Finally Got John Natalies 450 (pics)

[hetrick_racing9]

Well i finally got the baby 8 hour drive from ontario canada but was worth it... i decide to take some kinda cool snow pics i guess well here you guys go.. i still gotta get some graphicss made by my sponsor custom made canadian style lmao... And a steering stabalizer.. and i might paint the rims different.. well here you goo..

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[250ex13]

omfg. your quad and house are amazing.:eek:

[WhiteYFZ]

dam man! thats a sick bike.. i just saw it at the show in NYC

wait.. is this the same bike?

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q222/tomespo22/HPIM1518-01.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q222/tomespo22/HPIM1520-01.jpg

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MY lil bro in front of YOUR bike loll!
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q222/tomespo22/HPIM1522-01.jpg

[Pipeless416]

:eek2: :eek2: :eek2: im in loooooove!

[400eXr1d3rZ]

Damnit! How much did it cost you?

[hetrick_racing9]

he has a ton friends with him this is one of his

[hetrick_racing9]

enuff lol my parents are like dont bug us for anything big for a while lol...

[WhiteYFZ]

how old are you?

[hetrick_racing9]

only 15

[WhiteYFZ]

:eek2: thats awesome man!! nice bike!

[hetrick_racing9]

ye im soo happyy its pritty sick im gunna be doing to wpsa and atva races too wit my buddy greg gee

[outacontrol]

Nice bike man, I almost bought his 2005 bike last yr, at the time i lived 10 mins from him and just stopped in to talk to his dad about riding on their mx track and he showed the quad and told me how much. Its a lot of quad for the money! I have a good idea what you guys paid and its worth every penny! Nicest people youll ever talk to as well!

[WhiteZrider]

Originally posted by WhiteYFZ
dam man! thats a sick bike.. i just saw it at the show in NYC

wait.. is this the same bike?

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q222/tomespo22/HPIM1518-01.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q222/tomespo22/HPIM1520-01.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q222/tomespo22/HPIM1519-01.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q222/tomespo22/HPIM1514-01.jpg

MY lil bro in front of YOUR bike loll!
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q222/tomespo22/HPIM1522-01.jpg

It cant be the same bike, i looked carefully at some stuff, like the back sproket is differnet, and the blingstar graphics unless hetrick took them off, the seat is differnet color, and the bumper.

[nowukno]

It could be one of these i took a pic of @ birch creek last year....


http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y266/nowukno/100_1166.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y266/nowukno/100_1162.jpg

[bwamos]

Aye, it was probably one of his many quads. The factory pro's usually have a few. The practice quads, race quads, and the show quads (trailer queens, ;))

[hetrick_racing9]

yeahhh mines pritty brand new... motor is pritty much new.... and shocks are new a lot of good stuff on it.. works all together great...

[troyleepred719]

thats most likely last years practice bike, usually the pros sell of their practice bikes, and then last years race bikes, become this years race bikes, and then the "trailer queens" get diistributed to the sponsors for shows and stuff.



did u meet john natalie? i met him and hung out for a while with hin at unidilla, hes got an awesome sense of humor, i told him to watch out, ill be coming for him next year, and all he said was, if you really want to, go for it, lol....anyways, how much was the bike, and where did u have to pick it up?

[hetrick_racing9]

/i was with john the hole time at unadilla in the bak of greg gee's trailer one of my buddies... and ye i had to drive from canada to pennsylvania to get it... hes a nice guy and so are his parents.. its cost me above 10,000 lets just keep it at that lol

[STEVENJANNA]

Originally posted by hetrick_racing9
/i was with john the hole time at unadilla in the bak of greg gee's trailer one of my buddies... and ye i had to drive from canada to pennsylvania to get it... hes a nice guy and so are his parents.. its cost me above 10,000 lets just keep it at that lol
It cost "YOU"??????
Let's be honest here:rolleyes:

[csimp3]

wow, that is awesome, theres nothing left to buy, you got the complete package, nice bike dude

[DOHC]

nice bike man, where do u ride most of the time? I live in port perry about 30 mins away from u.

