USMC

[Hondaracing819]

Is anyone on here planning to be a marine, is a marine, or a past marine???

Im thinking about joining the marines for three reasons

1. They are the baddest mother effer's out there

2. to help pay for college

3. To be honerend for having such a sick job

Basically what is it like and what sould a person considering joining the marines think about?

[dopeyferree]

I am a former Marine, Got out in 2001.
Being in the Marines was a great experience, I decided to get out after 4 years, but I would do it again if I had it to do over. It is hard work but the end result is very much worth it. You should go for it, just to serve your country and being a Marine will be with you forever. :muscle:

[idro]

Originally posted by Hondaracing819


1. They are the baddest mother effer's out there



eh i guess, seals are more badass IMO. had a family member who was one, we didnt know what he did... couldnt ever say.

[bwamos]

Originally posted by idro
eh i guess, seals are more badass IMO. had a family member who was one, we didnt know what he did... couldnt ever say.

SEALS are a special forces unit. You're comparing apples to oranges. ;)

Now, if you were to comapre SEALS to USMC Force Recon... ;)

If I were to go into the armed forced (and to this day, I wish I would have) it woud have been either the Air Force or Marines. Navy's good.. but they would have put me into the nuclear engineering program and stuck me in the engine room of a sub. No thanks.. lol.

Edit: Oh and nothing against Army. I'm an army brat. ;) My dad served 30 years before he got out.

yeah i thought the seals were tougher...both are bad though...i have a few friends in the marines and army and navy, their cool guys

[Krazy KFX]

I'm a former Marine. I was in the Corps for 10 years and enjoyed most of it. I guess it all depends on what MOS you want, me I was Infrantry. I went to nurmerous places around the world I would have not visited if it was not for the Marines.
As far as the reasons you mentioned for joining ...Bad Mother fers, College money etc, Just remember there is a WAR going on so things are different then they were 10 years ago.
A better reason to join would be to serve you country. You can always get college money elseware by next risking your life.

[kick]

Originally posted by Hondaracing819
1. They are the baddest mother effer's out there
Ehhh, up for debate.

Originally posted by bwamos
Now, if you were to comapre SEALS to USMC Force Recon... ;)
Technically, Recon is not Special Forces either. ;)


I just like giving Marines crap. :p


Definitely talk to some Marines before making the leap. It's not so much of a 'sick job' as one may think. Sure, you're going to be the proudest you've ever been in your life, but it's not all dress blues, honor and hot chicks throwing themselves at you. ;)

[hskers82]

Originally posted by bwamos
Now, if you were to comapre SEALS to USMC Force Recon...



Not taking anything away from the USMC Force Recon but they are not in the same ballpark as a Navy Seal.My older brother spent 11 years as a Navy Seal and his body will remind him of it eveyday.The Seals go through the toughest training to become what they are.They only have a 10% rate of people making it through(if 100 try out only about 10 make it).As far as joining the Corp I say do what you feel in your heart is right for you.I work with a few ex marines and they are all the same,"Once a Marine,Always a Marine".They probably have one of the closest "brotherhoods" in all of the armed forces.

[honda4life72]

i want to be a navy seal so bad, or even be in delta force or soem kind of special forces

[250R-Dee]

Anybody can join Recon but there are select units within Recon that are the same level as the SEALS. The Hair Force (Air Force) and the Army have comparable units.

With that being said, pick an MOS that is related to whatever field you would like to study or join the USMC reserve and then attend college. If you decide you want to be a ZERO (Officer) all you have to do is join the ROTC unit at your college. It would be best to pick a college that has a USMC or NAVY ROTC program.

The other option os to go active duty and take college classes at your base. Most of the bases have a college on base. Here in Japan we have classes that are thought by University of Maryland, Central Texas and Michigan. If the college on your base those not offer the field you would like to study you should be able to complete all of the STANDARD freshman and sophmore credits so you will only have to complete the field specific and upper level classes when you leave the Corps and start college. I have many friends who completed Bachelor degrees and Master Degrees while in the military. If you join a unit that deploys a lot distance learning classes are available and they even teach classes on some of the ships. CLEP courses are also free while are in the military.

