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XXXRACER165
07-17-2007, 09:21 AM
I just raced my dads 2006 HRC 450R with my 440EX, we both have Trail Tech Endurance speedos programed perfectly to our wheel size so they are identical. We both ran a top speed of 73mph. Wind was not a factor and the quads both have stock gearing. I thought the 450's ran close to 80mph:confused:

hornetgod13
07-17-2007, 09:30 AM
What matters more to you, top speed or low end torque? If you want more speed go up one tooth on your front sprocket. Rear wheel size is a factor as well. I have a stock motor with a bunch of aftermarket bolt ons with stock 15/39 sprockets and 20" rear tires. I got mine up to 68.7 mph and I weigh 235 lbs.

XXXRACER165
07-17-2007, 09:41 AM
Low end for sure. I just thought the 450 would be alot faster than that.

07250ex
07-17-2007, 10:46 AM
Originally posted by XXXRACER165
Low end for sure. I just thought the 450 would be alot faster than that.

maybe he was in 4th gear :huh nah just because there not much faster top end which ones gonna get their quicker?

CHEVYZ
07-17-2007, 11:03 AM
That is....strange. Your 400EX shouldn't be around the same top speed as the 450. Hell, my 05 450r can walk a wheelie away from topped out EX, and my 06 is (or was) faster on the topside by far. I dunno?

EX LONERIDER
07-17-2007, 11:51 AM
elevation, engine condition, drag, all sorts of other little fun factors play into top speed. wind resistance is always a factor. wind will hit the bikes at diffrent places causing diffrent wind drag points. you still gotta tunnel the air you are pushing. as mentioned, top speed can be the same but how fast it gets there may be a diffrent issue.

mitchamus
07-17-2007, 12:44 PM
Originally posted by CHEVYZ
That is....strange. Your 400EX shouldn't be around the same top speed as the 450. Hell, my 05 450r can walk a wheelie away from topped out EX, and my 06 is (or was) faster on the topside by far. I dunno?

He noted he had a 440 kit on his 400ex.

CHEVYZ
07-17-2007, 01:14 PM
It shouldn't change top speed. But in any case, mine is also a 440 (with the works) for reference....

H_W
07-17-2007, 01:32 PM
Originally posted by CHEVYZ
It shouldn't change top speed. But in any case, mine is also a 440 (with the works) for reference....

You are right, but he did not say what his gearing was or his rear tire size.

CHEVYZ
07-17-2007, 01:52 PM
Just for everyone to see, he said here that both were running stock gearing, and in an earlier post said that he was running 20x11x9 Holeshot (rears) on his 400EX. I assume that the tires on the 450r are stock? Is that right?

H_W
07-17-2007, 03:23 PM
I missed the part where he said they both had stock gearing. I re-read it and sure enough there it was. My bad.

XXXRACER165
07-17-2007, 04:01 PM
Tires yes are stock

gcart2
07-17-2007, 04:38 PM
why r u questioning all this? u have a 440ex that runs with a 450r! u should be happy. rub it in all faces that you built your 440 right!

07-17-2007, 10:41 PM
450R is the fastest 450 out right now. My friends dad has the Honda 450R, my friend has the YFZ450 and my friends borther has the LTZ450. The Suzuki is the slowest by far and the 450r can S*** on all 3. I thought the YFZ was fastest but no! We drag race often my 400 vs my friends YFZ450 and once he hits that last gear he is gone and I am topped out doing 72MPH with a stock motor. So 450's run around 80MPH

H_W
07-18-2007, 06:51 AM
Originally posted by FoxHondaRider
We drag race often my 400 vs my friends YFZ450 and once he hits that last gear he is gone

I just wanted to make sure I am reading this right, you are saying that a stock 400ex will keep up with a yfz450 until it hits 5th gear. Either you have the fastest stock 400ex ever built or your friend is not very good at drag racing.

vett_09
07-18-2007, 07:58 AM
Originally posted by H_W
I just wanted to make sure I am reading this right, you are saying that a stock 400ex will keep up with a yfz450 until it hits 5th gear. Either you have the fastest stock 400ex ever built or your friend is not very good at drag racing.

X2

REDRIDDER
07-18-2007, 09:10 AM
Originally posted by vett_09
X2 x3 lol...

gcart2
07-18-2007, 09:23 AM
Originally posted by REDRIDDER
x3 lol...
x4.
that is bs

07-18-2007, 09:36 AM
lol well we think its stock, I bought it used and it only had about 10 hrs on it it was like new. The guy never said anything about having something done to the engine, I'm thinking Cam because I rag on my brothers 400ex and he has a pipe and everything. He wll get me in top speed but I am fast in a drag. Maybe its the way I ride.

H_W
07-18-2007, 02:11 PM
Swap quads and race, then you will see the light.

07-18-2007, 02:14 PM
yeah he isnt the fastest rider, if i'm on the trails or racing around the track and i'm stuck behind him i'm riding about 2ft vbehind him trying to push him up. Passing in the woods is hard lol