[roundsy]

wanna go riding?....lol

i'm 18 and live north of london if ya ever wanna get together some time through the year just shoot me a pm

[troyleepred719]

whats the big secret here on the price lol......

looks like a nasty bike, i wouldnt buy it though, its almost lke you would want to keep it "his" and nt make it personal to you. i would by an extra set of plastics, and then chagne it around, to be "your " pro bike. you got to get this thing out on a radar, let us know how these pro bikes really measuere up on mph

[Quad18star]

Awesome looking bike ... glad you finally got it ... I remember you talking about it not too long ago .

[hetrick_racing9]

ye quad finally made the long haul to get it... umm.. well this is about a 68-70hp 450... he had a 75hp one at his shop but i cudnt even kick it over .. it wus like impossible.. john had a hard time... well ye.. i race CMRC canadian motorcross racing club which is all over canada so anyone who wants to come say hi or drop by feel free.. just gimme a pm.. i also will be in the states some too soo.. hopefully we can meet eachother one day... as for mph.. i unno abour radar.. but it shud be gettin dyno'd mabee sometime soon if my mechanic doesnt mind doin it.. he was tellin me bout the valves and how them mess up at lot.. wut r some good long lasting valves i can get im gunna call john up right now acctually and find out wut r in it.. the motor is completly fresh pritty much just a little riding time.. he just had a new piston and everything put in it... so i gotta break it in a little for like a hour... ill be practicing sometime before april or during april before race season starts... Thanks For Comments Guys I love Responding to people thaughts.. lol

[450ERRRRRR!]

All I can say is you better show your parents how much you apperacite them for buying it for you. You should, without being told mow the grass twice a week, take out the trash every day, wash their cars every weekend, do all their laundary, cook supper, give the dog a bath each week, make straight A's in school, you get the idea......So get busy!!

[DEAL]

Originally posted by hetrick_racing9
ye quad finally made the long haul to get it... umm.. well this is about a 68-70hp 450... he had a 75hp one at his shop but i cudnt even kick it over .. it wus like impossible.. john had a hard time... well ye.. i race CMRC canadian motorcross racing club which is all over canada so anyone who wants to come say hi or drop by feel free.. just gimme a pm.. i also will be in the states some too soo.. hopefully we can meet eachother one day... as for mph.. i unno abour radar.. but it shud be gettin dyno'd mabee sometime soon if my mechanic doesnt mind doin it.. he was tellin me bout the valves and how them mess up at lot.. wut r some good long lasting valves i can get im gunna call john up right now acctually and find out wut r in it.. the motor is completly fresh pritty much just a little riding time.. he just had a new piston and everything put in it... so i gotta break it in a little for like a hour... ill be practicing sometime before april or during april before race season starts... Thanks For Comments Guys I love Responding to people thaughts.. lol

My buddy has an 04 R with the same motor setup as johns 05 quad and it goes through valves ALOT.
I know he switched engine builders in 06 but it will probably still have the same problems.

[hetrick_racing9]

hes back with rages mechanic... umm im gunna talk to the guy at rage to that builds them..

[hetrick_racing9]

ye the money came of the line of credit soo me and dad need to get the 3 other quads sold.. then we'll get bout the same amount of money we paid for it bak
and my mom says if i dont get good grade like 70 up im not racing till i bring it bak up soo.. and i have ajob now so shes no so upset i have to give her half of every paycheck i get
until i pay her 5,000 in total from all the half paychecks...

[hetrick_racing9]

i made a pritty big jump.. well i guess its the jump everyone has to make... but u cud go from this to a stock 450...

[insaneracin2003]

Originally posted by hetrick_racing9
hes back with rages mechanic... umm im gunna talk to the guy at rage to that builds them..
That would be Dee Mancheck,he can be reached at www.stqra.com

[hetrick_racing9]

thanks a lot insane i already knew that :p but thanks anyways.. any ideas of wut i shud do to it anyone?

[PolarisRider06]

different fenders and seat.... make it LOOK how you want it to... then go ride the hell out of it... just make sure to keep up on maintainance

[hetrick_racing9]

yeah i wish he hadda had a quadtech seat wit the bump on the bakk .. its still a quad tech seat but its like a custom one for him.. the grpahics are gunna be made soon and custom number backrounds and numbers... as for the fender im not sure i want to cut them but im scared ****less i mite mess it up never done it before..