Semper Fi!! :chinese:

[DF400ex]

Originally posted by idro
eh i guess, seals are more badass IMO. had a family member who was one, we didnt know what he did... couldnt ever say.

In Iraq (I am in the Army Special Operations Community) I had the opportunity to work with Army SF, Army Delta, some Army...um... other forces :D (even more bad *** but don't think I can say the name), Seals, Marine Force Recon. IMO I'd choose the Army SF over them all. They all have their specialties, but the most bad *** people I worked with by far were the Army SF. Although the Seal snipers kicked some major butt in Tal-Afar.

I have a lot of good friends who are Marines and I have nothing against any of them, but the Force Recon guys I worked with were complete D!*ks. They treated everyone like they were peaces of crap, then the Army SF guys we were with had to go help them out cuz they got pinned down by the AIF, lol. They wouldn't even talk to us after that.

[DF400ex]

Originally posted by honda4life72
i want to be a navy seal so bad, or even be in delta force or soem kind of special forces

My bro is going through that whole program in the Army right now. Dude, he said it's no joke. The hardest thing he's ever done in his life. One of the things he had to do was a 7 mile run where he and 4 other guys had to carry a telephone pole on their shoulders the whole time.

If you think you can hack it, more power to ya man. I'm seriously thinking about doing it myself. After all, if you're going to do it, might as well do it all the way.

[Scott-300ex]

I almost Joined in November of 2006.

I was at least 80% sure I was going to be a Marine, I love guns, explosives, knives, all weapons, and reaserched them all and know so much about them all. So I'd be good for it.

I did not join because I did not want to do it for 4 or 6 years.

And the recruiters are also known as "Profesionall Liars" So DON'T BELIEVE THEM. My buddies in USMC and he's heading over in June, he was told by a recruiter "You'll never ship out."

So I would have joined but don't want to be in for that long, stationed by the Ocean or going up state 1 weekend a month for training.

I was going to be Infantry or Apache Helicopter Pilot.

I scored a 58 on the test and he said average was between 30 and 50 so he said I was real good and I could have any job I want.

I thought I was in real good shape you know, 50 pushups to 50 sit ups( 6-pack by the way, just sayin, LoL) to 50 crunches in a row, do all that with no break. And I can do 15 dead hang pull-ups.....................Then I raced a 2 hour XC Race and Damn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yeh I felt that for a couple days afterwarda and the race was a B!t(h, but I won!!!!

So good luck.

[c450Razy]

this is what a marine buddy told me once about the army.

A=arn`t R=real M=marines Y=yet

his big into the army marines rivilary

[Outlaw 50]

Originally posted by Hondaracing819
Is anyone on here planning to be a marine, is a marine, or a past marine???

Im thinking about joining the marines for three reasons

1. They are the baddest mother effer's out there

2. to help pay for college

3. To be honerend for having such a sick job

Basically what is it like and what sould a person considering joining the marines think about?

All the WRONG reasons........only do it for the love of your country and it's citizens.........We are presently at war with an enemy who wants to destroy our entire civilization........That might be a good reason to join........To be one of the few and the proud who have elected to protect the USA from such madness....CONSIDER THIS.......you may give your life.........what is worth doing that????

The three things you listed are NOT good motivation for paying such a price.....they sound like the comments of someone just trying to get attention....sad.

[AbnMP13]

Originally posted by DF400ex
My bro is going through that whole program in the Army right now. Dude, he said it's no joke. The hardest thing he's ever done in his life. One of the things he had to do was a 7 mile run where he and 4 other guys had to carry a telephone pole on their shoulders the whole time.

That's the Special Forces Assessment Course (SFAS) just because you make it thru it don't mean you'll get selected to get the tab. I've known people lose close to 50 pounds in that.....

