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toby400ex
10-13-2002, 09:25 PM
when i was racin last round in the hbgp i noticed some pro racers with alot of toe in, i was wondering if that is a better set up for real tight trails. I had a prob with bein to wide for the trails so i need some way to make it easier, it almost looks like the extra toe in would make it wedge in between the trees easier.
cdalejef
10-14-2002, 08:21 AM
LOL....you answered your own question! I like 1" difference between the front of the tires and the rear of the tires. Thats 1/2" toe in.
toby400ex
10-14-2002, 10:35 AM
Thanks, i was just needing some insurance if someone tells me thats too much toe-in.
TRX_Thumper
10-14-2002, 03:09 PM
**** im running 1 1/2 inch toe in...course....the left spindle is bent...left bottom a arm is tweeked...but in the woods in awesome just cant control it on the pavement
10-15-2002, 09:58 AM
well you now if u set it at 10" you will just do wheelies and since the front doesn't tough the ground the wheels will just spin and i got up to 500 mph


do it
toby400ex
10-15-2002, 02:38 PM
Originally posted by LT80onNOS
well you now if u set it at 10" you will just do wheelies and since the front doesn't tough the ground the wheels will just spin and i got up to 500 mph


do it
there you go again
10-15-2002, 05:37 PM
i just call that move kelly the co-ed








how fast were we going when we did that wheelie?

:macho
ridered86
10-15-2002, 05:47 PM
Originally posted by toby300ex
Thanks, i was just needing some insurance if someone tells me thats too much toe-in.

is ther ever too much toe-in:devil
toby400ex
10-15-2002, 06:45 PM
yeah i think there can be too much toe-in i think the bars would go back and forth alot and your tires would start smokin while riding in dirt
ridered86
10-15-2002, 07:20 PM
Originally posted by toby300ex
yeah i think there can be too much toe-in i think the bars would go back and forth alot and your tires would start smokin while riding in dirt


that was a joke, if you still dont get it pm me and ill tell ya all bout it.;) :devil
tprender
10-15-2002, 07:51 PM
You will find that the happy number is around 1/2 in of toe , 1/4 on each side. The more you have the better it will corner, but the bars will wobble in the straigh a ways. With zero is will run great in the straigh( feilds), but not corner good in the woods. You adjust it more or less or the type of track that you are riding that day. Or just leave it at about 1/2 in.
86atc250r
10-15-2002, 08:57 PM
Jeff, do you find that your Cannondale likes to be closer to "0" than your Honda?

Seems that way to me.
cdalejef
10-15-2002, 09:30 PM
Ya, I did at first but now that I have the dampner dialed in its perfect!
86atc250r
10-15-2002, 09:43 PM
I don't have a whole lot of time on the Cannondale yet, but from what I've found so far, it seems to like less toe than my Honda. The Honda seems to get loose in the rear the closer to "0" you get, the Cannondale just seems to turn better.

I've also found after running the 12 hr race on a Moto (with 22" Holeshot XC fronts and 20" XTC rears), that the more I crank down the steering damper, the more confidence I ride with in the woods. Toward the end of the day, I gave the Scotts full crank and I was riding better worn out in the dark than I was when I was fresh and in the daylight...
cdalejef
10-16-2002, 07:16 AM
I know it! That dampner make all the difference in the world!
MEL
10-16-2002, 06:49 PM
jeff, gabe do you guys think there is that much difference between dampners? say the pep vs. a scotts? i'm not real happy with my pep and was wondering which other ones people suggest for xc.