Good Bye 250r Hello YFZ

[300excrazy98]

Just wanted to let you guys know taht i am most likely going to be trading my R for a yfz450. It kinda upsets me to see the two stroke go, but i think the 450 will be a better ride for me. Anybody else make the switch?

I probaly wont be in this forum much anymore, so bi guys!

[250r4life]

Originally posted by 300excrazy98

I probaly wont be in this forum much anymore, so bi guys!

if you want to get rid of your R, thats your perogative... but that doesnt mean that you need to say we switch hit :devil: i personally dont enter on the off ramp.


ps... bi is spelled bye :D

[250r4life]

PSS- by the way, yes i did go and purchase a YFZ... although i am not entirely converted and was somewhat forced into the decision, i got the YFZ and the R will probably be sold when i get around to fixing 2nd gear...

[Rich250RRacer]

Originally posted by 250r4life

ps... bi is spelled bye :D [/B]


Maybe he meant he's "bi":D

[oldskoolex400]

i made the switch from a R to a 400 to a yfz if that counts....lol

[300excrazy98]

Originally posted by Rich250RRacer
Maybe he meant he's "bi":D

maybe your a ***, im not ''bi''

[250r4life]

Originally posted by 300excrazy98
maybe your a ***, im not ''bi''

Rich, it appears that is a sensitive subject... :D

[blasterandy]

wouldn't going from an r to a 400 be kinda a down size.

[byrdman37876]

don't sell the 250!!!! keep it and fix it up.

[oldskoolex400]

wouldn't going from an r to a 400 be kinda a down size.

i wanted an XC machine, and something new, i got tired of fixing stuff

[byrdman37876]

hey crazy98 keep the old 250 unless u need the cash. that little devil is an icon.

just think u have a machine that is a part of atv history!!

that is the baddest 2 stroke ever built. handleing was the best.and power.

it's yours and wish u the best but think on it.:)

[CorvetteZ06]

Originally posted by oldskoolex400
i wanted an XC machine, and something new, i got tired of fixing stuff


you must have had a ****ty R. The 250R motor is bullet proof if you have a good setup and maintain properly.

[oldskoolex400]

[QUOTE] if you have a good setup and maintain properly.[/QUOTE

you know how much it costs to have a good setup by the time you get all the heavy duty stuff in the motor? when i can go and get a 450 and right out of the box it is faster

yea it was a big POS like alot of them now, too many years of racing and not alot of it been rebuilt correctly, althought outside it looked great, frame started cracking and i had to tear it down and then right after i got done with the topend i took it out a month or two later and the trans went out it, got that fixed then the piston shattered

the ONLY 250r i would own now is an aftermarket framed one or one stock framed with alot of mods for really cheap so i could get an aftermarket frame and switch stuff over

im not trying to start an arguement here but this was my last experience with owning a 250r

[kiesta00]

sounds like you had your run of bad luck with the 250 lol

[oldskoolex400]

sounds like you had your run of bad luck with the 250 lol

you aint lyin :mad:

[peeping TOM]

Originally posted by oldskoolex400
[QUOTE] if you have a good setup and maintain properly.[/QUOTE

you know how much it costs to have a good setup by the time you get all the heavy duty stuff in the motor? when i can go and get a 450 and right out of the box it is faster

yea it was a big POS like alot of them now, too many years of racing and not alot of it been rebuilt correctly, althought outside it looked great, frame started cracking and i had to tear it down and then right after i got done with the topend i took it out a month or two later and the trans went out it, got that fixed then the piston shattered

the ONLY 250r i would own now is an aftermarket framed one or one stock framed with alot of mods for really cheap so i could get an aftermarket frame and switch stuff over

im not trying to start an arguement here but this was my last experience with owning a 250r

so your saying getting a yam 450 all your problems are solved ?? there gearboxs are pathetic. but good luck.

[oldskoolex400]

so your saying getting a yam 450 all your problems are solved ?? there gearboxs are pathetic. but good luck.

nope, ill get a new one in 2-3 years before stuff starts going wrong :blah:

[oldskoolex400]

oh yea and your an idiot if you think any bike is perfect, something will always be weak on it

[300excrazy98]

well guys i picked up the yfz today. My 250r was a POS everything kept breaking i just about replaced everything! and still a POS.

HOpe the YFZ isnt the same!