M - Muscles
A - Are
R - Required
I - Intelligence
N - Not
E - Essential

or "My As* Rides In Navy Equipment"

I've been in the Army 17 years now and I love Marines, was stationed on Okinawa for 3 years. Typically they are some of the most disciplined people in the service.

The Army is the oldest branch of active duty service, the Air Force started as part of the Army. The Marines started as a branch of the Navy.

[m.h.s.c.#527]

My ***
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Rides
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[quad2xtreme]

Originally posted by Hondaracing819
Is anyone on here planning to be a marine, is a marine, or a past marine???

Im thinking about joining the marines for three reasons

1. They are the baddest mother effer's out there

2. to help pay for college

3. To be honerend for having such a sick job

Basically what is it like and what sould a person considering joining the marines think about?

Here's part of the deal...

sign up for any special forces and then opt out...they pick what you do next. Very good chance you will have a rifle in hand standing on a corner somewhere. You won't feel like a badarse at all then. You will pray to your God everyday to spare your life since your survival is based on luck.

If you truly want to to be bad *****, you better practice your mental game first. Most of the top physically fit guys who could physically whip a gorilla end up breaking down in tears in special ops training camp. Many smaller guys make it through.

You will get tortured as part of your training...it isn't for the weak. Most quit just hearing about the torture before it even happens.

If you have what it takes, I hold my hat off to you and say thanks for being part of our country's defense.

Personally, I would do the following...join the Air Force for a few years...then go to college...then go back into the military. You will be in a position to retire at about 42 with very high pay from being an officer. Once you retire and collect 1/2 pay, you can contract back with the military doing your old job for even more money.

[250R-Dee]

hahahahaha... the comments about Marines being dumb always makes me laugh. I grew up on 101st AirBorne, 82nd AirBorne and Hair Force bases. I've met quite a few Special Forces, Rangers, SEALs and AF para-rescue guys who had way more brawn than brains. Most of those guys are like uncles to me. I will never forget my Army heritage nor will I ever downplay my associtiation with the Corps. SEMPER FI!

I can sit here for days telling "dumb Marine" stories that will make you burst a lung laughing but I can also do the same with the other branches. I haven't been around the USCG so I can't pick on them.

Story from '93 on Okinawa:

A Super Typhoon is pounded the bloody hell out of Okinawa with winds in excess of 120mph. Some of my drunken Barracks mates decided to climb the hill behind our barracks and tie a corner of a poncho liner to their arms and legs. The first drunken idoit sailed 300yards to the bottom of the 60+ft hill like a flying squirrel with relative ease. The second idiot had a rough landing but he didn't break any bones. As the third drunken idiot started his "ride" the wind changed directions and slammed him into the 2nd floor of our barracks. His little joyride got him a trip to the aid station so they could patch up his broken collar bone and nurture his severe concussion. His crash into the building looked like something from a Wile E. Coyote vs Roadrunner scene. No, I didn't witness the incident in person because I would have stopped them! The video of the incident was confiscated and used to educate other military members about the dangers of "playing" in a foul weather. He's lucky he wasn't killed!!

During the same typhoon an AF tech Sergeant decided to go watch the waves crash into a local site-seeing cliff from the top of one of the most dangerous places to be during foul weather in OKinawa. The spray from a strong wave shot up 30 feet and ripped him off of the cliff. No, he did not survive this incident because the strongest waves/currents on island are found at this particular site. Fisherman found his body 3 days after the typhoon about 3 miles off island. The ending was not happy and my condolences go out to the family who lost a loved one BUT common sense prevents most people from going to that area during the slightest foul weather condition. Spray from the waves can be viewed 200 yards from the cliff during a MILD storm.

