framejob

[Redwing]

Pic of a Rframe my friends just finished. Not sure if this is going to post.

[Castor-426ex]

paint?

[Redwing]

No actually its something called por. Its way stronger than paint. You can hit it with a hammer and it wont chip or scratch.

[Castor-426ex]

oh looks good....:)

[nuttynewt]

POR15... awesome stuff. You're right - you can beat the he!! out of it and not even chip or scratch it. It looks real purty like on that frame.

[MR.EX-TREME]

YEP GOOD CHIT MAN!! BUT IVE NEVER USED IT ON WHEELER FRAMES!! OR MAYBE JUST CAUSE I NEVER THOUGHT OF IT!! LOL!
SHOULD WORK GREAT!!:devil

[redrider ex]

:confused:

[RiPPiNiTuP7]

Originally posted by redrider ex
:confused:

To sum it up....its a very strong paint :blah

[NOS EX300]

Where can you buy POR?? How much??

[redrider ex]

:D

[DEAL]

Nice framejob man, did you happen to do a rimjob while you were at it;) :devil

[330exracer122]

lmfao ne way where can u buy that ish cuz i want it!!!!!!!

www.por15.com ohhh...and it's 85 dolars a gallon

[Sick0]

nice job. I hope it holds up.

[cdalejef]

Its tuff stuff! I use it on Jeep axles. VERY EXPENSIVE!!!

[MOUSE]

better than powdercoat?

[redrider ex]

do you have to order it or do some stores carry it.

look on there site. they might have dealers listed.. the only reason i haven't used it cause i might wanna ramove or repaint some day.. i dunno what it takes to strip it

[Castor-426ex]

probably an act of god:eek:

or 1.21 jigawatts of electric and a flux-capasitor

[Sick0]

Is it better than powder coating?

it will hold up better but dosen't have the .hmm.. lets say bling characteristics of powder coating

[Redwing]

Yea its pretty tough stuff. They have chrome paint. Im thinking about trying it for my 400. Maybe go with the red. Take a look at it here http://www.por15.com/Color%20Chrome.html. I think under the faq for some of the paints it says compares it to powdercoating in some way..but dont quote me on that I just skimmed over the faq. Ca'mon!:huh

[Redwing]

Before---->

[beerock]

ya were gonna rip red wings bike apart soon and do the frame.....

If anyone is interested give a pm or email....

We'll be testing it out in the trails of nj ;)

Hopefully it will be some trick stuff and our bikes will be covered in it.:D

doug (redwing) is doin his frame and im doing my swingarm in the chrome red.

[stocktires]

A lil' custom re-inforcing?

[Redwing]

CAAA'MON BUCK!

[kicker696]

where can i pick up some of that POR stuff, i want some!

[Redwing]

http://www.por15.com

[Redwing]

Q. How does COLORCHROME compare with powder coating ?
A. COLORCHROME is much easier to use and the colors are much more brilliant and dramatic because they're transparent, allowing the brilliance of the chrome or polished metal to shine through! Powder coating is an electroplating process that involves oven baking and noxious fumes. COLORCHROME's colors are not only deeper and more vibrant, but cost much less than powder coating as well.:square

[beerock]

we are going to tr the color chrome stuff..

depending on how hard its gonna be to polish the frame....

[FoxRacing400EX]

POR-15® is sensitive to UV light (sun) and must be topcoated for prolonged exposure to sunlight

Anyone else notice that? For those that have used the product before, what happens when it is exposed to sunlight for a prolonged period of time?:confused: Seems pretty cool, but I think i'd rather powdercoat for economic, and variety reasons.

[Chef]

Originally posted by FreeStylexrider
Nice framejob man, did you happen to do a rimjob while you were at it;) :devil

LMAO!

[Redwing]

They make a topcoat that you put on when your done with the colorchrome. Go to the site and go to the FAQ it explains it there. Besides is your frame gonna be in the sun all day? The plastics cover most of the frame.Beerock you dont have to polish the frame before. It would prob make it look even crazier but in the book raoul has it says it can be painted right over silver paint. ca'mon!

