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ATC_KING
03-19-2007, 03:27 PM
i want to see you people do a wheelie with out the rear brake and if you dont use the rear good job. it is a lot harder

sparta4188
03-19-2007, 04:27 PM
i actually have never used the rear brake while wheelieing, maybe my reaction speed is to slow because i am sometimes lazy:o

400EXTRA
03-19-2007, 05:19 PM
i can do it for a while, but i can ride one all day with the rear brake

jsmith2232
03-19-2007, 08:25 PM
theres no rear brake doin' this one!!!

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f283/jsmith2232/JOESPLACE001.jpg

ATC_KING
03-20-2007, 02:40 PM
good i thought that people were going to give me a hard time for saying that. j smith ive tried that on my 200x but it hurts to much on the back of my knee. i took off my rear brake because when i jumped and bottomout my cal. hit my pipe. plus it didnt work when i bought it. im going to get it rebuilt this summer.
:)

jsmith2232
03-20-2007, 07:29 PM
Yeah, I have the same thing on my 200s and on my buddys 200sx, check out this video I made of my trike doing some muddin'

Trike muddin video (http://s49.photobucket.com/albums/f283/jsmith2232/?action=view&current=muddinwithtrike.flv)

Kickstarts-suck
03-21-2007, 09:26 AM
I never use the rear brake, you cant shift with your foot on the brake.

But when you get into 5th gear its kinda scary knowing you cant hit the brake if you go to far back.

I wish I would have gotten some pics of me doing my thing before I killed my 250x but it kinda happened out of the blue.

jokester
03-21-2007, 02:50 PM
dude its easy as hell to do a wheelie without the rear brake.

ATC_KING
03-22-2007, 10:42 PM
that video didnt work. hey jokster i know that it is easy to do a wheelie i said that on my first post. what do you mean by you killed your 250X? what is a 250X is it a 4 stroke or 2 stroke?

Kickstarts-suck
03-22-2007, 10:47 PM
Originally posted by ATC_KING
that video didnt work. hey jokster i know that it is easy to do a wheelie i said that on my first post. what do you mean by you killed your 250X? what is a 250X is it a 4 stroke or 2 stroke?

I broke the counter shaft in the motor and I was tired of fixing it all the time so I parted it out.

Its a 4 stroke. honda 250x made from 87-92. Its exactly the same as the 300ex but its a kickstart and smaller stroke making it 250cc.
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/274/dscf0007tp2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

TravEX
03-24-2007, 03:28 PM
Great trike video!!!

jd450
03-25-2007, 11:00 PM
not using the rear brake is simple, all about throttle control. here's one from when i had my yfz.......no rear brake up there..


http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y44/jd450/000_0461.jpg

ATC_KING
03-26-2007, 02:33 PM
hey jd 450 that is a sweet pic hard to do that on a ATC with one front tire.. :eek2:

jordan_400ex
03-29-2007, 04:04 PM
i dont even have back brakes

400EXTRA
03-30-2007, 04:46 PM
Originally posted by jd450
not using the rear brake is simple, all about throttle control. here's one from when i had my yfz.......no rear brake up there..


http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y44/jd450/000_0461.jpg

why did you sell it?

jd450
04-01-2007, 03:08 PM
good question!!!! i regret selling it SOOO fck'n bad! but......i sold it b/c the plan was to finish paying it off then get a streetbike. well, just after paying it off my truck blew its headgaskets ($2,400!!!!!!!!) so that kinda put a halt to getting a bike. now, i took out a loan for 1K (i used tax returns to cover the rest of the work on the truck) and i've only made one payment so i still owe around $900. im going to the bank this week to see if they will let me extend that loan and i'll get a used R6 or F4i. if not, then i'll have to wait a couple more months until i pay it off.


trust me, i miss that damn quad alot!!!! i should have never sold it.

TXATVRIDER
04-04-2007, 01:07 AM
My Banshee is fun as hell ridin' wheelies. I'm enjoying it while i can before i put my +6 swing arm on it.