A homesick Army specialist who knew nobody in Okinawa decided he would go AWOL on this little rock, that is only 60 miles long and 13 miles wide at it's thickest width, with only dollars in his pocket and no Civilian attire. Ummmmm.... most places off base do not accept US dollars and military uniforms stick out like Blonde hair on a Zulu Tribesman over here. Ummmm... NO COMMON SENSE AT ALL. He did other stupid crap before this incident so he got a BCD after visiting the brig for a couple months. BCD= Bad Conduct Discharge.

I will not go into specifics but a Navy Corpsmen earned the nickname "Ether Bunny" because he used Ether on sleeping people so that he could have "fun" with them. He was the only person with access to the Ether so it wasn't difficult to find a suspect. He got long vacation at Ft Leavenworth. DARWIN award winner here!!

There are more stories but I'll stop now. There are idiots in every branch of the service. I would rather work with somebody who has common sense than someone who has book smarts but no common sense at all.

It doesn't matter which branch you join when it comes to certain military jobs. People will think you are dumb if you are not a pilot, work in electronics, work on jets, work in linguistics, work in intel, or are an officer. Most of these delusions are based on pure IGNORANCE. AVV/Tank drivers and commanders have to be very smart since there are a lot of computer systems onboard. They are nothing like the old Pershing tanks that can be piloted by jsut about any half sober idiot with a desire to go somewhere. I know for a fact that USMC/Army artillery targeting systems have a very sophisticated control computer and software that require more than just the ability to punch digits on a keyboard. If you put a moron at the controls of a sophisticated computer controlled firing system you will end up with a lot DEAD people or unsupported troops. In all branches of the military, a high GT and/or ASVAB score is needed just to qualify for the technical jobs that lead to lucrative civilian careers. The Navy's nuclear program probably has the highest paying incentive program but the thought of being underwater in a steel coffin for 6 months at time with no women to oogle was not applealing to me AT ALL.....hahaha :blah:

Oh yeah, a recruiter's job is to fill his quota with as many able bodies as possible so that he/she can cover the failure rate of bootcamp trainees and first term contractees. If something isn't written in BLACK in WHITE you shouldn't believe it. Even if you have everything guaranteed in a contract you have to read the fine print because a "needs of the service" clause will always exist.

The military is not for everybody. My platoon of 60 recruits at Parris Island was trimmed to 48 before we even got to the 6th week of training. Half of those were released from their contracts because of "failure to adapt to military life" while the rest were recycled because of injuries. Two of the "failures to adapt" had such an extreme culture shock that they cried every single night for almost 3 weeks. We lost 5 more before we graduated at the end of the 13th week. From that remaining 43 Marines, 3 more people found their way back to civilian life after failing to adapt to military life during Marine Combat Training(MCT). MCT was a 3 week crash course in baisc infantry tactics. From the remaining 40 Marines only 27 re-enlisted for a 2nd contract. Yes, I keep in touch with the guys that graduated bootcamp with me.



Scott-300ex: Most military contracts have an initial minimum length of 4 years because it would be DUMB for the military to spend loads of money training someone for military service and then allow them to leave in 2 years. My military training consumed more than a year of my initial contract. Also, you didn't do much research before visiting the USMC recruiter. The USMC utilizes Super Cobras while the Army uses Apaches. If you meet the GT/ASVAB score requirements, graduate at the top of your Army boot camp and AIT school you can apply for the helicopter pilot program at Ft Rucker and become a Warrant Officer. How do I know this? I grew up in the Army and had planned to take the Helicopter pilot route until I got totally turned off by a sub-moronic Army recruiter, a Staff Sergeant, who ignored my mentioning that my uncle was a recruiter in Atlanta, my Aunt was a Drill Sergeant at Ft Sill and my dad (RIP 101st AirBorne) had also served a stint as a recruiter. I mentioned that I had at least 10 family members from both sides of my family in the military and that my older brother was a USMC officer at that time. After hearing repeated lies, I walked out of the Army recruiting office and visited the recruiting offices of the other branches. I spoke with the Sergeant Major for the recruiting district a couple weeks later and he apologized profusely and mentioned that the recruiter in question had been releaved. When I asked why did thsi occur. He said my uncle in Atlanta had reported the incident so the Army started an investigation. The Sergeant Major also served in Nam with my dad and mentioned tha he had bounced me on his knee when I was knee high to a grasshopper on Ft Riley, Kansas.

