lets see some ATCs

[ATC_KING]

i want to see what ATC do you guys have. \\hssrv4\Students\2009\09TTatge\My Pictures\ATC.jpg
this is my 1985 200x it has 11:1 compression. i love it i ride it ever day.

[GPracer2500]

my 1985 ATC250R

http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/2088/pc010004resizeba4.jpg

http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/8595/pc140002resizeemailfc5.jpg



She's even got a soft side.... :p

http://img489.imageshack.us/img489/2679/p2060132mediumji0.jpg

[CRich[814]]

that R is sick. the only three wheeler ive ever ridden is a 200cc big red haha. yeah, no suspension at all. right now theres a 85 or 86 atc250R in my newspaper for $650 with new plastic and newly rebuilt motor. i thought about it, but theres no way i could get that much right now.

[ATC_KING]

nice pics of your 250.... i want to see a 500 two stroke or a person that has one talk about it..

[ATC_KING]

hey CRich[814] my and you are the same age. and my 200x was 750 but now is 1200. get a job..lol haha

[CRich[814]]

Originally posted by ATC_KING
get a job

have one already.

[duke416ex]

Boy those pics make me sick, I have my 84 250r that I have been wanting to restore but racing is taking all my money. I miss riding it an would love to have it for Sunday rides and stuff. Where is the best place to get atc parts, my tank is rusty and I haven't been able to find a decent one to put on it.

[ATC_KING]

save your money then and dont buy a lot of stuff. how doyou like mine?

[Rich250RRacer]

A little rare

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid210/p5ff903a9f0fa302b5b5dbfb6073cd265/edf5d200.jpg

Original flier sent by Honda

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid210/p55777964f9a4d93e111fd1189b7e7e0e/edf5d21e.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid210/pc9c34c07d99e8c995f6612188c7e6215/edf5d20e.jpg

[duke416ex]

Originally posted by ATC_KING
save your money then and dont buy a lot of stuff. how doyou like mine?

When you are racing for points you have to buy what you need to keep the bike going.

I don't see any pics of yours up, but my comp may just not be showing them.

[CRich[814]]

Originally posted by duke416ex
I don't see any pics of yours up, but my comp may just not be showing them.

ditto. one red x.

[GPracer2500]

Originally posted by Rich250RRacer
A little rare....

That is sweet. You don't see many clean ones like that--especially in blue.

[1fastR]

my 1982 70

[moto04racing]

those 250r's look like death traps.. id like a 70 to **** around on.

[Rich250RRacer]

Originally posted by GPracer2500
That is sweet. You don't see many clean ones like that--especially in blue.

Blue 70's were never sold, they were a giveaway item only. Supposedly, each dealer only got one.

[GPracer2500]

Originally posted by 1fastR
my 1982 70
Nice!


Originally posted by moto04racing
those 250r's look like death traps.. id like a 70 to **** around on.
They're not so bad--just less forgiving of mistakes and/or inexperienced riders.

Point taken though. I really like my ATC but there's plenty of times I've been reminded about how a four wheeled chassis is a superior design.


Originally posted by Rich250RRacer
Blue 70's were never sold, they were a giveaway item only. Supposedly, each dealer only got one.
Wow. Now I get the significance of the flyer.

[underpowered]

we have a 1981 ATC 200x. runs great, i love to ride it.

1983 ATC 200. no susp. at all.

a guy i work with at the cycle shop has an ATC 70 like the one above.


the Blue one is awesome, great looking little bike and very rare.

Three wheels are definitely a different world than four wheelers. i love to ride them, but you have to respect them. like GP said, they are less forgiving of mistakes.

[<DRS>GPF]

Originally posted by ATC_KING
i want to see what ATC do you guys have. \\hssrv4\Students\2009\09TTatge\My Pictures\ATC.jpg
this is my 1985 200x it has 11:1 compression. i love it i ride it ever day.

couldnt see it

[ATC_KING]

does any one have any thing bigger than a cool little 70? what would the honda dealer give them away.

