said she went to best buy and they didn't say good things about rockford fosgate.

[trxwannbe]

dude your best buy sucks then just about every best buy i've ever heard of will tell you that rockford is the best that they carry by far and that its quality stuff. i'm interested to hear why they said it wasn't good?

[Kickstarts-suck]

Originally posted by trxwannbe
dude your best buy sucks then just about every best buy i've ever heard of will tell you that rockford is the best that they carry by far and that its quality stuff. i'm interested to hear why they said it wasn't good?

I wasnt there so I cant tell you. My mom was looking for a stereo for my brothers truck and I told here to look into rockford fosgate and she asked they about it and they said stay away from them :ermm:

Ok I found a good deal on a Rockford fosgate P2 for $65 shipped so If I can use the same amp I will get it.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=120191148468&_trksid=p3984.cWAT.m240.lVI

[i30nes]

Originally posted by Kickstarts-suck
My mom said she went to best buy and they didn't say good things about rockford fosgate. [/B]

Kinda odd for a place that carries it to not recommend it... One of the best bangs for the buck really if you want stuff bought from a store. Had an old rockford 500w amp that used to push 2 mtx 12" 4000 subs. Yea I know not the greatest setup in the world, but hit pretty good. Now I am currently running an Orion H10.2 subwoofer and Orion 1200D amp. For a single 10 in a ported box it sounds better than some setups my friends have had. But back on track I would have to go with the Rockfords for overall... But then again its either bout power or quality... But heres what I have setup in the back of a Cherokee..
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[Kickstarts-suck]

Originally posted by i30nes
Kinda odd for a place that carries it to not recommend it... One of the best bangs for the buck really if you want stuff bought from a store. Had an old rockford 500w amp that used to push 2 mtx 12" 4000 subs. Yea I know not the greatest setup in the world, but hit pretty good. Now I am currently running an Orion H10.2 subwoofer and Orion 1200D amp. For a single 10 in a ported box it sounds better than some setups my friends have had. But back on track I would have to go with the Rockfords for overall... But then again its either bout power or quality... But heres what I have setup in the back of a Cherokee..
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Yea when my mom told me they said that I said "they dont know what they are talking about" and my mom said they install alot of stereo and I think they know their stuff. Whatever...

I just noticed on that RF12 that I posted that it is only a "Single Voice Coil 400W SUBWOOFER" "# Max Power Handling : 400W
# RMS Power Handling : 200W "

So I dont think the amp will work with it. Are all the RF 12s 200 RMS watt? seems kinda low to me but then again I don't know much about stereos. I do like the price of the one I posted though.:p

[trxwannbe]

you should be able to find a dual voice coil 400w rockford if not i'll look around and see what i come up with for prices

[Kickstarts-suck]

Originally posted by trxwannbe
you should be able to find a dual voice coil 400w rockford if not i'll look around and see what i come up with for prices

ok thank you.

So if I can find a dual coil RF P2 it will work with the amp I posted even though the RF is only 200 RMS?

edit:
The RFs are longer then the CVR12s and the CVRs just barely fit in the box I would need :(

[trxwannbe]

well then stick with the cvr its still good quality and you know you can find one for a good price and it should slam in a single cab

[Kickstarts-suck]

Originally posted by trxwannbe
well then stick with the cvr its still good quality and you know you can find one for a good price and it should slam in a single cab

ok thanks for your help :)

[mineralgrey01gt]

i have the same set up you want to go with besides the JL door speakers. I have a kicker comp cvr 12" sub with a kicker 1200/1 amp. Its way too much amp for that single 12" sub but man does it hit hard for 1 12" sub. I have an alpine h/u also, works and sounds great

also get the sub and amp off of ebay. Check out www.audiosavings.com ive bought numerous things from them and they all have been exactly what i ordered and it great quality. I went through ebay with them to get it. I bought an audiobahn sub from them for $116 shipped. I think the CVR's go for $70 shipped or something like that


also stay away from Rockford amps. I have a punch 700s that I just fried for the 6th time. I may fix it one more time and give it to my brother. Before anyone says its the wiring and all this bs, its not. Ive been installing systems for a very long time and I triple check all my wires before i hook anything up. The mother boards in the amps suck bad

[Kickstarts-suck]

