View Full Version : Tc 505 Is Here!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ChadEXer
10-14-2002, 08:04 AM
Ok guys, been waitin a long time and I finnaly got the motor Sat and had this thing just about completely done on Sun. I still have the graphics and stickers and some cleaning that needs to be done but thought Id shoot a few with the cheap camera to show you what it looks like, this is right as I was loading it up to take it home from a friends house!! OK OK your saying how does it run???? Well, it runs like a scolded ***** dog!!!!!! It pulls so hard its impossible to even describe!!!! Going From a 416 to a 505 is like going from a 250EX to a 400EX!!!! Crazy fast!!! Tom has the Lectron just a little too fat but We will fix that today!! Damned thing sounds like a Harley on crack!!!!
ChadEXer
10-14-2002, 08:04 AM
another
ChadEXer
10-14-2002, 08:05 AM
last one for now
ChadEXer
10-14-2002, 08:06 AM
When my wife gets back in the office Im going to go out and finish putting the graphics\stickers on it and finish up a few other things then I will take some pics with a good camera and get them on here!!!
Everything sounds good so far,,but please do me a favor next time,,accidentally leave your POS digi cam on the trailer near the back were a small bump might toss it off...:D
knighttime
10-14-2002, 08:33 AM
Originally posted by ChadEXer
When my wife gets back in the office Im going to go out and finish putting the graphics\stickers on it and finish up a few other things then I will take some pics with a good camera and get them on here!!!
Pics of your wife or the 505? :confused:
ChadEXer
10-14-2002, 08:41 AM
Originally posted by knighttime
Pics of your wife or the 505? :confused:
:D We all know Im not aloud to have the camera around my wife anymore!!! not the digital camera anyway:D
Sparks425Ex
10-14-2002, 08:43 AM
Well Chad,
As soon as you get out to drag some people you are deff. gonna let everyone in on how much you owned some of those Yammmmiha Craptors. Get some pics of you cross the line like 20 bike lenghts in front of one. I will put it on my desk top.
ChadEXer
10-14-2002, 08:44 AM
Originally posted by NACS425Ex
Well Chad,
As soon as you get out to drag some people you are deff. gonna let everyone in on how much you owned some of those Yammmmiha Craptors. Get some pics of you cross the line like 20 bike lenghts in front of one. I will put it on my desk top.
:p I caint wait to get a few pics of that!!!
Looks sweet, go kick some Shee ***!
knighttime
10-14-2002, 09:16 AM
r u gonna take the mofo to the drag strip? :confused:
DMC mx400ex
10-14-2002, 09:16 AM
looks sweet man, i like...hehe, get some better pics
ChadEXer
10-14-2002, 09:29 AM
Ill get some better pics pretty soon! Tom told me he would set up the carb to be borderlining on running rich, he called me at 10:30 pm last night(coulndt believe he was working that late) to ask me how it was running, I told him it has a little hesitation at fist blip of the throttle, and he said, I bet it runs great when first started but doesnt want to idle god after it gets hot, he is exactly right, he said all I have to do is turn the needle 1/4 turn and it should be just right,,When Im saying it runs like he!! you have to figure im only giving it 50% throttle,,,and with the throttle housing not grinded yet it only opens up 70% when at full throttle, so Im figuring im getting 35% throttle!!!! This thing is nuts!!! Cant wait to fix the needle, grind the throttle housing and let her rip!!! In 5th gear going about 40mph I just blip the throttle and the front end comes off the ground!!!! I will be leaving for Little Sahara on Thur so Im sure Ill do a little playing around on the sand drag strip up there!!
If you bring back crappy pics from little sahara with your digi cam,,your gettin banned..period..good pics only..:blah :D
giver her some time to break in.
Rastus
10-14-2002, 09:35 AM
Sweet job Chad,but do what Rico said, accidentally leave that Digi camera on the rear of the trailer, so it might just happen to fall off :) Looks like its gonna be a rocket man.
