setting up for xc and trail riding..

[treadway47025]

I am setting my 2006 450er up for xc and trail riding.. its red.. I am planning on prm everything.. should I get the .125 0r .190 belly skid and for the swinger skid should I go .190 or .250? I am debating on whether or not to get an oversize gas tank too. whats everyone using and recommending??
thanks

I ask alot of questions and this site and its members are great with helping out. thank you. you guys are great.

[treadway47025]

I was planning on using the prm summit front bumper, prm desert or baja rear bumper, prm pump guard, prm .125 belly skid and the prm .190 swinger skid. Want to get my factory shocks redone by derisi or gt thunder with a zero preload type setup and get a rear linkage.

[spincr4hire]

I'd recommend the GT Thunder dual sprocket guard, you gain a lot of ground clearance over the other skid plates.

[cletusEX]

A lot depends on the terrain you will be riding in. If it is really rocky then get the thickest skidplates you can get. I ran the GT Thunder guard for a little over half a race season and it had so many chunks taken out of it the chain was exposed.

[treadway47025]

well I ride mainly on private land and its alot of rocks roots, trees your general good trail stuff when it comes to hardcore woods riding. I had the .125 prm and a protect stainless on my 250r and held up good. i had ac racing belly and I believe a .190 swing on my 00 400ex did ok. didnt like the belly pan. had an ac belly pan on my banshee and it got warped,. I do believe prm is stronger though.

[oldskoolex400]

seat time

[04TRX400EX]

PRM is definitely the way to go. Depending on what type of terrain you ride, I'd say the .125 belly is good and the .190 swingarm is great - I run it on my 400EX. It has a few scrapes out of it but hasn't even begun to bend. I was thinking about getting the .25" one but saw it in the store and realized that it is overly massive and very heavy.

[Dave400ex]

I have the PRM .190 chassis skid and .250 Z-plate swingarm skid. I don't think the chassis matters as much, but I would get the .250 swingarm skid. Mine has yet to bend. Get the z-plate swingarm skid. When you have DeRisi or GT Thunder do your shocks you will be doing some heavy cutting to allow the linkage to clear. Well worth it though. As far as a gas tank IMS is the way to go.

[treadway47025]

dave400ex do you have any pics?
of your 450

[spincr4hire]

Originally posted by cletusEX
A lot depends on the terrain you will be riding in. If it is really rocky then get the thickest skidplates you can get. I ran the GT Thunder guard for a little over half a race season and it had so many chunks taken out of it the chain was exposed.

I ran the single disc guard all last season with zero problems. The dual seems a heck of a lot stronger than the single, the season will tell I guess. I think the extra ground clearance you gain is well worth it. Along with running 21" GNCC rears, I'm pushing guys that are hung up in the ruts with regular skid plates out of the way. If you are running an aftermarket linkage, its going to be exposed anyway, why not have the extra ground clearance as well.

[xcquad466]

i'm with spinc!

[Dave400ex]

Originally posted by treadway47025
dave400ex do you have any pics?
of your 450

Here's one, I have several.

[treadway47025]

you did like a write up not long ago i think didnt you dave400ex?? btw nice looking quad!

[treadway47025]

ordered my prm stuff today. went with the .125 belly plate, pump guard set, .250 modified for aftermarket linkage which is close to the regular .190 zplate weight, summit front bumper, baja rear. I hope to send my shocks out next. Is it really needed to swap tp an oversized tank or will my stock tank work for running harescrambles...

[Lonestar_R]

How much is GT Thunders dual sprocket guard?

[treadway47025]

I have no clue. its not even on the gt thunder site.

[spincr4hire]

Originally posted by Lonestar_R
How much is GT Thunders dual sprocket guard?
around $140 retail

[treadway47025]

thats seems exspensive. dang.. i'd get a skidplate

[Dave400ex]

Yeah I did a build thread. All done now.

[spincr4hire]

Originally posted by treadway47025
thats seems exspensive. dang.. i'd get a skidplate

skidplates are ok for trail riding. When you are racing GNCC on the rough/rutted afternoon track, ground clearance is nice to have;). Just about everyone I know has the same setup.

[spincr4hire]

pic..

[mike nash]

Originally posted by spincr4hire
pic..