TXATVRIDER
04-04-2007, 01:08 AM
P.S. No brake either, i think it would mess me up more if i used it it's all about throttle

Nate_450R
05-02-2007, 12:45 AM
JD---just wanted to say thats a crazy pic man...i printed it off and showed a budy a while back (we were talkin about different things to try) and he's real close to getting it. but i must say...nice job.

the only time i use my brakes is if im about to put it back on the grab bar...and since my pipe extends about 2-2 1/2 inches past the bar i really dont wanna slam it on the ground. otherwise no...throttle is the way to go.

csr250r
05-03-2007, 05:12 PM
i never use the rear brake unless i feel the grabbar hit hard and it start to get swirly. most the time letting off is enough:D .

trx400EXtreme
07-18-2007, 02:11 PM
no rear brake is pretty easy once u get the balance thing down.

ATC_KING
07-19-2007, 01:47 PM
yeah but if the front starts to go down and you only have 200cc to pull it back up it can be hard.

cr80r
07-19-2007, 10:34 PM
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w283/codybergen123/quadwhelle2.jpg


1986 quadrunner 230 doesnt even hav rear brakes

whiteEX
07-20-2007, 09:38 PM
u don't have to ride the rear brake u just have to find ur balancing point and u have to have good throtle control, i have only used my rear brake when i popped the clutch in 2nd gear and it came up fast and hit the grap bar that when i hit the brake

Kaleigh
07-24-2007, 01:53 PM
if you turn your idle down and keep your revs high then engine braking will bring the front end back down if you past the balance point.. also its easier to wheelie with an ATC..

400exwheelieboy
08-05-2007, 08:21 PM
jd gotta give u props on that pic. and threadstarter yeah its super easy to wheelie with out rear brake. although when i first started i anialated my back bar from going to far back.

ATC_KING
08-09-2007, 02:23 PM
thank you and i have have broke a grab bar or 3 and doing a 12 o 'clock burnouts dont help the swing are and shock.

redrider330
08-21-2007, 07:13 PM
well i have never used my brake brake either just when it is geting ready 2 come bac i will 2 let it down but if ur good wit a throttle its real easy and if u have a 300ex bored 30 over and someone fat like me theres a balnce point almost everywhere on the quad lol

ATC_KING
08-26-2007, 11:22 AM
well im 130 and only 200cc is kinda hard to get back up

LRD450R
09-02-2007, 05:53 PM
well i can't use back brakes becous i do not have them

ATC_KING
09-04-2007, 06:01 PM
cool me too

RagunCajun
09-16-2007, 11:21 AM
Originally posted by TXATVRIDER
My Banshee is fun as hell ridin' wheelies. I'm enjoying it while i can before i put my +6 swing arm on it.
I have the hardest time learning to wheelie on my shee. With so much tire spin, it's hard as a mofo to even get the front end up. I wish i had some asphalt to practice on.

As for my dirtbike, i dont have the balls to try to wheelie that. No grab bar to save me.

Dragon1363
09-23-2007, 05:29 PM
S**T..... i tried to ride a wheelie. What the hell did i do wrong??
: )

Dragon1363
09-23-2007, 05:32 PM
S**T!!! I tryed 2 ride a wheelie what the hell did i do wrong : )

zdowell
09-24-2007, 12:26 PM
I dont get it, so basically you think that if i use my rear brake to wheelie im not as good as someone that does? if your foot is hovering the rear brake what the hell does it matter if i use it. using your rear brake does make it easier but i don't even use it that ofter but i do use it. love to see you guys on a motorcycle and claim you dont use it. there is no grab bar going to save you at 60+ mph.

casey_lamm
09-24-2007, 07:34 PM
got to give you props...one heck of a picture.


Originally posted by jd450
not using the rear brake is simple, all about throttle control. here's one from when i had my yfz.......no rear brake up there..


http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y44/jd450/000_0461.jpg

Dragon1363
09-24-2007, 08:04 PM
Props 2 u too i havent tried that one yet guna have 2 give it a try.

predatorred
10-29-2007, 08:27 PM
here's me without foot on the break....
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/843/p9020114tg8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

jd450 sweet pic !!

trx400EXtreme
11-22-2007, 08:14 PM
fun fun fun. .http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p133/trx400extreme/P4290034.jpg. .http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p133/trx400extreme/P4290029.jpg

