What is missing from the ATV industry?

[Z400central]

What service (not product) is missing in the ATV industry you feel? Like, looking at NASCAR, could this industry be that big? What is holding it back?

What would you like to see happen?

[gncc025]

MORE TV COVERAGE!!!!:mad:

[trx400EXtreme]

exposure...... WE NEED MORE!!!

A baby like face, like mine, to promote good morals and talk about the atv industry.

[JOEX]

Originally posted by trx400EXtreme
exposure...... WE NEED MORE!!!
More positive exposure;)

[jesseweaver]

more tracks!

[JJs450r]

all those sound good but thinkin on a nascar level what about big sponsors like budlight budwiser pepsi coke and all that good stuff the big names

[m.h.s.c.#527]

x2 ^

[Nac's22]

pretty much everything that was said before

[cbrooks118]

yea more corporate sponsers like Viagra. They could be ONE UP Racing. LOL

I dont understand how so many people like nascar when all they make are one way turns, but dont like ATV racing which is much more exciting.

[wilkin250r]

TV executives aren't stupid. The reason you don't get the TV coverage is because nobody is interested. More coverage isn't going to change that, it's not going to MAKE people interested.


Honestly, you know what would work? It sounds really stupid...



A movie. A real honest block-buster movie about quads, racing, and the like.



Think about last Halloween, how many people did you see dressed as pirates? Like almost half. All because of a movie. I think a movie about ATVs would be a LOT harder to pull off, but if it could be done, the sport would skyrocket.

[smr]

Originally posted by wilkin250r
TV executives aren't stupid. The reason you don't get the TV coverage is because nobody is interested. More coverage isn't going to change that, it's not going to MAKE people interested.


Honestly, you know what would work? It sounds really stupid...



A movie. A real honest block-buster movie about quads, racing, and the like.



Think about last Halloween, how many people did you see dressed as pirates? Like almost half. All because of a movie. I think a movie about ATVs would be a LOT harder to pull off, but if it could be done, the sport would skyrocket.

wilkin250r...you are 100% correct. I have thought the same thing so many times. A movie about the Ballance Brothers or Jerimiah Jones would be awesome. It would take our sport to a new level much like Rad did BMX or Hotdogs did skiing. Even Rambo caused recruiting to go up.

[yellowzo3]

I think a movie would just end up like fast and the furious with thousands of retards riding around like theyre pro's getting hurt and giving quads a worse reputation then what they already have. I agree with JJ that we need bigtime sponsors to help the sport grow. I dont know about you guys but I kinda like the small town feel of quads...everyone seems to be friendlier and it just seems more tight knit. I agree that the sport needs more recognition and places to ride, but it would be a shame to lose the sense of community we have now.

[Ron89]

Originally posted by yellowzo3
I think a movie would just end up like fast and the furious with thousands of retards riding around like theyre pro's getting hurt and giving quads a worse reputation then what they already have.
The sad thing is it's already at that point. Everyone I've ever seen in real life that rides brags all day long about how good they are. Then you go to see them ride and laugh. There are too many dumb and ignorant kids in this sport that ride just to be part of the scene. Now I see kids wearing those retarded flat-billed fox hats and other clothes by fox etc..just so they can brag about how they are sponsored by 3 million companies or going pro this year. What ever... This sport is full of hard *****es that need to have respect for where and what they ride, instead of getting caught up in the glamor of it.

[gncc025]

Originally posted by wilkin250r
TV executives aren't stupid. The reason you don't get the TV coverage is because nobody is interested. More coverage isn't going to change that, it's not going to MAKE people interested.


i see your point wilkin, but i think the reason most people aren't interested is because theyve never even seen a race! with more tv coverage, people that thought they cared nothing about atvs or atv racing might change their mind after they catch john natalie and doug gust battle it out on a mx track. im just saying i cant help but think that more tv coverage would help boost atv racing popularity

[honda8&3]

Originally posted by JOEX
More positive exposure;)

Exactly not hearing about people wearing NO HELMETS getting critically injured or killed. Remember quads don't kill people dumbarses who ride with no protective gear insanely kill themselves on quads.

[trx400EXtreme]

Originally posted by JOEX
More positive exposure;) ahhhh.... true dat.

One word, Supercross.

Thats where its at. Supercross takes places in stadiums in cities. People will go to that, there not gonna drive 4 hours away to like unadilla or something.

And if they was a move made it would have to be like the movie "Supercross". If someone puts out a legit quad racing movie, not dumbing it down for normal or adding in drama, no ones gonna care and watch it.

[xsr_racing28c]

I think your idea of an indoor pro level supercross series would be a good way to expose more people to the sport but then again, whats holding everyone back from viewing the national circuit?

The industry has come a long way in the last 2-3 years bringing in large sponsors like Monster, Rockstar and more factory backing. I still think there isn't enough push though for our younger riders to take is as serious because there doesn't seem to be the huge opportunities like you'd see in AMA motocross with sponsors and money potential.

I think we've got a good start and I believe the sport is progessing nicely. It will take time to get as big as AMA motocross, or even nascar but I think with time quad racing will be viewed by many on a regular basis...

~Jay

[ZSNOW]

i think that super cross style stuff would help, but the first few races i don't even think u could find enough people to pay for the stadium, i mean look how long it took super cross to even come up for bikes....

Supercross is what made bike motocross what it is today. Supercross and a Jeremy McGrath

[cbrooks118]

Originally posted by nofearrider1
Supercross is what made bike motocross what it is today. upercross and a Jeremy McGrath

Mcgrath did it for me! I watched all the time on espn2 and other obscure channels as a younger man

[infantry317]

Supercross, The Movie :tired:

Good luck getting a truly good ATV movie, maybe if Dana Brown/Wes-H-Bomb/Akraix collaborated they could come up with something awesome.

