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Pappy
10-26-2007, 07:23 PM
I see that 2 of the jena 6 were on BET presenting the best video award. nice eh?

Now, the two were not in jail because they plea bargained out of incarceration and had their 2nd degree attempted murder charges dropped, but fact remains they beat on a kid until he was unconcious and fled....over racial motives.

They were then invited to do the BET hip hop awards show where they spoke briefly about how a group of people can come together in unity over an issue? I did not see them say what they did was wrong? maybe the issue they were refering to was the fact that they got the justice on the white kid that they feel they did not get through any other means?


imagine two white kids on MTV after being publically known for being with 4 other white kids that beat a black youth to the ground.

sorry for the rant....but WTF

wizzade
10-26-2007, 07:27 PM
i agree 100%.... and while we are on racial rants i think Al Sharpton is the most racist person alive!

jcv400ex
10-26-2007, 07:30 PM
yes sir he is!! Racism would go away...if black activists would let it....

Ghost-Rider
10-26-2007, 07:34 PM
Gotta love it eh?

10-26-2007, 08:02 PM
I heard that the Emancipation Proclamation ends in 2010 are we going to be allowed to have slaves again?

10-26-2007, 08:12 PM
Originally posted by Polak1035
I heard that the Emancipation Proclamation ends in 2010 are we going to be allowed to have slaves again?

your retarded.

Anyway, gotta love the double standards huh?

wizzade
10-26-2007, 08:24 PM
Originally posted by Polak1035
I heard that the Emancipation Proclamation ends in 2010 are we going to be allowed to have slaves again?

People already do...Go to most any costruction job and look at all of the illegal mexicans. Most are payed less than minimum wage. Illegal aliens are modern day slaves.

troyleepred719
10-26-2007, 09:02 PM
Honestly, I would love to wake up tommorow morning, just to watch the news and see that the Klan got to them, and left them High strung in an Oak tree, But thats just my opinion.




Kind of make you think why the Black Panthers are considered a Civil Rights Group, and the KKK is considered a hostile group with racial Motives....

gncc025
10-26-2007, 09:23 PM
i agree, the whole jena6 stuff is BS. it doesnt matter to me if it was done for revenge or just for the hell of it. fact is 6 kids beat 1 kid unconsciously and the 6 should serve their time. they knew better. its ridiculous to me how complicated people can make that. our legal system is just whack if u ask me.

and al sharpton aint helping a damn thing in this world regarding racial tension. hes just fuel on the fire, but thats a whole other topic. :ermm:

Crashmore 22
10-26-2007, 09:37 PM
Originally posted by wizzade
People already do...Go to most any costruction job and look at all of the illegal mexicans. Most are payed less than minimum wage. Illegal aliens are modern day slaves.

I agree, to solve the problem I think they should all just get mad and GO BACK TO MEXICO !!!!!!!!!!!!

user101
10-26-2007, 10:17 PM
crashmore, wasn't there a klan rally down around there last week?

oh and by the way...are you also known as blondy?

Crashmore 22
10-26-2007, 10:58 PM
Originally posted by user101
crashmore, wasn't there a klan rally down around there last week?

oh and by the way...are you also known as blondy?

Yeah I think there was................. Blondy? If with the blondy comment you were refering to the Nazi genocide, I never said you should kill the mexicans, but if they don't like their wages, GO BACK TO MEXICO!

wilkin250r
10-27-2007, 04:16 AM
Originally posted by Pappy
imagine two white kids on MTV after being publically known for being with 4 other white kids that beat a black youth to the ground.

And that's just it, right there.

Imagine if it was 6 white kids, and it wasn't racially motivated. Do you think Al Sharpton would let it go? Heck no, he would MAKE it a racial issue, and insist it be punished as a hate crime, and make an example of them.

Yet these black kids can be held up as heros?

Heck, let's take the race OUT of the issue. Since when did we start putting perpetrators of assult up on a pedestal?