I'm with oldskoolex400 get a 450 they are better.

funny thats what they want everyone to do...ride it for 2 or 3 years, then buy a new $6500 quad...thats the worst part about these 4 strokes...i think once these 4 strokes are 5-8 years old, they blow up, then why bother fixing the 2500-3 grand quad when rebuilding the motor is going to cost 1500ish, plus the tires ar bald, bent rims, plastic janked up, etc...its all a plan, theres more reasons then polution to this 4 stroke revolution...its all about $$$...bottomline is in 20 years you WONT see 2004 YFZs runing like the 1985 1986 250r trikes, the 86-89 250r quads and banshees buzzing around....youll see alot of junk 450s in the near futue...while these short produced 250rs are still running strong

[CorvetteZ06]

Originally posted by Honda86
funny thats what they want everyone to do...ride it for 2 or 3 years, then buy a new $6500 quad...thats the worst part about these 4 strokes...i think once these 4 strokes are 5-8 years old, they blow up, then why bother fixing the 2500-3 grand quad when rebuilding the motor is going to cost 1500ish, plus the tires ar bald, bent rims, plastic janked up, etc...its all a plan, theres more reasons then polution to this 4 stroke revolution...its all about $$$...bottomline is in 20 years you WONT see 2004 YFZs runing like the 1985 1986 250r trikes, the 86-89 250r quads and banshees buzzing around....youll see alot of junk 450s in the near futue...while these short produced 250rs are still running strong

exactly, and if any of these 15 year old kids actually go to college and take some marketing classes, they will learn that companies will do anything to make money. do you think Honda wanted people to ride and race 20 year old quads, of course not, they are not making money selling new ones. all these companies are in bed with each other coming up with how they are going to rape their customers.

[GOTFEAR]

I think you hit the nail on the HEAD.

[peeping TOM]

Originally posted by Honda86
funny thats what they want everyone to do...ride it for 2 or 3 years, then buy a new $6500 quad...thats the worst part about these 4 strokes...i think once these 4 strokes are 5-8 years old, they blow up, then why bother fixing the 2500-3 grand quad when rebuilding the motor is going to cost 1500ish, plus the tires ar bald, bent rims, plastic janked up, etc...its all a plan, theres more reasons then polution to this 4 stroke revolution...its all about $$$...bottomline is in 20 years you WONT see 2004 YFZs runing like the 1985 1986 250r trikes, the 86-89 250r quads and banshees buzzing around....youll see alot of junk 450s in the near futue...while these short produced 250rs are still running strong

spot on !!! couldn't have said it better my self . the 450's blow gearbox;s the first year !!!!!!!!!

[garrettagr]

You guys are exactly right. It is all about the bottom line and the 450's are not the best if you ask me. I like the 250r because it has character and it is a classic that can still beat some ***.

[oldskoolex400]

spot on !!! couldn't have said it better my self . the 450's blow gearbox;s the first year !!!!!!!!!

WOW i must have got a good one!! mine is still running strong after 2 years!! :rolleyes:


exactly, and if any of these 15 year old kids actually go to college and take some marketing classes, they will learn that companies will do anything to make money.

i sure hope you learned this before college :ermm:

[Mean250r]

Originally posted by Honda86
funny thats what they want everyone to do...ride it for 2 or 3 years, then buy a new $6500 quad...thats the worst part about these 4 strokes...i think once these 4 strokes are 5-8 years old, they blow up, then why bother fixing the 2500-3 grand quad when rebuilding the motor is going to cost 1500ish, plus the tires ar bald, bent rims, plastic janked up, etc...its all a plan, theres more reasons then polution to this 4 stroke revolution...its all about $$$...bottomline is in 20 years you WONT see 2004 YFZs runing like the 1985 1986 250r trikes, the 86-89 250r quads and banshees buzzing around....youll see alot of junk 450s in the near futue...while these short produced 250rs are still running strong

yeah thats true i guess.

Well i went to a yfz. Best thing i ever done :devil:

[oldskoolex400]

Well i went to a yfz. Best thing i ever done

somebody pay the man!!!!!! :devil:

[NJD]

Originally posted by oldskoolex400
somebody pay the man!!!!!! :devil:



You said it, go out and spend the $$ on a new bike, that's what they want you to do. Go run your new 4 stroke and come back when you realized what a mistake you've made by getting rid of your 250R, I bet your new bike will not be around in 20 yrs like the 250Rs.

[oldskoolex400]

You said it, go out and spend the $$ on a new bike, that's what they want you to do. Go run your new 4 stroke and come back when you realized what a mistake you've made by getting rid of your 250R, I bet your new bike will not be around in 20 yrs like the 250Rs.

quite frankly in 20 years i could give a damn if it is still around, i dunno about you but i sure wont be riding then, ill be an old man, even though i want to push my kids to ride, i want to be laid up in flordia relaxing, maybe not you though, but good luck with that

[garrettagr]

I still like my 250R's. Would not trade it for a 4 poker any day. Not that the power is not there,but i like the 2 stroke feel and how small the quad is. The new 4 strokes seem to be heavy and stiff. You also ride high up and I feel like im going to fall over.

[Mean250r]

Originally posted by oldskoolex400
quite frankly in 20 years i could give a damn if it is still around, i dunno about you but i sure wont be riding then, ill be an old man, even though i want to push my kids to ride, i want to be laid up in flordia relaxing, maybe not you though, but good luck with that

lmao

i was thinkin the same. In 20 years ill be 36 :eek2:

well ill still be kinda young but i prob wont be riding

[jerry-89-250R]

i'm 51 and still riding atv's and sportbikes, and i do have a 250R.

