ford lightning woww

[440bigborekit]

well i got my licene and everything today so we went out looking for a truck and came across a 1999 f-150 lightning and we took it for a test drive and my dad let me drive it when we got down the street and omgggg that was a fast arse truck lol hes realy intrested in getting it for me and im going to have to work it off and pay it all back hopefully it goes through the truck was black with two tone interior white and black and boy did she whistle lol well im jus excited and figured id share the good news with you guys

[gncc025]

Lucky lucky lucky. U gotta love dem lightnings :D Super Charger sounds wicked

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[07250ex]

sweet dude i cant wait till i can drive

[quadwanter]

lightenings are really bad arse....especially if you upgrade the pullies. if you are alright with getting 8mpg get this truck..but im not joking thats all they will get, they have a huge engine that loves gas :eek2:

[Ghost-Rider]

Supercharged 5.4 L

We drove a cobra once them chargers scream.

[Ghost-Rider]

Had a video with a lightning but its not working so here ill give ya this and try and find that one with the trucks.

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[Wired]

i had a lightning last year for about 6 months. fun trucks but man their gas hogs!

[400exrider707]

Originally posted by Ghost-Rider
Supercharged 5.4 L

We drove a cobra once them chargers scream.


The cobras are only 4.6 motors.

Cobra R's are 5.4 but they are super rare and every expensive... they dont even come with a radio, and they have full roll cages.

[54warrior]

He says it's for you, but you'll probably end up having to let him drive it when he wants!!! That's the only F-150 I'd own.

[N300exJ]

Just find out whether or not its had a frame recall done yet. There is an updated frame for all lightnings since the original design twists in half. isnt power great?


My dad worked for a ford dealer for almost 20 years. I know all kinds of recalls for ford vehicles. thats why i wont drive em.

[naw0029]

Do your self a favor and go to nloc.net and introduce your self the all us guys on the bord, i have had my L for almost 3 years now and i dont think i will ever sell it!!!!!!!!

[ZWILLETT47]

Originally posted by naw0029
Do your self a favor and go to nloc.net and introduce your self the all us guys on the bord, i have had my L for almost 3 years now and i dont think i will ever sell it!!!!!!!!


Ha I got you beat...I've own a Ligthing for 13 years and have two of them now 1993 red 2004 black....GREAT TRUCKS!

[Ghost-Rider]

Originally posted by 400exrider707
The cobras are only 4.6 motors.

Cobra R's are 5.4 but they are super rare and every expensive... they dont even come with a radio, and they have full roll cages.

GT = 4.6

SVT = 5.4

[400exrider707]

Originally posted by Ghost-Rider
GT = 4.6

SVT = 5.4

No, both 4.6's cobra is supercharged.. GT is not. The mach 1s are 4.6's as well but 4 valves per cylinder not 2 like the others.

[Ghost-Rider]

From Fords website.

Mustang V6
4.0L SOHC 12V V6



Mustang GT
4.6L OHV 24V V8


Shelby GT500
5.4L DOHC 32V V8

[Ghost-Rider]

We have owned a GT and a Cobra. the GT was a 4.6 and the Cobra was a supercharged 5.4 the same as the lightning.

[400exrider707]

Originally posted by Ghost-Rider
From Fords website.

Mustang V6
4.0L SOHC 12V V6



Mustang GT
4.6L OHV 24V V8


Shelby GT500
5.4L DOHC 32V V8

I was referring to the older models, I was unaware the new ones had 5.4's

The only other ones were Cobra R's which there was only 300 produced of and it had less power than the 4.6 supercharger motors anyways.

I'll have to go check out the new one right now... hehe:cool:

[400exrider707]

Also that isn't even a cobra you posted... its a gt500 thats not technically a cobra...;)

[Ghost-Rider]

Well im just saying. We have had a 98 Gt ( was a 4.6) and a 99 Cobra ( Supercharged 5.4) Ford would never supercharge the 4.6

[400exrider707]

Originally posted by Ghost-Rider
Well im just saying. We have had a 98 Gt ( was a 4.6) and a 99 Cobra ( Supercharged 5.4) Ford would never supercharge the 4.6


your 99 was a 4.6 bud. they were 320hp and 317lb ft. the only year the cobra came with a 5.4 was 2000 and it was the cobra R only which 300 of were produced. They made supercharged 4.6's

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Mustang_SVT_Cobra#Cobra_R_2

[Ghost-Rider]

Nope. Early 90's they were the 5.0L then eventually went to the 5.4, Although they wern't all supercharged a couple odd years were.

[400exrider707]

Originally posted by Ghost-Rider
Nope. Early 90's they were the 5.0L then eventually went to the 5.4, Although they wern't all supercharged a couple odd years were.

