06 450R Crank bearing failure

[Chino886]

I think I am victim of it, does anyone know the cost of repair?

My quad sputtered to a stop and the kicker was locked up! :grr:

[chad502ex]

sorry, that sucks!!! Let me know if I can help..

[400exrider707]

Im in process right now with my 05. I started tearing into it, but mine seems it might be rod bearing. Im putting in a new crank setup and new crank bearings anyways. With gaskets, crank bearings, swingarm bolt and the spacers for the bolt (it had to be torched out) Im a hair over $300, which isn't bad at all.


Chad quick question for you. Im order an 05 crank from servicehonda. From what I can tell it comes with one new bearing, and the sleeve that is the "update" kit. So I would still need to separately order the bearing for the other side correct? Anyone ahve the part number for the other bearing not included with the crankshaft? Thanks.

Originally posted by Chino886
I think I am victim of it, does anyone know the cost of repair?

My quad sputtered to a stop and the kicker was locked up! :grr:

That's a bummer.

How often do you change your oil?

[Chino886]

Originally posted by TRX450R_Racer
That's a bummer.

How often do you change your oil?

Every ride just about! I don't ride that often!

[xsr_racing28c]

I feel for you man, I just hope its not too bad! Keep us posted on what you find..

~Jay

[Chino886]

Originally posted by xsr_racing28c
I feel for you man, I just hope its not too bad! Keep us posted on what you find..

~Jay

will do!

[Honda#4]

Sorry to hear that Dave. Hope you get it running again, just when you get brand new A-arms your bike takes a crap.

[400exrider707]

Have you looked at the oil filter yet? Mine was full of metal shavings.:ermm:

[lumi]

first see if the kicker has become tangled. and second check ur oil filter that should show some type of wear and shavings. first check the side case to see if anything has become binded than tear into it

pretty rare with the 06's.

good luck.

-lumi

[chad502ex]

I know i still owe another flange thickness dimension,... i've been busy but I'll try to get this evening...

[Chino886]

If my crank bearings failed should I go ahead and replace the crank as well?:confused:

[N300exJ]

Yeah usually its not the crank bearings but the lower connection rod bearing on the crank that locks up. I thought 06/07 450r's didnt do this? I rebuilt my 05 450r almost 4 months ago and its going strong.

This is news to me about this happening to newer r's. Not good at all......

[400exrider707]

Chino mine turned out to be the rod bearing... The rod is frozen solid right to the crank. LAME service honda here I come...

[Sjorge450R]

Im prying I can get to Summer break this year before anything happens. If something happens next weekend when Im in Florida I will be SO piss''d.

[Chino886]

Originally posted by 400exrider707
Chino mine turned out to be the rod bearing... The rod is frozen solid right to the crank. LAME service honda here I come...

Pulled the oil filter out, lots of metal pieces in there!

Found out the bike has a Honda Protection plan still in effect, should I take it to the dealer and pay $175 to see if they will warranty the motor?

[xsr_racing28c]

Eeeeeeek... Dave, I'd first talk to them and see if this is something they thing they can do through the service plan first before I'd trust someones word on it. I guess its gotta be the lower end. Thats a shame!!!

~Jay

[Chino886]

Well I think I am going to bite the bullet and see if they Honda Protection Plan will cover it!

Anyone want to donate $175?

[xsr_racing28c]

I wish I could donate that to you..unfortunatley I just ordered my hardkor rear hubs and 175 still wont cut it...

I hope everything works out for you Dave, I had my finger's crossed for you...........


~Jay

[Chino886]

Jay, forgot to tell you, got the hubs tonight, thanks!

Now tell me what I owe you! :p

[Honda#4]

Dave i could donate you some money. I need something in return.

[xsr_racing28c]

Honda#4: I would edit that last post of yours. You kind of left yourself wide open with that one.. You can expect some vulger posts to possibly follow it..:D

I'm gonna pm you right now..

~Jay

[Chino886]

Originally posted by Honda#4
Dave i could give you the money, but what can you do for me?

LOL!

416 piston, new clutch, clutch gasket, new head gasket T2 bars......

$300! :devil: :devil:

[Honda#4]

Is that better Jay!

[Honda#4]

Thats way to much for me Dave, I was just thinking a Cam would be plenty.

[xsr_racing28c]

haha... that's a little bit better ..:cool:

~Jay

[Chino886]

Originally posted by Honda#4
Thats way to much for me Dave, I was just thinking a Cam would be plenty.

I don't have an aftermarket cam

[Honda#4]

Dang!!

