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krt400ex
06-23-2007, 05:39 PM
i dont like the way they look, but i think that the tire choice was for the better...what do you guys say?

XXXRACER165
06-23-2007, 05:43 PM
They should of put better Shocks on it:D

07250ex
06-23-2007, 05:46 PM
Originally posted by XXXRACER165
They should of put better Shocks on it:D

when you compare 450r shocks to any other 450 shocks or look at them straight ahead they have to be the ugliest looking pogo sticks ive ever seen

krt400ex
06-23-2007, 07:02 PM
Originally posted by 07250ex
when you compare 450r shocks to any other 450 shocks or look at them straight ahead they have to be the ugliest looking pogo sticks ive ever seen


i agree. i dont like how they put graphics on the gas tank to make the bike all red...and i dont like the blue seat on the black one at all

krt400ex
06-23-2007, 07:03 PM
and now that im thinking of it. i have never liked the design on the headlight since '06. i liked the way the older ones looked...they were sweet

XXXRACER165
06-23-2007, 08:47 PM
I agree

pats2007450er
06-23-2007, 11:23 PM
Originally posted by krt400ex
i agree. i dont like how they put graphics on the gas tank to make the bike all red...and i dont like the blue seat on the black one at all the gas tank is red,not graphics.the 04-05 headlight is the ugliest thing ever.i agree on the red 450r its ugly with the red tank.i think the new tires are great.the shocks are not the best.

300exguy125
06-24-2007, 08:53 AM
i think the 08 450r looks pretty good because i have alot of problems with black on my quad with it fading and it looks like crap so i really dont mind a dominate red quad for the shocks i dont think they compare to other 450 shocks but if i compare them to mine i think they look ten times better and probally perform better

450mxh
06-24-2007, 11:59 AM
I don't know what honda is doing but the 08 is not impressive at all, hopefully the 09 is totally different with some suspension options, and maybe efi. They need something to compete with the quadracer r450.

krt400ex
06-24-2007, 12:02 PM
Originally posted by 450mxh
I don't know what honda is doing but the 08 is not impressive at all, hopefully the 09 is totally different with some suspension options, and maybe efi. They need something to compete with the quadracer r450.


i dont like the Q racer at all. imo the R is better except for the width. they need to make a bike to compete with the kfx 450...that machine is amazing

krt400ex
06-24-2007, 12:02 PM
Originally posted by pats2007450er
the gas tank is red,not graphics.the 04-05 headlight is the ugliest thing ever.i agree on the red 450r its ugly with the red tank.i think the new tires are great.the shocks are not the best.


i didn't notice it was the whole tank. i like it even less now

07250ex
06-24-2007, 03:10 PM
Originally posted by krt400ex
i dont like the Q racer at all. imo the R is better except for the width. they need to make a bike to compete with the kfx 450...that machine is amazing

WOAH! hold your horses big fellah little steps first they still need to make something to compete with the yfz

CHEVYZ
06-24-2007, 04:21 PM
So you want them to downgrade?

N300exJ
06-24-2007, 04:25 PM
When my brother was in south carolina last week they went to a huge dealer in myrtle beach. they had a few 08 450r's. He said they looked horrible with the matching gas tank.

Yeah honda needs to make alot of changes soon. I think first they should worry about making a better engine/trans for abusive atv use. than a lighter frame with wider a arms and axle. than better shocks. last i think should be more modern technology like efi etc.

07250ex
06-24-2007, 04:40 PM
Originally posted by CHEVYZ
So you want them to downgrade?

If they did that the 450r would be absolutely useless you might as well race a 400ex or z400

tar
06-24-2007, 05:26 PM
You guys talk all this **** on the 450r and it's the fastest 450 in stock form in a strait line. Also it's still kickin *** in pro races.

XXXRACER165
06-24-2007, 05:41 PM
Yeah After $3-4,000 later.

Flyin-Low
06-24-2007, 09:30 PM
Yeah, and what quad is no one going to spend a few G's on when they go race?

And they should make a quad to compete with the KFX450R??? Lmao, my buddy bought the new KFX right when they hit the showroom floor and sold it maybe a month later because it had been to the shop 5 times already. Don't see too many 450R owners complaining about reliability.. I think honda just needs to look at minor upgrades on the suspension and such, nothing crazy. Because everyone is going to swap out the parts anyway?

Sure the LTR is wide and all, but how many people racing are running the stock axle, a-arms and susp. anyway?


