450-r Vs 250-r

[Gray33]

hello guys

I have a question for you all.. What do you think is faster/ or the "better" quad of the two. ME and my friends who all ride 450-rs or have a yfz 450 think that you cant compare a 250-r to a 450 because the 450 is just to fast and good.
Personally, I think the 250-r is great but its to old school and its time to retire it. The 450-r is just to fast to be comapred to a "old" school 450-r. I think that if you spent the same money on the 450 and 250 the 450 would come out on top.
I have looked at posts from people who have posted on the 250-r thing and they all say the handling is 10x better. ya, that is probly true But, the 450-r would catch back up because its fast.
Just to keep in mind i own a 450-r so this might be a little bias but what is your opinion on this subject? What do you think would come out on top in the following races. WOods, tt,flat track,motor cross,woods,drag,drifting

my thought:
woods:450-r
tt-450-r
flat-450-r
mx-450-r
woods-450-r
drifting-250
honda 450-r

[Gray33]

hello this is my 450-r and if anyone iwth a 250-r that lives around ohio indiana contact me and we will race to see who comes out on top..Personally i think i can take any one who rides a 250

[kustomfab2003]

Why would you come over to the 250R forum and make a post like this. It is like the Ford VS Dodge, Chevy debate. There are too many variables to even compare.

I personally have a Full Lonestar Chassis 250R with a Duncan Racing 370PV motor in it. I'm just not seeing too many people stand a chance against it, on the track, strip whatever or dollar for dollar spent.

I used to have a Hybrid with a CRF450R motor Athena 488 kit and the list goes on. I traded it for 250R's and will never look back. Alot of it is personal preferance, bnut some of it is $$ and common sense. For what I paid for the Top end on my Athena based CRF motor, I was able ot buy a complete 370PV and have more power and cheaper maintenance.

Just my .02.

Josh

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dollar for dollar the 250r wins by a HUGE amout. top dollars spent on both, you might as well flip a coin

[Scott-300ex]

Is this a joke?

You think you put the same amount of $$$$ into the 2 bikes and the 450 will win?

Buy a new 450 for 7,200

I bought my 250r for 4,000, I've beat every 450 I've raced except for the ones that were fully modded and had paddles, and I was only behind by 2 bike lengths, if I woulda had paddles I prolly woulda beat them.

So I think the 250r is faster, throw a couple mods on and you'll kill 450's, I've only raced modded 450's and don't lose.

There is no "-" in between them.

Oh the 250r is better for drifting? I call it sliding on a quad, and how is that any better on that, to me that can't really be considered a category, just feel sorry for us so give us a win in somethin to make us feel good?

The 450 will catch back up when the 250r out handles it? Cuz you think they are so fast?

You OBVIOUSLY have never ridden a 2-stroke, much less a 250r!

[ChvyCruzen]

You know in a race a lot has to do with the rider than the machine it self. You cant say its all about the quad, yes it does affect how much the rider is able to do ... but its how much the rider does and how fast and how well he/she does on the quad.

This is just like the CRF450 vs CR500 debate. Long story short, some MX guys competed for a best time on a track with their own 450's. Someone loaned them CR500's and they shaved 2 seconds off their best time they got on their own 450 bike!! They were introduced to a bike that they never experienced ... and shaved 2 seconds off their best lap. IMO ... it shows that it can be rider skill and also the bike ... it all depends on how much the bike/quad has to offer.

I think the 250R has a lot more to offer than a 450. So therefore the riders are able to do more and pull better times. I've never owned or rode a 450R, you could say I'm biased or whatever ... but I'm trying to say it has a lot to do with the rider ... and I personally think a good rider on a 450R could do a lot better on a well built 250R.

[Iliketogofast]

Whereabout Ohio/Indiana do you live? I live in Terre Haute, and I'll be more than happy to hand you your *** if you want to meet half way. ;)

On my last trip to the badlands I lined up against about 6 450's - Yamahas and Hondas and one LTR450. The only one that beat me was the LTR (cherry bomb, exhaust, filter), and none of the bikes were stock. That day I had a filter, pipe, and reeds - That's it. They all had at the very least exhaust and filter.

[matt250r21]

I have a built 265R and ride with lots of guys who have built 450's. I can tell you that it boils down to the rider to find out which bike is faster. The two types of quads are that evenly matched when built right.