[POR-15]

colorchrome is not uv sensitive only the por-15 rust preventive paint is. The POR-15 can be top coated with any paint so you can get any color you would like.:D any questions on any products goto www.gardenstatepor-15.com then click on tech support. You can also order from this site if you like.chris

[DarkStarRacing]

whats it look like when the bike is put together though ? :devil

[POR-15]

THEY ARE IN THE PROCESS OF PUTTING THE BIKE BACK TOGETHER PICS SHOULD BE AVAILABLE SHORTLY.

[tants]

is it beter then powdercoating? bee has my frame right now, if its beter or just as good ill just let him "POR" it...

[stocktires]

stick with PC tants.
I believe POR15 is stronger, but its not as shiny and its purty much permanant! Por isnt cheap either

[beerock]

I would say the por is shinier then black pcoat....

[kicker696]

I'm looking at doing my frame with this por15 stuff, my only questio is do you paint it on or do you spray it on?

[QuadTrix6]

you paint it on

[beerock]

huh?

we sprayed it on dude, i wouldnt paint it on.:confused:

[QuadTrix6]

o my bad i went on the site and couldn't find a spray, i stand corrected

:o

I would not want my frame to be a "ginnea pig" ..
w/that P O R stuff..I would just stick with powdercoating.

I too just finished my frame in POR15. I brushed mine for a thicker coat....as you can see...there are NO BRUSH STROKES and it looks SUPER!

I have 2 more frames to do ALREADY! SUPER STUFF!

http://www.rriders.com/trx250r_forum/attachment.php?s=&postid=598

http://www.rriders.com/trx250r_forum/attachment.php?s=&postid=599

http://www.rriders.com/trx250r_forum/attachment.php?s=&postid=600

[beerock]

Originally posted by "2-R's Rider"
I would not want my frame to be a "ginnea pig" ..
w/that P O R stuff..I would just stick with powdercoating.

I can see what your agenda is :rolleyes:

you dont have a clue.

We have a friend that raced his r for 2 seasons with por and it still looks new.

P.s.

Its "guinea" pig

RIF:blah

:rolleyes:

[toby400ex]

so how much of this do you really need to do a whole frame, swingarm and a-arms, and it sounded like you dont have to strip the original paint,, so it sounds alot easier than taking it to get powder coated and cost less. This sounds like a good idea too me, why would it matter if its permanent if it doesnt chip?:square

[Fast-n-Furious]

How much does this stuff cost anyways??

32 bucks a court. A court if brushed....can do like 3 or 4 frames with 2 coats of brushing each.

To put in spray cans...it takes 5oz each. Takes one can to coat frame once. Brush goes on much thicker....and settles beautifully. :macho

[kicker696]

one other question, where do i get the sprayer? do i just use a aircompresser sprayer, or what cause it looks to thick to put through the sprayer

[Quadfather]

Yeah, I was wondering what solvent is used to thin this product. I bet a cheap cup gun from Wal-mart would work great for this stuff. Thinned properly, of course.

[forum]

can i get this stuff in say a candy aple red?? or is it only basic colours??

[stocktires]

I think it comes in black and silver. but you can get a high or semi-high gloss black. I believe there is one more color though besides black and silver (maybe clear???).

[2k2-300exnj]

anyone try to mix metal flake into it or a type or prism? i think that would be sooooo sweet

[yellowex01]

I will post pics of my white por15 frame tomorrow.. Also has anyone talked to any of por15's reps? They say do not strip your frame all the way down.. He said to just go over top of the old.. granted you have to take off any loose stuff. If your frame is bare metal as mine was, you have to use the metal prep( it comes in a bottle with a spray nozzle) just spray it on let it sit and rinse with water. Then if it is bare metal you MUST use regular por15 first.. before top coating it. It you are going to use one of there top coats, you have to let the por15 set up just before it glosses over, if it glosses over then you have to use 660grit paper and wet sand it to remove the glossy. I talked to a guy today that totally stripped his parts down to metal DIDNT first coat it with por15 and went ahead and used the por15 topcoat.. He said it started flaking off while putting it into the truck.. They say the nastier the metal the better this stuff works..