[hetrick_racing9]

i pm'd the 2 people about riding in london and in port perry check your mail...

[SRH]

70 hp? im not buyin it.........maybe mid to upper 50s

[hetrick_racing9]

he said he can get the made up too 78 hp but thats pushing it to the max.. umm ye and plus if its that high its got wierd power spots... around 70hp is about as power as your going to want and still have it be comfortable in all areas... but im prob gunna kill myself if im not careful lol... and we gotta find out wut kinda valves are in it... if there not super strong ones we plan on changing them.. how often shud u change ur valves or can u get any that will last a whole year?

[Xater]

are your sure there is a 450 motor in there?

[roundsy]

pm sent

[hetrick_racing9]

what kind of question is that :rolleyes:

[Xater]

i dont know how you wouldld could get 78 hp out of a stock bore 450...

[400exrida06]

Originally posted by hetrick_racing9
ye im soo happyy its pritty sick im gunna be doing to wpsa and atva races too wit my buddy greg gee


Sweet bike man, i go to school with Greg lol he's got a nice bike to.

[hetrick_racing9]

wuts ur msn bro .. ye gregs a rich ******* lol...

and yeah u can get 78hp ouy of a 450 motor... doesnt last long but u can... umm.. if you were to bore it you would probably still max out at 78 hp

[joeb23]

what exactly is done to the motor to get 78hp then?

[dober250R]

a constant spray of nitrous, they make the frame "gas tight" and fill the whole frame with nitrous, lmao!!!!:chinese:

no stock bore 450 can hit 78 hp without nitrious or a turbo of some sort...ive never even seen a 450 hit past the 66 or 68 hp mark

[eastside 400]

its funny tho, im surprised no one noticed that they are just standard elka's on it, they are reg. quad rate elites without the Ti spring and the trax system or whatever it is..

[hetrick_racing9]

they are elite :) john runs triple rate on every one of his bikes.. take a look around... im not a retard please dont take me for one... also you can not buy the tracking system just yet... he is not alowd to sell his bikes with the tracking system on it to the public yet.. and trust me i bugged him too lol.. next.. he did have a 75 -78 hp machine now im not gunna say its a 450 stock bore because i do not know... he told me it was tho... nextly... it is john natalies bike if u dont think it is eastside.. well i dont know how u want me to prove it but if u can think of a way lemme kno.. also... bak to the shocks.. they are elite.. one spring has been taken off that is why there is so many threds on the top of the shock... :)

[Nick110]

Originally posted by Honda86
no stock bore 450 can hit 78 hp without nitrious or a turbo of some sort...ive never even seen a 450 hit past the 66 or 68 hp mark

Dan Lamey has a graph of 70 on a stock bore/stroke 04/05 450r.

[trick450r]

Originally posted by hetrick_racing9
he said he can get the made up too 78 hp but thats pushing it to the max.. umm ye and plus if its that high its got wierd power spots... around 70hp is about as power as your going to want and still have it be comfortable in all areas... but im prob gunna kill myself if im not careful lol... and we gotta find out wut kinda valves are in it... if there not super strong ones we plan on changing them.. how often shud u change ur valves or can u get any that will last a whole year?

yep MAYBE if its a big bore...but even then, a stock bore 450r engine will not get over 60 hp, right now

[trick450r]

Originally posted by Nick110
Dan Lamey has a graph of 70 on a stock bore/stroke 04/05 450r.

yep, and his a graphs also read way high...my dasa engine is supposed to be 60-65 horsepower, its got everything done that he will do...and i can tell you right now it MIGHT hit 60, probably high 50's though

[trxwannbe]

i've seen three four or graphs showing 70 on stock bore 450s you gotta factor in the little stuff those guys do like carb mods which can get 3-5hp and stuff like that it all adds up in the end

[hetrick_racing9]

well i guess i cant judge it myself i havnt had it on a dyno yet.. but that is what john was telling me now if its bored out.. i highly doubt it.. none of his machines are except for one or 2 in his garage that he doesnt race with

[eastside 400]

im not saying it wasnt his, i didnt know those trax shocks werent available thats y i said it but i could tell it that pre-load spring was removed or not, i saw the threads but didnt see the ti spring so i figured that it was quad rate, sorry bout that, cool bike tho

[hetrick_racing9]

its ok man thanks a lot.. it just bugs me when you put a lot of money into something you like and people always have to say something negative not saying you did.. i made a mistake with hp... and it just kind of upsets me...