[Rich250RRacer]

Originally posted by Gray33
hello guys

I have a question for you all.. What do you think is faster/ or the "better" quad of the two. ME and my friends who all ride 450-rs or have a yfz 450 think that you cant compare a 250-r to a 450 because the 450 is just to fast and good.
Personally, I think the 250-r is great but its to old school and its time to retire it. The 450-r is just to fast to be comapred to a "old" school 450-r. I think that if you spent the same money on the 450 and 250 the 450 would come out on top.
I have looked at posts from people who have posted on the 250-r thing and they all say the handling is 10x better. ya, that is probly true But, the 450-r would catch back up because its fast.
Just to keep in mind i own a 450-r so this might be a little bias but what is your opinion on this subject? What do you think would come out on top in the following races. WOods, tt,flat track,motor cross,woods,drag,drifting

my thought:
woods:450-r
tt-450-r
flat-450-r
mx-450-r
woods-450-r
drifting-250
honda 450-r

I read this post and just knew this kid was 15 or 16 years old. I was right.

[ChvyCruzen]

Originally posted by Rich250RRacer
I read this post and just knew this kid was 15 or 16 years old. I was right.

Yeah those young-ums were born too late.... they missed the 2-stroke era by a big margin.

he put the "woods" catagory on their twice :confused:

[Gray33]

ya we can race sometime...i usally go to the "badlands" 5-10 times durning the summer months after we get done with school like june -august.This summer i am working and i am thinking about getting a cheap used 250-r to mess around with to save my 450-r for racing. How much does a used 250-r cost and by the way my all out 450-r i bought at a honda dealer for 4.500 and they said the guy had 20,000 grand into it. hard to belive but i still love it.. and yes i am only 15 and a half years old and i ant very good at spelling and stuff...

we notice, im sure your 15, and in the 5th grade too

[Gray33]

nah i am a freshmen and i get on the honor roll that is how i got a 450-r my mom is like if you get on the honor roll the first 3 9 weeks then i will buy you one. Since my car insure will be 300-400 dollars cheaper

another kid that got a 450 from the parents huh? not to knock you man but you dont know what these 250rs are capable of. I worked for 8 bucks an hour and saved up for my 1987 250r that i picked up for 2800 a few years back and i would put it up agenst your 450 anyday. Not to mention once u line up agenst some of these 265,310,330,350r guys you wont have any hope. Learn about what brought the 450s here and respect the old 250rs and LTs


How did you get on the honor roll with that type of spelling?:confused:

[Gray33]

hey if my parents want to buy me a 450-r i am not going to say no? ANd my parents just want to re live there teen age years through me so they want me to get into the motorcross/quad racing...Also they didnt exactly buy it for me i had to pay half so i paid 2,200 dollars

nothing gets 250r gys going more then when a young 450 rider comes along and thinks his 450 is the best thing since sliced bread and was bought by mommy. We hate it when people dont respect the old 250rs and LT250rs. bottomline is alot of 250rs would hand you your as$, drag, TT, MX, XC you name it, the 250r is the best quad ever built. I rode the new 450s (yami and honda) and was very very disapointed. The most impressive 450 i ever rode was the suzuki 450 bike. My 1987 banshee still took it in a drag too. But these 250rs will dominate your lil 450 so please look into what your talking about, because you definatly dont even want to go up agenst a 265R, let alone a 310 or 330 PV

[Gray33]

how did i get on teh honor roll with my spelling?

I have many ways i dont even study....i just share answers with my friends and stuff. ANd i am just seeing what your guys opinion is i ant trying to start a fight or anything. Ok, so when you/or if you already have kids you arnt going to buy them a quad?

when they are 6 or 7 yes i will, but once they get old enough to work, they will go to work. I started working at 3 dollars an hour helping out on my father construction sites when i was about 11. By the time i was 13 i was making 6 dollars an hour, when i was 15 i was up to 10 dollars...etc. I think alot of kids shoudl work for what they have, because it isnt always going to be givin to them

[Gray33]

my point.. you will buy them one when they are 6 or 7 and i never had one at that age. SO my parents saved 1.000-2,000 there so you are kinda being hipicrite on that. You say that i am "spoiled"
since my parents helped me buy a 450-r but yet you will buy your kids one?

once my kids are old enough to work, they are on their own. I started riding when i was 3, and bought my own toys and parts since i was 11-12

[Gray33]

ya but you worked back when there wasnt any labor laws man.