Pappy
10-27-2007, 04:23 AM
You will never convince anyone to get race out of the issue, and I for one am tired of trying. The double standards that exist today are based on ignorance and god forbid anyone doubt motives. The black community is actually raising funds in the name of the jena 6 to make the world aware of the issue (for them, the issue is harsh punishment/bail amounts and the system biased against blacks)

All I saw on the video was 6 kids beating 1 kid, but now I see the black community embracing a group of thugs that should be doing time for assault. Out of the 6(all of which were shown beating this kid) only 1 is incarcerated.

<DRS>GPF
10-27-2007, 05:34 AM
Originally posted by jcv400ex
yes sir he is!! Racism would go away...if black activists would let it....


i agree 100%..

funny, i dont remember Al Sharptongue(or Jesse Jerkson) and the rest of his self serving posse being so vocal when Reginald Denney was in the media.:mad:



i recently was asked to explain a rope used for a swing, which had been in our tree for better than a year..
the board had fell out(probably taken out by my son) and it "appeared to be a noose"... albeit a very low looking noose at only 3' off of the ground.
i then had to explain to my kids, why the questions about the rope swing.

it truly was their first taste on the subject of racism.
until then it had never occurred to them, because i didnt let them know that some people have problems with the differences..
even after managing to keep my own few biases to myself, to avoid a pre-dispositioned opinion... (i hate lazy, no good, self serving, carpet-baggin politicians)

Hammer trx450r
10-27-2007, 06:53 AM
Originally posted by wizzade
People already do...Go to most any costruction job and look at all of the illegal mexicans. Most are payed less than minimum wage. Illegal aliens are modern day slaves.

The ones around here make a good living.

Pappy
10-27-2007, 07:00 AM
Originally posted by Hammer trx450r
The ones around here make a good living.

i made a black friend really upset when I told him last week that the Mexican immigrants have done more for themselves in the past 20 years then the blacks have in the past 200!

im no racist, i dislike people based on their actions and I realize Zjackson and Sharpton do not speak for every black american, BUT....they are the ones WE see!

quad2xtreme
10-27-2007, 07:52 AM
Bill Cosby knows best...blacks are holding themselves back due to black culture. It isn't the color of the skin...it is the culture.

Blacks chastise other blacks for succeeding in school, talk about treating their women as ho's, and wear baggy prison-like clothes on the street. Even black women entertainers talk about treating the women poorly and being ho's, etc. Bill knows best...black culture is the problem.

Hammer trx450r
10-27-2007, 08:07 AM
Originally posted by Pappy
i made a black friend really upset when I told him last week that the Mexican immigrants have done more for themselves in the past 20 years then the blacks have in the past 200!

im no racist, i dislike people based on their actions and I realize Zjackson and Sharpton do not speak for every black american, BUT....they are the ones WE see!

Remember how there were no jobs for them, yet we hired millions of workers that dont even speak the same language:p

Toadz400
10-27-2007, 10:00 AM
Has anyone taken any racial classes in college? My girlfiend is currently in a some sort of racial conflict class and all they do is talk about how whites are racist and bring down everyone else. It sucks because my girlfriend is blond haired, blue eyed and the only white person in the class, imagine how she feels! I seriously didn't believe her at first but when she brought home her book and assignments I was shocked. She's so afraid to actually speak her opinion so she's forced to go along with what they're saying in all her papers and assignments in fear of being called a racist, especially because of her physical appearance (I wouldn't doubt anyone calling her a neo-Nazi or something of that matter).

I personally hate what this country has become with a passion. It makes me sick to see all these things going on and it seems that no one can do anything to correct it because we'll be called racist, or communists, or terrorists. When will the time come to stop blaming everyone else and actually do something about the problems? Actually follow the law for what it says, not what we think it should say. If someone beats someone, persecute them! It doesn't matter what color of skin anyone has, persecute them for their crime!

Seriously, watch the episode of South Park titled "Cartman's Silly Hate Crime" . It's seriously an episode everyone should watch.

Badmammajamma
10-27-2007, 11:19 AM
Wow, I love you guys:)

I agree 100% with everything said. Seems like racism is getting reversed slowly but surely. Now its the white people being put down, who would have thought?

