4:1 douglas wheel offset

[WB450r]

im lookin at gettin +3 long travel a arms and needing sum front wheels and tires...
i would like to get the douglas conventional center wheel if not the douglas red label (.190, i believe)...

i cant find anywhere to get the 4:1 wheel offset in these two kinds of wheels..
ive checked rockymountain and motosport...

where can i get these at for a reasonable price...

THANX

[mcleod]

4:1 are discontinued ( here in canada )

i think it's should be the same in your area!

you should check for some 3:2!

[mx1791]

KandKatv.com sells 4-1's

[400exrider707]

4:1's are not discontinuted, they are one of the most popular MX wheels. You cant get red labels or standard wheels in 4:1 offsets, only rolled lip and beadlocks for strength reasons. Even with 4:1's and +3's you will have a tough time fitting under 50"s wide.

[lj450r]

I have +3 arms with 4-1 rims and i am at 49". 3-2 rims would put me at 51".

[400exrider707]

Originally posted by lj450r
I have +3 arms with 4-1 rims and i am at 49". 3-2 rims would put me at 51".

Suspension also plays a role, did you measure this with you sitting on the quad? Also what is your camber set at, that too plays a role.

[WB450r]

THANX for all the replys...

im gettin the smc +3 LT and motowoz suspension setup btw...
and the 4:1 douglas conventional center....
so this should put me at 49 inches or do i have to change the ride height...
how many inches will it sit if i dont change the ride height??

THANX

[Flynbryan19]

Wait for someone else to chime in and verify this, but I believe that Douglas ultimate 4/1's are really more like 3.5/1.5's. I believe the only true 4/1 is the Douglas Shamrock beadlocks.

[mx1791]

i fit through the gate fine. i have smc +3s with 4-1 douglas's and the ride height on my axis is set pretty low

[lj450r]

same with PEP ZPS. no problem fitting though the gate.

[WB450r]

Originally posted by mx1791
i fit through the gate fine. i have smc +3s with 4-1 douglas's and the ride height on my axis is set pretty low

wht kind of douglas wheels do u have....
do u have a pic of ur quad?

[mx1791]

4-1 rolled lip conventional douglas's or w/e there called lol

its mad old, but this is all i have showing my rims in photo bucket
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h125/cbasil_2006/sexy4.jpg

[WB450r]

Originally posted by mx1791
4-1 rolled lip conventional douglas's or w/e there called lol

its mad old, but this is all i have showing my rims in photo bucket
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h125/cbasil_2006/sexy4.jpg

aight cool...thts jus wht i was lookin for...
do alot of mx riders use these or do use sumthin other ...besides hiper...
also r these wheels very strong and durable...

THANX

[WB450r]

Originally posted by mx1791
4-1 rolled lip conventional douglas's or w/e there called lol

its mad old, but this is all i have showing my rims in photo bucket
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h125/cbasil_2006/sexy4.jpg

aight cool...thats jus what i was lookin for...
do alot of mx riders use these or any other...besides hiper...
r these wheels really strong and durable..

THANX

[mx1791]

tons of mx'ers use these. alot of pros run them, too. and yes they are really strong

[400exrider707]

Yes they're stronger than say a standard .190 rim, but they are still aluminum and they will bend... Pros can get new ones every race if they have to. Hipers are the way to go IMO.

[mx1791]

ive never seen anyone bend a douglas rolled lip front, but ive seen atleast 3 sets of front hipers crack, and even more rear ones shatter.

[400exrider707]

Originally posted by mx1791
ive never seen anyone bend a douglas rolled lip front, but ive seen atleast 3 sets of front hipers crack, and even more rear ones shatter.

I hardly see straight aluminum rims anymore, some are bent minor enough that most people never notice, but they are metal and once they stress beyond yielding point they bend and stay that way, where a hiper would just flex, eventually breaking. I've only seen a picture of one broken hiper and it was the old design front wheel, and I saw it on here, never seen one in real life ever, and most who say they have seen them have no proof. Do you have any pictures of them? Not saying you didn't see it, but I would love to see some pics of broken hipers. Also if you break a hiper you can just replace that one section that is broke, instead of replacing an entire wheel like a douglas or ITP.

[mx1791]

i can try to get some pics of my friends brokens hipers. i have 3 friends who all broke them, ive seen other break, but me not knowing the people personally, i cant get your pictures lol. ill see what i can find and or take pictures of