[LTR450_#67]

My younger brother has a friend with a 350X. The kid has all the original plastic that is mint, but runs miaer on it till he restores it. I want to buy it off him but I don't think I would ride it enough.

a guy i know has a 85 r 86 350x, it hasnt been ran in YEARS. Great condition too. He wants rid of it but i cant stand the freakin thing, neither can he :confused:

[ATC_KING]

why you dont like ATC? hey <DRS>GPF what the hell are you tring to say.

[underpowered]

Originally posted by ATC_KING
why you dont like ATC? hey <DRS>GPF what the hell are you tring to say.

he is saying your pictures don't work. all that shows up is a red X

[ATC_KING]

it works on my computer. so i dont know what to do.

[GPracer2500]

Originally posted by ATC_KING
it works on my computer. so i dont know what to do.

FYI, I can't see them either. Try a different hosting site or upload them directly using the "Attach file" feature.

[ATC_KING]

i will try to get it up in the next week.

[juanki]

i know that you dont want to see more 70 but this is very nice

[juanki]

one that is custom

[juanki]

last one for the girls

[ATC_KING]

hey juanki that is the most bad ***** 70 i have EVER SEEN what does it have for a motor? with 70 like that one i WANT to see them. and now you need to get a playboy bunny to sit on that pink ATC.

[juanki]

really dont know, i saw this pics from an atc rally that is hel down every year i think at glamis or some other place in socal.

but when i saw those pics i knew i had to do something like that, i was going to buy one atc70 for 500 dlls and start a make over, but i got my wife with a baby and that plan stopped for a while.

[GPracer2500]

Originally posted by juanki
i know that you dont want to see more 70 but this is very nice

What's with the exhaust??? WTF?

[ATC_KING]

what is wrong with that pipe?

[DVXracer]

Originally posted by ATC_KING
what is wrong with that pipe?

Its a 2-stroke pipe on a 4-stroke.

[JOEX]

What are the more desirable years of 250r three wheelers?

Were the earlier ones air cooled?

[Blue250X]

haha I was riding my buddies atc70 before going up a tiny hill and I was in 1st pinned, and I let off, shifted to second and gunned it, and that thing stood straight up and threw me off. It has balls for a 70:devil:

[Blue250X]

Originally posted by JOEX
What are the more desirable years of 250r three wheelers?

Were the earlier ones air cooled?

Yes the earlyer ones were air cooled, the liquid cooling started around 1985 for most models, the first year of liquid cooled 250rs was 1985. Those were probably the more desirable years, they had better suspension too.

[deathman53]

No, you want 85 and 86 250r atc's. 86 ones are slightly better. I have an 86, that is getting transferred to a frame I a company build(this wasn't cheap either). I only broke 3 stock frames already from launching it on mx tracks. Trx250r nerf bars got fitted tonight and the rest of the stuff is happening tommorrow. 85's turn sharper than 86's due to less rake, but 86's are more stable in high speeds. For mx 86's are better, 85's for trails. Also 85 and 86 are much easier to get parts for, 86-89 250r parts work for almost everything but the front end, brake pedal, rear master and a few things.

this is me on my 200x

http://pictureposter.allbrand.nu/pictures/deathman53/IMG_0106.JPG.html

here is some of the 250r, by the way, the jump in the first 2 pictures is a 60ft table top

these pics are kinda old

http://pictureposter.allbrand.nu/pictures/deathman53/Cap0014.jpg.html

http://pictureposter.allbrand.nu/pictures/deathman53/Cap0013.JPG.html

http://pictureposter.allbrand.nu/pictures/deathman53/250r+4-12.JPG.html

http://pictureposter.allbrand.nu/pictures/deathman53/250r+4-1.JPG.html

81-84 250r atc's were aircooled, 85 and 86 are nearly the same motor as trx250r's

[SRH]

my 85 200x before i sold it this spring had alot of stuff done to it

[SRH]

id much rather be racing trikes instead of quads and have all these new 450s to choose from but with 3 wheels, anyhow, heres some pics from last summer

[SRH]

another

[SRH]

another 200x i had the winter before last summer

[GPracer2500]

85/86 ATC250Rs are the ones to have. As deathman mentioned, the 86 is slightly more desirable. But don't pass up a clean 85 if you're after one. All the performance and good looks are still there.

