hey pappy

[mine]

I was just wondering, I already pmed you, but I need a quick answer, Me and my dad have a choice of either a nikon d-40x 10.2 or a canon rebel xti 10.1

I've read somewhere that the xti is no good unless you put an aftermarket lense on,

but the d-40x is no good at all if I want to shoot indoors.

I will be outdoors for the most part, but if you had the two infront of you which one will you bring to the track( outdoors ), ( if you were a newb, such as me )

And say 3 months down the line i want to add some stuff to the nikon or the canon, how is the aftermarket as far as lenses and whatnot for each item.

Thanks in advance

Mike

[Pappy]

flip a coin, both will do great for someone who will use it in auto mode

my brother uses a canon rebel xti and the shots look great, but knowing about photography will help both cameras give up what they are capable of. you dont buy a set of snap on tools and poof...your a master mechanic.

cody uses his in manual and gets good results, and the other program modes seem acceptable as well with the d40x

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1306/1270082207_07458eb19e_b.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1306/543077302_c93991e564_o.jpg

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[mine]

I'm leaning towards a conon rebel xti beacuse I hera theres a bigger aftermarket as far as lenses. is the a alot of different lenses that i can put on the d40x, i read that you can aonly use the nikor lenses?


just re-read it, please excuse my spelling.:(

[Pappy]

if you plan yto buy non manufacture lenses, then canon is the way to go in the entry level body

[mine]

are manufacture lenses alot more than non?

[Pappy]

typically yes when apples & apples are compared. the d40 uses an internal motor for its lenses and will limit you to either nikon only for now as i havent heard of any others available. you can use other nikon lenses on it, but you will be forced to manually foucs etc.


id suggest taking a good look around the web, as nikon d50's refurbed can be had for $300 and offers more IMO then the d40 and canon rebel, but the rebel will work fine.

[mine]

Money is very limited to me at this time, so if i buy a camera i want to be sure its going to work. What are some site that you would recomend, reliable and customer friendly? Would you recomend buying a rebubished / used camera ?

[Pappy]

bh photo
adorama

ebay is a great place as well, just check feedback and try and buy from a larger camera store on there. reburb units are fine

[MOFO]

Originally posted by Pappy
typically yes when apples & apples are compared. the d40 uses an internal motor for its lenses and will limit you to either nikon only for now as i havent heard of any others available. you can use other nikon lenses on it, but you will be forced to manually foucs etc.




Here is a current list of lenses that the D40 will autofocus. Sigma now makes compatible lenses.

Nikon/Nikkor

AF-S DX 12-24mm 4.0G ED-IF

AF-S 17-35mm 2.8D ED-IF

AF-S DX 17-55mm 2.8G ED-IF

AF-S DX 18-55mm 3.5-5.6G

AF-S DX 18-70mm 3.5-4.5G ED-IF

AF-S DX 18-135mm 3.5-5.6 ED-IF

AF-S VR DX 18-200mm 3.5-5.6G IF-ED

AF-S 24-85mm 3.5-4.5G IF-ED

AF-S VR 24-120mm 3.5-5.6G ED-IF

AF-S 28-70mm 2,8 IF-ED

AF-S DX 55-200mm 4-5.6G ED

AF-S VR 55–200mm 4–5.6G IF-ED

AF-S VR 70-200mm 2.8G ED-IF

AF-S VR 70-300mm 4.5-5.6G

AF-S 80-200mm 2.8 ED-IF

AF-S VR 105mm 2.8G

AF-S VR 200mm 2.0G ED-IF

AF-S VR 200-400mm 4.0G ED-IF

AF-I 300mm 2.8D IF-ED

AF-S 300mm 2.8D IF-ED

AF-S 300mm 4.0D ED-IF

AF-S VR 300mm 2.8 ED-IF

AF-I 400mm 2.8 D IF-ED

AF-S 400mm 2.8D ED-IF

AF-I 500mm 4.0D IF-ED

AF-S 500mm 4.0D ED-IF

AF-I 600mm 4.0D IF-ED

AF-S 600mm 4.0D ED-IF


Sigma:

10-20mm 4-5.6 EX DC HSM

12-24mm 4.5-5.6 EX DG HSM

14mm 2.8 EX

17-35mm 2.8-4.0 EX DG

17-70mm f2.8-4.5 DC Macro HSM New

18-50mm 3.5-5.6 DC HSM New

18-50mm f2.8 EX DC Macro HSM New

18-200mm f3.5-6.3 DC OS New

30mm 1.4 DC

50-500mm 4.0-6.3 EX DG

50-150mm 2.8 EX DC HSM

55-200mm 4-5.6 DC HSM New

70-200mm 2,8 EX DG Makro

80-200mm 2.8 EX DG Makro

80-400mm 4-5.6 EX OS

100-300mm 4.0 EX DG

120-300mm 2.8 EX DG

150mm 2.8 EX DG MAKRO

180mm 3.5 EX DG MAKRO

300mm 2.8 EX DG APO HSM

300-800mm 5.6 EX DG APO

500mm 4.5 EX DG HSM APO

800mm 5.6 EX DG APO

[MOFO]

Originally posted by Pappy
flip a coin, both will do great for someone who will use it in auto mode

my brother uses a canon rebel xti and the shots look great, but knowing about photography will help both cameras give up what they are capable of. you dont buy a set of snap on tools and poof...your a master mechanic.

cody uses his in manual and gets good results, and the other program modes seem acceptable as well with the d40x

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1306/1270082207_07458eb19e_b.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1306/543077302_c93991e564_o.jpg

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Pappy - did he use a 50 for those shots?

[Pappy]

those were used with the 55-200 kit lens. the 2nd pic had a gold reflector used to bring out the edge detail. i havent tried any of my lenses on the d40 but i have a feeling it will make a world of difference.

[MOFO]

Originally posted by Pappy
those were used with the 55-200 kit lens. the 2nd pic had a gold reflector used to bring out the edge detail. i havent tried any of my lenses on the d40 but i have a feeling it will make a world of difference.

Hopefully I will have a 55-200 VR lense in the next couple months. Seems to be a great deal for the $$$$. The only downside is that I've heard its not a very quick lense... which would be fine for me as I do not plan on shooting much action.

[signboy]

I don't know if you got your camera yet, but newegg.com had a promo going on a couple of days ago for the Canon XTI with lense, a digital picture frame, 1 GIG CF card all for $695.00. Pretty good deal