[FHKracingZ]

nice bike, but there isnt such thing as a 70hp 450r. atleast a true 70hp 450r. Joe Byrds 63hp 450R went through 2 new motors within 20 minutes at the Walnut national.

[troutman561]

Well my 400ex might have 30hp, BEAT THAT!!!

I guarantee you that you do NOT have the head that Natalie raced with either! John advertised all his '06 bikes over on atvsene a couple months ago. I misspelled atvsene on purpose so you could see the URL I was referring to. He dumped all the '06's due to all the tranny failures and went out and scooped up a bunch of leftover '05's to race with this season.

[honda4life72]

you go tto think thow this is a pro bike ...honda gives people money to figure out how to make them faster ... i man come on your givin him a hard time about 78hp and stuff ... it has hours of tuning it it

[STEVENJANNA]

Originally posted by honda4life72
you go tto think thow this is a pro bike ...honda gives people money to figure out how to make them faster ... i man come on your givin him a hard time about 78hp and stuff ... it has hours of tuning it it
WOW!!!!!:ermm:

[honda250xrider]

builders are making some increbible numbers with there machines and they do not sell it to an average joe so more than likely none of us will get the chance to have a motor like the pro's, 78 could be possible would it last not likely, why havn't you seen a graph... well thats simple engine builders do not want to advertise what hp they are making for the pro's. why don't you think you havn't seen a pull over 65hp or so for a 450r. I do agree with dasa dyno reading high. now im a little skeptical if they reached 78hp on a dynojet dyno. also bore does little to acheive more hp. these motors will be stock bore simply to keep them legal to race, unless they wanted to cheat a bit but i doupt it they run the risk of lossing alot if they did. The ltr motors are doing really well right now with hp and i would love to see what the motor's are capatable of getting.

[jcv400ex]

Those numbers are crank numbers not rear wheel though, right?

[Villageidiott23]

whatever, it looks to me like you got urself a pretty sweet bike. not to mention a job and you will eventually know what it feels like to work for something u love.... all good things..

[trick450r]

Originally posted by trxwannbe
i've seen three four or graphs showing 70 on stock bore 450s you gotta factor in the little stuff those guys do like carb mods which can get 3-5hp and stuff like that it all adds up in the end


when i said we have everything, i ment it....and no im not saying the most powerfull stock bore 450r engine in existence is in my garage...but you would have to come out with something completely revolutionary to beat it by over 10 hp

[hetrick_racing9]

yeah i kno the 06's have had some problems
he beefed up the tranny to work better but he just didnt like them... but it was a great deal money wise so my parents got it for me knowing how much it wud cost to buy a stock one and do it up the same... as for his other machine and this is one of his practice ones he assured me that it was over 70hp probably only around 72 hp or somewhere in that range... i cud tell easily by how impossible it pritty much was to kick over and how john sometimes had to get it pulled by another quad for it to kick over...

[hetrick_racing9]

yeah i kno the 06's have had some problems
he beefed up the tranny to work better but he just didnt like them... but it was a great deal money wise so my parents got it for me knowing how much it wud cost to buy a stock one and do it up the same... as for his other machine and this is one of his practice ones he assured me that it was over 70hp probably only around 72 hp or somewhere in that range... i cud tell easily by how impossible it pritty much was to kick over and how john sometimes had to get it pulled by another quad for it to kick over...

[hetrick_racing9]

yeah i kno the 06's have had some problems
he beefed up the tranny to work better but he just didnt like them... but it was a great deal money wise so my parents got it for me knowing how much it wud cost to buy a stock one and do it up the same... as for his other machine and this is one of his practice ones he assured me that it was over 70hp probably only around 72 hp or somewhere in that range... i cud tell easily by how impossible it pritty much was to kick over and how john sometimes had to get it pulled by another quad for it to kick over...

