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woodsracer144
11-12-2007, 08:10 PM
ok im lookin in to tradeing and throwing in some money on a 96 f-250 powerstroke 7.3L 4x4 8ft box topper, extended cab, power everything, auto 170000 moiles and 30000 on a rebuilt tranny and transfer case, 6500 for it, i wanna chip it to get better fuel mileage and get some power...what do you think?

beaker1214
11-13-2007, 11:17 AM
Get a edge programmer... I drove a 2006 dodge cummins w that and it makes a huge differernce w power thats for sure.... the one I drove had a 4 inch exhaust and with that I never really had a chance to check the millage but thats bc I worked at a dealership and w my heavy foot on that test drive I bet it wasnt pretty. There was black smoke w a little white from the burnout going everywhere. :D

Pipeless416
11-13-2007, 11:45 AM
during the summer i work for our city's public works and there was a 96 7.3 that used to be my truck to use. i'll miss that thing so much next summer, as it was put up for auction and replaced with a 6.0 :rolleyes: . now all they have are 6.4's and 6.0's. a few chevy 6.6's too.

mittman
11-13-2007, 12:09 PM
the edge programmer is the way to go i'm getting one for my truck i used to have a ford f-150 but got rid of it. i'm glad i bought a diesel every morning before i go to school i start up my truck 5 min or so before i leave to get the fluids warm.when i walk out to leave and you smell that diesel and its like the greatest smell i love it. so hope your happy with your truck and good luck with it

woodsracer144
11-13-2007, 02:52 PM
how much are those edge ones? i was lookin at a chip that gains 40 hp and like 7 mpg for 8 bucks... it was just the chip nothing els to adjust anything...

honda8&3
11-13-2007, 04:16 PM
power strokes kinda suck IMO. Not even an original diesel. There gas conversions. Cummins and Duramax are the only good ones at this point, I wanna see Nissan come out with a diesel! But hey it's all what you like I guess.:)

woodsracer144
11-13-2007, 04:41 PM
the only thing other than a ford i will buy is a dodge... and the 7.2 over a 6.6 i would take the 7.2 but i like the 96 style trucks. so i wanna get one like that...

400exrider707
11-13-2007, 07:59 PM
For the older 7.3 motors, DP chips are the best hands down, dyno proven. Stop by www.thedieselstop.com and check it out, lots of good ford diesel techs around there. I spend a lot of time there now.:D


Also when looking at chips and tuners, never buy just to gain economy. Most of the time you wont notice it. Buy mods for more power, and if you happen to gain some MPG out of it than be happy.

mittman
11-13-2007, 09:04 PM
Originally posted by woodsracer144
the only thing other than a ford i will buy is a dodge... and the 7.2 over a 6.6 i would take the 7.2 but i like the 96 style trucks. so i wanna get one like that...

i would buy a ford too but it was something about the 96 dodge i liked plus my dad gave it to me as a b-day present it only has 83,000 miles so it still has lots of life left in it. my dad only used it to pull our camper and little stuff so i know it wasnt beat . i love that truck all the kids say omg your truck is 10 years old but alot of times after i take them for a ride they say wow for 10 years old its got some power, wanna trade. yeah right i treat it like a family member

parkers30
11-13-2007, 09:25 PM
Many of the guys on the dieselstop swear by tony wildman and some other custom tuners, they setup a chip for your needs

In these trucks the real chips do far better than the flash tuners like the edges


To who ever said this engine or any other powerstroke is a gas conversion is joking I hope. They are all purpose built diesels right from international. The 7.3 was derived from the international 444e if I remember right

pro-rider46
11-13-2007, 09:32 PM
edge does make a great chip, havent heard much about the ones that you guys were talking about at the dieselstop. but my brothers 7.3 got about 100 more mile to the tank, thats a big improvent. wouldnt you say

CDCHONDAS
11-14-2007, 10:37 AM
Originally posted by honda8&3
power strokes kinda suck IMO. Not even an original diesel. There gas conversions.

lol what a stupid statement

400exrider707
11-14-2007, 11:08 AM
Originally posted by pro-rider46
edge does make a great chip, havent heard much about the ones that you guys were talking about at the dieselstop. but my brothers 7.3 got about 100 more mile to the tank, thats a big improvent. wouldnt you say