ChadEXer
10-14-2002, 09:45 AM
Rico,
Will this be OK,,,,Ill take the digital camera and my good camera, I will take pics with both, that way I can post a few pics as soon as I get back, instead of having to wait for the good pics to develop to post them!! Just like I did here, if I had to wait for the good pics to develop it would be another day or three before I could show any pics!!:) Maybe at Little Sahara Ill offer to let someone ride the 505 in exchange for a good digital camera:D
own2424
10-14-2002, 09:47 AM
ChadEXer,
You can change your SIG, now that you got the 505 back together! :D
Guy400
10-14-2002, 09:55 AM
Originally posted by Rico
Everything sounds good so far,,but please do me a favor next time,,accidentally leave your POS digi cam on the trailer near the back were a small bump might toss it off...:D ROFLMAO!!!
exriderdude
10-14-2002, 10:13 AM
well its about time you get the beast goin, ive been waitin for it. cant wait to see the finished pics:macho
what gearing do u have on that beast???????????
DarkStarRacing
10-14-2002, 11:04 AM
i hope you have a fire extinguisher on that bad boy, cause it might blow up :eek: good luck with it though:)
knighttime
10-14-2002, 11:13 AM
Originally posted by DarkStarRacing
i hope you have a fire extinguisher on that bad boy, cause it might blow up :eek: good luck with it though:)
yeah i think u should get a specially designed fire extinguisher with a long hose to wear strapped to your back similiar to a camelBAK
:blah
ChadEXer
10-14-2002, 11:48 AM
Im running stock gearing on it!
i dont need a fire extinguisher, this thing will last forever:)
So was it worth the wait? When you coming to the LA Dunes??? Your gonna smoke me, but not by too much hehe. If i have my drag bike done well, i feel sorry for ya lmao. good luck with it and bronmg us back some pics!
Castor-426ex
10-14-2002, 02:20 PM
thank god..you got it back...chad just ask the woman to buy a new digi cam youre killing us...my vision has become worse by lookin at your pics...im not safe to drive...cmon..lol
ChadEXer
10-14-2002, 03:06 PM
I know, Ill get a better camera!!!
Was it worth the wait?? ABSOLUTELY Honestly its faster than I even though it would be!!! I got the Lectron tuned and its running awesome now!! it started raining real hard so I didnt get to do a whole lot of riding and do my finishing touches but they will be done by tommorrow for sure!!! I will have you guys some better pics then!!!
GreatAim
10-14-2002, 03:20 PM
out of curiosity, how much was everything together?
ChadEXer
10-14-2002, 03:25 PM
In the end the final number was $3042
Rip_Tear
10-14-2002, 04:39 PM
Nice EX Chad, now if I could only get a 400.... and a Digi camera to take some pic's with..... I am going to get a cheap digi cam just so I can take pictures when ever... I dont want to pay to get a crappy regular cam and have to get photo's developed...
RideRed04
10-14-2002, 04:53 PM
Originally posted by Rip_Tear
...and a Digi camera to take some pic's with..... I am going to get a cheap digi ...
Dont do it!!!! Save our eyes from the burn! Please, save your money and get a good one!
Blysster
10-14-2002, 05:01 PM
Did it blow up yet Chad??
J/K.. but seriously, from what we can make out on the pictures it looks good! I'd like to see the faces of the raptor owners you'll be smoking :D
flaneledholes
10-14-2002, 05:17 PM
Just be sure to tell the raptor guys that it only has a pie and carb on it that way they'll race ya... Cuz there is no way in he!! I would race ya and get the shame look on my face!!!
Oh
PS: How many horses is Tom claiming she is pumping???
DMC mx400ex
10-14-2002, 05:47 PM
3 grand 4 just the motor work right?
400exBro
10-14-2002, 06:24 PM
what do you use to cool that beast down,.,.,
a fan.,.............,.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Sorry my question symbol don t work
thanks
Bro
ChadEXer
10-15-2002, 08:07 AM
I rode the fire out of it yesterday and to my surprise it doesnt run hot at all!!! Everytime I get on it it seems to pull harder!!!
flaneled, Tom says it should be at least 60 horses, I think its closer to 70!!
jcv400ex
10-15-2002, 11:45 AM
You should play around with the gearing to really get the most out of her. Glad you got her back together!
YEEEHHHAAAWWW!!! lol. Get that thing down on the ground and we can have a big TT race somewhere. Even though I'm at a measly 440 now....:D
ChadEXer
10-16-2002, 09:08 AM
Everything is loaded up and ill be leaving for Little Sahara in the morning!! I will have some good pics when I get back!
ChadEXer
10-16-2002, 02:26 PM
Went ahead and shot a few more pics before I leave,,I will have some decent ones soon!!