[Blue250X]

Originally posted by troutman561
Well my 400ex might have 30hp, BEAT THAT!!!

My 250 is putting out around 18:cool: Well actually I have no idea...like 15 stock right? Anyone know how much it would make with a K&N, FMF mega crap, Wiseco 12:1 piston 130 main jet...42 pilot.. needle clip on stock notch? Ya know...while were on here comparing HP numbers.

[Ex_Rider43]

good luck with it , youve got yourself a nice bike !


Are you going to race the canadian nationals this year ?

[hetrick_racing9]

yes i will probably be running some of the nationals in quebec and im going to be trying to get pelchat to give me a good sponsorship... soo.. i gotta show off lol

[Ex_Rider43]

Pelchat giving you a good sponsorship with a full Roll 450r...


How ?

[hetrick_racing9]

run his graphics and stuff ... im keepin the roll a-arms and swingarm unless he wants to get me a free pair of eather lol...

[Ex_Rider43]

well he doesnt have any graphic kit for his company and you probably wont get a free set of a-arms but hey you could try..

what class are you racing¸? St-Blaise is probably the best track oh and also ste-julie you dont wanna miss these 2.

do you know the hot blonde traveling with the guy racing the pro class I think its russaw .. I think shes racing an LTR but im not sure ?

[FHKracingZ]

Hetrick your wrong just admit it. Natalies race bikes are very low 60's just like everybody else out theres. If Carmichaels 450 bike is 65hp there is no way your quad motor is more then that. sorry. And you keep saying that it was hard to kick over, these have built is compression release so a 10.5:1 stock 05 will kick the same as a 14:1. might not start as easy but it kicks the same. your motor if its a practice bike is 55hp. and i know this because im sponsored by Rage and dee told me that his best motors are low 60's around 62-62hp.

Im not trying to busy your balls but this lie thread has been going on forever.

[Ripitupfilms]

usually pros practice bikes only have cams and pistons at the most..

[jcv400ex]

Practice bikes will have head work done also. 55 sounds alot more reasonable.

And not being rude, but do you have the $1,000 that it will cost after every race weekend to replace the piston, valves, clutch plates, etc? Horsepower costs money. And if your not running the pro class, the extra horsepower isn't going to do anything for you. You can be competitive up to A class on a mildly tuned 450 with excellent suspension on it.

Riding skill and how the quad handles, makes up 80% of racing.

[Ripitupfilms]

Pro built engines are alot of work

[Quad18star]

There's only one way to settle this ... where's the Ironman himself ???

Even if the bike doesn't have 70HP or whatever horsepower , there's no argueing that it isn't a sweet bike . Don't pay attention to all the guys that will find more negative things to say than positive .... you have a Pro Built bike and not many people can say they have ever owned one .

[hetrick_racing9]

ye her name is aura-lee she a gud friend of mine.. she pritty hot i guess nun special.. shes still got my boxers lmfao... well anyways.. ye i swear on my heart he said low 70 but i unno mabee i wus hearing things.. secondly it will not have to have a new piston in it after every race... he had already told me that because i had asked him a lot of questions... all the maintainance he said wus change oil after every weekend for sure or after every moto... and other stuff ... i dont knowwhat makes you think i would have to have it changed once after each race.. this pistons are designs to last a while expecially the high compression ones for the pro bikes... mabee half way thru he season.. and i mite lose 1 or 2 hp but im not too woried about that...

and thanks a lot quad .. ur a real nice guy man.. hopefully u can come to one of my races or sumthing it would be nice to meet you...

o and by the way.. i know for a fact that you dont need to change the pistons after every race because i have been with john after a weekend of racing he doesnt change them every race and neather does my very close friend greg gee who also runs pro-am and pro... anything else im doing wrong? or saying wrong?

congrats on gettin natalies quad...i have one of spaders 06 race quads...dasa motor making 62HP, but dan lamey said he can get 65hp but it wont be reliable enough for 1 moto so he wont do it. Spader said he gets about 5 hours on a built motor and 25 hours on a stock motor befor they start losing power. Travis told me i would get a whole season out of my motor if i changed the rings like half way through the season... I had about 20 hours on my dasa motor and the cases cracked so dasa is putting new cases on it and a stock piston so it will last longer befor cracking the cases. During the winter pat brown puts a stock piston in his race motor so he can get more hours out of it. these motors pushing 60hp need alot of attention if u plan on keeping it running strong for long.