Once you go custom tuning, you never go back.

trick450r
11-14-2007, 02:44 PM
edge is a very novel idea...but its peanuts compared to Dp tuner or T. wildman at totaldieselperformance.com



like was said before...custom tuning is like nothing else
take it from someone who has already built a 13.5 second obs 7.3....not an easy task ha

CDCHONDAS
11-14-2007, 02:46 PM
well with the edge you can stack the juice/attitude setup which works fine to a certain extent but costs alot, whereas you can do a custom for about 1/2 the money and have alot more options so +1 for custom chips.

woodsracer144
11-14-2007, 03:41 PM
this is my first truck so... whats the best one do you think... i've heard alot of good on the DP?
me and my brother just contest back and fourth like a friendly joke, like he buys a wheeler, i get a faster one, he buys a truck i get on for a better price , he buys a gun i try to find a better one... he buys a hick truck i buy a moped...

"international 444e" yeah thats right.

jherbie28
11-14-2007, 07:09 PM
i have a 03 7.3 powerstroke with 183,000 miles on it and am also looking into getting the edge programmer but kind of weiry of performance gains of the stature with the miles i have. i know they are supposed to run forever if taken care of correctly. i need to contact the people that either sell the edge or make it. just to ease my mind. good or bad choice?

Nick110
11-14-2007, 07:28 PM
Originally posted by jherbie28
i have a 03 7.3 powerstroke with 183,000 miles on it and am also looking into getting the edge programmer but kind of weiry of performance gains of the stature with the miles i have. i know they are supposed to run forever if taken care of correctly. i need to contact the people that either sell the edge or make it. just to ease my mind. good or bad choice?

I thought they made the 6.0 in 2003.

300EXrider356
11-14-2007, 08:15 PM
Stop by www.powerstroke.org, they have alot of diesel techs that are on there. ohh and I'm pretty sure that the 6.0 was an option for 2003.

jherbie28
11-15-2007, 01:53 PM
at the end of 03 was when they went to the 6.0. i was lucky to get a 7.3

wvspeedfreak
11-15-2007, 01:57 PM
Originally posted by jherbie28
i have a 03 7.3 powerstroke with 183,000 miles on it and am also looking into getting the edge programmer but kind of weiry of performance gains of the stature with the miles i have. i know they are supposed to run forever if taken care of correctly. i need to contact the people that either sell the edge or make it. just to ease my mind. good or bad choice?

I am in the same boat as you Josh.I have a 7.3 that is getting some miles on it and don't want to comprimise the reliability but wouldn't mind a little more power.

jherbie28
11-15-2007, 02:13 PM
hey jason, whats up man, yeah i just dont want any problems but would love to hit a button and cyaaaaaaaaaaa:devil: let me know if you find anything out, also saw some pics of austin, man hes really rippin it up:cool:

trick450r
11-15-2007, 04:22 PM
Originally posted by wvspeedfreak
I am in the same boat as you Josh.I have a 7.3 that is getting some miles on it and don't want to comprimise the reliability but wouldn't mind a little more power.

speedfreak if i remember correctly you have an obs (older body style) powerstroke correct?

if so contact itpdiesel.com for a dp tuner chip, they will talk to you about everything on your truck and will give you honest answer about your reliabilty question.

trx400EXtreme
11-15-2007, 05:09 PM
edge is a great company for sure. if you dont want edge try PPE. they are great. my dad tried one on his 03 cummins and it was pretty crazy. we set it to extreme mode and it gave us TONS of power. we were goin at a steady 40mph and hammered it and it broke the tires loose like we were sitting still.

wvspeedfreak
11-15-2007, 05:16 PM
Originally posted by trick450r
speedfreak if i remember correctly you have an obs (older body style) powerstroke correct?

if so contact itpdiesel.com for a dp tuner chip, they will talk to you about everything on your truck and will give you honest answer about your reliabilty question.