ChadEXer
10-16-2002, 02:27 PM
another
ChadEXer
10-16-2002, 02:29 PM
last one
Please drag your camera around behind your 505 all weekend while racing..thanks..:D
kabd69667
10-16-2002, 02:59 PM
Chad! the camera is gettin a little better
ChadEXer
10-21-2002, 08:30 AM
After a trip to Little Sahara i have bad news!! My first race was against a Suzuki Z400 with a Yoshimura 450 kit in it,,,,I left him out of the hole and beat him by about 8-10 bike lengths!!! The next race was against a Banshee(Slightly modified) and I beat him pretty easy too!! After a few races im thinking,,,there is noone here thats going to be able to beat this thing,,,then that Z400 pulled up beside me again, this time I left him in the hole but come 4th gear he zipped past me,,,, Im thinking whats going on!! By the 3rd run against him Im hearing a loud tapping noise in the motor and I couldnt even pull 1st gear off the line:( Well after talking Tom Carlson on the phone, and my mechanic who was at the races, I found out its critical to break in a huge stroker motor for longer than about 10 minutes before getting on the drag strip wide open!! needless to say were pretty sure that I bent some valves!! Im getting rid of the Lectron and putting a 41mm FCR on alcohol this week, and having the valves fixed!! Im glad I had a back up to ride at Little Sahara!
Chad I thought you broke it in at your house before ya left??? YOu didn't???:eek:
ChadEXer
10-21-2002, 09:16 AM
Not good enough!! I actually didnt even run a half a tank of gas through it before I took off!! It gets boring riding circles in my yard, so i figured I would break it in when i got there, but first thing I had guys calling me out!!!
Texan32
10-21-2002, 09:17 AM
so, i guess the very bottom of your sig is correct again:eek: :D
Castor-426ex
10-21-2002, 09:35 AM
Chad you arent gonna be happy till you pour 10 grand in that motor huh...?? :D
ChadEXer
10-21-2002, 09:37 AM
Well, I really hope I dont have to send it to TC,,hopefully I can just replace the valves!!!
Castor-426ex
10-21-2002, 09:40 AM
stainless..??? titanium??
MichaelS693
10-21-2002, 09:41 AM
Nice Bike...Ya Finally Got it Back:D :D
exriderdude
10-21-2002, 09:58 AM
i knew it wouldnt take long to blow up:D
i hope it dont take another year
knighttime
10-21-2002, 11:21 AM
Originally posted by Texan32
so, i guess the very bottom of your sig is correct again:eek: :D
lmfao :D
ChadEXer
10-21-2002, 11:41 AM
Nah, I still havent blown it up!!;) but it damned sure isnt right!!! It will still outrun your 416 knighttime:)
Why ya swictchin to the FCR?
I feel for ya man, i had something similiar happen but it tore my topend all to crap, but it was after 100 or so hrs of riding. If you did float a valve, seems to me it shouldnt have happend, I thought Tom put stiffer valve springs in his motors?
ChadEXer
10-21-2002, 02:25 PM
Originally posted by X-Rider
Why ya swictchin to the FCR?
I feel for ya man, i had something similiar happen but it tore my topend all to crap, but it was after 100 or so hrs of riding. If you did float a valve, seems to me it shouldnt have happend, I thought Tom put stiffer valve springs in his motors?
I dont think it should have happened either and neither does Tom, but looking at my reciept from TC it looks like he doesnt put stiffer valve spring in it?? Ill call him in a bit and ask him, ill probably take the motor out and check the valves first..
Originally posted by ChadEXer
but looking at my reciept from TC it looks like he doesnt put stiffer valve spring in it??
I"m a TC racing fan,,but WTF is Tom doin building a pissed off 505ex and leavin stock springs in there...that' really has me worried about his work??:confused: :confused:
sucks to hear, i guess ill just wait till my stock motor blows :)
ChadEXer
10-21-2002, 02:46 PM
I dont have any idea??? Ill sure ask him though!!!
WHAT!! thats crazy, if he didnt put stiffer valve springs....Unless thats a mild cam i cant see why he didnt put stiffer valve springs. I know someone said that TC uses the same cam as the whitebros track cam, and the web 450 cam, it i dont know how much lift they have but they ought to be more than mild cams.
