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HB416EX
06-18-2007, 03:55 PM
I am going to rebuilt my motor and want more horsepower.I ride mostly dunes and dependabilty is an issue.I would like to get 40 HP.

XXXRACER165
06-18-2007, 06:20 PM
Talk to Duncan Racing about there National 440 Kit. There kit makes 40.3hp

XXXRACER165
06-18-2007, 06:20 PM
Ohh and It's Very reliable

krt400ex
06-18-2007, 06:56 PM
or a hotrods 460 stroker. franky G is running one of those. he said his hit like 43 hp on the dyno

XXXRACER165
06-19-2007, 05:00 PM
A 460 stroker should put out a healthy 46hp not 43, my 440 is 42hp on the dyno.

casey_lamm
06-19-2007, 05:56 PM
anyone know what factory is?


Originally posted by XXXRACER165
A 460 stroker should put out a healthy 46hp not 43, my 440 is 42hp on the dyno.

krt400ex
06-19-2007, 06:01 PM
Originally posted by XXXRACER165
A 460 stroker should put out a healthy 46hp not 43, my 440 is 42hp on the dyno.


im just tellin you what franky told me when i asked him

XXXRACER165
06-19-2007, 06:04 PM
Stock is 27hp

casey_lamm
06-19-2007, 06:14 PM
Thanks! I got some work to do. I wish there was a dyno avail so I can see that the money im putting in my 400 ex is paying off...but I dont...so I guess Ill just have to assume and be happy.


Originally posted by XXXRACER165
Stock is 27hp

XXXRACER165
06-20-2007, 01:57 PM
What kind of mods are you doing??

07250ex
06-20-2007, 02:18 PM
i doubt a 440 makes 42 and a 460 makes 46 because the 450's only make 38 and there high performance liquid cooled engines

XXXRACER165
06-20-2007, 06:38 PM
Here is a dyno chart showing my 440's power

casey_lamm
06-20-2007, 09:07 PM
not too shabby :)
Originally posted by XXXRACER165
Here is a dyno chart showing my 440's power

GPracer2500
06-20-2007, 09:21 PM
Originally posted by XXXRACER165
Here is a dyno chart showing my 440's power

What kind of dyno was that? Just wondering....I've never seen dyno software like that before.

Franky G
06-21-2007, 05:47 AM
Looks like paint !!:D

XXXRACER165
06-21-2007, 08:20 AM
It's a Flow dyno, what's paint??

GPracer2500
06-21-2007, 09:10 AM
Microsoft Paint. He's saying it looks made-up which it kinda does. AFAIK, all SuperFlow dynos use WinDyn software.

Also, in another thread you said it was a Dynojet dyno. :ermm:

It just looks very suspicious.

REDRIDDER
06-21-2007, 09:41 AM
Originally posted by GPracer2500
Microsoft Paint. He's saying it looks made-up which it kinda does.

AFAIK, all SuperFlow dynos use WinDyn software. wow mine dynos at 80hp thats amazing lol...just playing with the idea of ms paint lol.....no offence just playing with the idea that its made up.

400exrider707
06-21-2007, 11:21 AM
HP means nothing without a tq curve, also how about an A/F chart, pretty useless without that as well.


HP is just a mathematical figure derived from Torque, so I want to see the torque curve. Overlap the HP curve and the TQ curve you should have if its a true dyno run and anyone who knows anything about HP and TQ will know right away if its real or not.;)



REDRIDDER - Impressive numbers:p

XXXRACER165
06-21-2007, 01:15 PM
That is a real dyno chart! I have a seriously ported head, stage 2 Hot Cam, DR PC4000 cylinder with a 11.5:1 Wiseco piston, Pro Flow intake and WB pro-meg exhaust. This engine believe it or not makes 42 HP. Looks like paint, HA! I've never even tried paint.
Don't believe me, call over to Ward Performance.

400exrider707
06-21-2007, 01:22 PM
Originally posted by XXXRACER165
That is a real dyno chart! I have a seriously ported head, stage 2 Hot Cam, DR PC4000 cylinder with a 11.5:1 Wiseco piston, Pro Flow intake and WB pro-meg exhaust. This engine believe it or not makes 42 HP. Looks like paint, HA! I've never even tried paint.
Don't believe me, call over to Ward Performance.


I never said I didn't believe you, and those power numbers seem very realistic, its just anyone who reads dynos could care less about horsepower, I want to see the tq graph!! Jeesh!:scary:

REDRIDDER
06-21-2007, 03:01 PM
Originally posted by XXXRACER165
That is a real dyno chart! I have a seriously ported head, stage 2 Hot Cam, DR PC4000 cylinder with a 11.5:1 Wiseco piston, Pro Flow intake and WB pro-meg exhaust. This engine believe it or not makes 42 HP. Looks like paint, HA! I've never even tried paint.
Don't believe me, call over to Ward Performance. hey man chill i was just busting your chops,youve got to admit the graph does look kinda made up though.but yeah thats cool that it makes 42 hp.nice work

GPracer2500
06-21-2007, 04:46 PM
I don't know. That graph looks fishy to me. I'm not talking about what the peak number says--that's not what's driving my scepticism.

Things that make me suspicious---->

--Why is there no torque curve?
--The graph doesn't appear to be printed using any dyno software I've ever seen. If this was a SuperFlow dyno then why wasn't their software used?
--I've never seen a dyno graph that registered starting 0 HP.
--I've never seen a dyno graph that registered a figure below the idle speed of the engine (most runs start at least 1000rpm above the idle speed).
--6000rpm is an unusual location for peak HP on a 40+ HP 400EX.
--Why does the Y-axis go from 0 to 10 and then starts going by 5s?
--Why is there more space between the 10hp line and the 15hp line then there is between the other lines? They all seem a little different--what computer program is going to do that??

If I took my ATV to a shop to have it dyno'd and they gave me that graph I'd have a lot of questions. It just doesn't add up.

XXXRACER165
06-21-2007, 05:36 PM
Look, I had this quad dyno'd and said the engine makes 42hp. He gave me the chart and said here you go. Moving on from things, Idk what software their using. Call and ask. I just love the fact my motor makes 42hp, that is if they are telling the truth.:confused:

casey_lamm
06-21-2007, 05:55 PM
Either way the bike rips im sure...you should be happy. If you can prove what they gave you is crap, then You might have some free dyno runs DUE! :)

Gook luck, I hope the bike gets 42...thats pretty impressive.


How much $ would you say you have put in to get you to that level?


Originally posted by XXXRACER165
Look, I had this quad dyno'd and said the engine makes 42hp. He gave me the chart and said here you go. Moving on from things, Idk what software their using. Call and ask. I just love the fact my motor makes 42hp, that is if they are telling the truth.:confused:

XXXRACER165
06-21-2007, 06:18 PM
Two thousand some bucks it's alot

krt400ex
06-21-2007, 07:19 PM
Originally posted by 07250ex
i doubt a 440 makes 42 and a 460 makes 46 because the 450's only make 38 and there high performance liquid cooled engines


and if you throw a pipe on there the bike could jump as much as 10 HP...they are super corked up stock and running a much more mild cam dude