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4Wheels
10-22-2002, 05:49 PM
the bolt that mounts the swingarm to the frame is really diificult to remove. im having lots of trouble taking it off. ive also looked through my clymer 400ex manual and followed the instructions carefully and still the bolt won't come out. anyone have any suggestions. thank you :mad:
cdalejef
10-22-2002, 05:51 PM
Well....we had to use a plasma cutter to get Rico's out!:(
forum
10-22-2002, 07:52 PM
yea man. use major force. i'll save you the hassle in trying the little things go big cause its in there GOOD!. I had to cut mine out with a tourch and drill and saw and.... I had to buy new bushings but i got it out. oo ya and a new bolt!

i feel for you man. i missed two races because off this damn bolt. Not only did i miss the races but because of it i lost first place in my class. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR. I should get atleast second tho.
jgfarmsracer
10-22-2002, 09:21 PM
the bolt is hollow, I used a old tie-rod a pair of vise-grips a little torch heat and a 10lb sledge hammer
Put alot of heat on the bushing collar's then while someone hold's the tie-rod with the vise-grips hit it with the sledge
Mine was tight as **** we hit it 20 times or even more but we didn't have to cut it out
My buddy just let his go till you chould move the swing-arm about 3 inches side to side / it came out perfect
Good luck
chris4w1
10-23-2002, 08:52 AM
i got a brass rod and a 10 pound sludge hammer and beat mine out and when u put it back in grease it and grease it often or this will happen again
ChadEXer
10-23-2002, 01:39 PM
I had the same problem when removing mine,,,just find an ice pick or rod that you can beat it out with!! We had to beat on mine forever but I didnt have to cut it!!! Definately grease it before you put it back in ,,,,,I just got inside from taking my motor back out of the frame to send back to TC and the bolt slipped right out because we greased it when we put it back together!!
Live2Ride300
10-23-2002, 01:42 PM
Damn, so what happened to your motor ?
10-23-2002, 01:42 PM
I soaked mine down with PBblaster for a week, turned it and sprayed it down some more,,,beat on it with a punch, a 10 lb sledge,,you name it i did it,,it never moved. good luck,,but I can say cuttin it out is easier than beatin on it for 3 days..:eek:
Live2Ride300
10-23-2002, 01:46 PM
Holy crap rico, why do they get so stuck in there? Cuz it dries out and dirt and crap gets in there and it just like seizes cuz its metal on metal? I should probably grease mine on my 300. I should have yesterday when I put the raptor shock on, but I was running out of time and had to go to drivers ed, lol.
ChadEXer
10-23-2002, 02:54 PM
Originally posted by Live2Ride300
Damn, so what happened to your motor ?
I blew a head gasket!! I had it running entirely too lean!!!
Live2Ride300
10-23-2002, 04:55 PM
damn, that sux, you have to send it back to TC to replace a head gasket??
Mxbubs
10-23-2002, 05:46 PM
This is always my reply to this question, and it always works. hehe.


1lb, 2lb, 8lb mal........etc.


Get a bigger hammer with a longer handle and tell everyone to step back. :D
4Wheels
10-23-2002, 07:25 PM
Ill try with some heavy duty mallets...i also been soaking with the pb blaster......If i cant pund it out would a saws all be safe to use?... any idea how much the bearing ,bolts and seals cost to replace?:(
Dave400ex
10-23-2002, 08:05 PM
Heck mine came out with a hit of a wood dowel rod and hammer.
ChadEXer
10-24-2002, 08:12 AM
Originally posted by Live2Ride300
damn, that sux, you have to send it back to TC to replace a head gasket??
Yeah because TC makes the head gasket by hand..I got the carb fixed now so it shouldnt happen again!
Dave400ex
10-24-2002, 02:59 PM
Have him make more then one.
ChadEXer
10-24-2002, 03:36 PM
Yeah im gonna talk to him about that.. I also noticed when I took the motor out that the throttle cable from the Lectron was almost burned in half! Looks like ill need a new one of them too!! I guess the motor must be running a bit hotter for it to burn from the top of the head like that!! Guess I need some high temp wire loom or something to cover it,,,I had red wire loom on it but it burnt through that too...
Dave400ex
10-24-2002, 03:38 PM
lol. What do you have for it to run Cooler? Oil Tank? Scoops? FST Cooler?
Sportrax 400EX
10-29-2002, 05:59 AM
After reading this I am going tp pull my swing arm bolt out and grease it up some. Do I need to disconnect the shock first or can I just remove it grease it and reinstall without having to do anything else?