There were a number of small changes from 85 to 86. The rear carrier comes to mind. Some of the rear suspension bits are a little different too along with fork springs, seat foam thickness, headlight shroud, and some other stuff. The bottom shock linkage pivot bolt likes to bend on the 85s. 1mm larger and fixed by 86. Honda didn't quite get the chain adjustment method right for 85. It was really close to what we have now, but not until 86 did they did get it exactly right. It's too easy to bugger up the "notches" on the 85 carrier as you adjust it. As a result pretty much all of the original ones are all busted up by now.

Here's the Granddaddy of all 250r's.....the 1981 ATC250R:

http://powersports.honda.com/Motorcycle_DCTM/Milestone/Images/ATC_250_July.jpg

I took a brief ride on one a few years ago. It may be old-school and air cooled, but it was still an R at heart--no doubt about it. I was surprised by the power.

Here's a fun old article:

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d133/gpracer2500/1-88pg44.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d133/gpracer2500/1-88pg45.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d133/gpracer2500/1-88pg47.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d133/gpracer2500/1-88pg48.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d133/gpracer2500/1-88pg49.jpg

[SRH]

another 200x i had like 5 years ago

[deathman53]

I know where you can race trikes. In Ohio, the cra series allows trikes. There is a bunch of people who race there. Mx, TT, XC and the ones I talk to say they don't do bad at all compared to the quads. When there is less than 6 trike racers, they have to go in the quad class and they get 3rd-5th place too!!!!!One guy has a custom built tri-z, yz450f motor, inverted forks, trx450r rear suspension, its no holds bar. I plan to build a crf450r powered one next year, complete it will cost me ~8g's.

[DVXracer]

Man, i want a trike now :ermm: :p

[ZeroLogic]

Ours before we sold it. It was our first machine not including our old go cart.

[ZeroLogic]

I miss her.

[ATC_KING]

hey SRH my 200x looks like your 200x that u had 5 years ago. sorry the pic of mine didnt work.

[SRH]

where are you from?? could be my old one

[07250ex]

aren't trikes really unstable? also i belive trikes are faster and lighter then quads correct... but i dont think i would ever jump on try to slide on 1 i would think jumping a trike can easily get u messed up

[deathman53]

Originally posted by 07250ex
aren't trikes really unstable? also i belive trikes are faster and lighter then quads correct... but i dont think i would ever jump on try to slide on 1 i would think jumping a trike can easily get u messed up

you need to get out of that small box, you obvoiusly listen to the ignorant people too much. I jump my trike on 50-60' jumps, slide 5th gear pinned in turns, they are quite stable with the right rider and bike setup. Mine are far from stock and handle exceptonail. My atc250r, makes ~50 horses to the rear wheels and handles like its on rails. What gets alot of people about trikes is it takes a different rider, with a trike, its all about the rear end, especailly to make it turn. You have to lean far more over than quads and learn the technigne of weighing the front end and leaning into the inside of a turn. I have messed up jumps before, but I landed them all, some not so nice.

Get a 83-85 200x, get rid of them bo-bo tires and put on 20 holeshots, put on 400ex axle hubs and make sure all the bearings are good. I don't know if you want to believe it, but it makes more power than your 250ex, also. I guarantee you that with-in 2 days of riding it, you will get rid of the 250ex, as the 200x is faster and handles better. I have a 86 200x, when it was almost stock except a pipe and tires, I was riding with a guy that had a 250ex. I was waxing him all day long. He rode my trike and was sold on it, it did everything better than his quad. He rode my 200x the rest of the day. Trail riding I was beating all but a 400ex, my friend on his ds650 wasn't in sight.