[beerock]

you guys talking about not riding in your older years arent true riders, so go ride what you want lol

my crew is all over 30 and we ride harder then we did then when we were 20 We might not jump as high but we are really fast..... oldest guy is 50 and HE is the fastest!!!

[250r4life]

i know a lady that is in her late 60s to early 70s... she still rides... she has a raptor for trails and what not, but has an 87 250r that she rides in the dunes... it is 100% stock original except for the silencer, paddle tires, filter, and grips... of course, we do have to kick it over for her but after that she is good to go..

[250r4life]

beerock... good to see you around again... how is the back coming along?

[beerock]

good man good thanks for asking, i been riding and it doesnt seem to hurt I even crashed real hard and was ok, my balls werent though hahhaa

[250r4life]

good man- glad to hear... i cant imagine not being able to ride anymore...

i had a pretty good wreck the other day too... well, actually i didnt wreck the bike, just my face...

[250r4life]

note to duners.... when it is really windy (and i mean really windy) and there are no tracks in the sand and everything is blending together and the dunes arent rolling- everything is just a drop... just go back to camp and chill...

[250r4life]

and if you do happen to go out under those conditions, and happen to launch off of a drop off... make sure your lip isnt somehow inbetween your teeth...

it is no fun biting all the way through your lip- and urgent care in yuma is not cheap...

[peeping TOM]

how anyone can say there near bog standard 450 yam is a better quad then a full blown 250r has to be some real lame rider .{cough cough, won't mention names EX}. but the 450's coming out has been a real good thing ,because the quad scene has never been so BIG. as for laying on u arse when u 40+ thats your choice .and your lose.

[CorvetteZ06]

beerock, its good to see you post. hows everything going? I'm in Jersey too, we got to go riding this season.

[beerock]

sure bro, do you have a 4 gallon tank???

you HAVE to have one if you come ride with us

[CorvetteZ06]

ha, guess im going to have to get one!! your from south jersey, right?

[beerock]

no but i only ride in south jersey, i do have a shore house in manahawkin though

get the clark 4 gallon the ims is ehh,

[CorvetteZ06]

oh, ok, im in NE jersey in east hanover, do you do most of your riding down the shore?

[csr250r]

I rode a yammy yfz450 and i wasnt impressed...and thats when i had a blaster:ermm: . i bought a 250r and it was the best thing i ever did. You guys hit that head on when u were talking about marketing, the new 450s are made cheap they are supposed to break, i mean if they didnt break and the companies couldnt sell parts how would they feed their familys??:confused: ?? lol they are pretty good but its all a marketing thing. neone remeber that article in Sport rider(not sure if it was that mag) that had a shoot out between a through the roof textria tech 330r and a lt450r, i mean the first race they r won by 7 in a 200ft drag and then they pulled the baffle out and put a cherrybomb and the lt won by 10 in the same 200ft drag... i mean comeon either its all a huge marketing scam or the R didnt leave first.:eek:

[oldskoolex400]

how anyone can say there near bog standard 450 yam is a better quad then a full blown 250r has to be some real lame rider .{cough cough, won't mention names EX}.

who ever said that a full blown 250r is as good as a stock 450.. i know i sure didnt, i cant win the battle here this is the 250r forum,
why are you bringing up my riding skills seems like your on the defensive now tommy boy, why dont you go drink you some of that english tea instead of cutting people down???
i take it your a pro rider??? hows that sponsorship on the 250r? i bet you have a factory ride!!! :blah:

facts on the table though stock 450 beats a stock 250r


you guys talking about not riding in your older years arent true riders, so go ride what you want lol

this is your choice, not mine, i cant read the future and tell you what i will and will not do, i might not make it to my 50's or could have a injury that keeps me from riding, who knows :confused:

[beerock]

Originally posted by oldskoolex400




this is your choice, not mine, i cant read the future and tell you what i will and will not do, i might not make it to my 50's or could have a injury that keeps me from riding, who knows :confused:

it funny you say that because in your previous post you said.....


Originally posted by oldskoolex400




quite frankly in 20 years i could give a damn if it is still around, i dunno about you but i sure wont be riding then, ill be an old man, even though i want to push my kids to ride, i want to be laid up in flordia relaxing, maybe not you though, but good luck with that


so which is it you can tell the future or you cant?

please tell me the lotto numbers!!!!:blah:

[oldskoolex400]

so which is it you can tell the future or you cant?
nah i dont think i can man


please tell me the lotto numbers!!!!

yea i wouldnt mind knowing the numbers once or twice :)

[450rcrazy022692]

Hey corvette how old are you because alot of people i know ride and live in EH, im in montville which is like 10 mins away. Lemme know im probly gunna go riding over there when the weather gets a tad warmer to the point i can feel myself and can react in time.