[Nac's22]

dude im 19 and just got my first 250r and it aint nearly as built as some of the ones you will see and trust me when i tell you this. the 250 WILL take the 450. my friend has a 450r with exhaust,jets, air filter, and hrc kit and i made it look like a 90 bro... ok well maybe not a 90 but i beat hin pretty bad. there is no comparison. i have been working since i was in 6th grade man and i have worked for about 90% of the stuff i have. unlike alot of people who ride 250rs i know both sides of this and the 250r is faster.

[ChvyCruzen]

Originally posted by Gray33
ya but you worked back when there wasnt any labor laws man.

Who said he worked for business? Anyone who is 11 can work... mowing yards, shoveling driveways, raking yards, cleaning/waxing cars, repainting houses etc etc ... You can get plenty of money from that, I know I did when I was 12 I saved up like 500 just from winter season in KY ... we dont get much snow there either.

[atvmxr]

hey your talking about a 450 cc against a 250 cc .... If you want you can try to race against my LT500 and see how pathetic 4 stroke power is when compared to similiar cc size :devil:

but since the 250r has such great turning manners and etc. it will still take you on the track in the hands of a good rider :D

[strnge]

I was on a 88 and 89 250R's at 18 years old, when you weren't even thought about yet. I am old enought to be your father......MAN I'M OLD!

:eek2: :eek2:

[lamar76]

Hey I was always Thought 250r's were a joke and I hate riding qauds because im small and they whipp my ***** ! so need less to say my friends talked me in to trading my 04 and 06 bikes for a freakin 87 250r with alot of mods! funny thing is I love it ! it may wiegh a little more then one of my bikes and it is awsome fast! my friends have 450r and im not the best rider in the world and I smoke them! im 30 yrs old and didnt know what i was missing maybe you can ask daddy to get you one and see what you think ! not bashing you 450 I think they are nice qauds but not even close to a 250r

im going to hate selling my R but one day i am going to pick me up/build me a aftermarket frame CR500 link, 310 or 330 pv with LT shocks :D :devil:

[Gray33]

how much is a used 250-r i am willing to pay 2,000-3,000 my dad wants to buy him a new quad and i mentioned a 250-r to him and he said he wants to test ride one to see how he likes the way it feels.SO if he gets one i will ride it to..

[esr250r86]

My trx250r completely smokes my trx450r by like 10 lengths. I do have an esr310pv though.:rolleyes:

[Gray33]

how much did the esr310pv cost you?

[wilkin250r]

How well do them 450s hold up in sand drags?

[Crazy lil punk]

Originally posted by Gray33
nah i am a freshmen and i get on the honor roll that is how i got a 450-r my mom is like if you get on the honor roll the first 3 9 weeks then i will buy you one. Since my car insure will be 300-400 dollars cheaper

Thats bull, I go to a prep school, And I worked my *** off to get a race ready 250r, mommmy and daddy didnt pay for it, all payed for and built by me, a 15 year old, stop posting here, go to another section, you are a disgrace to all the younger riders/racers right now

[TWILES]

I think all the 4-strokes end up handling a little better. The power they have it completely usable. I've had a few quads, 250R being one, and the 250 Krank-It motor was awesome BUT the same power coming from a 450 is easier to ride and manage. I don't see the 250R being out dated my no means. The frame is still being copied to a certain extent on the Honda and Kawasaki 450's and every aftermarket frame ever made. If the motor had a powervalve like the CR, it would be up-to-date. Anyone who would say the 250R is out-dated has NEVER examined the 450R. Its basically the same with a different motor. If you compared stock to stock, the 450 wins. If you build them out as far as you can go per ATVA CC limits, the 450 wins. In between where the world normally lives, the 250, dollar for dollar, wins. $1,500 in the 250R motor and you have 50+ HP. That in the 450R ( 04/05 ) and you have a pipe, FCR carb, and $200 towards the $1000 CRF ingition to get it to rev like it needs too. Then $400 cam and piston and your close. I rode one with all that and my 250R and Banshee still would have been the faster ride but if porting was brought in, there would have been no contest.