Chad i feel for ya man, do u think he will warranty it?
knighttime
10-22-2002, 08:26 AM
i cant believe tc racin didnt change the springs. The reason i got the xr400 cam is because i knew that was pretty much the only cam i could use and not have to uprgrade the springs, etc. Although it doesnt matter what the engine builder does if the owner decides to skip brakin the mofo in and go full throttle at the drag strip. :eek:
:huh
ChadEXer
10-22-2002, 08:53 AM
Well I broke it in to Toms specs but everyone else thinks I didnt give it enough time,,,Tom told me to break it in: start it and let it idle for 15-20 seconds(enough to get the oil flowing) then jump on it and take off,,other than that just dont give it full throttle until about 15 minutes of riding it,,,well im sure i rode it for over 15 minutes before i gave it full throttle????
Im not sure what cam he used but i do know that he grinds his own cams... Im going to call him today and see what were going to do,,,,but i need to do a compression check, if i can find my friend today!!
knighttime
10-22-2002, 09:13 AM
if thats the way tc told u 2 break in your engine, well i dont know what to say except i'm ~ lmfao
Castor-426ex
10-22-2002, 09:21 AM
Originally posted by ChadEXer
Well I broke it in to Toms specs but everyone else thinks I didnt give it enough time,,,Tom told me to break it in: start it and let it idle for 15-20 seconds(enough to get the oil flowing) then jump on it and take off,,other than that just dont give it full throttle until about 15 minutes of riding it,,,well im sure i rode it for over 15 minutes before i gave it full throttle????
Im not sure what cam he used but i do know that he grinds his own cams... Im going to call him today and see what were going to do,,,,but i need to do a compression check, if i can find my friend today!!
:huh Chad you need to pull that motor apart and see what kinda special sauce is in that sucka if its already broke....
Well when u get it runnin and you race some modded Zs and Banshees, When you beat them tell them your quad is stock except for a pipe. That will REALLY make them feel bad.
ChadEXer
10-22-2002, 10:02 AM
Well its kind of weird, when I went to Little Sahara I had at least 6 people ask me "is that that TC 505" I havent told anyone except the people on here???:confused: One guy said he just heard some other prople talking about it?? Kind of hard to keep it a secret!! Im glad I got a good race out of it though, I was sitting there watching and that Z400(Yoshimura 450 kit) was pulling every 4 stroke out there then he pulls up and asks if mine was that TC 505, I told him yes and he said well lets see what it will do! The first race against him I pulled him by about 10 bike lengths!!! And i even got a bad start!!
ryewith
10-22-2002, 10:19 AM
damn and that money you were saving for a digi cam will now go to new valves! ... just play'n sorry to hear about the bike, hope it gets back together soon.
ChadEXer
10-22-2002, 10:47 AM
Well it probably wont be until this weekend until we have time to pull it apart and see, hopefully thats all thats wrong with it!!
knighttime
10-22-2002, 11:22 AM
good luck, make sure u have a service manual or you'll have it more f'd up than it already is.
Guy400
10-22-2002, 01:46 PM
Chad, don't you have a TC sticker on the head of your bike? Maybe that's how people know what you've got in your bike.
knighttime
10-22-2002, 01:54 PM
like tc racin isnt all that good, lmfao
ChadEXer
10-22-2002, 01:56 PM
Originally posted by Guy432
Chad, don't you have a TC sticker on the head of your bike? Maybe that's how people know what you've got in your bike.
Yeah but its small and hard to see!!! Still dont know how they know its a 505!!!
Guy400
10-22-2002, 02:01 PM
Originally posted by ChadEXer
Yeah but its small and hard to see!!! Still dont know how they know its a 505!!! All it takes is one person knowing and then at the races everyone knows within 10 minutes. You could have a guy show up with a full Leager chassis but no stickers whatsoever and you can guarantee that within 1/2 hour everyone's going to know about it.
knighttime
10-22-2002, 02:20 PM
Its a shame it blew up, but seriously why didnt tc duct tape a cheap alarm clock on that tickin time bomb.
What if the cylinder is all f'd up? I doubt u can bore that thing anymore. :confused:
Tommy 17
10-22-2002, 02:25 PM
Originally posted by knighttime
Its a shame it blew up, but seriously why didnt tc duct tape a cheap alarm clock on that tickin time bomb.