Yes,mine is a 97 f350 powerstroke.I will check out itpdiesel.com.Thanks.

wvspeedfreak
11-15-2007, 05:18 PM
Originally posted by jherbie28
hey jason, whats up man, yeah i just dont want any problems but would love to hit a button and cyaaaaaaaaaaa:devil: let me know if you find anything out, also saw some pics of austin, man hes really rippin it up:cool:

I hear ya on the cyaaaaaaaaaa LOL.I am just afraid that if I start on the diesel mods it might get addicting and snowball into another expensive hobby that I can't afford haha :p

ida400ex
11-15-2007, 06:01 PM
i herd that wavy lays are realy good. JK my dad used to have an 7.2 but he just got a 06 6.0 and it is way better than his 7.2. he wont chip it, he thinks its a sin.

mittman
11-15-2007, 07:09 PM
its never a sin when you are adding more power. its a sin when you dont add power

400exrider707
11-15-2007, 07:11 PM
Not to mention you cant chip a 6.0.... tuners and programmers only.


Yes diesel tuning can add up very fast. Its not so much the go fast parts, its all the parts necessary to keep a 1000ft/lb truck together.

woodsracer144
11-15-2007, 07:16 PM
i found this

1994 Ford F-250 4x4
Super cab, long bed, 7.3L Powerstroke, 5spd. Runs great, ready for a plow or towing. 210K miles. New parts everywhere he wants 4300 obo,

woodsracer144
11-20-2007, 07:01 PM
ok that guy sold that one i found but i found another one
here the back on it
1997 Ford F350 1 Ton dually extended cab, 7.3 Powerstroke Diesel, dually pickup box with tommy lift. Has 245,000 miles on it. Runs good its a auto
whats a price on a truck like this? im sure if i baby it it will last me another 100,000 miles mabie,
and heres a pic

400exrider707
11-20-2007, 07:11 PM
Originally posted by woodsracer144
ok that guy sold that one i found but i found another one
here the back on it
1997 Ford F350 1 Ton dually extended cab, 7.3 Powerstroke Diesel, dually pickup box with tommy lift. Has 245,000 miles on it. Runs good its a auto
whats a price on a truck like this? im sure if i baby it it will last me another 100,000 miles mabie,
and heres a pic


Tough to say. From the picture (which isn't great) the truck doesn't look great. However 245,000 on a diesel really doesn't mean much, but the rest of the truck it may mean something. Trannies, brakes, tires all the usual stuff, check that out. Do you really need a dually? What are you using this truck for?

woodsracer144
11-20-2007, 07:18 PM
i just want a diesel, im more a ford guy unledd its a newer dodge, and i dont have 10g's

im gonna use it to pull a trailer with race quads on it, and i wand to make its one of a kind... dont need a dually... but he wants 3500 for it... and thats cheap... but that also could mean that it needs tranny work... i'll see what he says to the tires and all that... i was planning on chipping it or something... but i really want a diesel, im 16 and the look of the thing i drive means alot, i work hard and i really like those ford trucks, i dont have my mom and dad that pay for this eather... but at a dealer by me there was a 96 f250 gas with a shot box extened cab with a man. with 180 thou on it for 11500.

parkers30
11-20-2007, 07:56 PM
For reference I paid 7500 year and a half ago for a pretty clean 96 F-250 4x4 PSD SC long bed it had 178,000 and the guy had complete maintenance records and so far so good other them eating front end parts and me running 125 and bending a push rod in the process....

She needs injectors and a TC before I can put anymore power through it, but with 210k on it I can't complain. It will probably get replaced with an 01 or 02 Superduty CC in a year or so

jherbie28
11-20-2007, 08:08 PM
im up against edge programmer and 4" mbrp exhaust or fox float evol front shocks:ermm: fox floats i think for now. hope i make the right choice:confused:

woodsracer144
11-20-2007, 08:15 PM
i also find this
1994 Ford F-250 4x4
Super cab, long bed, 7.3L Powerstroke, 5spd. Runs great, ready for a plow or towing. 210K miles. New parts everywhere for 4300

ShiftFMX
11-20-2007, 10:39 PM
I cant say Much for the Diesels, But I'm running the Edge Evo on my F150 5.4, and I love it, the gains were deff noticeable, My favorite part is that you can adjust your shift firmness and shift points, Plus has an Instant MPG Readings...Very nice, I believe I paid just over $500 for it.