I dont think you understand.. the only 5.4 offered in the mustangs were the cobra Rs and there are only 300 in existence. the 5.4 was not offered in 99. the 2000 cobra R was the only mustang with the 5.4 Early 90s yes were 5.0s

the base cobras only came with 5.0s early on or 4.6s later years.

The R cobras... 1995 was 5.8
2000 was 5.4 Thats it!

[Ghost-Rider]

LoL this is going to go on forever.They supercharged a couple years because they dont make them every year.Not to mention around 97 or maybe even later they had a problem with them being underpowered.So they made them a ltitle bigger than they say so they cant be underpowered.They also had a problem with the trans in the newer style.They had about 200+ at my dads plant for new trans.although the trans has nothing to do with our debate.

[Ghost-Rider]

I reread what your saying and im not saying there were no 4.6 but that there were a few 5.4L

[400exrider707]

Originally posted by Ghost-Rider
I reread what your saying and im not saying there were no 4.6 but that there were a few 5.4L

I'm saying the only 5.4 ever offered in a cobra was the 2000 cobra R. Your 99 did not have a 5.4

[Ghost-Rider]

Prehaps it was a 00 not a 99 then because i know for a fact it had a 5.4

[whiteboycustom]

see if this helps any!!!!!


The 2000 Ford SVT Mustang Cobra R, wearing its production Performance Red paint, was displayed for the first time at the Specialty Equipment Market Association's (SEMA) annual convention. Built with the race track in mind, the Cobra R features a 5.4L 32-valve V8 engine, solidifying the modular family of engines as the high-performance benchmark in Ford's lineup. The Cobra R V8 produces an estimated 385 horsepower and 385 foot pounds of torque. In order to keep this power on the ground, the Cobra R features exterior enhancements including a front air-splitter and tall rear deck spoiler, which create downforce for increased stability at track speeds.

Other differences to the Cobra R include the "power dome" hood, which was required in order to fit over the Cobra R's unique intake manifold. The Cobra R rides on 18-inch wheels shod with BFGoodrich g-Force KD tires, and a lowered suspension for enhanced handling.

Cobra R's interior changes include the addition of Recaro sport seats, and the removal of the radio, air-conditioner and back seat to save weight. A number of well-respected performance parts suppliers are working with SVT in the development of the Cobra R, including Brembo for the front brake rotors and calipers, Tremec for the 6-speed transmission, Eibach and Bilstein for suspension, and Borla for the exhaust.

There were a limited production of only 300 Cobra R models built in spring 2000, on the same line of the Dearborn Assembly Plant which produces the V6, GT, and Cobra Mustangs. The 2000 model is the third generation of the Cobra R, following the successful and still sought-after 1993 and 1995 Cobra R models.

The debut Cobra R, the 1993 model, was introduced as a competition package, and included unique wheels, suspension and cooling upgrades, chassis bracing and a higher-output version of the 5.0L HO V8 engine found in the '93 Cobra. Just 107 '93 Cobra Rs were produced.

The 1995 Cobra R (250 produced) was also a competition package, and featured a higher-output version of the 5.8 Windsor V8 engine, an upgraded cooling system, the Tremec 5-speed transmission, unique suspension tuning and 17 x 9-inch wheels.

[400exrider707]

Having a 2000 cobra R is a pretty rare feat, like I said there were only 300 made world wide... they didn't have radios, they didn't have heat, they didn't have A/C. They are extremely rare, and go for a LOT of money, you would know if you had one. The humongous wing and the front air splitter are dead give aways. They also had the famous "bubble" hood to stuff the larger motor underneath. They are technically street legal and they are terrible to drive on the street. They are basically a street legal race car. If you had one you would know...


They did not supercharge these cars either, they are NA 385 horses.

The 03/04 cobras with the SC 4.6 made more horsepower, but were not as "track ready" as this R was.

If you did in fact have a cobra R consider yourself lucky, but I doubt you did...:ermm:

[Ghost-Rider]

I know we didn't have an R, that would have been sweet but now them things cost a ton as well.but while on the topic of i love this concept.

[400exrider707]

Originally posted by Ghost-Rider
I know we didn't have an R, that would have been sweet but now them things cost a ton as well.but while on the topic of i love this concept.


Yes very cool looking... needs a little grill or something up in the front...looks opened up like crazy!

[ZWILLETT47]

The Lightings I have are 5.4s both 93 and 04.

The only difference is the 04 has alot more ponies......440hp

380 stock + K&N = 400 plus chip = 440hps can't keep rear tires on it......

[D Bergstrom]

Lightnings are sweet trucks, to bad Ford does not make them anymore.:( I always wished they would make a 4x4 quad cab with the Lightning motor in it.:D

As far as what motors are in mustangs, the only mustangs to EVER offer a 5.4 are the 2000 Cobra R, and the new GT500.