What if the cylinder is all f'd up? I doubt u can bore that thing anymore. :confused:
its not tcs fault the motor blew... its his own fault for not breakin it in for longer then 10 mins... exspecially a motor that big!!!!! everyone knows u just don't hop on a motor let it idle for 15 or 20 seconds and go like he claimed u have to warm it up 1st!!! even a stock broke in motor it takes a few minutes to warm it up... no wonder it blew up!
knighttime
10-22-2002, 02:30 PM
yeah its chad fault for the most part for skipping the break-in procedure before goin WOT draggin any quad that would challenge him, but tc should have upgraded the valve springs. O well for 3 grand chad got to beat a few quads in the drags, but that seems a little pricey for that little amount of action.
knighttime
10-22-2002, 02:35 PM
Originally posted by ChadEXer
Nah, I still havent blown it up!!;) but it damned sure isnt right!!! It will still outrun your 416 knighttime:)
sounds blown to me, plus there aint no way u will beat the 420ss with the current condition of your 505 :D
Ride400
10-22-2002, 05:02 PM
that sucks i cant believe you spent all that money on the engine and didnt break it in right.
Originally posted by ChadEXer
My first race was against a Suzuki Z400 with a Yoshimura 450 kit in it,,,,I left him out of the hole and beat him by about 8-10 bike lengths!!!
Ok, here, you say you left the Yoshi 450 out of the hole and kept pulling on him....
Originally posted by ChadEXer
I was sitting there watching and that Z400(Yoshimura 450 kit) was pulling every 4 stroke out there then he pulls up and asks if mine was that TC 505, I told him yes and he said well lets see what it will do! The first race against him I pulled him by about 10 bike lengths!!! And i even got a bad start!!
But here, you got a bad start, and pulled him by 10 bike lengths? Whats up with the two different storys?
If TC really told you to break in your quad like that...they aren't too bright....I ran a tank and a half through mine before actually getting on it hard and racing...
Sandragggen
10-22-2002, 06:22 PM
I know how hard it is not to nail it. My 465 is finally supposed to be done this week. I hope I can restrain. I'm staying away from the drag guys for a couple of days. I know people will be calling me out.:(
Jay
MichaelS693
10-22-2002, 06:28 PM
oh yeah heres another tc505 (i belive):D
Thats sweet man, Im working on my 330r, that tc 505 will prolly spank my 330r in a drag hahaha
Thats a TC490 I think...unless he changed it to 505?
The motor that will be in my R has a history of breaking hinson baskets and HD gears...it should be fun! :D
DMC mx400ex
10-22-2002, 07:53 PM
Originally posted by ChadEXer
Im running stock gearing on it!
i dont need a fire extinguisher, this thing will last forever:)
:blah
knighttime2
10-22-2002, 08:12 PM
:eek:
ChadEXer
10-23-2002, 08:25 AM
Alky, I raced that Suzuki a couple of times before I started having problems..Im getting the races mixed up!
NEWs!!!!!!!!! Found out whats wrong with the 505!!! The noise that Im hearing is air blowing out of the side of the cylinder!!! yeap, I blew a head gasket!!! No big problem at all!!! Being that the head gasket is hand made by Tom I will have to send it back to him! Tom is paying for it so it doesnt bother me!! We found out why I blew it too!! We thought the carb was running rich so we leaned it out,,,come to find out it was running lean and we just made it worse,,,the extremely lean condition caused a gasket to blow!!! I found out it was the head gasket after talking to Tom on the phone and messing with the carb!! Tom helped me diagnose the problem!! I had the thing running and pulling much harder than it was(even with a blown head gasket),,,now a new head gasket and Ill be hauling the mail again!!! Heres a problem people have with Lectrons,,,they are hard to get right,,,my bike was too rich sitting there idling, but when you give it gas it wasnt getting enough gas!!! So sitting there idling it was rich, so we leaned it out causing even less gas flow when you hit the throttle!!! I got the Lectron tuned a lot better now, so i get this new gasket and ill be ready to go!
Originally posted by ChadEXer
I got the Lectron tuned a lot better now,
good ta here no enternal damage Chad...now you've only got 11 months, 29 days and 14 hours left to figure out how to keep that lectron dialed in and have it stable all the time.. Good luck man sounds like your gettin close to bein happy..:D
ChadEXer
10-23-2002, 08:41 AM
Nah, Im just going to get it running good on gas while Im looking into getting a FCR for alky,,,Ive got a hookup on a FCR carb for real cheap and Im waiting for that to come through!! Then my next steps are NOS and a turbo;)
Originally posted by ChadEXer
Then my next steps are NOS and a turbo;)
I'd look into meeting with a funeral director..:o
ChadEXer
10-23-2002, 08:56 AM
No really, after I get the alky on it ill leave it alone!!! Except I may get a drag chassis or something,,,but thats only if I buy me another bike to play on!!! Dont know about that yet!!!