[Drag450R]

Ya when my 06 crank went out it was the rod, seized to the crank just like 400exrider said. my bearings seemed fine, I replaced the big side bearing, but left the smaller bearing. Hopefully that won't come back to bite me later!! I really didn't need to replaced either bearing, they looked just fine!!

and when my crank went it just didn't lock up and stop running, it died on me and we pop started it, cause the battery went dead from cranking. but it started right up, but when I went to put it in gear it died. it started up and ran for a few minutes then would die and be locked up, but would be free again later after it cooled down. Eventually if finally locked up for good, and I took the top end off and the rod and crank were now one! the rod bearings were all chewed up and in between the crank and the case leaving me nice little chips out of the case around the crank. and the reason it finally locked up for good was a piece of the rod bearing lodged itself in between the rod and crank. the last few times it ran it was making a clanging sound....which was the rod bouncing off the crank!! I found the rod bearing retainer/race at the bottom of the motor in the oil reed valve!! and a ton of copper metal shavings from the crank in the oil filter.

My buddy had a bone stock 06 with less then 8-10 hours on it and his crank did the same thing!! hope my new one stays good for awhile!!

[lumi]

wow these are the first times im hearing about anything on the 06 crank bearings....

hope it aint a mass problem like the older models as it doesnt seem after a year that it is. but looks like honda didnt cure the problem either

good luck


-lumi

[Chino886]

Originally posted by Drag450R
Ya when my 06 crank went out it was the rod, seized to the crank just like 400exrider said. my bearings seemed fine, I replaced the big side bearing, but left the smaller bearing. Hopefully that won't come back to bite me later!! I really didn't need to replaced either bearing, they looked just fine!!

and when my crank went it just didn't lock up and stop running, it died on me and we pop started it, cause the battery went dead from cranking. but it started right up, but when I went to put it in gear it died. it started up and ran for a few minutes then would die and be locked up, but would be free again later after it cooled down. Eventually if finally locked up for good, and I took the top end off and the rod and crank were now one! the rod bearings were all chewed up and in between the crank and the case leaving me nice little chips out of the case around the crank. and the reason it finally locked up for good was a piece of the rod bearing lodged itself in between the rod and crank. the last few times it ran it was making a clanging sound....which was the rod bouncing off the crank!! I found the rod bearing retainer/race at the bottom of the motor in the oil reed valve!! and a ton of copper metal shavings from the crank in the oil filter.

My buddy had a bone stock 06 with less then 8-10 hours on it and his crank did the same thing!! hope my new one stays good for awhile!!

Well, you saw what happened to mine! That is the first time it had ever happened and I have not, nor will I, try to kick it over.

[Drag450R]

ya yours seem to lock up like my buddies 04 did, yours locked up while it was at a higher rpm, my buddy rode my bike came back and parked it, and I went to go race someone and it made it like 20 feet and felt like it was loosing power and died... so it was at idle, but you could have lost your crank bearings. Guess you won't know till you get it taken apart!

[Chino886]

Originally posted by Drag450R
ya yours seem to lock up like my buddies 04 did, yours locked up while it was at a higher rpm, my buddy rode my bike came back and parked it, and I went to go race someone and it made it like 20 feet and felt like it was loosing power and died... so it was at idle, but you could have lost your crank bearings. Guess you won't know till you get it taken apart!

I am starting this weekend so we will see! Hopefully it is nothing! :devil:

[Drag450R]

ya thats what I was hoping for until I took the cylinder off!! and saw my crank and rod had become one piece!!

[Chino886]

Originally posted by Drag450R
ya thats what I was hoping for until I took the cylinder off!! and saw my crank and rod had become one piece!!

Well, the head and cylinder should be off by this weekend if everything goes as planned.

[400exrider707]

Drag450R that sounds more like heat seizing to me. If you did this more than a few times, that could also cause that rod bearing to prematurely wear out from all the stress of seizing numerous times.

When mine went out there was no pop starting or kicking anything. It was locked solid!

[Chino886]

Originally posted by 400exrider707
Drag450R that sounds more like heat seizing to me. If you did this more than a few times, that could also cause that rod bearing to prematurely wear out from all the stress of seizing numerous times.

When mine went out there was no pop starting or kicking anything. It was locked solid!

Yup, that is what happened to mine!:mad:

[Drag450R]

well what could cause it to heat seize that much? I only rode the bike one time after I bought it from some guy in oklahoma.

Ya it would start up and run just fine and once it got a little heat in it, (1-3 min) at idle it would lock up.

Since then though the whole entire motor will be new, so hopefully we won't have that problem anymore.

[450 Racer R]

get a hotrods crank. don't put oem back in because if it failed once it'll definately do it again.

[the yazer]

the same thing happened to my '05 two times. my 450 is still in the shop right now they had to order a some new cases for it. just bring it to your dealer and let the warranty fix it. but why do you have to pay $175 for them to look at it? i did not pay a dime for mine to be fixed