The Quad Kid
12-04-2007, 09:47 PM
i use my back brake sometimes usually when i'm trying to ride a wheelie as slow as possible. but ya i could ride a wheelie for miles without the back brake. sometimes i think it's harder to have the coordination to use the gas, clutch, gears, and back brake all at the same time. lol ive been trying new wheelies i'll try to get some pics up

dj_pizzim
12-25-2007, 01:19 PM
Originally posted by predatorred
here's me without foot on the break....
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/843/p9020114tg8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

jd450 sweet pic !!

lol i dont use the rear brake on my quad until the grab bar hits and i only used it a few times on the street bike.

love the pic i love the fact you chose to protect your upper body but then wear shorts and tennis shoes ... reminds me of the guys here in florida that will wear a riding jacket like that will no helmet and flip flops

predatorred
12-25-2007, 01:59 PM
Originally posted by dj_pizzim
lol i dont use the rear brake on my quad until the grab bar hits and i only used it a few times on the street bike.

love the pic i love the fact you chose to protect your upper body but then wear shorts and tennis shoes ... reminds me of the guys here in florida that will wear a riding jacket like that will no helmet and flip flops

lol its 2 hot to wear full suit..! i love to ride that way :)

RaptorLover
12-27-2007, 11:32 AM
Predatorred , you love to ride that way , untill you fall and bust up your knee or something , then theres no more riding anymore...So please ride with your full suit , here where I live is extremely hot , but I still use full kit...

predatorred
12-27-2007, 01:39 PM
Originally posted by RaptorLover
Predatorred , you love to ride that way , untill you fall and bust up your knee or something , then theres no more riding anymore...So please ride with your full suit , here where I live is extremely hot , but I still use full kit...

you are so right man but the pic was taken when i just go for a spin "around the block" when we go for long trips I allwayes wear the full suit.. ! its very very very importent.
I actually fall once from my motorcycle so I know the felling..

RaptorLover
12-27-2007, 02:07 PM
Then everythings cool , BTW NICE Pic !

predatorred
12-27-2007, 02:18 PM
Originally posted by RaptorLover
Then everythings cool , BTW NICE Pic !

THX M8

Honda4lyphe
12-27-2007, 02:20 PM
My back brakes got ripped completly off last year. During the summer, i struggled with wheelies the first week or so, finally i had it. I can do perfect slow wheelies and i can somtimes balence it in one place, its tons harder then it would be if i had a back brake but it can be done with TONS of practice. So yeah, for a year i've been riding, and stunting without brakes. Makes it alot more interesting though.

klutchbuster250
12-31-2007, 10:42 PM
heres a crappy pic il get more when i go home and get on my comp im on a 250 it sucks o obad lol http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z16/atvrider250/myhigchair.jpg

toddreaves04
01-22-2008, 02:06 PM
I can ride 120 feet with out using brakes sitting down on the seat on my 87 250x. I have only been riding sport quads a short time and just recently started practicing wheelies. I have only practiced 5 times so I am hoping to hit 150 to 200 by this weekend (no brake) which will max me out in my yard. Guess I will have to start practicing in the road (dead end with no traffic). I hope to have a video shortly.

bigsam
03-04-2008, 09:04 PM
when i use the rear brakes i hit them to hard and broke my goggles on the handlebars. now i dont use the rear brake on wheelies

ATC_KING
03-06-2008, 11:51 AM
yeah i bet u wont do that agian now lol

05-12-2008, 09:40 PM
Coming from a guy that has been in 3 streetbike wrecks..... Ive flopped 2 wheelies and was ran off the rd at 110.... That rear brake is an ***-SAVER....!! Wheelies are a blast, and a skill, but just beacuse u use ur back brake doesnt make u any less of a "wheelier"...... Being able to CONTROL a wheelie is what its all about... holding the balance point and staying at a constant rate of speed and not accelerating the whole time makes a good wheelie... Lets face it, ANYONE can pop a wheelie... My girl can hold a wheelie for about 50ft on her 400ex and shes rode it about 10hrs total, hell I taught her to wheelie a 250ex in 10 mins... The back brake is a crucial part or contol... Why do u think that stunriders use a rear handbrake??? #1- saftey #2- contol, half of the stunts that the pros do wouldnt be possible without that brake.... If you can hold a wheelie with or "without" the rear brake good for you.... But lemme tell ya, flippin back at 80mph on a 929 with no gear but a helmet will definately ruin your day... Doin 50 on a quad a floppin it is gonna hurt just as bad..... So. in my eyes coverin that rear brake is definately a smart idea. :D

acline
06-05-2008, 12:05 AM
i dont use brake, i always put right foot in seat or grab bar