[HB416EX]

I will never buy a 450 because of guys like you,plus I hate them.Looking for a 250R,still:rolleyes:

[wilkin250r]

Originally posted by Crazy lil punk
Thats bull, I go to a prep school, And I worked my *** off to get a race ready 250r, mommmy and daddy didnt pay for it, all payed for and built by me, a 15 year old, stop posting here, go to another section, you are a disgrace to all the younger riders/racers right now

Nothing wrong with parents buying toys for their kids, whether they deserve them or not.

Some people have it rough, some people have it easy. That's life, deal with it. We will NOT tolerate you giving somebody a hard time about it, just because they have more than you.

You got a problem with it, keep it to yourself. :mad:

[Crazy lil punk]

Originally posted by wilkin250r
Nothing wrong with parents buying toys for their kids, whether they deserve them or not.

Some people have it rough, some people have it easy. That's life, deal with it. We will NOT tolerate you giving somebody a hard time about it, just because they have more than you.

You got a problem with it, keep it to yourself. :mad:


I am not trying to start anything, My parents had more then enough money to buy me a brand new race quad, but they are teaching me a lesson for life by making me buy and build my own bikes, the thing that makes me mad is this kid is starting stuff in a 250r forum when he has no buisness to. You don't just come into a forum and make a thread like this. excuse me if I offended you wilkin

i think alot of this issue has to do with alot of 250r guys dont look at their quad as just a bunch of bolts and screws slapped together. We know their will never be another 250r and we know what it costs to keep them in running condition, where as 450 guys can just trade their quad in and pay a few bucks and get a brand new one, where as us 250r guys havnt been able to get a new one since 1989

[wilkin250r]

Originally posted by Crazy lil punk
excuse me if I offended you wilkin

It's not about offending me, it's about the integrity of the website. We don't need people starting fights and calling other people "a disgrace" just because their parent's make slightly different choices than your parents.

I knew this thread was likely to cause trouble, so I've been keeping my eye on it. Honda86 came close, but YOU crossed the line. You don't tell other members to "stop posting here".

Rule #1 at the bottom of every page.

[fords4life]

I started out on the 250R that I have. I have ridden my friends 400EX that has a full exhaust, intake and filter lid, and been re-jetted. I really like the pull of the 2-stroke over the 4-stroke. I like the hit that you feel in the powerband, it definitely makes it more challenging for me since all my friends, except one banshee ride thumpers. I have had to learn to keep it revved up, but the riding is getting easier as i practice(I've only ridden 5 times). No, i'm not young, but just didn't have the chance to get started till now(23). Only thing that can be hard is the gas mileage compared to the thumpers.

That bein said........ Can't we all just get along???? :blah:

BTW - my buddy with the 400 was tellin me i should wait and get a used 450r for another grand over the 250r, but then he rode the 250r.....I think you all can guess what his next thought was :devil:

[trx250r180]

i have a 450r and a leager 250r with 310 kit,i like them both,but have to admit the 4 stroke doesnt get me as tired as my 310 does,and ive been on a 2 stroke since 1990 and never thought id ever hear myself say that id actually like a 4 stroke

[Crazy lil punk]

Originally posted by wilkin250r
It's not about offending me, it's about the integrity of the website. We don't need people starting fights and calling other people "a disgrace" just because their parent's make slightly different choices than your parents.

I knew this thread was likely to cause trouble, so I've been keeping my eye on it. Honda86 came close, but YOU crossed the line. You don't tell other members to "stop posting here".

Rule #1 at the bottom of every page.

alright, good enough, but I still think that there is no point to this thread, but thats not my buisness, so I'll stop, and sorry for whatever personal attacks I caused

u know i think any honda is a great mother puckin' quad so y u all pickin on the freshy. im a freshy and u no wat i like my 4 stroke so y dont u all get out and ride and not pick on a fellow rida. OK so just puckin go balls to da walls and ride them rompers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Scott-300ex]

You think your 450 is so fast it will kill everything.

Go ride a 250r, I know wut you'll next words will be.

Then you'll see why we all stick up for them.

And I'm thinkin dan250x is Gray with another name deffending himself.