[CorvetteZ06]

hey 450rcrazy... check your pm's :D

[peeping TOM]

Originally posted by oldskoolex400
who ever said that a full blown 250r is as good as a stock 450.. i know i sure didnt, i cant win the battle here this is the 250r forum,
why are you bringing up my riding skills seems like your on the defensive now tommy boy, why dont you go drink you some of that english tea instead of cutting people down???
i take it your a pro rider??? hows that sponsorship on the 250r? i bet you have a factory ride!!! :blah:

facts on the table though stock 450 beats a stock 250r



this is your choice, not mine, i cant read the future and tell you what i will and will not do, i might not make it to my 50's or could have a injury that keeps me from riding, who knows :confused:

[peeping TOM]

piston shattering ,mmmmmmm sounds like total lack of maintenance. i,e piston slap .

450s are lame, 250rs is where its at....these 4 stroke guys think they are riding something fast or somethin :p

[oldskoolex400]

piston shattering ,mmmmmmm sounds like total lack of maintenance. i,e piston slap .

how can it be lack of mait. when it is 2-3 months old, you are just trying to start something, its was another one of weisco's great pistons, im assuming you havent read any posts about pistons shattering in bikes,sleds, quads. but lets leave it at that tommy boy

[iamjasyn]

Originally posted by oldskoolex400

i take it your a pro rider??? hows that sponsorship on the 250r? i bet you have a factory ride!!! :blah:

facts on the table though stock 450 beats a stock 250r
Ahem, the TRX250R came detuned by design. For example, the CR for the same year put out I think close to 10 more hp. So... sorry about ruining that theory for you. The poor 450 on the other hand, they can't seem to bump the compression enough. Don't forget its got 200 more cc's as well. :rolleyes: Ya, great engine! LOL

By the way, the only people who care about sponsorship are a pro riders. If you're on the sales floor at Honda, bend it over wanna-be.

[250r4life]

Originally posted by Honda86
450s are lame, 250rs is where its at....these 4 stroke guys think they are riding something fast or somethin :p

whata you care- youre getting out of the sport anyhow? sounds like they are all lame to me...

[csr250r]

Originally posted by oldskoolex400
who ever said that a full blown 250r is as good as a stock 450.. i know i sure didnt, i cant win the battle here this is the 250r forum,
i take it your a pro rider??? hows that sponsorship on the 250r? i bet you have a factory ride!!! :blah:

facts on the table though stock 450 beats a stock 250r



lol i bet ur sponsored by factory on ur 450. i was talking about a magazine article which u prolly never saw.

wanna hear another fact? Barly any 250rs are still stock. which kindof ruins ur point there:ermm: .

i cant stand all these cocky kids that have prolly never rode both machines that they are comparing but yet they KNOW that theirs is way better because thats what the pros ride. You prolly get most ur facts from the forums i bet, do us all a favor and shutup, take ur big flaming mouth out of the 250r forum and go back to where its safe in the 450 forum.:)

250r 4 life, i can still be a fan, the reason i am getting out of it is money costs, and the fact that i dont have time to ride and all my buddy sold their bikes and quads also....but when i start making more money you know what kind of quad im going to buy....yup you guessed it...a good ol honda 250r :D

I been riding since i was 3, i am not never going to touch a bike or quad ever again, just a temporary drought, thats all

[oldskoolex400]

i cant stand all these cocky kids that have prolly never rode both machines that they are comparing but yet they KNOW that theirs is way better because thats what the pros ride. You prolly get most ur facts from the forums i bet, do us all a favor and shutup, take ur big flaming mouth out of the 250r forum and go back to where its safe in the 450 forum.

your a dumbass if you are refering to me, i have a yfz now and HAD a 250r, if you are refering to me i am not a kid

and believe it or not i still own a 2 stroke, 250r's are great bikes, if i ever get a chance to own another one i will make sure that is has been completely gone through, or i get it cheap enough to where i can do all the work

i love KX and CR 500s

[csr250r]

Originally posted by oldskoolex400
your a dumbass if you are refering to me, i have a yfz now and HAD a 250r, if you are refering to me i am not a kid

and believe it or not i still own a 2 stroke, 250r's are great bikes, if i ever get a chance to own another one i will make sure that is has been completely gone through, or i get it cheap enough to where i can do all the work

Ok... u sold ur 250r and bought a 300ex... i believe you. if that is the case then u probably could handle a 250r...and now u got ur badass yfz with scott grips and a cam mod lmao. like i said before go back to the 450 forum.