Clay200X
06-07-2008, 10:49 PM
true ATC_KING but i've sat on my forks before

krt400ex
07-02-2008, 10:55 PM
Originally posted by 01probchild660
Coming from a guy that has been in 3 streetbike wrecks..... Ive flopped 2 wheelies and was ran off the rd at 110.... That rear brake is an ***-SAVER....!! Wheelies are a blast, and a skill, but just beacuse u use ur back brake doesnt make u any less of a "wheelier"...... Being able to CONTROL a wheelie is what its all about... holding the balance point and staying at a constant rate of speed and not accelerating the whole time makes a good wheelie... Lets face it, ANYONE can pop a wheelie... My girl can hold a wheelie for about 50ft on her 400ex and shes rode it about 10hrs total, hell I taught her to wheelie a 250ex in 10 mins... The back brake is a crucial part or contol... Why do u think that stunriders use a rear handbrake??? #1- saftey #2- contol, half of the stunts that the pros do wouldnt be possible without that brake.... If you can hold a wheelie with or "without" the rear brake good for you.... But lemme tell ya, flippin back at 80mph on a 929 with no gear but a helmet will definately ruin your day... Doin 50 on a quad a floppin it is gonna hurt just as bad..... So. in my eyes coverin that rear brake is definately a smart idea. :D


lol...like this?

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u193/without_a_clue/100_1833.jpg

any higher speed wheelie i have ever done...i generally dont use the rear brake, but i do like it alot in slow situations

Keystone_Rider
07-13-2008, 11:23 PM
39 y.o. wheeling, and you can see i don't use brakes.

Keystone_Rider
07-13-2008, 11:25 PM
Here's another

Keystone_Rider
07-13-2008, 11:27 PM
last one

Keystone_Rider
07-14-2008, 01:05 AM
my son, on his second day of doing wheelies, never used his brakes.

krt400ex
07-14-2008, 10:40 AM
those are cheater wheelies...you get all your weight back to hold the front end up rather than using clutch and throttle.

Clay200X
07-14-2008, 08:22 PM
Whats it matter if you do use your brakes ???
i use mine all the time to stop the 4 wheeler in the wheelie position and hold it at the balance point
does that make me wimpy or sumpin??

krt400ex
07-14-2008, 08:28 PM
Originally posted by Clay200X
Whats it matter if you do use your brakes ???
i use mine all the time to stop the 4 wheeler in the wheelie position and hold it at the balance point
does that make me wimpy or sumpin??

i think those are the hardest wheelies

Clay200X
07-16-2008, 12:26 PM
i think so too
took me a long time to git it down

krt400ex
07-16-2008, 02:14 PM
Originally posted by Clay200X
i think so too
took me a long time to git it down


ive been practicing them steady for over a yr now and i still have trouble with them.

Clay200X
07-16-2008, 09:58 PM
ya but once you git it you'll be the talk of the town(or in my case Mcnatt General Store)

mine oftoen dies because the gas in the bowl goes to the back aand then "silence"
(it would probly help if i had some gas in the tank)

krt400ex
07-17-2008, 01:32 PM
Originally posted by Clay200X


mine oftoen dies because the gas in the bowl goes to the back aand then "silence"
(it would probly help if i had some gas in the tank)


lol. thats my problem...and of course when that happens i dont have any engine power to help keep it balanced if needed. lol.

11-05-2008, 04:25 PM
Originally posted by Kickstarts-suck
I broke the counter shaft in the motor and I was tired of fixing it all the time so I parted it out.