[yellowex01]

I dont think you can mix anything like flakes into the paint. I think it would interfere with the flowability of it.. (is that a word?)

[2k2-300exnj]

Originally posted by yellowex01
I dont think you can mix anything like flakes into the paint. I think it would interfere with the flowability of it.. (is that a word?)
lol dont think so i dunno it was just a suggestion thought it would be kool

[Pappy]

i spoke with thier rep today and yesterday. he basically said to follow the directions exactly. if they arent followed it will not work. kinda like almost every other process out there:p

this process will allow a normal fella with a garage and some time to apply a very durable coating on thier frame without the expense and hassle of shipping etc.

i will be very glad to see this stuff in action.

[stocktires]

You plan on doing some anno work pappy?
I LOVE the slogan! lmao!

[POR-15]

A FRIEND OF MINE ORIGINALLY POSTED HIS FRAME. i CURRENTLY WORK FOR POR-15 AND WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU GUYS MIGHT HAVE ABOUT THE PRODUCT.YOU CAN E-MAIL ME AT CHRISTOPHER@POR15.COM OR CALL AT 973-884-3559.WE ARE LOCATED IN WHIPPANY NJ IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED IN COMING DOWN TO BUY THE PRODUCT. THANKS AGAIN FOR USING POR-15. CHRIS

[Pappy]

awesome!!!:D

[mrusk]

Por-15 its good to see you on this board and you are located close to me. You need any help this summer? heh

matt

[POR-15]

NO JOB AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW BUT YOU NEVER KNOW. RIGHT NOW IS OUR SLOW SEASON WE PRIMARILY DEAL WITH AUTO INDUSTRY BUT IT SEEMS LIKE EVERYTIME WE TURN AROUND SOME ELSE IS USING IT.ANY PICTURES WOULD BE APPRECIATED IF THEY ARE GOOD ENOUGH THEY MIGHT MAKE THE CATALOG.:D
I AM DONE FOR THE NIGHT ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS YOU KNOW WERE TO GET ME THANKS AGAIN CHRIS.CHRISTOPHER@POR15.COM 973-884-3559
GARDENSTATEPOR15.COM

[toby400ex]

i know what ill be doing next winter in my gaarage, p o r ing my future xc 400ex, that is if i get it in a month or so.

[toby400ex]

Originally posted by POR-15
A FRIEND OF MINE ORIGINALLY POSTED HIS FRAME. i CURRENTLY WORK FOR POR-15 AND WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU GUYS MIGHT HAVE ABOUT THE PRODUCT.YOU CAN E-MAIL ME AT CHRISTOPHER@POR15.COM OR CALL AT 973-884-3559.WE ARE LOCATED IN WHIPPANY NJ IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED IN COMING DOWN TO BUY THE PRODUCT. THANKS AGAIN FOR USING POR-15. CHRIS

Hey, do you think there is any way that you could put up some pics of the color chrome, such as chile pepper red and lazer blue, i think i would do one of those colors nect winter, this stuff sounds too good to be true.

[dhines]

I've got the complete POR-15 starter kit coming. Are you guys sure you don't have to strip the frame first? Any other tips for applying it?

[toby400ex]

im likin that lazer blue color chrome, it says its for polished metals, does that mean that i would have to use it on a polished frame to make it look good? I think this would be sweet, with some blue plastics and some black por rims.

[POR-15]

JUST SO EVERYONE KNOWS BECAUSE THERE SEEMS TO BE A LITTLE CONFUSION.IF YOU WANT RUST PROTECTION YOU MUST STRIP THE FRAME OF ALL PAINT BEFORE APPLYING POR-15.IF YOU ARE JUST LOOKING FOR A NICE GLOSS BLACK TOP COAT YOU CAN APPLY POR-15 OVER OTHER PAINTS BUT YOU WILL NOT HAVE RUST PROTECTION . ALSO IF THEPAINT UNDER THE POR-15 EVER PEELS OR BECOMES DETATCHED FROM THE FRAME THE POR-15 WILL COME OFF WITH IT.