[250r4life]

Originally posted by csr250r
Ok... u sold ur 250r and bought a 300ex... i believe you. if that is the case then u probably could handle a 250r...and now u got ur badass yfz with scott grips and a cam mod lmao. like i said before go back to the 450 forum.

like you have any room to talk?

my oury grips are better than your renthal and his scott grips combined! :devil:

[csr250r]

hey now i like my grips lol

[oldskoolex400]

Ok... u sold ur 250r and bought a 300ex... i believe you. if that is the case then u probably could handle a 250r...and now u got ur badass yfz with scott grips and a cam mod lmao. like i said before go back to the 450 forum.

ok, your 14, you know it all, i forgot about that, you sig says wider axle? you really know what your talking about, you still running stock suspension on your R?


and now u got ur badass yfz with scott grips and a cam mod lmao

thats all you have left to say, bashing my bike thats pretty said, guess your mind hasnt full developed to how the real world works i wasnt planning on bringing up your age or your bike, but you want to start ****, what a punk


i cant stand all these cocky kids that have prolly never rode both machines that they are comparing but yet they KNOW that theirs is way better

you are describing yourself very well, your a cocky 14 year old, cant wait til you make it to high school or college, your gonna have a rude awakening

[300excrazy98]

You guys are all a bunch of tools.... Ride both, race both, and then talk!

[oldskoolex400]

Ride both, race both, and then talk!

i not only did that but i owned them both

[Scott-300ex]

So I guess you got old and couldn't handle the power of the 250r anymore huh, sorry man, you're sellin the best quad ever.

[450rcrazy022692]

I rode a few 250r's and i wasnt impressed at all with the power. The handling was awsome though. IMO i think that a 450 laughs at most 250s around track.

[oldskoolex400]

So I guess you got old and couldn't handle the power of the 250r anymore huh, sorry man, you're sellin the best quad ever.

if your talkin to me its been gone for awhile now, im gonna let the handle the power thing go, oh yea i cant handle the power of a 250r, but i ride a kx500 :rolleyes: honda has to be putting out double the hp of the bike

honeslty my 265 out ran 450s, hey are all neck and neck when modded, i ride a 2 stroke for many reasons, like they are lighter, easier to work on, cheaper, i love the sound, more responsive to mods...but everyone has their choice

[oldskoolex400]

honeslty my 265

i thought yours was a stock bore?

it was a CT 265, now is stock top end...

[TWILES]

I had an 89 with, I was told, the same Krank-It MX motor Joe Byrd was using when he rode for Krank-It which happened to be the same time I had the bike. I have never ridden a thumper, INCLUDING my 05 WR450F bike, that would have out motored it in a straight drag. On a BIG MX track, I had a Banshee that would have beat it with a rider who could out-ride it....I could do that. These 450's, to me, are a joke. The guys I knew when I was racing who are still at it are still riding their 250R's with the exception of one who is still racing Pro TT's. The one's from a couple years behind me are riding 450's and paying out the *** to stay competetive. I gave up on my " Pro Career " when they started making the hybrids. I didn't and still don't have that kind of money. Mine isn't worth as much as their's. I liked racing and just hauling *** around the house and the cool liking 2-strokes were what got me interested. I was 5 when the first Quadracers were hitting the riding area's around here. Between them, the Banshee's, and what few 250Rs were around, I was hooked at a young age. I got to start at 16 on a LT500R, then the 250R I was talking about and then my Banshee. I bought a 450R in 2004 and was discusted. If this is the way racing is going, I'll stay to the side and watch. These 16 year-olds that don't know better can spend their money. I'll keep mine.

In closing I WILL say with a smile...My Banshee with a burt clutch STILL smoked EVERY hybrid to the first turn and I had no trouble on the track with them either. They didn't handle any better than the Banshee. A 310 + R wouldn't have to try against ANY of these 450's not matter what they had done. They just don't have it where it counts untill you spend $3500 and it blows in a month. The R and Banshee will KEEP go'n.

[250r4life]

Originally posted by TWILES


In closing I WILL say with a smile...My Banshee with a burt clutch STILL smoked EVERY hybrid to the first turn and I had no trouble on the track with them either. They didn't handle any better than the Banshee. A 310 + R wouldn't have to try against ANY of these 450's not matter what they had done. They just don't have it where it counts untill you spend $3500 and it blows in a month. The R and Banshee will KEEP go'n.

im too tired to write too much, but whatever... blowing smoke where the sun dont shine...

[peeping TOM]

jeepers creepers this argument still going on ??? 450's were the best thing ever for the quad scene , its never been so big . and the sound that come from the odd 250r that u see on the track now sounds even sweeter..

its sad to think what quad racing could have been is the 250r was updated each year and then the rest would have had to up their 250 2 strokes as well...now racing is getting way too expensive, im hearing that the new kawi 450 is going to be right there with the suzuki - over 7 thousand dollars, STOCK...when i can buy a PV 330 narrow frame cr500 link for a couple grand less? i just dont understand :rolleyes:

[Mean250r]

damn i cant believe everyone is still arguing about this

Every one has there own preferences. im not gunna lie i miss my 250r but i personaly like my yfz better.