Its a 4 stroke. honda 250x made from 87-92. Its exactly the same as the 300ex but its a kickstart and smaller stroke making it 250cc.
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/274/dscf0007tp2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: were did you get that seat cover!!???/ i want it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

11-12-2008, 05:25 PM
Originally posted by ATC_KING
i want to see you people do a wheelie with out the rear brake and if you dont use the rear good job. it is a lot harder

hehe ive been told i could use the rear and when u first posted this i started using the bake break! lol

RIDER11X
12-01-2008, 02:41 AM
I haven't been on much lately, but I must applaud you guys on some great skills. Especially the blue YFZ!!!!! :eek2:

Not to preach, but on a side note, don't underestimate the importance of good riding boots when you ride. I know that my Alpinestars saved me several times from serious injury.

Cool pics, be safe!!!

slvrhwk
12-20-2008, 09:39 AM
Couple little ones

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuU_04fM7UI&feature=channel_page

mhood121
12-27-2008, 03:16 PM
a year? seriously? and im not trying to start nothing but i dont see how wheelies are "stunting" anyway, unless your doing some crazy maneuver while doing so...again not trying bust chops, but a year?

Tommy Warren
03-09-2009, 02:06 PM
this is the way i learned to wheelie! I can do it for at least 4 miles but if Dirt Wheels magazine is correct...the world record on an atv is 2.8 miles and it took the guy over half an hour doing it in circles on a baseball field.

Tommy Warren
03-09-2009, 02:12 PM
If you drag your foot like this it kinda helps balance. it looks kinda cool and feels pretty scary. just watch out for pot holes.

Clay200X
03-09-2009, 07:47 PM
Originally posted by Tommy Warren
If you drag your foot like this it kinda helps balance. it looks kinda cool and feels pretty scary. just watch out for pot holes.
ya it's also good to ruin the bottom of your footwear!!! ;)

shane071489
03-10-2009, 10:23 AM
used to have a ltz 400 wheelies were so easy never even tried to use the brakes got a ltr 450 the throttle response from the fuel injection makes it way diff. and the 18 inch tires spin so much its hard to keep it up its just like learning all over again

yfz816
03-27-2009, 12:00 AM
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o274/draggingass10/videoclips04022007008_0001.jpg

This is the only pic I could find With a skull cap on lol.

atvmaster0927
04-06-2009, 09:20 AM
Originally posted by shane071489
used to have a ltz 400 wheelies were so easy never even tried to use the brakes got a ltr 450 the throttle response from the fuel injection makes it way diff. and the 18 inch tires spin so much its hard to keep it up its just like learning all over again

X2. I was the same way. I had a 400ex and I could wheelie all day long and now I got an ltr450 and its soooo much harder to keep it up! Its such a difference ballance point.

ATC_KING
04-17-2009, 04:09 PM
ok how do you get better at stopies?

Tommy Warren
04-20-2009, 03:39 PM
Originally posted by ATC_KING
ok how do you get better at stopies?

trial and error. the trick is to go over the handlebars a couple of times. on your way to a crash you'll see where the balance point is thats how i did it. but i've now learnt from experience that its easier on the bike and the body to practice with your feet over the handlebars. its easier to bail this way. man I love bailing!!!

dns1764
09-04-2009, 05:56 AM
using the rear brake is crucial. right now i dont use it as much as i should but there is also huge chuncks of yawn missing from where the grab bar digs in. it is a difficult skill to learn but it make you that much better at wheeling

dankbud42o
09-23-2009, 09:25 PM
man those pics are sweet. i dont get how the hell to find this balance point yet. i tried today to ride one and i smacked the grab bar and my new fn pipe on the grass and loosened the pipe. almost want to put the stock on till i learn how to do em...

but can u guys give some pointers? ill be in second and just gun it and i can pop it up np and ride it briefly but i know im not hitting the balance point, im pretty much trying to chase it from falling back down lol. i tried the whole brake deal but i think its too low, as soon as my bar hit i tried hittin the brake but no go lol. idk if im just retarded or what. i can do 2 wheels on the side balanced no problem (in circles, cant get straight down pat yet) so figured id try givin wheelies a shot..what was the methods that u all used to learn wheelies? do u guys clutch it or what? thanks. im starting with one foot on the grab bar and other on peg wit rear brake...

Tommy Warren
09-23-2009, 09:32 PM
try try try again. you'll learn to feel the right spot. if you can try in a higher gear then it won't come up as fast. And to get your bicycle to go straight you need to lean farther over. good luck