Thanks for the info

D.
10-29-2002, 07:12 AM
get the rear wheels off the ground first,,I'd also remove the shock just to get it out of the way,,get a few cold ones,,if your old enough,,say a small prayer before you begin and if you have kids make sure their not in the garage with you because odds are you'll be using alot of profanity...:D
ChadEXer
10-29-2002, 07:16 AM
Chances are it could give you he!! and chances are it will be no sweat!! Mine is a 2000 model and i really didnt have much of a problem taking it out even the 1st time I done it!! I didnt take my shock off and I didnt have a problem!

Warriorman, I have some Tinner scoops, and a Pingrys oil tank,,,I had the FST oil cooler but Tom made me sell it!!! Im going to run it on alky with a 41mm FCR and that will cool it down tremendously, not to mention add around another 10 hp:)
Sportrax 400EX
10-29-2002, 07:39 AM
I went out and tried mine and it moved and slid a few inches out with some minor tapping with a large hammer. Should I go ahead and tap it all the way out and lube the whole thing with some axle grease? Will the swing arm come loose?
On the old enough for beer part. Beer is always a good co-pilot when working on stuff. I'm 28 but pretty new to the quad scene. I used to race hooked up Honda cars but that got to expensive and the cops were always on my *** about mods done to my car. Thanks for the tips guys, much appreciated.

D.
10-29-2002, 07:54 AM
Originally posted by Sportrax 400EX
Should I go ahead and tap it all the way out and lube the whole thing with some axle grease?

THAT'S a BIG 10-4 some anitsieze might be even better..:cool:
Sportrax 400EX
10-29-2002, 07:57 AM
Cool deal, thanks Rico.

D.
oynot400
10-29-2002, 10:51 AM
We had one that was stuck, it would turn but not come out. Tap some treads on the ID of the bolt on the right side and use a slide hammer or port a power. It will come right out. ;)
Beating on the bolt that is stuck will cause it to bend and wedge it in the bore. If you pull it out it should come out easier. It is a good idea to pull it out at least once a year to lube it up and check the bearings.
10-29-2002, 10:57 AM
Originally posted by oynot400
It is a good idea to pull it out at least once a year to lube it up and check the bearings.

Or send me $10 and I'll tell you a secret to were you can put a stock bolt back in and never take it out and it won't seize again..money orders only please..:D PS..Jeff@quadshop told me about it,,but he want's $15 for the secret..
Doibugu2
10-29-2002, 11:26 AM
How bout you tell me the secret, since mine is a 2002. I can pull it out now and never have to worry about it.


Pa pa please;)
10-29-2002, 12:45 PM
Originally posted by Doibugu2
How bout you tell me the secret, since mine is a 2002. I can pull it out now and never have to worry about it.


Pa pa please;)

do ya want my shipping address,,remember money order only..:devil
oynot400
10-29-2002, 12:46 PM
I only deal with stolen credit cards. :eek:
Sportrax 400EX
10-29-2002, 12:53 PM
The secret is to coat it in a good amout of KY Jelly before stickin it back in her. :)
Castor-426ex
10-29-2002, 11:22 PM
Originally posted by Rico
I soaked mine down with PBblaster for a week, turned it and sprayed it down some more,,,beat it , you name it i did it,,it never moved. good luck,,but I can say cuttin it out is easier than beatin on it for 3 days..:eek:



Rico please....thats sick
10-30-2002, 07:43 AM
Has anyone drilled a hole in their bolt and used a castle bolt and coter pin?

I was in a race this weekend flying down a corn field, and kept hearing a noise, I stopped and noticed my swing arm bolt was sticking half way out.

I kicked it back in and rode to the pits, but I'm going to find myself a castle bolt and coter pin. I talked to a fewer other racers that have this set up too. Just something to think about when your reinstalling your bolt.
10-30-2002, 07:47 AM
It's amazing some guys pivot bolts just fall out while some of us have to use dynamite to get ours out,,if your happens to be loose and wants to fall out,,consider it a blessing..:o
Mxbubs
10-30-2002, 10:53 AM
No, dont drill in it! Just find a good metric Nylock! It will never come loose!
Bean
10-30-2002, 05:12 PM
loc-tite and a nylon
forum
10-30-2002, 09:07 PM
i don't see why a hole would hurt it. But mybe bubs is right. Also you don't need a castle nut. the nut might loosen but how cares cause if you got the pin in it wont fall out
skinrider440
10-31-2002, 05:29 PM
mine came out easy with a5lb sledge and a 3/8" extension
11-01-2002, 07:40 AM
why don't you want to drill a hole in the bolt?

the reason for the castle nut is because there isn't much bolt left with a regular nut.

i will keep you posted on what i do, i definitely don't want to be flying down a corn field and have the bolt poop out.
Bean
11-01-2002, 10:47 PM
yea that wouuld be bad, lol