Oh yea, and can you imagine if there were a channel called "White Entertainment Television?" They would FLIP OUT!!!!!

reptikes
10-27-2007, 12:14 PM
I agree with the most part of what people on this thread are saying. Black Panthers and the Klan were nothing like each other though. The Pathers are a bunch of people sick of the bull**** and fighting back. While the Klan is a bunch of redneck bullies.
I'm white, but if i was one of the (Black) Jena 6 i would have shot that kid in both his hands. We may need to look at how lucky he really is.


What Man does not know, man fears.
What man fears, man destroys.

Pappy
10-27-2007, 12:16 PM
Originally posted by reptikes

I'm white, but if i was one of the (Black) Jena 6 i would have shot that kid in both his hands. You maybe we need to look at how lucky he really is.




exact;y why would he be shot ? he wasnt involved with the 7 month old issue the jena6 are claiming to be the cause of all this! it is the mere fact he was white !

reptikes
10-27-2007, 12:34 PM
Are you saying that the kid they beat up is not one of the kids who was involved in the noose hanging or the other fights they had with white kids?

Pappy
10-27-2007, 12:39 PM
Originally posted by reptikes
Are you saying that the kid they beat up is not one of the kids who was involved in the noose hanging or the other fights they had with white kids?

thats correct

Lgnrider424
10-27-2007, 01:33 PM
Originally posted by Pappy
thats correct
Actually the kid that was beaten was allegedy extremely vocal in supporting the noose hangers, and the reason the fight actually started was becuase he was taunting them with the infamous "N" word.

Lgnrider424
10-27-2007, 01:46 PM
I would also like to add that I was involved with a very similar incident myself about 2 months ago. Long story short, I was with 2 friends at a late night taco bell. One of my idiot friends made some stupid comment and crossed the line by using the n-word. The next thing I know the car is surrounded by about 10 large black males. So here I am, not racist at all, put in a racial situation that I have no true feelings about. Needless to say we got worked. My friend who made the comment got 6 stitches in his eye (he never got out of the car, the driver who also never made it out of the car had both eyes swollen completely shut, and I received the least with a broken nose and some bruises. No charges were ever filed. I was extremely angry initially, but the more I thought about it the more I was thankful no one was killed. My point is, don’t under estimate the power of words. They’re not worth losing a life over.

Pappy
10-27-2007, 01:48 PM
Originally posted by Lgnrider424
Actually the kid that was beaten was allegedy extremely vocal in supporting the noose hangers, and the reason the fight actually started was becuase he was taunting them with the infamous "N" word.

alledgedly? supporting.....not commiting

and to justify a 6 on 1 beating over a name......please.

wizzade
10-27-2007, 01:56 PM
Originally posted by Badmammajamma
Oh yea, and can you imagine if there were a channel called "White Entertainment Television?" They would FLIP OUT!!!!!

That would be "WET" sounds like a porn channel LOL

quadracer707
10-27-2007, 02:25 PM
Along with this thread on racisum, My son just moved down to Orlando to go to MMI, The people he moved next door are white americans also. The wife applied to a 7-11 for a clerk position after working in a convience store in Ohio for several years(lots of experience), she was not hired because she was not bi-lingual. This is America, not HIRED because she cant speak spanish, where are the Racists of the world now?? Discremenation???

Best bumper sticker I saw in along time last week
I will forgive Jane Fonda, when the Jews forgive HITLER

Just my 2cents

Ken

Wades DAD

660bigdaddy
10-27-2007, 02:38 PM
i don't believe the race issue will ever end. same with the gays. some of us will never except what the media/politicians are trying to force feed us, unless there comes a time and day when we are considered the less fortunate poor white folk.... jmo

reptikes
10-27-2007, 02:51 PM
For every action there is a reaction. If you can't deal with the reaction you should think before commiting yourself to taking the first step.

