toyota supra or rx7 [Archive]

11-09-2002, 07:29 AM

i love the engine in the supra. the supra has so much potential i want to go hit up a bank just to achieve it, has an engine that with stock internals can handle like 800hp. thats insane strength, supras are expensive as heck but ive seen some cheap tts. while both are great cars the supra is the clear winner in a real life shootout unless you are like the car magazines and decide the winner by the interior design, then i dont know i have never been in an rx7. so to answer your question SUPRA.

actually i could by a 1994 mustang for 6000 and a 1994 supra for 25000 and could have the stang running 10s with the extra 19000 i saved

Guy400

11-09-2002, 07:46 AM

Originally posted by raptakilla14
actually i could by a 1994 mustang for 6000 and a 1994 supra for 25000 and could have the stang running 10s with the extra 19000 i saved But at the end of the day you're still driving a Ford:D

flyin#5

11-09-2002, 07:51 AM

Originally posted by Guy432
But at the end of the day you're still driving a Ford:D

Unfortunatly :devil

Foxrage

11-09-2002, 08:41 AM

RX-7 My uncle has the older model one and it flies. The rotary motor sounds sweet in it too.

11-09-2002, 08:50 AM

i would take either one :D

Bean

11-09-2002, 08:59 AM

i would take neither one, they both suck, IMO, i would rather hav a mustang than a ricer, but thats me

tants

11-09-2002, 09:43 AM

stupid ricers.............

how bout a 69 hemmi cudda? :D

EvilJester400EX

11-09-2002, 09:46 AM

or 71 Chevelle.....?;)

QuadTrix6

11-09-2002, 09:59 AM

go with a Supra its a bigger car the rx-7 is too small, but there both very sick cars you can't go wrong with either one. Oh someone did tell me one time that after 80,000 miles the something goes on the rx-7..some kinda recall, not sure if its true though :confused:

Rastus

11-09-2002, 10:32 AM

67' Camaro RS :) :D

Oh,Chargers aren't too bad either :)

lil400exman

11-09-2002, 11:19 AM

good people dont know jack about rx-7 sure supras have them off the line used rx-7 are cheaper and handle a heck of alot better than the boat aka supra aure supras look nice but all real sport car racers will tell ya the rx-7 hands down lighter weight better motor and the 80k mile thing i never heard of such a thing ohh yah people think that they sound kool with no back pressure but you cant run them like that they kill you injectors and a few other things so just soup it up in other ways u dont really need that much though;) :)

Striker49

11-09-2002, 11:26 AM

http://www.plauder-smilies.de/evillaugh2.gif

http://images.traderonline.com/img/10/dealer/134743/31843212_1.jpg

Ryan

11-09-2002, 11:59 AM

Well if you ask I would say NIETHER!. I like HOT RODS and muscle cars. get a 1970 gto judge or a 34 ford coupe! now those are cars not these new rice burners!.:devil

airheadedduner

11-09-2002, 12:23 PM

I would take the RX-7, though the RX-8 would be even better. What gets me is how a 2 liter "rice burner" can hold its own against an american muscle car. Do you guys even know why asian cars have such small motors?? They get taxed heavily for having a car with an engine larger the 2.2 or 2.5, something in that area. If you can't tell japan don't exactly have the room for every one to have a big car. Not flameing just pointing something out.

11-09-2002, 12:24 PM

RX7's and Supra's arent really considered ricers to me, i think they are sports cars

Ryan

11-09-2002, 12:28 PM

What they are is just cheap cars witch they are also cheap to make them fast. a sport car to me is a corvette or a camaro, Like vipers ect. And with those stupid sounding exuast on them they are just so anoyying. I could never see myself driving in one of them.

airheadedduner

11-09-2002, 12:37 PM

A sports car to me is anything that I can enjoy driving. I had way more fun with my mom's vr6 jetta then my friends lumbering cammaro, thought that thing did scream down the straits:devil

Striker49

11-09-2002, 12:56 PM

The American muscles have big engine...but look at the weight they are pulling around. The cars themselvers are blocks compared to those now days, especially the imports. Also, you could have the exact same size engine, but with technology today you could pull 50% or more Horses out of a 03' Chevy 350 than the a 73' 350. I know, thats a bad example, but with technology these days, more power can be pulled out of smaller engines...where it used to take size to get the horses out of the block.

Ehy, maybe Im wrong?

Bean

11-09-2002, 01:12 PM

i consider a ricer a blaster, u can make it fast, it can be cool, its small, and it seems cool, til u drive a real car

american muscle cars are like R's, they can be made alot faster, alot ebtter, they are a little heavier, but alot better

MILF_HUNTER

11-09-2002, 01:23 PM

hands down either a 1970 chevelle 454 SS or a 1969 Dodge Charger RT with a 440 six pack. station wagons are pretty cool too. chevelle 2 door wagons are sweet. Ecto 1 on ghost busters is a damn pimpin ride. old ford wagons like 60 and 61 are hella sweet.