mittman
11-21-2007, 06:44 AM
Originally posted by woodsracer144
ok that guy sold that one i found but i found another one
here the back on it
1997 Ford F350 1 Ton dually extended cab, 7.3 Powerstroke Diesel, dually pickup box with tommy lift. Has 245,000 miles on it. Runs good its a auto
whats a price on a truck like this? im sure if i baby it it will last me another 100,000 miles mabie,
and heres a pic

i'm not good with prices but i would say 4,000 or maybe even less. i would go for it. since its a diesel it still has some life left in it. good luck what ever you decide to do.

woodsracer144
11-21-2007, 06:56 AM
he wants 3500 and on kbb they said 7000

mittman
11-21-2007, 09:24 AM
i would buy it if you dont like it then sell it and you might be able to get more for it

woodsracer144
11-21-2007, 09:31 AM
yeah but i would like a 4x4... im sure that a 2wd will take me just about every where but i can have that with a dully with snow... i might buy it and then just sell it on ebay and see what i will get.

mittman
11-21-2007, 09:57 AM
that sucks that its not 4x4 i would buy it then sell it on ebay just like you said i'm sure you can find somone to buy it

parkers30
11-21-2007, 10:18 AM
You'll be amazed at how bad these things are in 2wd, the diesel in the front is like an anchor, but they go just about anywhere in 4

mittman
11-21-2007, 01:18 PM
yeah thats true i was going to buy a 4x2 but i find myself getting into trouble in 2 wheel drive glad my dad gave me his 4x4 thank god for me or my friend bill wouldnt have a truck

woodsracer144
11-21-2007, 03:59 PM
nice pic. i think im gonna take a look around... but i cant find anyhting as cheap as this, i can fidn a 250 with 190000 on it and its 65-- or 5500 or one with 200000 on its and its 5500...

woodsracer144
11-21-2007, 04:20 PM
http://www.kbb.com/KBB/UsedCars/PricingReport.aspx?ManufacturerId=15&YearId=1997&VehicleClass=UsedCar&VehicleId=7695&PriceType=Private+Party&ModelId=103&Mileage=245000&SelectionHistory=7695%7c6222%7c54730%7c0%7c0%7c288 782%7ctrue&Condition=Good&QuizConditions=

theres the kbb.

j20accord00
11-27-2007, 05:27 AM
This is my truck. 03 f250 6.0 I have a few things done to it. Ive only had it for about a month and half now..bought it bone stock. I walk away from my friends 5.9 cummins. Best chip for the ford or at least the 6.0 is SCT Flash. A few guys out there writing custom tunes for it. I have a 160hp over stock tune on there right now. Check it out. I just lifted it and put new wheels and tires on there.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v230/J20accord00/EvansPics004-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v230/J20accord00/BadAss5.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v230/J20accord00/BadAss2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v230/J20accord00/BadAss3.jpg

I need new pics

-Evan

400exrider707
11-27-2007, 06:42 AM
I wouldn't waste my time with a 2x4 dually if you live where you will get snow at all, they are terrible in the snow, and a dually will be worse. Trucks are bad enough with no weight over the driving wheels, add to that a heavy diesel motor in the front of the truck...




My 06 6.0 SCT tuned with Innovative Diesel tunes. Only pics I have of it are from when it was pouring rain outside.


http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e166/400exrider707/IMG_0864.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e166/400exrider707/IMG_0863.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e166/400exrider707/IMG_0865.jpg

j20accord00
11-27-2007, 06:58 AM
how do you like Eric's tunes? I am running DJ's tunes right now. Looney. Are you part of any forums?

-Evan

400exrider707
11-27-2007, 07:25 AM
Originally posted by j20accord00
how do you like Eric's tunes? I am running DJ's tunes right now. Looney. Are you part of any forums?