Originally posted by mineralgrey01gt
i have the same set up you want to go with besides the JL door speakers. I have a kicker comp cvr 12" sub with a kicker 1200/1 amp. Its way too much amp for that single 12" sub but man does it hit hard for 1 12" sub. I have an alpine h/u also, works and sounds great

also get the sub and amp off of ebay. Check out www.audiosavings.com ive bought numerous things from them and they all have been exactly what i ordered and it great quality. I went through ebay with them to get it. I bought an audiobahn sub from them for $116 shipped. I think the CVR's go for $70 shipped or something like that


also stay away from Rockford amps. I have a punch 700s that I just fried for the 6th time. I may fix it one more time and give it to my brother. Before anyone says its the wiring and all this bs, its not. Ive been installing systems for a very long time and I triple check all my wires before i hook anything up. The mother boards in the amps suck bad

ok thanks. What amp would you recommend for my setup?

edit: just looked up my door speakers and they are $150 new :eek2:. I thought they were cheap POS speakers


If you could link me to everything I need from audiosavings.com I will love you forever:D

[Slinky]

ok here it goes....

first off what kind of music do you listen to?
Rap - the 12 will be great
Rock - look into a 10 for a quicker kick
country - same as above
opra - drive off a cliff

now look at what you allready have....
alpine deck...great! but whats the model #? how many pre-outs does it have? does it have a sub out w/ sub volume control?
JL speakers.... what model? i take it they are coax? do they have a fixed or pivoting tweeter? If they have a pivoting tweeter it will help tons with seting up your sound stage....

now find what you want....
from the looks of it your dead set on the kicker...now reading about this sub looks like its a dual 2 ohm sub..this means you can run it 1 of 3 ways...
1- is in 4 ohm mono....this would be paralleling the 2 voice coils to bring the sub up to a 4 ohm load...this will give you less power output from your amp, but the amp will run cooler and cleaner with less chance of a meltdown.

2- is to do a 1 ohm mono - this is wiring the 2 voice coils in series wich then drops the woofer down to a 1 ohm load...now this will get a lot of power out of your amp but only certain amps (mosly mono blocks) are designed to run at this low of an impedence.

3- is to run 2 ohm stereo...which will run each voice coil off its on channel on a 2 channel amp, which unless the channels on the amp are perfectly matched, good luck...this would not be my recomendation.

Now find an amp....

your going to want an amp with built in cross overs and caple of working with your sub. I would recomend two smaller amps... a nice two channel and a mono block....

if you wanna go with rockford...
maybe this for your fronts
http://cgi.ebay.com/ROCKFORD-FOSGATE-P5002-PUNCH-2CH-500W-AMPLIFIER-AMP-NEW_W0QQitemZ120191152976QQihZ002QQcategoryZ39732Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

and this for your sub...its bridgeable down to 1 ohm mono.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ROCKFORD-FOSGATE-900-WATT-MONO-PUNCH-AMPLIFIER-NEW-2005_W0QQitemZ250194539046QQihZ015QQcategoryZ64570 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

i also wouldnt recomend buying off ebay unless its brand new in box from a rockford dealer! If it isnt from a rockford dealer the warrenty will most likely be voided....your best bet is to find a stereo shop in your area and go talk to them. Let them know your budget and what you want to do. If they are a good shop they will lead you in the right direction, thats what i didn when i got into car audio about 11 years ago!

[Kickstarts-suck]

I listen to alot of different music. Rock/Hard rock and rap. Mostly rock for now because rap doesn't sounds so great on my stereo I have now. once I get the stereo on my truck I will listen to mostly rap.

I dont have to buy everything from ebay I just like their prices. Audiosavings.com looks like a great/cheap place.

I have no idea about the alpine deck. But I do know the speakers are JL TR650 cxi

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/1058/dsc01081jm2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

My budget is $300 for an amp/sub/box/wiring/whatever else I might need.

I dont care what brand anything is as long as its cheap and a good product. I chose the kicker CVR12 because its cheap and heard good things about them.

Are you saying Im going to need 2 amps to run my front speakers and the cvr12?

Currently I don't have an amp and my speakers work :confused:

Ill go try to get some info on the Alpine.