99_400EX

11-09-2002, 03:09 PM

Originally posted by Ryan88
What they are is just cheap cars witch they are also cheap to make them fast. a sport car to me is a corvette or a camaro, Like vipers ect. And with those stupid sounding exuast on them they are just so anoyying. I could never see myself driving in one of them.

im guessing you dont know much because they arnt cheep cars get on ebay and find a TTsupra they are $50,000+ i believe 98 was the last year for them here and 95 or 96 for the rx7 and the thing about stupid sounding exhaust i agree but that is only on all show and no go civics i think its dumb that people cut off thier stock muffler anh have anotherone welded on cat back exhausts dont sound like crap

an rx7 does handel better than a supra but the rotary motor is like a hot chick it takea alot of money to keep her happy

about the backpressure crap when you are pushing the amount of boost like on a modified RX7 or Supra haveing an exhaust actually hurts the performance it needs to be free flowing

i just like the thought of a 1.8L 4 cyl all motor integra can beat a 4.6 or 5.0 V8 mustang

Honda all the way:D

airheadedduner

11-09-2002, 05:02 PM

Originally posted by 99_400EX

i just like the thought of a 1.8L 4 cyl all motor integra can beat a 4.6 or 5.0 V8 mustang

Honda all the way:D

The same reason I like beating banshees with my buddies 310R instead of my cousins ported banshee. Its just more fun:devil

So if chevy made an oversize, overweight big bore quad that had a pushrod motor would you guys take that over a CRF powered quad????? It all comes down to brand loyalty and PERSONAL opinions. Every time this subject comes up it goes down in flames.
(Now putting on flame retardent suit and looking for a fire extingisher)

own2424

11-09-2002, 05:05 PM

Originally posted by 99_400EX

Honda all the way:D Finally, i was waiting for someone to say this!!! Yes, honda are great...nothing wrong wit them. I HATE domestics! My favorite cars gotta be Audi (s4,rs6) and BMW (m3,m5,mcoupe)...:D

99_400EX

11-09-2002, 05:21 PM

Originally posted by own2424
Finally, i was waiting for someone to say this!!! Yes, honda are great...nothing wrong wit them. I HATE domestics! My favorite cars gotta be Audi (s4,rs6) and BMW (m3,m5,mcoupe)...:D

well i dont hate domestics i like old hotrods but i am just partial to hondas

QuadTrix6

11-09-2002, 06:17 PM

i could't begin to imagine what it would be to insure those cars :eek:

loganB

11-09-2002, 08:01 PM

An Rx7 isnt a Ricer a ricer is a wonabe fast car.:D

4HUN

11-09-2002, 09:37 PM

Lexus SC300 Twin Turbo, all the way!! The power, speed and handling of a Supra with the luxury of a Lexus.;)

4HUN

11-09-2002, 09:39 PM

Just one more.... You can tell what my other car is!!......;)

11-09-2002, 09:46 PM

WOW
Me + Lexus = My Truck Would be SOLD

racerx573

11-09-2002, 09:47 PM

'67 Chevelle Malibu SS.

99_400EX

11-09-2002, 09:49 PM

Originally posted by loganB
An Rx7 isnt a Ricer a ricer is a wonabe fast car.:D

a ricer is any car that has stickers on it for parts it doesnt have ,

windsheld washer leds,

and sounds like it is going someware but it really isnt

Bean

11-09-2002, 09:56 PM

atcaully, ricer = any car from Japan or China = always pointles to own

99_400EX

11-09-2002, 10:02 PM

Originally posted by Bean
atcaully, ricer = any car from Japan or China = always pointles to own

you must be a domestic guy

and i guess that also means ford, chevy, dodge, ect are ricers because they are only american assembled because all the parts come from chind .....ect

4HUN

11-09-2002, 10:05 PM

atcaully, ricer = any car from Japan or China = always pointles to own

You are crazy. No domestic car can compare to a Japanese made vehicle. No wars here but give me one domestic vehicle that stands a chance in comparison to a japanese made car/truck.:rolleyes:

Bean

11-09-2002, 10:09 PM

no problem, im a chevy man actually, noo fords or dodges, better than imports, not as good as chevy

civic vs corrvette

tundra vs whatever chevy's thing is this size

own2424

11-09-2002, 10:09 PM

China dont make cars!

4HUN

11-09-2002, 10:13 PM

civic vs corrvette

Civic will have had no problems 10 years from now.

