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Godspeed
10-22-2002, 06:44 AM
Thats right. I was talking to a fella at the new mx track that www.Wolfpackperformance.com put in at Crown Point and he runs a Moto with a Speed map and HMF pipe. He said the Speed was much better for him and ran it up at Red Bud and loved it.

Do you think that everyone going with the Moto map is just a bit premature?

Pappy
10-22-2002, 06:47 AM
maybe....but ya have to start somewhere...lol

i have the blaze mapping and love it.....i geuss that one great point with the cdale.....ya can change it with really no trouble at all:o

and with the map switching device.....ya could have the best of 3 worlds i reckon!!!:cool:

R-Crazy
10-22-2002, 02:11 PM
even more that three worlds with the other mappings like the nacs and the trinity. about 5 worlds. Probably more are out there, we just have to discover them.

dave

86atc250r
10-22-2002, 03:19 PM
The Speed map is the same as the Cannibal map with the exception of the rev limit.

The Speed/Cannibal map has more timing on the top end under heavy throttle...

Guy400
10-22-2002, 03:34 PM
Originally posted by 86atc250r
The Speed map is the same as the Cannibal map with the exception of the rev limit.

The Speed/Cannibal map has more timing on the top end under heavy throttle... Gabe, that's exactly what I thought but someone posted on here a couple of days ago that the Cannibal made like 34hp at the rear wheels and the Speed made 37hp or something like that. That additional HP cannot possibly be made in that last 1000RPM.

YamaWarr0121
10-22-2002, 03:38 PM
i read that too guy, but i just looked at my c-dale 2002 broucure i got and it says the cannibal n speed both clock in at 33 and the blaze n moto both at 39...just the weight is different

but then again it shows the 400ex in the begging with only 21 hp and the rapter at only 28 so i gues maybe that might be more of a real look at it...

another ? though what makes the extra hp in the moto n blaze?
a header n pipe?...gotta be something else

86atc250r
10-22-2002, 03:51 PM
Hmm, must be differences between bikes, conditions, dynos, etc....

I've personally decoded these maps, done file comparisons, and am pretty confident of my data. No 3rd party heresay here :)

Guy400
10-22-2002, 04:13 PM
Originally posted by 86atc250r
Hmm, must be differences between bikes, conditions, dynos, etc....

I've personally decoded these maps, done file comparisons, and am pretty confident of my data. No 3rd party heresay here :) Trust me, Gabe. I'd believe your findings sooner than anything I'll read in magazines!

86atc250r
10-22-2002, 05:25 PM
Have I showed you my tools?

Do you have access to a M&D kit for uploading maps?

Guy400
10-22-2002, 05:39 PM
No, I don't have any of the software necessary to do any of the mapping stuff.

AlaskaSpeed
10-22-2002, 05:52 PM
Guy,
Gabe has shown me his work and it is pretty cool what he has done. I ran the stock Speed all season and it pulled great. I am going to try out the Nacs mapping next....probably others as well..............JIM

4punksdad
10-25-2002, 07:21 PM
I am not sure what has what, but kenny's quad flies. And there is no need to pull high revs to get arm wrenching power out of his machine. And that was from a test ride I took on a very wet day. I want to ride it on a dry day :)

Taco
10-25-2002, 07:22 PM
4punks you ought to try the diesel map that wyndzer has. Talk about torque!!:macho ;)

Pappy
10-25-2002, 07:26 PM
Originally posted by 4punksdad
I am not sure what has what, but kenny's quad flies. And there is no need to pull high revs to get arm wrenching power out of his machine. And that was from a test ride I took on a very wet day. I want to ride it on a dry day :)

haha...was fun eh joe? lol she sure did hook comin outta the corners....spinning and still lifting the tires...gotta love it:D

10-27-2002, 07:38 PM
:huh :huh i know this is probably a stupid question but what really is the mapping on a fourwheeler or is it only on a cannondale??

Ralph
10-28-2002, 07:22 PM
soon u guys will be downloading the mappings of kazaa, imserious lol...