handlebars are hard to turn...

[banshee84]

We recently put some 3+1 a-arms on my GF blaster and the tie rods seem kinda short. They thread on but just about 1/2 - 3/4 of an inch. The handle bars seem kinda hard to turn now. Can this be because the tie rods don't have that much grab? Has anyone experienced this problem?

Here is a pic but it isn't the best.

[88blaster]

sounds more like hiem joint, ball joint, whatever you want to call them, I had this problem with my stock A-arms when the boot had torn and the ball joint was bone dry
Nice blaster!

[1fst400]

somthing looks skrewy with the lower balljoints...

[banshee84]

Originally posted by 1fst400
somthing looks skrewy with the lower balljoints...

Well this picture is old and we raised the ride height a few inches, but I have seen other blasters with these a-arms and they look the same

[400exrider707]

Something is definitely not right with those lower arms.... the whole setup looks very sketchy at best..... I would be scared to ride that thing. The way the lower kingpins look, they would bind during travel...:huh

[300exOH]

Originally posted by 1fst400
somthing looks skrewy with the lower balljoints...

Agreed. Take a look at the blaster at the bottom of this page
http://www.exriders.com/vbb/showthread.php?s=&postid=2698718#post2698718

The lower kingpins are much straighter than yours. You may not have them seated in the spindle well enough. Some a arms call for the holes in the spindles to be reemed(sp). Maybe yours just need reemed out.

[400exrider707]

Originally posted by 300exOH
Agreed. Take a look at the blaster at the bottom of this page
http://www.exriders.com/vbb/showthread.php?s=&postid=2698718#post2698718

The lower kingpins are much straighter than yours. You may not have them seated in the spindle well enough. Some a arms call for the holes in the spindles to be reemed(sp). Maybe yours just need reemed out.

ummmm... thats the exact same four wheeler!:blah:

[300exOH]

Originally posted by 400exrider707
ummmm... thats the exact same four wheeler!:blah:

He he... I think you're right but either way the lower kingpins are in much straighter and further in the link I posted.

[400exrider707]

Originally posted by 300exOH
He he... I think you're right but either way the lower kingpins are in much straighter and further in the link I posted.

Which makes no sense at all because that means that at one point they actually had it in there correctly..... what went wrong... How could you not notice that its not like it was before??

[banshee84]

well in the pic I posted the shocks were too soft and the bike sat too low. That was the first day though. In the picture my gf posted the shocks are brande new elkas and we adjusted the ride height.

The first pi has elkas for stock a-arms but the second pic has shocks for the +3's

The pics are about 2 months apart

Also asr said the spindles didn;t need to be reamed

[400exrider707]

Originally posted by banshee84
well in the pic I posted the shocks were too soft and the bike sat too low. That was the first day though. In the picture my gf posted the shocks are brande new elkas and we adjusted the ride height.

The first pi has elkas for stock a-arms but the second pic has shocks for the +3's

The pics are about 2 months apart

Are you looking at the bottom a-arm? Look where it mounts to the spindle. The pic you posted looks like they are falling out, and the pic that 300exOH posted looks like they are fine ( depends on your definition of fine though)

[400exrider707]

here this is NOT right!!!

[banshee84]

Well I didn;t say they were fine, I guess they weren in all the way on my pic and on the other one they must have popped in all the way from riding. I will examine the front end when I go over there

Edit yeah I totally understand what you are saying

[400exrider707]

heres a nice difference

[400exrider707]

That would definitely cause hard steering, Im surprised it hasn't broken off and killed somone yet! Fix it!!:blah:

[banshee84]

so in the second picture they aren't in all the way?

[banshee84]

look at these blasters

[banshee84]

here is a stock one

[banshee84]

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[tater_kamik]

the one blaster doesnt have the brake guard. is yours binding there? it does look pretty odd at your lower mount, but i havent ever worked on a blaster so... thats the only thing i noticed immediately

[400exrider707]

It's deceiving to look at because of the angle of the lower mount of the spindle. Some of them look like the kingpin is perfectly 90 degrees to the surface of where the nut goes, and your new picture doesn't really look like it is. Check it out anyway and see if is loose or has play, or if there is dirt or something jammed in there.

[banshee84]

Originally posted by 400exrider707
It's deceiving to look at because of the angle of the lower mount of the spindle. Some of them look like the kingpin is perfectly 90 degrees to the surface of where the nut goes, and your new picture doesn't really look like it is. Check it out anyway and see if is loose or has play, or if there is dirt or something jammed in there.

ok, thanks for your help

[broncogurl]

Did you guys understand what he said? The picture he posted is old. I had my Elkas for my stock a-arms on them.

The picture that 300exOH reposted is one from maybe a week or so ago. That one has my new Elkas valved and adjusted for the +3 a-arms.

So if you are saying that the one that 300exOH reposted is correct then we have nothing to worry about because that is how it looks now.

Sorry I'm not trying to sound rude. It just seemed like you guys thought the one banshee84 originally posted was the newest pic we have of it when in fact it is old.

[Toadz400]

Looks like the lower arms just mount up odd no matter what on a Blaster. As long as it's in there all the way and there's no play I wouldn't worry about it, as far as I know nothing is designed right on those things.