Dont get me wrong I HATE Honda's. But they are a really good cars. They will run forever. Plus a Corvette (or any domestic) vehicle is going to lose its resale value twice as fast as a foriegn automobile.

Civic vs. Honda = App;es vs. Oranges :rolleyes:

4HUN

11-09-2002, 10:14 PM

"Civic vs. Cavelier"

Something in its league.

No comparison at all.

11-09-2002, 10:15 PM

you guys must also releize that a lot of us down here in LA think 4x4's are usch a waste, that would be why i lowered my truck 2-4 instead of rasing it up

99_400EX

11-09-2002, 10:17 PM

Originally posted by Bean

tundra vs whatever chevy's thing is this size

and you call yourself a chevy man

also the civic vs vet thing go with a car that is in the same range

family car vs super car/ sports car

like compairing an xr50 to a RC51

bandit390

11-09-2002, 10:35 PM

Heres the best ricer site. http://www.riceboypage.com/ go to the hall of shame

and remember....

Nausty

11-09-2002, 10:37 PM

i gotta go with supra

4HUN

11-09-2002, 10:38 PM

http://www.fly.to/bmer

another good one.

BTW. on that pic. TRD is Toyota....;)

Striker49

11-09-2002, 11:04 PM

Originally posted by 4HUN
Plus a Corvette is going to lose its resale value twice as fast as a foriegn automobile.

Right...thats why 69' Vettes go around $40,000 and a 94' Civic goes for $3K?

Originally posted by 4HUN
Civic vs. Honda = App;es vs. Oranges :rolleyes:

Correct me if I am wrong, and maybe I missed the point, but a Civic is a Honda? :huh

11-09-2002, 11:30 PM

if a 69 vette goes for 40,000 then it better be mint and original. you can get a nice 68-72 my fav year model for about 15,000 to 25,000

Striker49

11-09-2002, 11:32 PM

Originally posted by EXracer8601
if a 69 vette goes for 40,000 then it better be mint and original. you can get a nice 68-72 my fav year model for about 15,000 to 25,000

Let me go check...surely I wasnt reading that wrong earlier. Im stupid, bear with me... :o

11-09-2002, 11:33 PM

u might be thinking of the 63 or 67, they are some very valued ones also.

Striker49

11-09-2002, 11:36 PM

Well, I checked... from $20,000-$60,000. Just depends on condition. Anyways...you get my point. A 69' Vette is more than likely going to be worth more than a 94' Civic anyday. :confused:

BTW, here is where I got the info... http://www.collectorcartraderonline.com

11-09-2002, 11:38 PM

yea well, i get the point lmao :D

Striker49

11-09-2002, 11:43 PM

Well, he//...I gave bad examples on the price ranges.

94 Civic: Average Price $5791

:o

Told ya im stupid. :rolleyes:

11-09-2002, 11:48 PM

Originally posted by Striker49
Well, he//...I gave bad examples on the price ranges.

94 Civic: Average Price $5791

:o

Told ya im stupid. :rolleyes:

figures, typical 250ex rider :p i wanted to trade u my 400ex plus 3000 cash, but u turned down my offer, remember?

Striker49

11-10-2002, 12:01 AM

Originally posted by EXracer8601

figures, typical 250ex rider :p i wanted to trade u my 400ex plus 3000 cash, but u turned down my offer, remember?

Yeah, vaguely...I must have been drunk or something, how could I have turned down that offer? :huh

Try to make that ex-250ex rider...I dont plan on touching the thing again unless its to shove it off a cliff. :eek:

4HUN

11-10-2002, 12:04 AM

Civic vs. Honda = App;es vs. Oranges

LOL...... it is meant to be Civic's vs. Vettes.....LOL

Ill try this again.

69 vettte vs. 94 Civic = apples vs. oranges

:)

airheadedduner

11-10-2002, 12:40 AM

Civic vs. Vette??? You might as well right dirt wheels and request a shootout between a c-dale and a raptor 80.
Now campare Supra vs. Vette.

I would take supra hands down. Tha pic of flanders is right though honda's are economy cars but they are also sports cars(some anyway). The big reason people I know would buy an s2000 or supra over a vette is cause the can afford to drive them every day. You can buy an S2000 for way less then a vette, have just as much fun driving it, and it gets twice the gas milleage. I guess SOME of you guys will under stand later when you get a licence and have to buy your own gas a pay your on insurence, and bills:rolleyes: You think I enjoy driving my POS S-10 around. **** NO!!!!!! but it gets me where I want to go and I can afford it.

4HUN

11-10-2002, 12:48 AM

I guess SOME of you guys will under stand later when you get a licence and have to buy your own gas a pay your on insurence, and bills You think I enjoy driving my POS S-10 around. **** NO!!!!!! but it gets me where I want to go and I can afford it.