:rolleyes:

[Gray33]

"I have a question for you all.. What do you think is faster/ or the "better" quad of the two"

FIRST POST...

That is the sole purpose of the thread, and you have no right to tell me not to post and i never knew you all were goin to get all mad at me because of this post I am sorry if I did anything wrong to make you mad.

2nd of all to the guy who acts all bad because he bought his own quad. 1. Yes my mom and dad paid some but only half.. and you dont know the whole story so why you say that momy and dady bought it and stuff. 2. Yes, my parents have the money to lend me to buy a 450R. but read the bottom of the thread if you dis like a person keep it to yourself man. 3. and its a freedom of speech man i can post on a subject on here if i want.

And i really dont think i am a disgrace to younger riders on here. I am a country boy, not a town boy like you so we are goin to have a way differnt opinion i am from a small town who only has 2,000 people in it and you are from a town that has over a mill. Anther thing that came in mind to me while i was reading your your posts was. Why are you posting on this thread if you think it has no purpose? That brings me to the #1 thing at the bottom of the page:
Rules
1. If you don't like someone, make believe you do or don't respond. Personal attacks will not be tolerated

Yes, if you read the 2nd part of the rule it says "dont respond", And yes i probly has it easier then you we are pretty wealth farmers but my parents worked hard all there lifes and they can do with there money to what they want to do with. Anther thing if i am a disgrace to the younger riders what are you. Personaly i think you are inmatture and need to grow up a bit. nothing personal.

I am kinda let down by the negative feed back on this thread. This website usallys has pretty good feedback and the people are friendly but this is the first time i have had a complaint so i will suck it up but i am very let down by the negative feed back.
-Gray-

[Crazy lil punk]

Originally posted by Gray33
"I have a question for you all.. What do you think is faster/ or the "better" quad of the two"

FIRST POST...

That is the sole purpose of the thread, and you have no right to tell me not to post and i never knew you all were goin to get all mad at me because of this post I am sorry if I did anything wrong to make you mad.

2nd of all to the guy who acts all bad because he bought his own quad. 1. Yes my mom and dad paid some but only half.. and you dont know the whole story so why you say that momy and dady bought it and stuff. 2. Yes, my parents have the money to lend me to buy a 450R. but read the bottom of the thread if you dis like a person keep it to yourself man. 3. and its a freedom of speech man i can post on a subject on here if i want.

And i really dont think i am a disgrace to younger riders on here. I am a country boy, not a town boy like you so we are goin to have a way differnt opinion i am from a small town who only has 2,000 people in it and you are from a town that has over a mill. Anther thing that came in mind to me while i was reading your your posts was. Why are you posting on this thread if you think it has no purpose? That brings me to the #1 thing at the bottom of the page:
Rules
1. If you don't like someone, make believe you do or don't respond. Personal attacks will not be tolerated

Yes, if you read the 2nd part of the rule it says "dont respond", And yes i probly has it easier then you we are pretty wealth farmers but my parents worked hard all there lifes and they can do with there money to what they want to do with. Anther thing if i am a disgrace to the younger riders what are you. Personaly i think you are inmatture and need to grow up a bit. nothing personal.

I am kinda let down by the negative feed back on this thread. This website usallys has pretty good feedback and the people are friendly but this is the first time i have had a complaint so i will suck it up but i am very let down by the negative feed back.
-Gray-


I already apologized for what I said in a post above. If you ignored it, thats fine, and if you don't except it, thats cool to. And how you stated "freedom of speech" doesn't that mean I have a right to an opinion weather you like it or not also? Lastly, in your last paragraph, you said you were down about the negative feedback, well I'm sorry man, but with good feedback comes bad, sorry if I am "over stepping" my boundaries again, but I can't just sit back and let some one think I am some one I'm not.

[Gray33]

Nah man i dont accept your appologie because 4 out of 5 comments on this thread were all dissing me and negative and you didnt start saying good things till the guy threatend to kick you off the site? ITs kinda funny how some people act tough but then when someone says somthing they back down from what they said and act all nice?

2nd of all for all of you who care. Me and my friend raced over christmas break and it was a close one and them things are fast almost killed myself on it. But, sadly i still love my 450-r but i beat him on a mx track because he was experienced but it was a tie on the trails and drag it was close but i came out on top but this was a stock one.