You guys arnt getting any where arguing about this. Theres like 10 million threads on 2 stroke vs. 4 stroke.

[iamjasyn]

Originally posted by Honda86
its sad to think what quad racing could have been is the 250r was updated each year and then the rest would have had to up their 250 2 strokes as well...now racing is getting way too expensive, im hearing that the new kawi 450 is going to be right there with the suzuki - over 7 thousand dollars, STOCK...when i can buy a PV 330 narrow frame cr500 link for a couple grand less? i just dont understand :rolleyes:
Well, aside from people actually liking the pos, a major drive behind them being in the spotlight is major marketing and the subsequent wanna be's. I'm like you, they don't make financial sense, especially since I don't even like single cylinder 4strokes or the 450 anyway.

[iamjasyn]

Originally posted by Mean250r
damn i cant believe everyone is still arguing about this

Every one has there own preferences. im not gunna lie i miss my 250r but i personaly like my yfz better.

You guys arnt getting any where arguing about this. Theres like 10 million threads on 2 stroke vs. 4 stroke. You're right in general. 2strokers are bummed and amazed at the solution to the epa standards deadlines. So some of us feel the need to push back, even if it's just one wanna be at a time. I've converted 2 4stroke people to being interested in buying a 250r. You just can't match the power to cc ratio, not to mention all the extra parts you don't need!

[iamjasyn]

Originally posted by iamjasyn
Well, aside from people actually liking the pos, a major drive behind them being in the spotlight is major marketing and the subsequent wanna be's. I'm like you, they don't make financial sense, especially since I don't even like single cylinder 4strokes or the 450 anyway.
By the way, I've considered buying a CBR600, but if they made a 2stroke version that was street legal, I probably wouldn't even open the brochure. How many of you remember 2stroke street bikes? The epa shoved those back into closed course competition too. You hardly see them in mainstream racing though. Why? No one can sell you a street legal one anymore!

[iamjasyn]

I think it's funny how you fools think that the big boom in atv racing is such a great thing. Like all things hype it creates marketing and buying buzz. So you think the boom is here for you?? It's here for th$m, you fool. And if it were more underground we'd get to see less interest in money making interests and the sport would be more pure with less wanna-be f*gs running around worrying about their mainstream image and sticker kits. 450's make me want to f*cking puke.

[TWILES]

Originally posted by iamjasyn
I think it's funny how you fools think that the big boom in atv racing is such a great thing. Like all things hype it creates marketing and buying buzz. So you think the boom is here for you?? It's here for th$m, you fool. And if it were more underground we'd get to see less interest in money making interests and the sport would be more pure with less wanna-be f*gs running around worrying about their mainstream image and sticker kits. 450's make me want to f*cking puke.

I think it sucks because it just brings that much more attention to something at the government, from what I read, already disaproves of. The more idiot kids that get killed showing off their stickers, the more **** gets stired up.

[csr250r]

Originally posted by oldskoolex400
ok, your 14, you know it all, i forgot about that, you sig says wider axle? you really know what your talking about, you still running stock suspension on your R?

thats all you have left to say, bashing my bike thats pretty said, guess your mind hasnt full developed to how the real world works i wasnt planning on bringing up your age or your bike, but you want to start ****, what a punk

you are describing yourself very well, your a cocky 14 year old, cant wait til you make it to high school or college, your gonna have a rude awakening

Ya i take some high school classes right now so skrew off. Idk what kind of axle is on my R when i bought it that axle was on it and i never asked what kind it is.

funny u bring up age...act urs... im 14 big deal i guess when u get old u lose the sence of good comebacks:ermm:

my R has lt 250 shocks up front to lower it for flattrack, eventually its gona get some mx shocks but i dont have the cash at the moment.

you keep showing off ur kx 500 and saying how much hp it has lol i bet u prolly putz it around riding it like a 4stroke nice and easy.

And i would take my bike 10 times out of 10 over ur P.O.S.

[oldskoolex400]

you keep showing off ur kx 500 and saying how much hp it has lol i bet u prolly putz it around riding it like a 4stroke nice and easy.

thats all i would have to do to outpower you, bad news for you, i ride the **** out of it


And i would take my bike 10 times out of 10 over ur P.O.S.

i never mentioned your quad being a POS, your a little ***** that is insecure

i am really glad that the 14 year olds now know it all, man they are smartasses compared to how it used to be.

[csr250r]

Originally posted by oldskoolex400
thats all i would have to do to outpower you, bad news for you, i ride the **** out of it



i never mentioned your quad being a POS, your a little ***** that is insecure

i am really glad that the 14 year olds now know it all, man they are smartasses compared to how it used to be.

ya maybe u touch it a little in a strait line...

i dont know it all, u called me out on a few things and i let u know what was up so quit being a baby.

i dont care if u didnt call my quad a p.o.s.. i called urs one.