The Navy was guaranteeing me a Nuclear position that paid a HUGE incentive but training would take almost 2 years and I would have to sign a 6 year contract that would lead to me riding in a steel coffin for 6 months at a time. The Navy recruiter was also a friend who played B'ball with me at the University of Alabama's rec center so he knew about my military background. He tried like hell to sign me but he didn't make any attempts to sugarcoat his offer or lie to me. Actually he treated me just like any other candidate.

Eventhough I scored high on the pre-ASVAB in the office I pissed off the the prissy AF recruiter with ease after I caught him in a couple lies.

The USMC recruiter wouldn't even talk to me until I took their pre-ASVAB test. He was impressed with my score so he told me what he had to offer as far as boot camp and school slots instead trying to sell me something that I didn't want. Every recruiter has his or own style but yes MANY will tell you a blatant lie just to get you to sign on the dotted line.

Joining the AF is not a way to avoid a crappy duty station. For certain MOS you HAVE to do hardship tour during your initial contract. I also have several USAF friends in the "big desert" right now who are serving as security augmentees. Yep, AF people are serving as the security patrols for military convoys!!

The moral of my boring post is do LOTS of research before joining the military. I didn't join until I was 24 so my maturity and my previous exposure to military life made joining the USMC a breeze for me.

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[AbnMP13]

Originally posted by 250R-Dee
Story from '93 on Okinawa:

During the same typhoon an AF tech Sergeant decided to go watch the waves crash into a local site-seeing cliff from the top of one of the most dangerous places to be during foul weather in OKinawa. The spray from a strong wave shot up 30 feet and ripped him off of the cliff. No, he did not survive this incident because the strongest waves/currents on island are found at this particular site. Fisherman found his body 3 days after the typhoon about 3 miles off island. The ending was not happy and my condolences go out to the family who lost a loved one BUT common sense prevents most people from going to that area during the slightest foul weather condition. Spray from the waves can be viewed 200 yards from the cliff during a MILD storm.


Bolo Point, someone dies out there during every typhoon. I was on Torii Station and we had to send patrols out there before the storms hit to chase the stupid idiots away. But thumbs up to the Japanese for constructing buildings to stand up to those winds. I went thru at least 4 typhoons per year and never lost power to my home.


Originally posted by 250R-Dee Scott-300ex: Most military contracts have an initial minimum length of 4 years because it would be DUMB for the military to spend loads of money training someone for military service and then allow them to leave in 2 years.

For a total of 8 years, 4 active and 4 in the ready reserve meaning you can be called back to active duty.


Originally posted by 250R-Dee The moral of my boring post is do LOTS of research before joining the military.

Exactly, I talked to ALL recruiters before I joined and the Army was the only one that could guarantee the location of my first duty station.

BTW, great post 250R-Dee!

[DF400ex]

Those were just my opinions based on my experienced in Iraq. My best friends, and grandfather were marines, I respect them.

To me, service is service. Every job had to get done and I applaud those who have the intestinal fortitude to join the military, especially now and with how the media negatively spins what's happening overseas.

While I may talk crap about other branches, most military people do, and we know it's just for fun. Personally I like the Army the best, that's why I joined it, and people of other services say the same about their branch.

[250R-Dee]

Marines give other Marines more crap than anybody but we get a little "touchy" when other people do it:D

I purposely did not bring up the inactive reserve portion of the contracts. Even the old 2 year contracts had a 6 ~ 8 year inactive reserve clause in it.