[Slinky]

let me know the model # on the alpine and i can figure out what it does...

as for needing an amp for the fronts, definately not. I was under the impression you were looking for that. Your fronts can un fine off the deck, i'd just find out if there is a way to put a cross over on them so they arent playing the bass notes, pretty much anyhting below 90hz...leave that for the sub. It will keep the fronts from distorting.

those TR's are a great set of speakers....well any JL is a great speaker....i run JL subs in everything i own.

i also had posted up about the wiring, but that got deleted...find a decent install kit from either best buy or even walmart. Make sure your power wire is fused at the batter and you have a good ground coming from the amp to some point on the truck, keep your ground wire as short as you can. Also the heavier guage speaker wire you can use for the sub, the better

[trxwannbe]

lol i gotta post up some pics and maybe a vid when i get home because we threw a wal-mart set up in a beater car and right now the car is at $320 between the car and the stereo setup and it actually sounds decent and trust we beat the crap out of this thing

[Slinky]

Originally posted by trxwannbe
lol i gotta post up some pics and maybe a vid when i get home because we threw a wal-mart set up in a beater car and right now the car is at $320 between the car and the stereo setup and it actually sounds decent and trust we beat the crap out of this thing
alot of it in car audio isnt only the equipment, but also about how its setup....i've thrown some bottom dollar speakers in cars with just the right amout of power to them and x-over so they werent getting over worked and they sounded great for what they were worth.

though you still get what you pay for.

[trxwannbe]

well i payed 300 for the car and it came with a deck and speakers but the front speakers were blown so i ran it off the backs for a while and today i was at wal-mart and they had a box for $20 with 2 6 and 1/2s in it and a couple of horn tweeters and all i did was run the wires that were supposed to hook to the front speakers to that box in the area above my rear seat (basically on top of my rear speakers) and it actually impressed with me the way it sounds. the touchier vocal songs are a little iffy from it but the few rock songs i played on it actually sound amazing

[250exkid]

didnt read posts but the best set up that me and my friends find to work is, alpine cd player. 12 inch MTX 8500 thunder. highfonics brutus 1600 watt amp. and a rockforfosgate capcitor, the best set up and man blaring country by me you can here it for a mile!!! its darn good if you can hear what i lisen to! country.... no rap crap..... good luck on ur xmas present

[250exkid]

p.s buy all from ebay,... and trust me if your gonna bash ebay i dont wanna here it im not a little rich kid so i cant go to best buy and spend 1,000$! ebay brand new with warrenties you might spend up to like 600$ give or take...

[Slinky]

Originally posted by 250exkid
p.s buy all from ebay,... and trust me if your gonna bash ebay i dont wanna here it im not a little rich kid so i cant go to best buy and spend 1,000$! ebay brand new with warrenties you might spend up to like 600$ give or take...

you have to be careful with ebay, even though some say there are warrenties, if you tell the manufacturer that you bought it off of ebay a lot of times they wont go good for the warrenty

[Shift_450R]

Sorry to hijack your thread but im a situation similar in this diagram i want to hook up two subs to a mono amp @ 2 ohms. And it says the green is a bridged wire....wtf is a bridged wire?

[exrider49]

if i were you i would go with the kicker i got a l7 15" with a kicker 750 watt rms amp and it slams hard.... try www.cardiscountstereos.com they got really good prices but sum stuff is not name brand

[ny300exrider]

Originally posted by Shift_450R
Sorry to hijack your thread but im a situation similar in this diagram i want to hook up two subs to a mono amp @ 2 ohms. And it says the green is a bridged wire....wtf is a bridged wire?

regular peice of speaker wire

[Kickstarts-suck]

Ok sorry I ended up leaving yesterday and when I got back I was busy.

I pulled the alpine out and there are some pics.
http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/8674/dsc01107ml0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/8456/dsc01108yf1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/1075/dsc01112bs1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Couldn't find a model # :ermm:

Also what amp now? Ill keep the speakers how they are now running off the head unit. Should I go with the Rockford Fosgate p5002? I see it says 500 RMS and the sub says 400 RMS is that ok??
http://www.audiosavings.com/product_details.aspx?item_guid=177fe2fa-16ee-42a1-a736-72bce126957a&category_guid=331315fc-89b5-45e0-8d73-dbafea691338
So the wiring should be easy just wiring in 1 sub to the amp.

Good wiring kit?
http://www.audiosavings.com/product_details.aspx?item_guid=3c297b65-be80-42b5-b854-ac1db7595212&category_guid=74ec5285-bbf1-46df-9b9c-5c4a565861a3

Ill be buying everything from audiosavings.com except the box(ebay).