-Evan

Love the tunes. I have economy (which is a waste of money) towing 10K+ and Xtreme Street. I love the last two. I will probably be purcahsing a regular street tune for my daily driving. I'm on www.thedieselstop.com and just recently joined www.dieselbombers.com I check out a few others but dont belong.

j20accord00
11-27-2007, 08:02 AM
Originally posted by 400exrider707
Love the tunes. I have economy (which is a waste of money) towing 10K+ and Xtreme Street. I love the last two. I will probably be purcahsing a regular street tune for my daily driving. I'm on www.thedieselstop.com and just recently joined www.dieselbombers.com I check out a few others but dont belong.

yeah I go on dieselstop ever now and again. but Im always on www.powerstroke.org tons of info on there. you should check it out one day. maybe ill see ya there

-Evan

Nick110
11-27-2007, 12:36 PM
Originally posted by 400exrider707
I wouldn't waste my time with a 2x4 dually if you live where you will get snow at all, they are terrible in the snow, and a dually will be worse. Trucks are bad enough with no weight over the driving wheels, add to that a heavy diesel motor in the front of the truck...




My 06 6.0 SCT tuned with Innovative Diesel tunes. Only pics I have of it are from when it was pouring rain outside.


http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e166/400exrider707/IMG_0864.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e166/400exrider707/IMG_0863.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e166/400exrider707/IMG_0865.jpg



Fuccillo, whyyyyy those guys are so annoying. But nce truck.

11-27-2007, 01:15 PM
How much is a trans for 96 7.3? My dads trans blew and he just got the new 08 f250superduty, twin turbos and all that. So I can get his old truck for free pretty much, but the trans. Would it be worth throwing in another trans? And how hard would it be switching an auto to a manuel?

400exrider707
11-27-2007, 02:26 PM
Originally posted by nofearrider1
How much is a trans for 96 7.3? My dads trans blew and he just got the new 08 f250superduty, twin turbos and all that. So I can get his old truck for free pretty much, but the trans. Would it be worth throwing in another trans? And how hard would it be switching an auto to a manuel?

Yes absolutely it would be worth it... its a free truck right? I'm sure you can pick up a re-man tranny for under $1000 no problem, heck might be able to get two at that price. For the most part going from auto to manual is pretty straight-forward swap on those trucks IIRC.

11-27-2007, 02:52 PM
Originally posted by 400exrider707
Yes absolutely it would be worth it... its a free truck right? I'm sure you can pick up a re-man tranny for under $1000 no problem, heck might be able to get two at that price. For the most part going from auto to manual is pretty straight-forward swap on those trucks IIRC.

Yea I deff wanna get it. Right now I'm driving around in my moms VW beetle, since I crashed my POS Chevy blazer. So the truck would be such a better choice. It needs stupid stuff like new seats and dash, but its so much better than a VW beetle or s10blazer. Well actually, my parents took my license away so I really don't have to worry about anything yet:o

11-27-2007, 04:05 PM
Barbeque chips.

Wait, what are we talking about?

woodsracer144
11-27-2007, 04:09 PM
nice pics guys, um... if you want som BBQ chips your gonna have to find somebody els... unless somebody els has some...

i found a 95 for 4500 i just need to tlak to my folks about it.

parkers30
11-27-2007, 06:18 PM
I think you'll be blown away by how much a good rebuild is, the torque converters alone are 800-900 for an after market one that will hold up. For a good rebuild through BTS or another top builder you are looking at $2000 or more

woodsracer144
11-27-2007, 08:28 PM
it probally would but i dont have that kind of money right now, i have like 5 grand at tops to work with... so i just wanna find a nice truck, thanks guys

parkers30 where are you at about??

parkers30
11-27-2007, 09:29 PM
central Illinois

:bandit:

400exrider707
11-28-2007, 08:14 AM
Originally posted by parkers30
I think you'll be blown away by how much a good rebuild is, the torque converters alone are 800-900 for an after market one that will hold up. For a good rebuild through BTS or another top builder you are looking at $2000 or more

Yeah I was thinking just a cheap stock rebuild or a junkyard tranny perhaps for him, I'm looking at a full suncoast myself, but $4K for a transmission is crazy!:eek2:

parkers30
11-28-2007, 01:17 PM
Thats the reason I haven't chipped mine, the trans is sketchy enough as is with 210k on it, I don't want to deal it the death blow, I can't afford it right now.


I am thinking I will get a new truck before too long anyway, so dumping the money into this truck is a waste.

woodsracer144
11-28-2007, 05:21 PM
oh my brother has a buddy he calls parker so i didnt know, were in WI and his buddy knows a ton on trucks and stuff.