[07250ex]

i know the 200x is faster and more powerful its lighter to better handling prolly more stable doubt it but my 250 isnt real stable my parents would never let me own a trike they think they know its dangerous and so did i till ur explanation but if their not dangerous why have they stoped being made? either way id rather have a yfz or a dirt bike

[deathman53]

Do I need to go into this?????? They stopped making them do to what is gonna kill quads in the future, people riding drunk, high, double, reckless, etc. People buying the fastest bike they can get, who have no idea how to ride, kids riding atc250r's!!!!, no rider training like is offered now. Also partly the manufacures fault of advertising them as a family vehicle, giving them the image like people riding a couch. Adding on this the greedly lawyers and 60 minutes and dateline giving biased facts. That is what did them in. I want someone to explain how the injuries/deaths on 4 WHEELED ATV'S just in 88 topped all the years of atc's. The answer is simple, you got more people buying them with the conception of them being safe and easy to ride and you still had the same group of kids, drunks, etc riding the new 4 wheelers.
Us trike guys deffend our trikes, yes they require more skill to ride and they aren't for everybody. You can't ride it like a couch, like alot of quad riders do. They are a very psychical(sp) ride, if you turn the front wheel, it won't turn, you have to slide it out to make it turn.

[07250ex]

why wont it turn?

[deathman53]

its a completely different ride, the front wheel doesn't do much with turning, most of the time the front wheel isn't on the ground much either. It takes alot of skill to ride them. I set the camber on my quads the same way, so you have to make the bike turn. You have to lean so much into the turns, as to make the rear end slide out and the front end tends to turn with it. When you are sliding too much or over turning, you have to countersteer as to straighten it out some. Its quite a ride to say the least and difficult at first, but more nimbe in the end. You also can make turns the quads can't. Now you understand why I say, that is takes a very different rider. If I ride a trike and quad the same day, you are very likely to overturn the quad or underturn the trike. Basically, with a trike, you are forced to slide the rear end out and doing this requires some interesting body positions. Now you understand how people got hurt on them, you can't ride it like its a couch and you have to be 100% sober to ride one, they aren't very forgiving to mistakes either. Everytime I crashed on my trikes was my own fault mostly due to oeverconfidence, excpet once when the throttle stuck open. I flipped 4 times, 3 times was overconfidence and the 4th was due to one side of the jump was hardpacked dirt and the other was slippery mud. Go look at the position that the racers of the 80's were in, their whole body was almost on one side of the bike. When I ride, its no different, a 4th and 5th gear slide requires you the have almost your whole body on the inner peg with your leg kinda like a hook over the seat. Take notice on the riders body position on the links I am putting here.

http://www.3wheeler.org/3&4wheelaction/2-86~ultralight250r.html

http://www.3wheeler.org/dirtwheels/11-85~200shootout.html

[ATC_KING]

i live in SD and mine was from AZ. ans if you know how to ride them you dont go down at all. about 4 years ago i had a 185 ATC and i would crash 3 or 5 time a day now i dont crash at all any more. hey 07250ex get your *** up and go get a cheap 200x and then you will not need to ask stupid questions. im 16 years old and im the best rider on a ATC in a 200 mile circle..

[250r4life]

i think deathman might be a little over-zealous, but...

[deathman53]

but......., what??? I ride my trikes with everything I got and as fast as I can. When I ride on mx tracks, I have to do those crazy body positions, however my 250r trike is setup to turn more slower and requires more body english to turn it, but its alot more predictble and stabile in turns. My 200x on the other hand its setup to turn really quick, but its less stabile on straight aways and turns for that very reason. Also the 200x requires more counter steering due to how its setup to turn quickly. Both are motocross machines, but the 200x is for the woods and 250r is for the track, the 250r is only a mx bike, it makes way too much power for the woods and with a 1 gallon gas tank(short track tank kit), you won't get very far woods riding either. The 200x, I can go awhile before the 2 gallon tank needs to be refilled.