Still, how the **** are you going to get it into theatres, if you have any big name actors, it will be joke.

ESPN had very good feedback from the outdoor games when they had it on in primetime (There's the key, on weeknights when people are bored and flipping channels). So its gonna take sponsors with deep pockets.

[jrwisehart]

I think if they would add us to the x-games next year it would do wonders for our sport.

[STEVENJANNA]

Baby steps fella's

This is a perfect example of how the sport is growing.

http://www.mytundralife.com/hunter.html

And Yes Supercross is the answer. Tight, action packed, adrenalized, high flying racing that can catch and release the attention of the casual spectator.

It can definitely be done, here is an example

http://www.montrealmotocross.com/Video.aspx?en=1&no=75

[cbrooks118]

i agree with adding it to the xgames. What about a tv show, like they did on the "Krusty" guys? guy to go race in the pro circuit?

Also they should have a rebuild show, like HORSEPOWER or extreme 4x4 on the powerblock. I dont build muscle cars (yet) but i enjoy watching those shows on spike

[yellow400ex05]

Originally posted by Ron89
The sad thing is it's already at that point. Everyone I've ever seen in real life that rides brags all day long about how good they are. Then you go to see them ride and laugh. There are too many dumb and ignorant kids in this sport that ride just to be part of the scene. Now I see kids wearing those retarded flat-billed fox hats and other clothes by fox etc..just so they can brag about how they are sponsored by 3 million companies or going pro this year. What ever... This sport is full of hard *****es that need to have respect for where and what they ride, instead of getting caught up in the glamor of it.

Exactly the thing, I have a similar problem at my high school, all these people wear the clothes, so much that I don't even bother asking if they ride , because half the time its a big bore sport quad or utility and if I told them I had a 400ex they'd tell me their 500 foreman would smoke me. And theres one kid who calls quad riders *** wheelers in school and he races dirtbikes, and says he's passed Jason Dunkelberger on a track before , and he asked if he was like a pro or something, and I said umm yea, and I doubt a maybe C class dirtbike racer who rides a kxf450 passed him whos a pro A class rider.

[jesseweaver]

Motorama in harrisburg every february is an atv supercross track. its not a big track, they have a really small arena, but they always get a good turnout. it would be a lot nicer in a bigger arena.

[SRH]

i think running the pro quads on the bike weekend would break the monotiny(sp?) of the weekend plus spark new intrest, and if they could do that with supercross that will help even more then we need our mags to hype up the riders, not the new 4x4 coming out, we need race coverage slowly interest will grow

[jesseweaver]

or just start putting on fmx demos at all of the red bull x fighters, and stuff like that. also, maybe run small races at the dirtbike supercross races, in between motos cause there will be a lot of people there.

[infantry317]

It would be pretty cool if they could do a "making the cut" kinda show with Yosh/Suzuki, Monster/Kawasaki or Factory Yamaha [we all know Honda can't think outside the box (I have owned many Hondas and do like Honda, just don't think they EVER gamble)] . Ya know have some Pro Am guys and maybe some local wildcards trying to get on a team. Maybe Versus, Spike or Speed would possibly do a show like that.

[MX MaNiAc 06]

The atv industry needs ME as a pro!

On a serious note, i think the sport is progressing pretty good!! Im not sure how much farther the freestyle aspect of atvs can go!! Quads do all the same tricks that bikes do.

Motocross has plenty of room for improvement.

More supercross races would deffinately help.

[jesseweaver]

there is still a long way to go in fmx. the long distance record is still under 200 feet. onle like 5 guys have backflipped. the backflip variations will start soon, and if the put qfmx in the xgames it will take off.

[criminalpoet]

Yea television is definitely where its at. It would be cool to maybe see a small freestyle event during the halftime of a big football game. That accompanied by a few commercials advertising the next big televised quad race should spark some interest. And given the amount of people that watch football it would be putting quads and quad racing in the faces of millions of people that already have a thirst for competitive sports.

The ATV/quad racing industry needs to take advantage of the marketing opportunities via the audience of already established sports and their fans. Anybody that is a fan of extremely competitive sports WILL love quad racing. Kinda makes me wonder how much of a boost in sales H-Bomb films would get by airing a commercial for Huevos 10 during a UFC event lol. In the commercial show scenes from the chapter that shows people eating chit lol, and throwing a backflip on a quad. You cant tell me that, that wouldnt appeal to UFC fans hehhehheh.

There are a lot of ways to blow up the sport of quad racing and further boost the sales of ATVs in general. But it requires going out on a limb and spending some serious money on advertising, intelligent advertising that is.

[hsr]

More media exposure is obvious but... a stronger youth and amateur scene would be beneficial. There needs to be affordable, race-ready mini quads that mimmick that of the bike world. For example...a mini-bike rider can go from a 50, to a 65, to an 85, to a 125, so on and so forth , and the bikes are relatively cheap to buy and maintain. It's hard for families to afford to "build" a mini race quad out of an overweight and outdated trx90 or 300ex. I think the next racer we will see is the generation of 250f quads.

[criminalpoet]

Also what the ATV industry needs is a brand new TRX250r!

[MX MaNiAc 06]

Originally posted by criminalpoet
Yea television is definitely where its at. It would be cool to maybe see a small freestyle event during the halftime of a big football game. That accompanied by a few commercials advertising the next big televised quad race should spark some interest. And given the amount of people that watch football it would be putting quads and quad racing in the faces of millions of people that already have a thirst for competitive sports.


There wouldnt be any field left for the second half! haha