I think ADMIN and MP are the most hated jobs in the military. IF the ADMIN pogues aren't losing your paperwork the E-1 Barney Fife's are flexing their deputy sheriff powers.... hahahahaha

I can't talk crap about the squids because fixed my bones when I broke 'em and gave me rides to exotic hell-holes when I needed it. At least they don't wear those goofy bell bottoms anymore:blah:

[idro]

Wow... this thread turned lame real fast.

1) You people making fun of another branch need a head check. Don't dog on another branch until you have paid your dues. And members from different branches dog each other, but when it comes right down to it we both need each other...

2) Every branch is essential, and they accomplish the mission they are intended to do and all of the members pull their own weight. Being in the military is all about being a team, 1 person doesnt win a war. Americans win wars.

[hskers82]

Hey AbnMP13,do they happen to call bolo point "the toilet bowl" by chance?I did two 7 month deployments in Okinawa('95 and '97) with my Seabee battalion and I dove at Maeta Point(I think that is how you spell it).They said when the tide would go out it was like someone flushed a toilet.I bought my dive gear at tori station and kadena air base.Also dove out at White Beach but it wasn't anything special.Did projects on Futema air base,NTA,and the Marine Corp base by Naha

[250R-Dee]

idro - eventhough we (the different branches of the military) chastise each other a lot these jokes go to the wayside when it's time "to get busy". :D Talking tash is a tradition that will never die. Look at the Army vs Navy collegiate rilvary!! AF and USCG do not rate because they are too young...hahahahaha

Actually, this thread is good because a lot of people with actual military experience have posted some good info. If you want to see something, put a grunt in the same room as a tech and grab a see because you will hurt yourself laughing at the cutdowns :blah:. I don't think any of us military guys are taking the potshots serious. I posted the examples of dumb people from each branch so the civilians can get a correct picture of the military. In other words..... idiots come in all colors and can be found in all the branches of the military....hahahaha. I earned my right to be called a US Marine so I have to protect it's honor, even if I know somebod is joking. Returning a cutdown is just a part of the joke :D.

hskers82 - you are talking about Toilet Bowl out at Maeda Point. If you ever come back to Oki you should take a dive trip over to Kerama Island or Mina Island. If you do came to Okinawa you probably will not recognize this ROCK. There's a monorail in Naha now that runs through Kokusai street and connects the Airport to Shuri Castle. They are supposed to be extended it to Okinawa city sometime in the future. Mihama has a new shopping center and Hotel. The Expressway is being extended all the way down to the Airport. There are several new beaches open to the public. The former military housing base that was between Naha and Camp Kinser is now a new town with a huge shopping area, a new international high school, a Civic center and many million dollar houses.... blah blah blah

Quiz: Which Branch of service has the highest standards for recruits?

USAF
USA
USMC
USN
USCG

[DF400ex]

Originally posted by 250R-Dee
IF the ADMIN pogues aren't losing your paperwork the E-1 Barney Fife's are flexing their deputy sheriff powers.... hahahahaha

Ooh man that is so true, lol

[AbnMP13]

Originally posted by 250R-Dee
Quiz: Which Branch of service has the highest standards for recruits?

Who can keep up with this? Remember when it was a requirement to have a HS diploma? That went out the window! Remember when you used to have to have at least a 90 on the ASVAB? Now that's gone too! At least for the Army....

For the first time in several years the Army recruiters made their quota last year.... :eek2:

BTW, I used to resemble the Barney Fife remark! Notice MP usually has a prefix? The prefix is usually dam*! LOL

[idro]

Aint that the truth, everytime me and my friends bro get together its always flyboy vs. grunt trash talk. :cool:

And about the quiz, its probably a trick question. Do you mean physical standards or testing standards? If its physical I would say marines, if intellect/testing standards I would say AF or Navy.

[kick]

I know a guy that can't get an ASVAB score the Army will accept :lol:


He's actually bought a guide to taking the ASVAB now :o

[250R-Dee]

Here's the skinny puppy on ASVAB scores.