Are you running mud guards on the inner wheel?If so post a pic please.

[Sjorge450R]

you will LOVE the belly skid. Makes rutted areas so much nicer. You slide over stuff. As for the dual guard, i gave been told by many people to stay away from the dual guard. I will be switching to the stainless Lonestar one within the month. I am currently running the stock and lets just say its no better than running nothing...lol

[spincr4hire]

Originally posted by Sjorge300EX
you will LOVE the belly skid. Makes rutted areas so much nicer. You slide over stuff. As for the dual guard, i gave been told by many people to stay away from the dual guard. I will be switching to the stainless Lonestar one within the month. I am currently running the stock and lets just say its no better than running nothing...lol

who's the many people?

[spincr4hire]

Originally posted by mike nash
Are you running mud guards on the inner wheel?If so post a pic please.

yes, i make them to fit the hiper wheels, they are 2 piece so you don't have to take the hub off to get them off.

[spincr4hire]

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[Sjorge450R]

Originally posted by spincr4hire
who's the many people?

shops that i have been going to buy them. Even Laz told me to get his one set up. Idont know, maybe because i mentioned on how everyrace is usually a mud hole.

[Flyin-Low]

Originally posted by spincr4hire
pic..

So, the sprocket is well protected but what about the brake rotor?

+with running everything exposed like that it lowers the life of the chain and brake pads/disk doesn't it?!

-Martin

[treadway47025]

yea. lets see some pics what you are running on the brake side with the sprocket rings

[oldskoolex400]

Originally posted by treadway47025
yea. lets see some pics what you are running on the brake side with the sprocket rings

its like part of a skid plate, they look plastic to me but im not sure

[TWILES]

I'm going to have to agree about the "Dual Guard". To me, thats stupid. Does GT Thunder really like to sell break rotor's? If I was going to really try to protect something, it would be the most expensive part, not the cheap one. If you need a skid plate, BUY A SKID PLATE! You are paying close to $200 for two circles with four little holes and one big one for the axle and 4 bolts that are completely worthless. That would be great if it came with the guarrenty that he would give you all the break rotor's you trashed. He's going to charge another 200 a piece for them. The only situation where the "Dual Guard" would be handy in would be if your skid plate got bent up to the sprocket and it would save the outside of the chain. Most name brand sprockets are harder and stronger than the thing protecting them.

[TRX450RACER174]

I am running the lonestar sprocket guard and mini skid for the disc side. Sorry no pics i am at work and can put some up later, I have raced 6 races with this setup mostly desert and some gp style mx races with no complaints.

[spincr4hire]

ok girls :p, you run a separate guard for the rotor side. You can't see it in the one pic I posted but you can see it in these pics, when I had the single sprocket guard.

[spincr4hire]

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[TRX450RACER174]

Thats pretty close to the LSR one i am runnin.

[Flyin-Low]

how does the sprocket guard attach? Longer sprocket bolts?

I'm prolly just going to make one myself...

the disk guard looks simple enough..

-Martin

[TRX450RACER174]

On the LSR on you just dont use the washers shiped in the kit for the LSR axle, the sprocket guard takes up the thickness of the washers. If you are using a stock axle you will have to washer it away from the sprocket hub. Here is some pics of mine.

http://www.hotboat.com/image_center/data/500/rotor_guard_003_00.jpg

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http://www.hotboat.com/image_center/data/500/rotor_guard_002_00.jpg

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http://www.hotboat.com/image_center/data/500/rotor_guard_001_00.jpg

[Flyin-Low]

sweet, those pics helped alot man..

thanks

-Martin

[spincr4hire]

Originally posted by Flyin-Low
how does the sprocket guard attach? Longer sprocket bolts?

I'm prolly just going to make one myself...

the disk guard looks simple enough..

-Martin
yes, longer sprocket bolts that Laz sends you with the guard.

single ones, yes you could probably make your own, the dual one (inner side) are machined out, not as easy as making the single.

[Flyin-Low]

yeah, no big rocks or anything round here to worry about other than the occasional stump or two so the single would be good enough.

what metals are they both made from?

-Martin

[TRX450RACER174]

The LSR ones are made of stainless steel i believe, not sure of the gauge would have to check on there web site.