-Martin

pats2007450er
06-24-2007, 10:03 PM
Originally posted by 07250ex
If they did that the 450r would be absolutely useless you might as well race a 400ex or z400 you talk all this shlt about the 450r is useless.then you and xxxracer165 bring ya'lls lil quads up to ky and then lets see who's talking shlt.your mommy's and daddy's wont bring you this far.keep rideing around backyard and maybe one day you will have a quad fast enough to get out of the yard.flyin-low i agree with every thing you said.

07250ex
06-24-2007, 10:09 PM
Originally posted by tar
You guys talk all this **** on the 450r and it's the fastest 450 in stock form in a strait line. Also it's still kickin *** in pro races.

thats absolute poop for two reasons the yfz and 450r are dead nuts i just pick on the 450r cuz i like the yfz better and the reason there winning all the races is because everyone races them

07250ex
06-24-2007, 10:12 PM
Originally posted by pats2007450er
you talk all this shlt about the 450r is useless.then you and xxxracer165 bring ya'lls lil quads up to ky and then lets see who's talking shlt.your mommy's and daddy's wont bring you this far.keep rideing around backyard and maybe one day you will have a quad fast enough to get out of the yard.flyin-low i agree with every thing you said.

I'm sure with evenly matched power i would have no trouble winning,kentucky is south of me, you guy's like thats pats out there lol?

pats2007450er
06-24-2007, 10:31 PM
Originally posted by 07250ex
I'm sure with evenly matched power i would have no trouble winning,kentucky is south of me, you guy's like thats pats out there lol? what are you like 11 years old.your used to the 250ex (with out your lid cant leave that part out.)a 450r would be to much power for you in 2nd gear.your another gray33.which gray33 is improveing and not nagging any more.go to bed kid.

XXXRACER165
06-25-2007, 09:44 AM
Dude I am a District 23 A class rider. I've smoked 450's on the track, and I'm friggin 20 years old!!!!! I know what I'm talkin' bout!

tar
06-25-2007, 10:11 AM
Originally posted by 07250ex
the reason there winning all the races is because everyone races them

And why do you think everyone is racing them..probably because it is a fast fun reliable machine.

07250ex
06-25-2007, 03:06 PM
Originally posted by tar
And why do you think everyone is racing them..probably because it is a fast fun reliable machine.

honda has the most money so they can buy off more pros

krt400ex
06-25-2007, 03:59 PM
Originally posted by tar
You guys talk all this **** on the 450r and it's the fastest 450 in stock form in a strait line. Also it's still kickin *** in pro races.


i love the 450R. i just dont like the new look....maybe i should put it this way...i love the older model 450R's

honda8&3
06-25-2007, 03:59 PM
I think it looks pretty cool IMO... There's always aftermarket though.:devil: :macho

yfz450rida
06-25-2007, 05:18 PM
Originally posted by XXXRACER165
Dude I am a District 23 A class rider. I've smoked 450's on the track, and I'm friggin 20 years old!!!!! I know what I'm talkin' bout!



where are u sitting in points this year and what a class do you race????

XXXRACER165
06-25-2007, 05:38 PM
Last year I rode in the Quad 265-450 A class and finished in 28th place. I was number #165 and had a points total of 16 points. I'm not racing this year yet cause I messed up my hand.

mx1791
06-25-2007, 06:11 PM
Originally posted by 07250ex
WOAH! hold your horses big fellah little steps first they still need to make something to compete with the yfz
LMFAO!
my brother has an 06 yfz and i have an 07 450r. the yfz is the biggest POS ive ever rode. although the stock susp. is better then the hondas, everything else about it sucks, esp. the power delivery. yamaha really needs to redesign a few things on that bike

06-26-2007, 11:34 AM
sup honda guys? you think you ghot issues or you dont like the look, i have no idea what i was thinking , and im prepared for your smarta@# comments, but traded my paid for 2007 trx450er with hrc kit(didnt start instantly, but started after a couple of rounds) ran awesome, other then my slow start( im not complaining, never complained about it!) got this outlaw 525 cause i dont race and i ride and i am making trails in woods no one has ever ridden in or anything for over 60 years( bunch of down trees and hills *reverse* *irs* , allthough i do like a quad that runs good, check this out. first ride, dumped all my engine oil out of my quad (case bolt leaking, bad case on my ktm), not total, but a significant amount for sure, looked like a 1967 harley been parked in my truck after every ride, wheels in rear being destroyed by the a arms because after my first outing, who knows, probably before , my rear wheel bearings are junk, can push wheel from 12 to 6 and back and forth from 3 to 9 when it is suspended. PLEASE TELL YOUR FRIENDS HOW JUNK THESE QUADS ARE, PRODUCTION DATE OF APRIL 2007, NOTHING BUT DISSAPPOINTMENT! SAVING FOR A NEW 2007 OR 2008 HONDA. CHAD SNYDER crounpoint@gmail.com 7654742029. ps all 5 dealers in my area wont even by this quad from me after owning it for 12 days now just for my payoff, offered it to them for 3 grand and every dealer said, not interested!!!! can you believe that sh^&