[SRH]

trikes are very difficult to ride, i started on them but was off of them for 5 years and racing b level mx, and getting on the trike i could hardly make a corner for the first few rides after being off them so long but then once i rode them everyday for hrs at a time i got the hang of it, deathman is completely right with everything he said


i like this saying:

dirtbikes are for the young and crazy quads are for the old and lazy and trikes are for real men


the thing is trikes are a flawed design in the sense not anyone can ride them, and anyone could buy them and lawyers could prove it, quads however can be ridden by anyone safely

its unfortunate, i miss mine

[ATC_KING]

hey SRH if u miss the one u had then get another one. its not like they cost $4,000 or anything that is newer.

[zedicus00]

i miss the days when peeple actually knew how to ride (or hell, even drive for that matter). now with all this electronic start/push button reverse, auto-***-wiper, built in cup holder crap and the latte sipping idiots who put around with their cell phone and sunglasses blocking the trails and crying when u go by and kick up dust... at one time i was going sumwhere with this, now its just kinda a rant.

they should bring back trikes, make all vehicles manual shift, take out airbags and seat belts, and let nature take its course.

[Blue250X]

Originally posted by zedicus00

they should bring back trikes, make all vehicles manual shift, take out airbags and seat belts, and let nature take its course.

Amen, and no more ABS, it may not be safer, but it's usually funner:D

[SRH]

Originally posted by ATC_KING
hey SRH if u miss the one u had then get another one. its not like they cost $4,000 or anything that is newer.


i sold that one for $1200, it was perfect for me, i had to gusset the hell out of the footpegs and stuff and they still sagged out, ....and the motors dont last for me, too much of headache, im looking for a 400ex for a practice quad, i still ride atc;s all the time just not to that limit

Originally posted by zedicus00

they should bring back trikes, make all vehicles manual shift, take out airbags and seat belts, and let nature take its course.


Amen, and no more ABS, it may not be safer, but it's usually funner

X2, but it all should be someones CHOICE

[Mickey Dunlap]

test

[Mickey Dunlap]

Back in the day I liked to get air on the 3 wheelers:)

[Pappy]

Originally posted by Mickey Dunlap
Back in the day I liked to get air on the 3 wheelers:)

Mey Micky, you coming to Quadfest?

[Mickey Dunlap]

First race on a $30,000 200 two stroke works trike.

[deathman53]

Originally posted by Mickey Dunlap
First race on a $30,000 200 two stroke works trike.

I wonder where that trike is now??? Or any of the honda 200cc 2 stroke racers. I would have liked to see the atc500r, I know prototypes existed and there were a few out there, same for atc380r, atc200r, and atc500x. Mike Coe, talked about the atc500r and atc200r that honda had production models, that they were testing. Honda went so far to make a service manual, owners booklet and partsfiche for a atc500r, same for the 87 atc 250r/350x, that nobody has seen. A few 87 atc250r parts have appeared, seats, plastics, and intake tube, not a whole bike.

[Mickey Dunlap]

Originally posted by Pappy
Mey Micky, you coming to Quadfest?

Not at this time:ermm: I have one of the Kymco boys coming here to get a new motor for his GNCC quad.

[Mickey Dunlap]

Originally posted by deathman53
I wonder where that trike is now??? Or any of the honda 200cc 2 stroke racers. I would have liked to see the atc500r, I know prototypes existed and there were a few out there, same for atc380r, atc200r, and atc500x. Mike Coe, talked about the atc500r and atc200r that honda had production models, that they were testing. Honda went so far to make a service manual, owners booklet and partsfiche for a atc500r, same for the 87 atc 250r/350x, that nobody has seen. A few 87 atc250r parts have appeared, seats, plastics, and intake tube, not a whole bike.