USAF - 36 but can be waivered down to 21. 65 for GED holders.
USA - 31 but can be waivered down to 26. 50 for GED holders.
USMC - 32 but can be waivered down to 25. 50 for GED holders
USN - 35 but can be waivered down to 25. 50 for GED holders
USCG - 40 but can be waivered down to 25. 50 for GED holders.

The US Coast Guard is the most difficult to join and turns down more applicants than any of the other branches. Just having the minimum ASVAB score is not enough to get a person in the USCG. If you have a GED, your score has to be higher than the minimum of 50 and at least one year of college with a GPA of 2.5 or higher is a must to be concidered. No, this is not written but it is a standard.

The waivers for each branch are anywhere from 1% to 10% of the total recruiting pool so you have to get a really high score in order to join the military with a GED. High GED score with college will get you into almost any branch of the military.

The US Army has the largest population so it has the most difficult job of making it's recruiting quotas and also has the highest turnover rate.

Advanced enlistment rank up to E-3 is available for all of the services but a 6 year contract is REQUIRED. No matter the length of the initial active duty contract all initial contracts are for 8 years after you add the inactive reserve requirement.

Jobs that demands a strict adherence to protocol and the ability to adapt on the fly without over-analyzing a situation require an unmatched level of common sense and aptitude. Neither brainiacs nor imbeciles fit that description. For most military jobs a well rounded person is needed but there are jobs that require low IQ workbees and high IQ anti-socialites.

Physically the Army and the USMC have the toughest physical fitness standards for recruits.

[hskers82]

250r dee is right on the enlistment.My initial hitch was a 4 year enlistment with a 1 year extension for my school(heavy equipment operator) and then had 3 years of enactive reserves for a total of 8 years.While I was in we had guys sign for 2 years(we called them 2 by skates) active but then they had to do 6 years of reserves.Also all branches rib each other,it is the way of life for military pesonnel.H*ll just watch the Army/Navy football game every year,I guarantee they are all talking smack but at the end they show each other the respect of standing at attention while the other sings their song.I have been stationed with marines(our military training in weapons,patrols,fighting position location was all taught by gunnery sargeants from the corp that were assigned to my battalion).While I was in Okinawa we had "devil dogs" from the 2nd marine expeditionary unit come and teach some classes.We would go out of our way on the weekend to go to Camp Schwab to get these guys so they could party with us.

While deployed to Honduras in '98 some of my fellow seabees decided to mess with some army personnel in the shower tent by drilling a hole in a bar of soap and tying a string through.They then would throw the bar on the deck and pull it towards them and would ask someone to pick it up.I have never seen guys empty out of a shower as fast as the army guys did.We ended up getting told to stop messing with them because they were not used to that type of behavior(military personnel have a sick sense of humor when you spend 7 months overseas)

[AbnMP13]

Originally posted by 250R-Dee
Physically the Army and the USMC have the toughest physical fitness standards for recruits.

I don't know about that, I've talked to some Drill SGT's who just left Basic Training Land and the PT for the Army is getting to be a joke. Hell, they even let them have their cell phones back on the weekend and after they finish basic they allow them to smoke while they finish their AIT. I was appalled! I'm glad I got my Drill SGT duty done and overwith, all Drill SGT's seem to be now is professional baby sitters....:(

[DF400ex]

I know a girl that scored a 32 on the ASVAB and had to retake it. she got a 38 and joined the AirForce.

hskers82
I was a 63E/21E as well when I initially joined. Man I loved that job. When did you go to AIT at Leonardwood? But I then decided I wanted to do more of the soldier thing and joined Civil Affairs. They just changed it from 38A to 38B cuz we get involved with combat and go on patrols with the infantry a lot.