Originally posted by ChadEXer
Then my next steps are NOS and a turbo;)
I hope your kidding when you typed this. I've got a months paycheck that says that motor wont stayed tied together if you run BOTH NOS and a turbo on a large bore such as a 505.
Personally, if your into just drag racing, why dont you look into getting a bigger street bike motor and strap it into a drag frame. Put a 929 motor in that puppy....you wont be looking for more power then...just new underwear. LOL!
Eric
ryewith
10-23-2002, 12:24 PM
Glad to hear it's just that gasket. Post some pics of your roost when you get it back in running order.
ChadEXer
10-23-2002, 01:12 PM
Im a loyal 400EX owner!!! Those Z400's wouldnt feel as bad if a street bike motor beat them:)
Blysster
10-23-2002, 01:22 PM
Originally posted by ChadEXer
Im a loyal 400EX owner!!! Those Z400's wouldnt feel as bad if a street bike motor beat them:)
That's just about the smartest thing you've said so far :devil :D
ChadEXer
11-06-2002, 12:17 PM
Got bored today and decided to try the polishing thing!! Here is a pic of my TC pipe and my AC bumper,,both of them were just brushed aluminum but after a couple of hours of sanding and polishing they look real good! I have sent my header and TC midpipe off to be Jet-Hot coated!!! Next thing to do is the side cases!! Dont know if I will do them myself or send them off yet! That is a lot of work!!
Guy400
11-06-2002, 01:01 PM
Put your camera in the toolkit on your EX and leave the cap off. Take your quad to the dunes way far away from your house and ride a whole bunch and make sure you do plenty of wheelies. For the sake of EXR member's vision, hopefully you'll lose that camera and have to buy a new one that focuses.
I swear, I could punch tin better than that camera takes pics.
ChadEXer
11-06-2002, 01:47 PM
Come on now,,,its not that bad!!! At least you can see what it is Im taking a pic of!!:) Dont look like Ill be getting a new camera for a while either! Next thing is a camcorder because my wife and I plan to begin our own porn website:D So looks like this is all I have for a while!!! But I did get me a good scanner, so when I get my pics developed maybe it will get a little better!!!
Sandragggen
11-06-2002, 10:26 PM
Try it Chad....if it breaks then fix it and back off a bit. This is the only way to find the maximum performance. A few weeks back, a buddy 4th of July'd his 440 on 35 shot NOS. Prior to the blow he was running 5.2's (220 lb rider) which is equalivant to about 65 hp at the local strip. EX's have a hard time with 65 hp. On the other hand, I've seen 80+ hp DS's that are reliable. I feel like I'm running the 465 on the ragged edge..Alky473 didn't last long either. If I had to do it all over, I'd start with the largest displacement motor I could find and go from there. Keep us posted on results.
I would still have my stroker if it wasnt for me starting to race TT. I wanted revs, and quick ones, so i traded the stroker and the alcohol carb for 2mm oversive bigger intakes and a lightened stock stroke crank. 65hp from a 440? Wow....
Castor-426ex
11-06-2002, 10:37 PM
Originally posted by ChadEXer
Come on now,,,its not that bad!!! At least you can see what it is Im taking a pic of!!:) Dont look like Ill be getting a new camera for a while either! Next thing is a camcorder because my wife and I plan to begin our own porn website:D So looks like this is all I have for a while!!! But I did get me a good scanner, so when I get my pics developed maybe it will get a little better!!!
Chad i like you and all....but if you plan on making a porn site...you better not be expecting to get paid..:eek: :D hahah
And chanes are by your choices in film equipment....aint nobody gonna be able to see a danged thing...Thank God...lmfao!
Guy400
11-07-2002, 04:41 AM
Why doesn't TC bring anything to Four Stroke Wars?? Nearly all other tuners showed up but TC. A Sparks 690 Raptor won it easily and a Sparks 465 EX came in a distant 2nd.
ChadEXer
11-07-2002, 08:18 AM
Originally posted by Guy432
Why doesn't TC bring anything to Four Stroke Wars?? Nearly all other tuners showed up but TC. A Sparks 690 Raptor won it easily and a Sparks 465 EX came in a distant 2nd.
I asked TC the very same question and he said "2 reasons, first of all I am 3000 miles from there, (thats in Sparks back yard over there), and i have a lot of work that needs to be done here,,,I am the only guy here all the time and build all these motors with my hands only!