You are an arrogant codjer that gets pissed everytime he gets stumped by some "youngin" lmao

[oldskoolex400]

i dont care if u didnt call my quad a p.o.s.. i called urs one.

well, unlike you, i have worked hard to buy my quad and pay for every part put on it. i have more respect for myself and enough repect for you not to cut your quad down. i would appreciate it if you would do the same


You are an arrogant codjer that gets pissed everytime he gets stumped by some "youngin" lmao

you really get a kick out of being an *** dont you


ya maybe u touch it a little in a strait line...

i assume you have never rode a dirtbike then


and i highly doubt you would beat me on a track or straight line, whats that R top out at 75-85? add around 30-35 mph and you will e even with me on a drag

i was racing before you were born on September 17, 1992 it takes time to gain skill, unlike you when i was being brought up i respected my elders, i guess when you were younger, you werent taught this

[300excrazy98]

Originally posted by csr250r
ya maybe u touch it a little in a strait line...

i dont know it all, u called me out on a few things and i let u know what was up so quit being a baby.

i dont care if u didnt call my quad a p.o.s.. i called urs one.

You are an arrogant codjer that gets pissed everytime he gets stumped by some "youngin" lmao

Your an arrogant dou*che bag! You shouldnt be the one telling someone else you dont know that their quad is a POS. I highly doubt it is a POS if its only 3 years old, you can only beat on the quad so much in 3 years, I cant say anything about yours but in 18 years you can beat a quad pretty bad...

[iamjasyn]

Originally posted by TWILES
I think it sucks because it just brings that much more attention to something at the government, from what I read, already disaproves of. The more idiot kids that get killed showing off their stickers, the more **** gets stired up.
Yea... people can get hurt traveling to the grocery store. Chance of injury and death are the price you pay to live. Too many people are not living because they're too afraid of death and then make it hard for other people to get on with it... I think it sux!

I think it's funny to look back at the big 3wheeler controversy that got Honda in so much hot water and meanwhile no one was trying to sue them for 2 wheeled bikes which are pretty easy to crash! The general public thought 3wheelers "looked" safe and when they ran their feet over they looked for someone to blame. Honda probably shares some blame for marketing it specifically as "safe" but I don't think they deserved the heaping of lawyers jumping on the bandwagon to collect some easy cash. I read an excerpt I found on some law company's web site about the litigation... It was a feeding frenzy sounds like.

I maybe should clarify. I don't have a problem with big racing venues, but it just reminds me of when sponsors didn't have their big hands in it as much and consequently didn't have their newest quads constantly being washed over our brains. It's kind of like the radio. If you tune in, you're basically going to have to listen to what they tell you to.

i think almost every one would rather ride a full blown MX 250r with CR 500 link, PV motor, LT shocks, over a full blown 450....except of course those hard core 4 stroke guys

[csr250r]

Originally posted by 300excrazy98
Your an arrogant dou*che bag! You shouldnt be the one telling someone else you dont know that their quad is a POS. I highly doubt it is a POS if its only 3 years old, you can only beat on the quad so much in 3 years, I cant say anything about yours but in 18 years you can beat a quad pretty bad...

O...did someone call a YFZ a piece....and you have a yfz!!! That musta ruined ur day.

I dont care what u or oldman400ex say about me or my quad. Its 18 years old yes. It still runs with the best of em. I fine with my quad i dont have to have it on every page of every magazine to know that its a keeper.

and oldman400ex... I bought my quad with my own money:devil: took me a full summer but i got-r-done

and add 30-35mph to 75-85mph to beat u in a drag or on a track...i assume ur not talking about a yfz because they top 70-71
yfzs get dusted by polaris predators in drags so choke on that.

[oldskoolex400]

and add 30-35mph to 75-85mph to beat u in a drag or on a track...i assume ur not talking about a yfz because they top 70-71

just anoter idiot post, i was talking about the kx and you change it to the yfz trying to prove something, your just like a rookie cop, young and dumb, trying to prove to the world you are number 1


im not quite sure who oldman is, there are many people on this site older than me, you are really stirring the ****

and on the yfz thing stock thats what they top out at...... throw a 15 t on, it ups it quite a bit, mine sure doesnt have a problem pulling the limiter then either

[250r4life]

Originally posted by csr250r
O...did someone call a YFZ a piece....and you have a yfz!!! That musta ruined ur day.

I dont care what u or oldman400ex say about me or my quad. Its 18 years old yes. It still runs with the best of em. I fine with my quad i dont have to have it on every page of every magazine to know that its a keeper.

and oldman400ex... I bought my quad with my own money:devil: took me a full summer but i got-r-done

and add 30-35mph to 75-85mph to beat u in a drag or on a track...i assume ur not talking about a yfz because they top 70-71
yfzs get dusted by polaris predators in drags so choke on that.

do you take stupid enhancing pills each morning?