[POR-15]

AS FAR AS COLOR CHROME GOES ITS BASICALLY A TINT THAT ALLOWS THE SHINE OF THE METAL UNDER TO COME THROUGH.WE ARE ALSO EXPERIMENTING WITH RC CAR BODIES BACKED WITH SILVER METALLIC PAINT AND HAVING GREAT RESULTS. CANDY COLORS. WE HAVE HEARD OF SOME PEOPLE PAINTING SILVER METALLIC FIRST ON RIMS AND PAINTING COLOR CHROME OVER THE TOP WITH GOOD RESULTS.COLOR CHROME ITSELF IS OUT ABOUT 6 MONTHS SO I AM SURE WE WILL FIND OR YOU MAY FIND OTHER WAYS TO USE THE PRODUCT.

[yellowex01]

As promised here is a pic of the whitecoat. Stuff is really nice to work with.. I still have some touching up to do but you get the jest of it..

[toby400ex]

im not too worried about rust anyway, but is the por15 only in black and white, or others,, didnt find different colors on the site..................And for you guys with white or black frames, which color is better for not showing that dirt that ya gotta scrub off of the frame, its almost like mildoo(sp?)

[POR-15]

POR-15 COMES IN GLOSS BLACK,SILVER,GRAY,AND CLEAR.THE WHITE THAT WAS USED ON THE FRAME ABOVE IS CALLED WHITE COAT AND IS FOR TOP COATS ONLY NO RUST PREVENTION QUALITIES.NOW IF YOU ARE JUST LOOKING FOR COLORS AND DURABILITY LOOK NO FURTHER THAN OUR HARDNOSE PAINTS.TWO COMPONENT PAINTS THAT CURE HARD AS STEEL.THEY COME IN GLOSS BLACK,YELLOW,ORANGE,RED,GREEN,BLUE AND GRAY.ALSO THE PREVIOUS MENTIONED WHITE COAT IS PART OF THAT SAME GROUP.

[2k2-300exnj]

kenny i see that u now do por 15 also how does it compare to the powder? i like the fact that it wont chip and all but i like the candy colors and sparkles

[POR-15]

JUST RE READ YOUR POST.WITH POR-15 YOU SHOULD HAVE LITTLE WORRY ABOUT MILDEW SINCE THE POR-15 IS SO SLICK MILDEW HAS A TOUGH JOB STICKING TO IT

[Pappy]

i just got some in here....if i can find the time i will do some test pieces. i am doing a set of a arms but they are in transit and i will have stripping time etc.

yellowex01 has seen this in action....he would be of more value with his expierences and opinions. from what he has told me is some cool stuff.

[POR-15]

COLOR CHROME TOO IS CHIP RESISTANT ALTHOUGH ITS NEVER BEEN THROUGH A BEATING LIKE ON A QUAD.WE DO HAVE PEOPLE POLISH THEIR RIMS ON THEIR CARS AND IT HOLDS UP FIND TO ROCK CHIPS.

[Tommy 17]

Originally posted by Pappy
i i am doing a set of a arms but they are in transit and i will have stripping time etc.



;) :D

[toby400ex]

Originally posted by POR-15
JUST RE READ YOUR POST.WITH POR-15 YOU SHOULD HAVE LITTLE WORRY ABOUT MILDEW SINCE THE POR-15 IS SO SLICK MILDEW HAS A TOUGH JOB STICKING TO IT
sweet,will it still be shiny if i dont strip the grey paint off my frame and put the red or blue on?

[yellowex01]

When I did my frame with the white. I already had it stripped down to the metal. I first used the metal prep, and rinsed it off. Then put a good coat of por15 silver on it.. I didnt have time to whitecoat it right after so I had to let it sit overnight.. Then wet sanded it to take off any glaze on the silver.. Wiped it down again, then put 3 decent coats of the white with a brush.. The only thing I dont like about the brush (even more so with the white) is its hard to get all the runs before they start setting up.. With the black you probably dont even see them.. Doesnt matter how good your are with the brush you gonna get em.. But so far, the product is great.. I cant believe that it doesnt leave any brush marks.. Even in tight spots where you have to dab the brush it still flows out..