[Crazy lil punk]

Originally posted by Gray33
Nah man i dont accept your appologie because 4 out of 5 comments on this thread were all dissing me and negative and you didnt start saying good things till the guy threatend to kick you off the site? ITs kinda funny how some people act tough but then when someone says somthing they back down from what they said and act all nice?

2nd of all for all of you who care. Me and my friend raced over christmas break and it was a close one and them things are fast almost killed myself on it. But, sadly i still love my 450-r but i beat him on a mx track because he was experienced but it was a tie on the trails and drag it was close but i came out on top but this was a stock one.

this is my 5th post, I only posted 4 times before this, just to let you know, and If you don't accept my apology now, or forever, its cool, because I can't make everyone happy. And the moderator has nothing to do with this, leave him out of it, he pointed out what I wasn't alound to do, so I tryed to prove my point in a more respectful way. What I think is what I think, and there is not much you can do to change that. And I never back down, didn't in this thread, and didnt ever. And lastly I'm not acting "tuff" just stating something I feel strongly about bud.

[csr250r]

Originally posted by Rich250RRacer
I read this post and just knew this kid was 15 or 16 years old. I was right.

Hey know dont be a sterotype... this kid did his research. I bought and 89 250r for 3800, all these guys on 4 strokes talk **** but i havnt found one to beat my sparks 265r.:D

[312R1]

All I have to say is if it wasn't for R's like this you wouldn't even be braggin about the 450...All we ask for is respect for the quad that got sport quads where they are today!

[Crazy lil punk]

Originally posted by 312R1
All I have to say is if it wasn't for R's like this you wouldn't even be braggin about the 450...All we ask for is respect for the quad that got sport quads where they are today!

sweet R man, what are you doing with the top end? just a rebuild? or something off the wall?

[312R1]

Originally posted by Crazy lil punk
sweet R man, what are you doing with the top end? just a rebuild? or something off the wall?

Thanks,
I'm getting ready to finish my ground up rebuild...I have a PC2000 on the way for it.

[250r4life]

gray... who taught you how to type?

you want some good feedback? study...

[jaspurx]

All the top pro`s ran 250r`s with only 2 exceptions ( Doug ZGust , Kory Ellis)to my knowledge a few years ago. Then there was the Pro Production class , which was seperate from the pro class. The ama had to take the 2 strokes out of pro racing to get the top pro`s to switch to 450`s to get a 450 to win the pro class. Seems like a no brainer there! Of course this move brought the factories back into racing so it was not the worst scenario , but it took the ama to get rid of 2 strokes to get the 4 strokes winning.

If Doug Gust could not win against a 2 stroke , you tell me which was better.

[Gray33]

acutally i am getting a "A" in my keyboarding type mrs.clause is teaching me how to type. Like i said guys i road a 250-r and all i can say is "WOW" handling is good, fast a little to fast I almost killed myslef goin off a hill up in the big hillls of ohio. Yes, i like my 450 so i can race but i have conviced my dad to buy a 250-r it is all pimped out for 2800 its goin to be his quad and he is just goin to race in the open series or something and go trail riding.

Thank you guys for finally talking me into riding a 250 they are pretty dang fast. And great handling, anther plus is the powerband it is great. I take back what i have said and i am goin to be a man and say "I was a dumb butt(A)(S)(S)!" for thinking a 450 was faster then a 250-r. The one i am getting is a 265 and all new plastic its goin to be fun

[mineralgrey01gt]

definitely sounds like they convinced you about them!

[312R1]

Well I'm glad that the R has your respect now..:devil:

[Nac's22]

yea thats awesome that your gettin one man..... 265 is alot of motor have some fun with it and take care of it and never make that mistake again.... haha :p

[Gray33]

Originally posted by 250r4life
gray... who taught you how to type?

you want some good feedback? study...

Originally posted by Scott-300ex
You think your 450 is so fast it will kill everything.

Go ride a 250r, I know wut you'll next words will be.

Then you'll see why we all stick up for them.

And I'm thinkin dan250x is Gray with another name deffending himself.