Everything got crushed including my prototype 350x.:(

[DVXracer]

Originally posted by Mickey Dunlap
Everything got crushed including my prototype 350x.:(

Why ? :confused: :huh

[deathman53]

Mike Coe indicated the same thing. He said some of the bikes at the end of honda's racing of trikes in 86, got sold for next to nothing to the team mechanics, or the bikes got parted out for some of the parts. I have seen a few cylinders with hrc scribing and nickel-sel 68mm lining. There has been atc200r seat covers(facory honda jobs) sighted also. The parts are out there, just have to know where to look. A person on r-centrel has one of marty hart's clyinders and a 86 transmittion, but interesting enough with very similar to 87-89 transmittion similarities. A cylinder was on e-bay about a year ago, this had 68mm mickel-sil lining and poritng unlike any other, Mike Coe said this looked alot like hrc cylinders did. In 2002, I was at a swap meet and I saw an atc250r that looked unlike any other, the guy had said it was Marty Harts bike in the end of the 86 season, I didn't know much about trikes then, nor did I have an interest in them. I'm kicking myself for not buying it and looking more into it. On 3ww, a few poeple have ex-race trikes with parts that haven't been seen in some time, some have slevy 200r kits, ingiton, pipes, everything. Hey, Mickey, will you do work on a 86 200x????? I want this thing to rip.

[Villageidiott83]

dont have one. but coolest trike i ever rode was a 350x. then it was stolen end of story....that 350 motor was bullet proof..

[Villageidiott83]

oh and dont forget hondas BIG RED 250. not really a race bike but def needs its tribute...

[ATC_KING]

why would they crush them:confused: have any of you guys rode a 500 two stroke ATC??

a 500 2 stroke ATC sounds awsome, i would love to rip around on one....thats pretty neat that honda was testing a 200 2 stroke and a 500 2 stroke....too bad the lawsuits killed them

[ATC_KING]

all i have seen were videos of 500 two strokes. i will try to find a video of one today for you all.

please do!! id love to see a video of a 500 2 stroke trike!

[ATC_KING]

i cant find one to save my life

[3or4HONDA]

my 83 250R






<a href="http://s63.photobucket.com/albums/h159/michfan4432/?action=view&current=014.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h159/michfan4432/014.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

[Black Sheep]

well technically it's not a ATC but, it is a Honda and it's a 3wheeler. I built it to replace my 86 ATC 250R and 85 ATC 350X...

you may have already seen it elsewhere.

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff223/motomanimal32/DSC03530-1.jpg

[631kfx400]

dddaaaaaammmmnnnnn that thing is a beast

tht thing is sik!!!
i've seen some pics of custom built 3 wheelers and want 2 build i so bad one day

right now i have a 85 200x
it need some work but its gettin there
it sat for about 15 years but me and my dad were workin in our garage one day and we decided to start tearing into it
i cant wait till its done

[400exrider707]

Originally posted by Black Sheep
well technically it's not a ATC but, it is a Honda and it's a 3wheeler. I built it to replace my 86 ATC 250R and 85 ATC 350X...

you may have already seen it elsewhere.
[/IMG]

Where in NY are you from? Sick looking trike!

[Black Sheep]

Originally posted by 400exrider707
Where in NY are you from? Sick looking trike!


does this help...

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff223/motomanimal32/DSC03543.jpg

[SET THE STAGE]

my old trail runner
http://i17.tinypic.com/4cvhs3s.jpg

i had 18" fast trekkers on it but they both ended up with slow leaks so i just threw those tractor/snow tires on haha

[ZeroLogic]

Originally posted by Black Sheep
does this help...

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff223/motomanimal32/DSC03543.jpg

Buffalo?:blah:

Where do ya ride?