[cbrooks118]

Just reading through here.... Your putting nice tunes in a $300 car? I was going to make fun of you, but then i wasn thinking that i would probably do the same, i gotta have tunes when i drive. As to all the other post heres my opinion:

Fosgate subs=pretty good for a pretty good price
alpine=my favorite head unit
kicker= nice subs, except the l7's, they just dont sound right to me for some reason
jbl=not so hot
JL= some of the best, if you have enough power and air space for them

I had a similar stereo build in the mid 1990's on one of my first trucks. It was a ford single cab. I had 2 RF punchdd2 (is that right) 12's powered by a 800w max, probably around 400 rms RF amp. The subs needed more airspace than my cab had room to give. They sounded ok, but i hated that i couldnt adjust my seat + i listened to rock so i wasnt using them to full potential. As for my doors, I had infinities. They rocked. They were your standard 3 ways, and i had them hooked to a 200w alpine V power amp (if i remember the model numbers correctly.)

Sold those to a friend who put the same 12's and amp in his expolorer with a ported box and they hit 5x harder. Airspace is king......Then i went with MTX bluethunder 10's---they hit harder, and needed less space, i had that in it until i sold the truck

The next vehicle I owned was a jeep grand cherokee. I had alpine head unit, PPI multi channel amp 400w running alpine type S doors (5/14 3 ways) and a PPI mono amp (100w) running 2 Kicker Comp VR 12's--- those would rattle awnings at drive in resturaunts.. then i sold them and put some JL 12 ws7(?) in there and they rocked just as hard, and imo a little cleaner bass...

Now years later, i put some nice tunes in my 04 ford supercrew. I went memphis all the way around. I have all four doors with 5x7 3 ways hooked to a 4 channel memphis 600w amp. and two memphis 10's hooked to a 1000w mono memphis amp. This thing is all hooked to an Kenwood deck ( it was nice and on sale you know)....It rocks if i want it too, however in my old age most days the sub preamp output is turned off and the siruis is on the radio disney channel for the kids (How did i get so old already?)

What does all this rambling mean?
Honestly, you buy any quality sub (stay away from rip off best buy) from a audio dealer (you can get last years models for 1/2 price all day long)and have the reccomended power (RMS) and the right airspace that they require, they will sound good... Once you get into stereo equipment, you will switching/buying/selling/ all the time, it's like quads, you have some for a while, put parts on em, sell em, buy a different one, put parts on , sell it, its the nature of a man....

[Kickstarts-suck]

All this stuff I want is going into my 86 F150 reg cab. Not a $300 car.

I will have to pull my seat up about 2 inches for the box to fit in the back but thats the only way to get everything to work.

The box dimensions are Height 15" x Length 19" x Top Depth 7" x Bottom Depth 8"
The 7" top depth is what makes me have to pull the seat up the bottom is fine.
Speaker Mounting Depth is 6 5/8" and the CVR12s are 6 5/16"

[Slinky]

Originally posted by Kickstarts-suck
All this stuff I want is going into my 86 F150 reg cab. Not a $300 car.

I will have to pull my seat up about 2 inches for the box to fit in the back but thats the only way to get everything to work.

The box dimensions are Height 15" x Length 19" x Top Depth 7" x Bottom Depth 8"
The 7" top depth is what makes me have to pull the seat up the bottom is fine.
Speaker Mounting Depth is 6 5/8" and the CVR12s are 6 5/16"

i think he was talking about the other guy with the $300 car....


your deck will work good...just hook the RCA's up to the rear/sub output. then there should be a setting on your deck to turn on the sub out. You'll be able to increase and decrease the volume of the sub from the deck.

as for the wiring and amp, if your using the amp just for that sub, and that sub is a dual 2 ohm, you'll want to find a different amp that supports a 1 ohm load. That will get you the best power. also use a mono amp, not the 2 channel amp.
for the wiring that 8 guage kit will work fine, but if you ever plan on expanding and adding another amp you'll have to take all the 8 guage out and run 4 guage, which i always find to be better off to do in the first place.

and so you know....stereo installs never stay on budget, its a given!