As far as Drills being baby sitters go. It all depends on where you go for Basic. Some installations have stricter rules, but as a whole the standards have dropped to keep the numbers up. Just in talking to my bro who just graduated from Sand Hill (Ft. Benning infantry OSUIT BCT and AIT) I have come to realize the changes that have happened in the 4 years since my basic. They had 2 weekend passes where they could go to the shoppette, and use the internet, among other things. We didn't get that until 2 days before graduation. I went to Ft. Lennard wood for BCT and AIT. When we were in AIT we could immediately tell where the new guys went to BCT just by the way they acted. The guys from Benning and Lost-in-the-woods were alot more squared away and the guys from Jackson were not so squared away as a whole. Now there were exceptions to each, but as a whole that's how they were.

[hskers82]

I went through my equipment training in Gulfport,MS in '94.I went before they integrated all of the armed forces to one school

[DF400ex]

Originally posted by hskers82
I went through my equipment training in Gulfport,MS in '94.I went before they integrated all of the armed forces to one school

That's cool. All you missed was alot of cold and woods, lol.

[450ERRRRRR!]

First, I thank you for even considering the Military. I spent 4 of the best years of my life in the 82nd Airborne Division. I wish I'd stayed and done 20 more! I had a few buddies who were marines and knowing them made me think less of the corp.
If I hafd it all over again here's what I'd do .
Go Army
Go Infantry
Go AIRBORNE.....Then Special Forces!
Why? Cause in the Marines you always around a big group of fellow Marines. These Green Berets work in small groups in the most exotic places and get without a dout the best equipment.
They are paying some BIG bouns after completing training.
I got to stop right hear and say again, Thanks for even considering joining any of our Armed Services. When most of todays spolied rotten youth is to whimpy to even consider it. My nephew said he didnt want to join because "I might be killed"
Here's a FACT. Tell your sissy friends and concerend parents that you stand a much bigger chance of being killed in a car wreck or a Homocide than in the Military.
You can only do these thing when your young so do it and when your old you will have many storiesto tell!
Nothing against the Marines but if you want to be one of the baddest go Special forces or Rangers and then apply for DELTA FORCE.
While stationed at FT Bragg NC I,ve seen these guys in cilivan clothes even with beards carrying Hugh Rucksacks on there backs miles from no where doing a little keeping in shape.
I wish I could sit down with you and show you some pictures I took during my 4 years in the Airborne. When I'm 80 years old I'll still remember those 4 years as the Finest Years of my Life!

[DF400ex]

Originally posted by 450ERRRRRR!
First, I thank you for even considering the Military. I spent 4 of the best years of my life in the 82nd Airborne Division. I wish I'd stayed and done 20 more! I had a few buddies who were marines and knowing them made me think less of the corp.
If I hafd it all over again here's what I'd do .
Go Army
Go Infantry
Go AIRBORNE.....Then Special Forces!
Why? Cause in the Marines you always around a big group of fellow Marines. These Green Berets work in small groups in the most exotic places and get without a dout the best equipment.
They are paying some BIG bouns after completing training.
I got to stop right hear and say again, Thanks for even considering joining any of our Armed Services. When most of todays spolied rotten youth is to whimpy to even consider it. My nephew said he didnt want to join because "I might be killed"
Here's a FACT. Tell your sissy friends and concerend parents that you stand a much bigger chance of being killed in a car wreck or a Homocide than in the Military.
You can only do these thing when your young so do it and when your old you will have many storiesto tell!
Nothing against the Marines but if you want to be one of the baddest go Special forces or Rangers and then apply for DELTA FORCE.
While stationed at FT Bragg NC I,ve seen these guys in cilivan clothes even with beards carrying Hugh Rucksacks on there backs miles from no where doing a little keeping in shape.
I wish I could sit down with you and show you some pictures I took during my 4 years in the Airborne. When I'm 80 years old I'll still remember those 4 years as the Finest Years of my Life!

Well said! I agree whole heartedly.

If didn't join the reserves and wasn't going to college that's what I would do, well if I could do it all over again.

I worked with the 82nd ABN in Iraq and they were some of the most professional infantry guys I ever worked with. We had a whole company pulling security for my 5 man team as we did our BDA's and assessments of Tal Afar last October. Deffinately felt safe with them covering my back!