If Kenny is half as good with this stuff as he is with the powder, the people that is sending him stuff will be very pleased:)
(if that doesnt sound right it's a compliment)

[Pappy]

i think its a learning curve with the brush. the black shows them also. maybe applied a bit to thick but i think ive got it under control.

[yellowex01]

I think I should of used a little smaller brush.. Cant really see the flaws unless you stare at it like I do:)

[Pappy]

i used a foam brush......it went on great...but a bit heavy. its like anything i geuss...practice practice practice:p

[tants]

is the red shinny? also how much would it cost just to do one frame with a few coats, probly with a brush

[yellowex01]

Didnt think about a foam brush.. So far the stuff seems ok. The real test will be come race season.. See if its as durable as they say... I think we should do a frame for those NC boys.. If anyone can get it to come off it would be them:)

[yellowex01]

Tants I did mine for $80.. That included the metal prep a pint of por15 silver, quart of por15 whitecoat.

[Pappy]

heck.....them boys could break anything :D

[tants]

Originally posted by yellowex01
Tants I did mine for $80.. That included the metal prep a pint of por15 silver, quart of por15 whitecoat.

do you need all that?
im gonna order the stuff soon. also a foam brush works good?

can ya list all the step you did to your frame. i still got spray paint on my frame, what sandpaper grit should i use to get that sucker off?

i plan on doing red. what color metal prep por15 does it have to be?

[toby400ex]

what did you have to use the silver for?

[tants]

anyone who worked with por15 can hit me up on aol...
my s/n is zTantalos61
i got some questions, thanks

[yellowex01]

Kenny. The best thing and fastest to take off old paint was a 4" angle grinder with wire wheels.. Zips it right off.

Step 1. Since my frame was already stripped down, I had to use metal prep to etch the metal to give it something to bite too.

Step2. For proper rust protection and the rep said the white works best with either silver or black underneath. When you put the regular por15 on you can topcoat it pretty quick, you have to give it a finger touch, if it slighty drags with your finger you are good to go.. I had to let mine sit overnight so I had to wet sand it to take the glossy off it.. Sands really easy..

Step3. Then I just put 3 decent wet coats on it. I didnt let it completely dry..It will air dry to the touch in about 30 minutes, but you need to wait about 2 hours in between coats..

From what I have been told, its better to get all the paint off, but this stuff likes rust.. Dont know how true this is but the rep said he did alot of his own stuff and he said the nastier the metal the better barring paint of course.. Also the owner of the distributor that I bought my stuff from said make sure you metal prep it.. He said he had all his parts stripped to bare metal coated it and the stuff flaked right off. He didnt etch the metal..\

Tants the metal prep is a spray you put on let it sit and rinse it off.. Hope this helps..

[Maryland 400EX]

Well guys, I'm a great painter but I'm lazy. I'm gonna use a sponge brush and do mine in red without the hassle of removing the engine and all that other scrap. I'm gonna hit mine "On the fly" and be done with it cause I can't stand any downtime. I can't see removing all that junk just to paint a few visible pieces of the frame. Am I nuts?

[toby400ex]

do right man, or you will have one shotty lookin paint job:p , i think it would be fun to do something like this as long as it isnt because you have to replace something expensive, i never like that.:(

[tants]

remove the motor... dont do a half assed job

do it right or dont do it at all

[Slick]

I am getting ready to order everything i need....i will have my frame white, my lower a-arms red and uppers black...i will have various pieces red and black on the bike.:devil :devil ill let yall' know how it goes and ill have some pics too.:D

[tants]

bump

[d-14 rider 27]

so, how exactly does the colorchrome work now?it just lets the color of the base metal, or paint coat show thru in like a veined look or something? enlighten me