[i30nes]

On your alpine head unit is there like a metal sleeve that goes around the head unit? Cant remember the exact name of it but if there is the model number could be under that. But usually in my experience with alpines, the model number is on the front face plate. EX: CDE-9800

[Kickstarts-suck]

Originally posted by Slinky
i think he was talking about the other guy with the $300 car....


your deck will work good...just hook the RCA's up to the rear/sub output. then there should be a setting on your deck to turn on the sub out. You'll be able to increase and decrease the volume of the sub from the deck.

as for the wiring and amp, if your using the amp just for that sub, and that sub is a dual 2 ohm, you'll want to find a different amp that supports a 1 ohm load. That will get you the best power. also use a mono amp, not the 2 channel amp.
for the wiring that 8 guage kit will work fine, but if you ever plan on expanding and adding another amp you'll have to take all the 8 guage out and run 4 guage, which i always find to be better off to do in the first place.

and so you know....stereo installs never stay on budget, its a given!

ok so what amp should I get then?

sooo confused now :confused:

Will this amp work with the setup I want?
http://www.audiosavings.com/product_details.aspx?item_guid=55849728-0f8d-44e9-932e-17bcb3fa369a&category_guid=c7cc182e-4e63-431a-b7ea-dc3eada8200e

[mineralgrey01gt]

http://www.audiosavings.com/product_details.aspx?item_guid=0bdea4a9-510d-40d0-a630-5841fac2b7c9&category_guid=b65c1e6a-948e-432a-a804-7c13753066f9

^^^ theres the kicker subs

and the amp you posted up would work perfect with those kicker comp cvr 12's since the RMS rating for both sub and amp are the same. It will have a very good sound quality

[Slinky]

Originally posted by mineralgrey01gt
http://www.audiosavings.com/product_details.aspx?item_guid=0bdea4a9-510d-40d0-a630-5841fac2b7c9&category_guid=b65c1e6a-948e-432a-a804-7c13753066f9

^^^ theres the kicker subs

and the amp you posted up would work perfect with those kicker comp cvr 12's since the RMS rating for both sub and amp are the same. It will have a very good sound quality

It would work on the RMS ratings but for the ohm's his subs run it it would perform properly...

He's looking at a dual 2 ohm sub, that means he can run the sub bridged in either 1 ohm or 4 ohm....

that amp puts out its best power at 2 ohms and probably isnt stable down to 1 ohm... if he had 2 of those CVR12's he'd be perfect!

just re-read your post mineral....

and if he goes with the sub you posted, and the amp that he posted he will be fine. i was only finding dual 2ohm CVR12's before..i didnt know they made a dual 4 ohm.

[Kickstarts-suck]

Originally posted by mineralgrey01gt
http://www.audiosavings.com/product_details.aspx?item_guid=0bdea4a9-510d-40d0-a630-5841fac2b7c9&category_guid=b65c1e6a-948e-432a-a804-7c13753066f9

^^^ theres the kicker subs

and the amp you posted up would work perfect with those kicker comp cvr 12's since the RMS rating for both sub and amp are the same. It will have a very good sound quality

ok So this is my "shopping cart"
http://www.audiosavings.com/product_details.aspx?item_guid=0bdea4a9-510d-40d0-a630-5841fac2b7c9&category_guid=b65c1e6a-948e-432a-a804-7c13753066f9
http://www.audiosavings.com/product_details.aspx?item_guid=93d757c9-8259-4a9d-8e2a-626731166f79
http://www.audiosavings.com/product_details.aspx?item_guid=55849728-0f8d-44e9-932e-17bcb3fa369a&category_guid=c7cc182e-4e63-431a-b7ea-dc3eada8200e
All that is the correct stuff I need?

I already bought the box from ebay.

edit: so I need the 4 ohm or 2ohm?

I want to make sure everything is right before I order .

[Slinky]

Originally posted by Kickstarts-suck
ok So this is my "shopping cart"
http://www.audiosavings.com/product_details.aspx?item_guid=0bdea4a9-510d-40d0-a630-5841fac2b7c9&category_guid=b65c1e6a-948e-432a-a804-7c13753066f9
http://www.audiosavings.com/product_details.aspx?item_guid=93d757c9-8259-4a9d-8e2a-626731166f79
http://www.audiosavings.com/product_details.aspx?item_guid=55849728-0f8d-44e9-932e-17bcb3fa369a&category_guid=c7cc182e-4e63-431a-b7ea-dc3eada8200e
All that is the correct stuff I need?