All GT's since 1996 have a 4.6 two valve (Excpet the 2005 and newer, they have a 4.6 three valve.) All 1995 and older GT's have the 5.0. (Not sure of the first year of the 5.0, I think is was around 1984.)

All Mustang Cobra's since 1996 have had a 4.6 four valve engine in them. (Ford did not produce any Cobra's in the 2000 and 2002 model year.) The 2003 and 2004 Cobra's were supercharged. The new GT500 is also supercharged, but as stated before, it is a 5.4. The last year that Ford offered a Cobra was 2004. The new GT500 is technically not a Cobra, but it is still built by SVT I believe.

I have a 2003 Cobra, car is a blast to drive.

Doug

[naw0029]

Originally posted by ZWILLETT47
Ha I got you beat...I've own a Ligthing for 13 years and have two of them now 1993 red 2004 black....GREAT TRUCKS!

Yea you got me beat but i have only had my lisense for 2.5 years and im only 19. I got the truck about 7 months before i got my lisense just because i had the money and i wanted all of my friends to wish it was theres. Its been my one and only truck and i dont see myself getting rid of it any time soon!!! But like i said for some alsome and informative guys go to www.nloc.net and join it will be your best move.

[naw0029]

Originally posted by ZWILLETT47
Ha I got you beat...I've own a Ligthing for 13 years and have two of them now 1993 red 2004 black....GREAT TRUCKS!

Yea you got me beat but i have only had my lisense for 2.5 years and im only 19. I got the truck about 7 months before i got my lisense just because i had the money and i wanted all of my friends to wish it was theres. Its been my one and only truck and i dont see myself getting rid of it any time soon!!! But like i said for some alsome and informative guys go to www.nloc.net and join it will be your best move.

[1fastR]

Originally posted by Ghost-Rider
Prehaps it was a 00 not a 99 then because i know for a fact it had a 5.4

you really think your mustang cobra had a 5.4L motor

wow your crazy:o

[400exrider707]

Originally posted by ZWILLETT47
The Lightings I have are 5.4s both 93 and 04.

The only difference is the 04 has alot more ponies......440hp

380 stock + K&N = 400 plus chip = 440hps can't keep rear tires on it......

Ok here we go again, your 93 has a 5.8 naturally aspirated, the 04 has a 5.4 supercharged, big difference....

the 5.4 motor didn't even come out til 97 I believe. The old one is the 351 motor. I believe the lightnings had the 351W but not positive on that, but I do know for a fact it wasn't a 5.4.... how long have you owned the truck? :p

[440bigborekit]

ok let me strighten this up these are the real numbers

99-04 lightning = blown 5.4L

2003-2004 stang cobra svt = blown 4.6L

older lightning = natural 5.8 L

1999-2002 stang cobra = natural 4.6L

1999-2000 cobra R = 5.4L very raree and $$$$$

[gncc025]

Originally posted by 440bigborekit
1999-2000 cobra R = blown 5.4L very raree and $$$$$

this is the only thing i disagree with u on.
no supercharger for the Rs

Engine Configuration V
Cylinders 8
Hydraulic valve lifters
Aspiration/Induction Normal <----------
Displacement 5409.00 cc | 330.1 cu in. | 5.4 L.
Valvetrain DOHC
Horsepower 385.00 BHP (283.4 KW) @ 5700.00 RPM
Torque 385.00 Ft-Lbs (522.1 NM) @ 4500.00 RPM
HP to Weight Ratio 9.3 LB / HP (Vehicles with similar ratio)
HP / Liter 71.3 BHP / Liter
Bore 3.55 in | 90.2 mm.
Stroke 4.15 in | 105.4 mm.
Compression Ratio 9.6:1
Fuel Feed Fuel Injected
Sequential Electronic Fuel Injection
Block Cast-iron
Head Aluminum

[440bigborekit]

^^^^ yes you are right that was a typo on my part they are natural

[gncc025]

Originally posted by 440bigborekit
^^^^ yes you are right that was a typo on my part they are natural

yeah kinda thought that was a typo wasnt sure though:p

[coolex]

rather have an srt-10:eek2:

[400exrider707]

Originally posted by gncc025
this is the only thing i disagree with u on.
no supercharger for the Rs

Engine Configuration V
Cylinders 8
Hydraulic valve lifters
Aspiration/Induction Normal <----------
Displacement 5409.00 cc | 330.1 cu in. | 5.4 L.
Valvetrain DOHC
Horsepower 385.00 BHP (283.4 KW) @ 5700.00 RPM
Torque 385.00 Ft-Lbs (522.1 NM) @ 4500.00 RPM
HP to Weight Ratio 9.3 LB / HP (Vehicles with similar ratio)
HP / Liter 71.3 BHP / Liter
Bore 3.55 in | 90.2 mm.
Stroke 4.15 in | 105.4 mm.
Compression Ratio 9.6:1
Fuel Feed Fuel Injected
Sequential Electronic Fuel Injection
Block Cast-iron
Head Aluminum





also they are only made in 2000, no 99's and there were only 300 ever made.