:rolleyes:

hey man im dan from massachusetts ok not gray or who ever that kid is and u know wat 250rs are cool but y u picking on him u f'ing computer mullester puckin @ss hole how bout u just look at urself and go home f@ggot

[Gray33]

Thanks for your support dan, but i can stick up for myself and there is no need for you to stick up for me and get in trouble for it. And yes guys i am goin to try to sneak a ride in on my dads new 250r every chance i get...

[badquad]

As I read all the post, all I can say is the 250R is a bad machine.. I have a 250R, and it is with a stock cylinder and I keep up with the 450's. Just remember this:

ANYBODY CAN RIDE A 4 STROKE, BUT IT TAKES TALENT TO RIDE A 2 STROKE!!!!

^^^ exactly. I been riding a banshee for a long time now and people are amazed how well i work the clutch in the woods :D

long live the 250r and 2 strokes!!

[Gray33]

Ya, guys it rained like 4 days straight and it finaly stoped and me and my dad and friends went muddin today and the 250-r ran great for the first time we had it. basicly me and my dad always got stuck and my friend with a grizzly had to pull us out..sport quads ant ment to go muddin in a flooded river lol..

[jaspurx]

I have a 250R that has a little work done to it , 40 or 60 over , port& polished of course ( according to the prevoius owner) and I got a DRI 275pv sitting here , I just dot the gaskets and new rings today , I just need a 36mm carb to throw the cylinder on!

As it sits , I ran circles around a yfz with some mods on it. the only place where I got to give it to 4 strokes is that the powerband hits a little lower , and there is more traction to be used compared to my wheelspin , but the yfz could not even catch me in the corners when I`m trying to get traction from my spin. I have always had 4 strokers , my R is my first 2 stroker , but I`ll never get rid of my R , I`m going to stockpile parts!

my 250R is way better for my riding style than the puttin around 4 strokers. Even in the snow I like my R better!

Like I said before , the atva had to dump the 2 strokes to get 4 strokes winnin!

Originally posted by Gray33
Thanks for your support dan, but i can stick up for myself and there is no need for you to stick up for me and get in trouble for it. And yes guys i am goin to try to sneak a ride in on my dads new 250r every chance i get...

hey man im just defenin myself alright gray. i could care less bout if a 450r could beat a 250r just defendin myself not U!!

after reading these posts i lost all my respect for a person i never met u are lieing constenly and you think people dont notice gray you are definatly gay or your a dreamer please change your name on this site so i wont have to see those stupid posts from you anymore and i will think its just another noob and stop saying you have stuff which you dont.

[07250ex]

what thread and how long ago did we discover he had a blaster?

[beobe99]

Originally posted by Gray33
hello this is my 450-r and if anyone iwth a 250-r that lives around ohio indiana contact me and we will race to see who comes out on top..Personally i think i can take any one who rides a 250

:rolleyes: what a ***!

[Gray33]

dude you guys are the one who posted on a thread that was like 3 months ago...

[csr250r]

I love 250s & 450s, they are both competitive with eachother on most non-race basis u could easily make one beat the other with mods, Its just that the 250 is 20 years old & it still runs with em... imagine if they still made em and they still raced in pro class, you got to remeber that the factory 450s prolly get a rebuild after a couple races i seriously doubt that they would be reliable that way. I know i would rather rebuild a 2 stroke than a 4 stroke neday, i just think its BS how the aMa and epa and lawsuits and w/e are killing the 2 strokes, i mean i see it happening all over with bikes and just starting with snowmobiles, this has to be stopped.

[Scott-300ex]

I'm with you ^^^^^^^^^^csr250r.

I'd rather rebuild a 2 stroke than a 4 stroke to.


And I'd much rather RIDE a 2 stroke than a 4 joke anyday.

[atvmxr]

wow, how do posts like this get started to begin with? What do you expect when you go to a model specific forum and ask if that model is faster than another????


Maybe I should go to the artic cat forum and ask them if the DVX is faster than an R..... I wonder what their response would be :D

[Gray33]

woah u are smart

[ingleful]

Originally posted by Gray33
hello this is my 450-r and if anyone iwth a 250-r that lives around ohio indiana contact me and we will race to see who comes out on top..Personally i think i can take any one who rides a 250


welll iguess you could try to take any one who rides a 250r but i doubt you could beat 93% of them .

[wilkin250r]

You know what. This thread has gotten really ridiculous.