I hear that. :)

Striker49

11-10-2002, 08:59 AM

Originally posted by airheadedduner
I guess SOME of you guys will under stand later when you get a licence and have to buy your own gas a pay your on insurence, and bills:rolleyes: You think I enjoy driving my POS S-10 around. **** NO!!!!!! but it gets me where I want to go and I can afford it.

I drive a 95' Lumina with a V6 3.1 Liter and an 88' Silverado with a 350 V8 4.7 Liter (I think thats right).

Na, I dont know anything bout gas mileage. :rolleyes:

JustRace

11-10-2002, 09:48 AM

yeah it sucks that the z06 has over 400hp and still gets over 22 mpg. What type of hp does that s2000 have compared with gas mileage. Oh yeah wait even the ls1 trans am with 315-325hp still gets around 25mpg. I've even seen as much as 31mpg out of them. Gotta suck to have that much hp and still get good gas mileage. :rolleyes:

JustRace

11-10-2002, 10:03 AM

Horsepower @ RPM Cavalier 140@5600 Civic 115@6100

Torque @ RPM Cavalier 150@4000 Civic 110@4500

So both being stock the cavy wins. Also with that new ecotech 2.2 the cavy wins modded too.

Striker49

11-10-2002, 11:25 AM

How bout them Honda 2000 numbers...

Horsepower @ rpm (SAE net) 240 @ 8300
Torque (lb-ft @ rpm) 153 @ 7500

City/Highway 20 / 26

Im on JustRace's side on this one. :p

99_400EX

11-10-2002, 12:43 PM

Originally posted by JustRace
Horsepower @ RPM Cavalier 140@5600 Civic 115@6100

Torque @ RPM Cavalier 150@4000 Civic 110@4500

So both being stock the cavy wins. Also with that new ecotech 2.2 the cavy wins modded too.

hey you for got the weight of the cars and the powerloss through the tranny and what civic were you looking at they range in hp from 98hp to 160+hp

JustRace

11-10-2002, 01:26 PM

sorry I did just the LX. Yes there is a 160hp motor but the torque is still only 130. Also the base price on the civic SI is 19,000 while the base price on the cavi is 16,000, and thats the ls sports coupe (z24). I went easy I could have chosen to compare the grand prix GTP. I don't mind when people rip on domestics and can back there facts but most people don't know crap about domestics when they diss them. Who knew that the corvette and f-bodys got over 20mpg (city driving). I'm a little partial to the f-bodies though. I mean how many other 25-30K cars have broken into the VERY high 12's stock?

RideRed04

11-10-2002, 01:26 PM

I am just going to say that the vette is a sweet car, best preformance deal I have ever seen. In responce to the honda's being more reliable...who cares? Reliability is very important, but its a maintainance thing. c-dale vs. 400ex. I'd take the c-dale myself. The camero's are the most under-rated cars ever produced. The reason they stopped being made is because someone got the idea that economy cars where better preforming. Yes, old camero's got bad gas milage. Now they can regularly see 26mpg. I dont know much about imports, but how many for the price of a camero ss (26,000ish) will run 13's in the 1/4?

99_400EX

11-10-2002, 01:38 PM

Originally posted by RideRed04
I am just going to say that the vette is a sweet car, best preformance deal I have ever seen. In responce to the honda's being more reliable...who cares? Reliability is very important, but its a maintainance thing. c-dale vs. 400ex. I'd take the c-dale myself. The camero's are the most under-rated cars ever produced. The reason they stopped being made is because someone got the idea that economy cars where better preforming. Yes, old camero's got bad gas milage. Now they can regularly see 26mpg. I dont know much about imports, but how many for the price of a camero ss (26,000ish) will run 13's in the 1/4?

the 2003 mitsubishi Lancer EVO VII or the 2003 Subaru Impreza WRX STI, or ................. heck my $23,000 Acura Integra and its big 1.8L 4 banger was in the 14's in the 1/4

JustRace

11-10-2002, 01:53 PM

last I knew even though they were going to bring the lancer over it still wasn't the same as over in jap. He also said 13's not 14's and that is a big difference. I would also like to see a timeslip of your integra running 14's cause I haven't seen a stock one do it before.

bandit390

11-10-2002, 02:09 PM

Civic , Cavalier, zr2, and all the rest of the little craps. Who cares about them really? they are are slow and is not a sports car!

This is shame that yall are fighting over which ones of these crappy, good gas mil. non sports car is faster.

Glow Plug

11-10-2002, 04:05 PM

Who cares about the diffrences between a cavalier or civic there both as slow as another, Try comparing some real cars like a eclipse gsx, or a supra tt, and a rx 7 sure you'll see some riced out gsx's supras etc etc but they are the only jap cars that sould have been imported in the first place