[300excrazy98]

Originally posted by csr250r
i dont care if u didnt call my quad a p.o.s.. i called urs one.


you call his a POS i knw mine is its been abused

[HB416EX]

This is wht there is no need for new ATV riders.I liked it better when riding wasn't popular.

[250r4life]

Originally posted by HB416EX
This is wht there is no need for new ATV riders.I liked it better when riding wasn't popular.

im with ya on that... the dunes are overcrowded now and the sand just gets trashed...

[csr250r]

300ex crazy when u made this thread did u honestly think that it wouldnt make a huge flame war...especially posting it in the 250r forum...

oldskool400ex sorry to ruin ur day but yfzs dont top out at 85...

250r4life i dont think ill ever recover from that one...
i said that because ive seen it before with both stock quads and they even alternated riders it didnt matter.

After i post this i will be done here so u guys can get ur last word in but im sick of this useless thread...

later

[250r4life]

i have never lost to a polaris- not on my R nor on my YFZ...

on new years i had a buddy with me that had a brand new 06 predator, that came with a white brothers pipe, he had a filter and the same paddle tires as i did... because he is heavier than i am and cant ride for crap, my good buddy who rides great, is about equal weight, and who i race about 100 times every weekend hopped on it- and i completely dusted him... i could just toy with him... so in this case i have 100% assurety that it was not rider differences...

i raced dozens of predators back when my R was stock with a pipe and dusted them... youre a clearly a fool if you beleive that a predator will out run a yfz... like i said- you must be taking stupid pills...

[250r4life]

now im not saying that YFZs are better or that Rs are junk or anything else- i absolutely love my R... but regardless of if you like the feel or whatever, it is ignorant not to recognize that the YFZ is a great bike and it is pretty impressive for a stock bike...

[C-LEIGH RACING]

Originally posted by oldskoolex400
just anoter idiot post, i was talking about the kx and you change it to the yfz trying to prove something, your just like a rookie cop, young and dumb, trying to prove to the world you are number 1


im not quite sure who oldman is, there are many people on this site older than me, you are really stirring the ****

and on the yfz thing stock thats what they top out at...... throw a 15 t on, it ups it quite a bit, mine sure doesnt have a problem pulling the limiter then either

Charlie,
chill a little man, your in a 2 stroke section, no need for this.
Neil

[oldskoolex400]

oldskool400ex sorry to ruin ur day but yfzs dont top out at 85...

you must have misread the part that i said changing the front sprocket.....


throw a 15 t on, it ups it quite a bit, mine sure doesnt have a problem pulling the limiter then either

[oldskoolex400]

chill a little man, your in a 2 stroke section, no need for this.

i respect you neil, you are very knowledagable in the 250r, the 14 year old kid shouldnt have brought up the POS stuff and old man, you cannot blame me for stuff that has been said, i said nothing to deserve him bringing up ****, i think it is a little unfair to call me out and not him :scary:

[C-LEIGH RACING]

Well,
what I said in that post, I wasnt calling you out + sence I know you, how you can ride & your from N.C. to boot, cant never tell if a sponsor is reading what your writing that might be thinking about sponsoring you one day, so I'm gona tell you again, chill.
I dont care what the rest of them do.
Neil

[oldskoolex400]

what I said in that post, I wasnt calling you out + sence I know you, how you can ride & your from N.C. to boot, cant never tell if a sponsor is reading what your writing that might be thinking about sponsoring you one day, so I'm gona tell you again, chill.

alright neil, thanks for the tip, hopefully this thread will die down now.......

even with a 15 front tooth you wont hit a true 85 mph...my banshee had a 16 and i was about 87 mph and thats 1 tooth bigger, running 20 inch tires....you were probally around 80-82, still a long way from a true 85 mph

[450rcrazy022692]

Originally posted by csr250r
300ex crazy when u made this thread did u honestly think that it wouldnt make a huge flame war...especially posting it in the 250r forum...

I honestly wonder sometime about 300excrazy98 because i think he likes getting people all rouled(sp?) up and then gets the satisfaction of watching a few idiots fight over something pointless then leaves when the fire gets too big then when it dies down comes back makes a stupid comment then leaves again, and for everyones infromation im friends with him and he does it to everyone and is gunna catch a real beating

[oldskoolex400]

even with a 15 front tooth you wont hit a true 85 mph...my banshee had a 16 and i was about 87 mph and thats 1 tooth bigger, running 20 inch tires....you were probally around 80-82, still a long way from a true 85 mph

i know, i know, thats why i said 80-85, he used the higher number i said, c'mon guys let this thing die

yeah you were prolly in the low 80s...when i had mine geared that high and ripped through 100+ acres, it was awsome, big rolling hills, smooth as could be :D

but at those speeds it made any stock banshee, 450, or raptor seem like nothing