Pappy
10-27-2007, 02:54 PM
Originally posted by reptikes
For every action there is a reaction. If you can't deal with the reaction you should think before committing yourself to taking the first step.

so your cool with 6 young men beating 1 young man to unconsciousness?

so the next time i am called a cracker or a spanish insult i can just draw my 45 and drop them?

and the correct qoute is "for every action, there is an EQUAL and OPPOSITE reaction" in this case, possibly a name was mentioned (action) and the (reaction) was a beating that could have led to death.

Hey im cool with that, i will start loading clips now, let it begin, bout time right?

reptikes
10-27-2007, 03:35 PM
No i'm not cool with 6 guys beating on 1 guy. At the same time Pappy, i have lived a different lifestlye than most people. And respect is a big part of why i believe things should be a certain way or why i would react a certian way. I watched my boy get jumped by 5 guys and 2 chicks and did nothing because he was in the wrong. I told him before hand i wasn't going to have his back. Did he deserve to get jumped NO, but that was the reaction to his action. I understand your piont of view Pappy, its the way the majority of people feel. I just happen to have different views and beliefs.

And by the way, my brother just got out of jail 6 months ago for jumping a guy with my boy mentioned above. They beat him unconsciousness, the proceded to brake bear bottles over his face and kick him in the face while he lay there unconsciousness. They were EXSTREMELY out of line. He had to get all kinds of surgery to correct his face. And it was all over my boy owing the guy money and the guy asked him for it. That was wrong no matter how you look at it.

Pappy
10-27-2007, 03:47 PM
living a different lifestyle doesnt lead credence to jumping anyone, your reply seems conflicted (thats not being critical, just an observation)

take your 2nd example, how would you feel if the two guys who beat your brother showed up on the tv being touted as oppressed and wronged by the system(an entertainment show at that) and then for them (these 2 thugs from jena6)to be given the red carpet treatment. it has ziltch to do with them being black, oppressed or wronged, they were there because they were known for the beating they assisted in!

educated blacks are speaking out against it, but you wont see much of that. david bowie and many other white musicians are helping raise money for the awareness of the issue where in the blacks are being treated unfairly...get my point? hell, many blacks are upset 50 cent and the like arent handing money over for it!

im sorry black america....you have helped ruin our country just a little bit more. and to the white people claiming the stomping was not that bad because they had tennis shoes on...PAAALLLEEEZZEEEE! its a damn discrace to read alot of whats going on about this issue!

and the US States Attorney charged with investigating this has stated publically that the noose incident and the beating have no evidence or proof of being connected.

FreekShow
10-27-2007, 03:50 PM
AMEN Pappy....

gncc025
10-27-2007, 04:29 PM
Originally posted by Pappy
and to the white people claiming the stomping was not that bad because they had tennis shoes on...PAAALLLEEEZZEEEE!
.

LMAO, first ive heard of this. truly pathetic

416exfreak
10-27-2007, 06:59 PM
The bottom line in this whole subject is this: If 6 white boys would have beat the sh1t out of a n*gger, then they would all be in jail charged with assualt and battery, hate crimes etc.
But since 6 n*ggers jumped on one white kid, noone cares. The black community embraces them, and supports them.

We need to go back in time about 150 years. We had a good solution to these type of problems back then. Know how I know this? Because we didnt have these problems back then. Blacks in the 1800's knew if they even thought about hurting a white person, they would be hanging in an oak tree. And personally, for those 6 boys, thats exactly what they need.

reptikes
10-27-2007, 07:06 PM
416exfreak how about we hang your fa@@it ***** from a tree.

450raider
10-27-2007, 07:28 PM
im not tryin no feudin but ill give my quick take f*** the J6, f*** AS, f*** JJ (they are for sure hellbound anyway), f*** the mex's, and lastly f*** all the crackheads of this country (any race, size, ect.) that are capable of working (and having 20 kids) but rape the government of our taxes and healthcare just because their brain is fried from snortin to begin with and hell the cops never do anything with them but arrest them week after week and let em go becasue they dont even think their worth they money to keep em in jail so their our problem forever and to be honest you got evryone migating north for a "better life" well if the new president dont fix things and pronto i may migrate to canada for a better life.

and that is my take