400exrider707
06-26-2007, 11:45 AM
Originally posted by XXXRACER165
Dude I am a District 23 A class rider. I've smoked 450's on the track, and I'm friggin 20 years old!!!!! I know what I'm talkin' bout!


You know what you are talking about because you're 20?

Your sig says you have stock arms and axle, how do you compete in A class?




Originally posted by 07250ex
honda has the most money so they can buy off more pros

You're kidding right? Honda has to be one of the stingiest companies with money. Remember a guy named ricky charmicael? Yeah he went to suzuki because Honda offered him something like 1.2 million to race their bikes while Suzuki offered him something in the neighborhood of 10 million.

XXXRACER165
06-26-2007, 12:11 PM
Maybe you will see some day how fast I really am. I'll post a video or something.

Gumby
06-26-2007, 01:28 PM
It's reasons like this thread that I don't participate in this site very much. This whole site is filled with kid's who think that their TRX90 can take your YZ450. I can't believe all the bickering and "i'm better than you" attitudes here. I look at it this way... We are all here, we all ride, most of us race, we do our best, we love this sport more than anything. A little appreciation for another guys ride goes a long way. I don't know how you people can sit there and bash. Grow up, we all share the same passion.

I've owned Honda since I started riding at 8 years old. I will never ride anything but Honda, that's how I am. Now am I going to sit there and call that guy or this guy a no good POS because he rides Yamaha? Hell no. He prolly has as much time and money invested in his ride and he loves riding it as much as I love riding mine. I tell him, nice ride man, and on my way.


My 2 cents.

XXXRACER165
06-26-2007, 02:34 PM
:grr: I'm 20. Not a kid!

Batavia's450r
06-26-2007, 03:50 PM
i'm 20 also and i am a kid and il keep doing dump things like breakin them bones trying to get to the front but if it comes down to learn im interested in your opinions lol...

as for Honda i love it...
suzuki is nice...
and yamaha... is ok

ive seen all these bikes win races and who hasnt ride wat you prefer ya the 07 looks ugly but who keeps them stock?? as for your a class dreams dude you aint got a clue...

as for national TT racing... Farr, Little, and Goodman.. Ogden... Rath... etc all have it down to a science no one beats them and they all ride honda but MX is very different so dont ripp my head off id be running that to if injuries didnt hold me back

krt400ex
06-26-2007, 05:28 PM
Originally posted by XXXRACER165
:grr: I'm 20. Not a kid!


alright dude, you need to stop now. i dont like all the argueing going on. all the thread was for was to see what ppl's opinions on the new 450R is...that's it. lets plz stop the BSing

XXXRACER165
06-26-2007, 08:01 PM
A'ight cool, I'll stop. Just as long as you ADULTS out there learn how to respect each other.

fast_man58
06-27-2007, 11:07 AM
Originally posted by Gumby
It's reasons like this thread that I don't participate in this site very much. This whole site is filled with kid's who think that their TRX90 can take your YZ450. I can't believe all the bickering and "i'm better than you" attitudes here. I look at it this way... We are all here, we all ride, most of us race, we do our best, we love this sport more than anything. A little appreciation for another guys ride goes a long way. I don't know how you people can sit there and bash. Grow up, we all share the same passion.

I've owned Honda since I started riding at 8 years old. I will never ride anything but Honda, that's how I am. Now am I going to sit there and call that guy or this guy a no good POS because he rides Yamaha? Hell no. He prolly has as much time and money invested in his ride and he loves riding it as much as I love riding mine. I tell him, nice ride man, and on my way.


My 2 cents.

we need more riders like you out there. the kids in here still didnt seem to get the hint.

BTW, i live about 5 miles out of appleton.