I already bought the box from ebay.

edit: so I need the 4 ohm or 2ohm?

I want to make sure everything is right before I order .
4ohm
everything there looks good. You should be happy with it...the amp you should be able run with the gain almost off, this will let the amp give out its cleanest power.

[Kickstarts-suck]

Originally posted by Slinky
4ohm
everything there looks good. You should be happy with it...the amp you should be able run with the gain almost off, this will let the amp give out its cleanest power.

alll righty then!

Thanks everyone for all your help. Ill be ordering everything as soon as I can!

Ill probably make another thread needing help on how to wire it all... LMAO!

O and I found out my Alpine deck is CDM-7861

[i30nes]

Cool... Wiring isnt a big deal really... The worst for me was findin a spot to run the power wire from the battery back... And a decent ground. But after that was a cinch. Someone posted a link from rockford I believe on wiring diagrams. Use those... Or actually talk to the subwoofer manufacturer and see what they recommend in doing. They will be your best of resources :)

[Slinky]

here's a linke to the owners manual for your deck...

http://vault.alpine-usa.com/products/documents/OM_CDM-7861.PDF

you'll have to turn on the the subwoofer control when you hook up the rest of your stereo..it explains how to do it in here.

when its on and you start scrolling through your treble and bass functions a subwoofer level function will show and you'll be able to turn the sub up or down. Its really good for changing the sublevel depending on the music your listening to without adjusting the amp.

[Kickstarts-suck]

Originally posted by Slinky
here's a linke to the owners manual for your deck...

http://vault.alpine-usa.com/products/documents/OM_CDM-7861.PDF

you'll have to turn on the the subwoofer control when you hook up the rest of your stereo..it explains how to do it in here.

when its on and you start scrolling through your treble and bass functions a subwoofer level function will show and you'll be able to turn the sub up or down. Its really good for changing the sublevel depending on the music your listening to without adjusting the amp.

ahh sweet thanks!

[i30nes]

Originally posted by Slinky
here's a linke to the owners manual for your deck...

http://vault.alpine-usa.com/products/documents/OM_CDM-7861.PDF

you'll have to turn on the the subwoofer control when you hook up the rest of your stereo..it explains how to do it in here.

when its on and you start scrolling through your treble and bass functions a subwoofer level function will show and you'll be able to turn the sub up or down. Its really good for changing the sublevel depending on the music your listening to without adjusting the amp.

Good find... And when it comes to tuning the actual volumes and levels you need the right music... Dont assume to just use real heavy bass songs... find somethin with distinct bass hits. My personal favorite is using Guns N Roses - Paradise City due to the distinct bass hit. But also with that comes another issue.. Just because you have it tuned to sound good to one song doesnt mean the rest will sound perfect. So you gotta find that happy medium in your settings. Good luck with the install :macho

[Kickstarts-suck]

Originally posted by i30nes
Good find... And when it comes to tuning the actual volumes and levels you need the right music... Dont assume to just use real heavy bass songs... find somethin with distinct bass hits. My personal favorite is using Guns N Roses - Paradise City due to the distinct bass hit. But also with that comes another issue.. Just because you have it tuned to sound good to one song doesnt mean the rest will sound perfect. So you gotta find that happy medium in your settings. Good luck with the install :macho

ok thanks :cool:

[Kickstarts-suck]

Just ordered it now.

Wish they had free shipping :(

$68 shipping :eek2:

[Slinky]

ouch, but dont forget the sub is heavy, that usually doesnt help with the shipping costs.

oh and you shouldnt need a cap, just go through and make sure you ground everything real good....you might also wanna look into upgrading all the power wires under your hood...like from the alternator to battery and the ground wires from the block to the frame.

[Kickstarts-suck]

Originally posted by Slinky
ouch, but dont forget the sub is heavy, that usually doesnt help with the shipping costs.

oh and you shouldnt need a cap, just go through and make sure you ground everything real good....you might also wanna look into upgrading all the power wires under your hood...like from the alternator to battery and the ground wires from the block to the frame.

ok will do!

[250exkid]

just woundering but that site... cardiscontsterios.com are those off brands ya think reliable???? im thinkin about buying all off brand except the audiobahns for my car...