Sanddraggon,,which is faster,,your polaris or the honda?????
and which do you find more realiable???
ChadEXer
11-07-2002, 09:36 AM
Originally posted by Sandragggen
Try it Chad....if it breaks then fix it and back off a bit. This is the only way to find the maximum performance. A few weeks back, a buddy 4th of July'd his 440 on 35 shot NOS. Prior to the blow he was running 5.2's (220 lb rider) which is equalivant to about 65 hp at the local strip. EX's have a hard time with 65 hp. On the other hand, I've seen 80+ hp DS's that are reliable. I feel like I'm running the 465 on the ragged edge..Alky473 didn't last long either. If I had to do it all over, I'd start with the largest displacement motor I could find and go from there. Keep us posted on results. Man a 35 shot of NOS?? I thought I heard that you werent supposed to go no higher than like a 25 and that most try to stay around 15!!!?????
Sandragggen
11-07-2002, 11:20 AM
The Polaris, I'm sure will be much faster. I had some issues with the Pol when I first built it but now everything is OK and has been for over a year with no major problems. This weekend at Lil Sahara will be the first time I will have a chance to ride the EX since Ritter fixed it up for me. First jackass build it and he screw it all up...valves hitting the piston. The Polaris is pretty much a drag only quad, meaning not trailable at all. Even though the EX is also on alky it is still ridable. It's to early to tell which will be more reliable. I have them both running right now and I don't want to jinks anything. ;)
I still plan on makin it out to St. joes ta ride that pissed off 411 being a previous 400 sport owner and all...:D just keep er goin till I get out there..
Sandragggen
11-10-2002, 05:29 PM
Come on down. I'll let you take a spin on it. Went to Lil Sahara this weekend and dragged a bunch...I'm gonna be stiff in the morning. The Pol did well only getting beat by the 4 sec Banshee's and one CT350R. The Honda did pretty good to. The 465 beat all the Raptors that were racing, but a 416 on alky with a 100 lb. rider beat me by a quad length. I know I could have taken the 416 if I were on the booze. Oh well it was all fun. I developed a base gasket leak and dribbles of oil was running down the cases a bit. It's going back to Ritters Tuesday to have a copper base gasket installed. 9.5 hour drive, but worth it.
racin 400
11-10-2002, 06:22 PM
Did u have to get a new cylinder for the 505?How much did it$$$$$$$$$.
ChadEXer
11-11-2002, 10:17 AM
Originally posted by 400EX Mac Daddy
Did u have to get a new cylinder for the 505?How much did it$$$$$$$$$.
No, its the stock cylinder bored!
Hey look chad, you got your thread back!
exriderdude
11-11-2002, 11:55 AM
whooooo hooooooo:D
i think this is the first ive posted in this thread:confused:
so, im guessin all that waitin on that 465 was well worth it??
PS,i wana see her run at St Joe's someday
Sandragggen
11-11-2002, 08:30 PM
A few bugs need to be worked out before I go to St. Joe. Every time I call Sparks with a problem I find something else to do. What I did find out is this 465 does not come out of the hole real strong but pulls like a mofo in 4th and 5th. After break in I nailed it and was kinda disappointed but after about 7 hours run time everything started to loosen up and ran alot better. It will get better the more I run it. I only ran gas through it this weekend...next time out it will probably be on the booze. To be honest, I should have left it a 440 and bought a Bomb and modded it out...I think I would be alot happier. I've heard it a million times, but it's true...No replacement for displacement.
ChadEXer
11-12-2002, 09:47 AM
When I was at Little Sahara, after i blew a headgasket and before I knew thats what it was I was pulling everyone out of the hole,,,,then 3rd-4th they would pass me like I wasnt moving!! I knew something was wrong and put it up and didnt find out the head gasket was blown until I was back home,,,,but It was weird how I would still pull EVERY bike on the line by a few bike lengths!, but then it would lose all power! Seems like even off the line it should have sat on its face with losing nearly all my compression?????
Sandragggen
11-12-2002, 09:46 PM
I to was getting a little leakage around the head gasket. I spoke with Sparks and Scott said that Curtis metal O-rings the cylinder so that the copper head gasket has good contact. I'm fat on the jetting to because it ran better once the sun began to go down. This was the first time ridden and I expected that some bugs would have to be worked out. Some of my problem getting out of the hole might have to do with crappy worn Sandskates. Not trying to make excuses, for I may have a lemon....to early to tell.
Jay
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