XXXRACER165
06-27-2007, 11:52 AM
Anyways for the tires, the fronts should of been the meats off the first year YFZ, they steer better. And Honda also made the gas tank smaller they should of kept it the same for the trail riders.

yotacrawler4
06-27-2007, 11:57 AM
Originally posted by Gumby
It's reasons like this thread that I don't participate in this site very much. This whole site is filled with kid's who think that their TRX90 can take your YZ450. I can't believe all the bickering and "i'm better than you" attitudes here. I look at it this way... We are all here, we all ride, most of us race, we do our best, we love this sport more than anything. A little appreciation for another guys ride goes a long way. I don't know how you people can sit there and bash. Grow up, we all share the same passion.

I've owned Honda since I started riding at 8 years old. I will never ride anything but Honda, that's how I am. Now am I going to sit there and call that guy or this guy a no good POS because he rides Yamaha? Hell no. He prolly has as much time and money invested in his ride and he loves riding it as much as I love riding mine. I tell him, nice ride man, and on my way.


My 2 cents.

nice paragraph i was going to say the same thing but you got to it first good job, happy riding

krt400ex
06-27-2007, 05:11 PM
Originally posted by XXXRACER165
A'ight cool, I'll stop. Just as long as you ADULTS out there learn how to respect each other.


the person that started this thread is 16...ME


all im saying is that it wasn't meant for an argument...just opinions on the looks of the '08 450R

XXXRACER165
06-27-2007, 06:02 PM
Originally posted by krt400ex
the person that started this thread is 16...ME


all im saying is that it wasn't meant for an argument...just opinions on the looks of the '08 450R


A'ight sweet.

400ex_rider13
06-27-2007, 06:17 PM
1 191 Wimmer Dustin---Suzuki
2 44 Wienen Chad---Suzuki
3 55 Gust Doug---Suzuki
4 13 Natalie Jr. John---Honda
5 12 Little Keith---Honda
6 75 Haavisto Joe---Suzuki
7 708 Goodman Harold---Honda
8 68 Shumaker Russell---Suzuki
9 9 Creamer Josh---Kawasaki
10 20 Upperman Josh---Kawasaki

That's the Top 10 WSPA SuperQuad 450 Point standings. And as you can see the Top 3 is, Oh..Suzuki. If you watch the video's from Father's Day race. You'll see Suzuki passing Honda's left right and center. Personally, if I sold my 400EX, I would buy a 450R. But if I were racing, it would be a no brainer. Suzuki. All I'm saying is don't say one quad is better than all the others. Cause that's right. All four 450's are very even stock and moded. As for the '08 450R, they should done some better changes. I'm sure '09 will be bring new invasions. New frame, EFI, and etc.

My 0.02

300exguy125
06-28-2007, 01:04 PM
those race results were just on fathers day?or is that the point standings for all the races because ive seen some other races and seen mostly all honda riders and suzuki riders but the majority were honda in the top 3 followed by suzuki i guess it just depends on the tracks and the riders but you cant look at one race and say which is best you gotta look at all the races and then if you were going to buy a quad off of race stats look at who/what machine was majority in first , thats depending on what you ride because the fastest on the track might not be the best for the woods like you were saying if you raced youed want the best for racing

coryatver
06-28-2007, 08:00 PM
1st and 2nd were on hondas just months ago until suzuki bought them. and Natalie is racing injured.



Originally posted by 400ex_rider13
1 191 Wimmer Dustin---Suzuki
2 44 Wienen Chad---Suzuki
3 55 Gust Doug---Suzuki
4 13 Natalie Jr. John---Honda
5 12 Little Keith---Honda
6 75 Haavisto Joe---Suzuki
7 708 Goodman Harold---Honda
8 68 Shumaker Russell---Suzuki
9 9 Creamer Josh---Kawasaki
10 20 Upperman Josh---Kawasaki

That's the Top 10 WSPA SuperQuad 450 Point standings. And as you can see the Top 3 is, Oh..Suzuki. If you watch the video's from Father's Day race. You'll see Suzuki passing Honda's left right and center. Personally, if I sold my 400EX, I would buy a 450R. But if I were racing, it would be a no brainer. Suzuki. All I'm saying is don't say one quad is better than all the others. Cause that's right. All four 450's are very even stock and moded. As for the '08 450R, they should done some better changes. I'm sure '09 will be bring new invasions. New frame, EFI, and etc.

My 0.02

hoopd450
06-28-2007, 08:20 PM
yeah, 1st, 2nd, 6th, 9th and 10th were on honda's. all of these guys are awesome riders. but money talks and most of them dont ride hondas now.

400ex_rider13
06-28-2007, 08:27 PM
It doesn't matter what half those racers used to race. I'm not going on one race. That's the point standings. But anyway.