[gncc025]

Originally posted by 400exrider707
also they are only made in 2000, no 99's and there were only 300 ever made.

yup, sure enough no 99s. but there was a 95 R

http://www.mustang50magazine.com/roadtests/4288_1995_cobra_r/

[ZWILLETT47]

Originally posted by 400exrider707
Ok here we go again, your 93 has a 5.8 naturally aspirated, the 04 has a 5.4 supercharged, big difference....

the 5.4 motor didn't even come out til 97 I believe. The old one is the 351 motor. I believe the lightnings had the 351W but not positive on that, but I do know for a fact it wasn't a 5.4.... how long have you owned the truck? :p

You may be right the 93 could be a 351 but its fuel injected no carb. I owned it since new it has 49K mile on it.

Yes the 04 is supercharged and the point I was making there is a BIG difference...

[400exrider707]

Originally posted by ZWILLETT47
You may be right the 93 could be a 351 but its fuel injected no carb. I owned it since new it has 49K mile on it.

Yes the 04 is supercharged and the point I was making there is a BIG difference...


haha yes I know. :D

[ZBlaster]

Originally posted by 400exrider707
No, both 4.6's cobra is supercharged.. GT is not. The mach 1s are 4.6's as well but 4 valves per cylinder not 2 like the others.


Ok, i am now going to attempt to straighten out this post, forgive me if its already been done i didnt feel like reading through, all the missinformation was giving me a headache...

1. for the most part, this guy knows his stuff..

2. The Mach 1's, and the Cobra's were all 4 valve... even the 99-01 Cobra models were 4 valve... the Mach and 99-01 Cobra were all aluminum, high compression N/A motors, while the 03-04 Cobra had an all iron, forged internal 4v running with an Eaton roots type supercharger.

3. The older lightnings were a 5.8 351W that was FI, quick trucks, but nothing like the monster supercharged 5.4 avaliable in the newer models.

4. The Cobra R was produced in 3 years, 1993, 1995, and 2000. The 1995 was a 5.8L N/A 351W car, the 2000 was a 5.4L N/A car, all came with no radios, or a/c and practically race ready straight from the factory. They made roughly 150 1993 models, 250 1995 models, and 300 2000 models, the 2000 model retailed for around $38k if i remember correctly, and you'll be looking at more then 2x that for one now... if you can find one.

5. The new GT500 is technically not a cobra... its a Shelby, yes it has cobra badges but it isnt technically a cobra. It has a supercharged 5.4L that is VERY VERY potent but very choked down from the factory.

that covers most of it i believe... any other questions feel free to shoot them my way... also join SVTPerformance.com from some great L info...

[KXRida]

Originally posted by Ghost-Rider
Well im just saying. We have had a 98 Gt ( was a 4.6) and a 99 Cobra ( Supercharged 5.4) Ford would never supercharge the 4.6


SVT never offered a 5.4L in any of the cobra's except the cobra R. which was not supercharged. Plus, 99 and 00 cobra's weren't supercharged. They made 305 hp. They never put a supercharged 5.4 in a cobra. They are 4.6's.

Please post up pictures of your "99 5.4L supercharged Cobra" I'd love to see it.

How would I know? We used to have a 99 cobra as well as a 98.

[Plante400]

i want one of these..:D

[400exrider707]

Originally posted by Plante400
i want one of these..:D

check out the hennessey version...

[KXRida]

There is a new f-150 coming out either made by roush or shelby, can't remember but it's 500+ hp. It's called project nitemare or something similar to that.

[big700r]

ok if i buy a 97-2003 ford 5.4 can i put the super charger on it ? so its the same as the for lighnin

[ugottabayou]

Originally posted by big700r
ok if i buy a 97-2003 ford 5.4 can i put the super charger on it ? so its the same as the for lighnin

If you are referring to non-lighting F150. Yes, you could supercharge it, however it would not be a matter of just putting it on. I researched putting a lighting supercharger on my 2000 4x4, and it would take a bit of work. Its been awhile but I think things like accessory brackets, coil packs, etc. are altered. There is a complete list of parts you would need along with the supercharget to do a proper conversion. If I remember right the normally aspirated egine has higher compression pistons compared to the lighting, which has lower compression to compensate for the extra boost of the supercharger to run on pump gas.