Wills 77

[jcv400ex]

I'm not saying it's not a sweet looking quad, but the higher the compression, the less reliable it's going to be. If you leave that piston in until it goes, then you'll ruin other parts. If that motor is built to last longer than 20 hrs, then it's not putting out 70hp and it's not a race engine. You said it yourself about the valves also.

Pro guys usually tear down their motors after EVERY race. It's better to pay money towards preventive maintence than getting a DNF at a race when your in the pro class.

Just be carefull with the motor, that's all I'm saying.

[trick250r]

high performance, high maintence.

[wolfpack91]

Nice quad!! You should be proud of it. Don't listen to all of these dumb arse people trying to bring you down with all of their expert knowledge on every existing quad on earth.

Let it go people, it doesn't matter what shocks, HP, wheather it was a race or practice bike, an 04, 05 or 06 or any of that crap. It was a pro's quad and that by it's self makes it cool.

Enjoy your new ride and don't defend yourself on here for your purchase.

[hetrick_racing9]

thanks man.. i just dont feel that im going to need to change the piston .. plus its got a fresh one in it right now.. but to make sure ill call john up soon and find out.. acctually i think i will tunite

[FHKracingZ]

alot of pro's DO NOT rebuild there race bikes every week, only a select few. Most pro's go 4-5 nationals on a pro motor. You gotta relize that 5 nationals on the pro's race bike thats only 3.5 hours. Thats not alot of time on a motor at all and most people are breaking there motors in at 3.5 hours. They ones that rebuild them all the time is team suzuki, factory yamaha, byrd and natalie , even wimmers race bike didnt get swapped pistons and gone through untill every few nationals.

[JForestZ34]

I want to see some action shots with you on that thing. Go rip it up somewhere.



James

[hetrick_racing9]

ye i know ... we might be putting a stock piston or something in it.. just for the beggining of the season... and for the action pics i mite be goin to ride ina a indoor track someone told me about ... so i mite have some pictures soon but if i dont go i wont tioll around april

[Dupontster]

Nice 450. Any action pics??

[ZSNOW]

you are one lucky man...takecare of that thing with your sole..then sell it to me for like 100 bucks:D no man just playing but you better be thanking your parents for that thing
keep me updated on this thing and don't let all these arses on here put you down
Z

[hetrick_racing9]

thanks man .. if i get my graphics, precision steering stabalizer, and custom numbers and number backrounds for it soon.. ill take osme pics of it in the snow lookin all shiny... for QOTM and then i might be gettin some action pictures if i go to a indoor track in london ontario this winter.. but i dont think there are to many big jumps in it..

[ZSNOW]

hey bigger then the jump in my back yard haha:D

[IronManNatalie]

Hye guys whats up. I keep track of what everyone is up to on these forums so I thought I would stop and say hi. Yes "hetric" did make the long drive to pa t pick up my 06 RACE bike. This bike makes around 59 to 62 horsepower. It depends on the weather,jetting,gas, and many other variables. His bike is completely gone over with many new parts. If he would have tried to build this bike on his own it would have cost around 20 grand. Its got a fresh motor in it with one of my RACE heads from last year. We used the same valves all year long in on of my practice bikes with around 58 horses. We normally use stock valves. The piston should last at least half the season if he uses good race gas and takes care of the motor. The gears in the tranny are all brand new and he wont even come close to puttin a beaten on the gears like I do. Usually the cases cracking come from rev boxes letting the engine over rev and vibrate too hard. most cases that are cracked come from 05 bikes not 06.he should be fine there too. Anything can happen at anytime so there is no gaurentee for sure but right now its in great shape. the suspension is exactly valve like mine. it is brand new never ridden on. He will probably have to change things to suit him though. As for dasa I know they got over 70 h.p. outta Joes bike. it only lasted 2 motos but it was there. The bike I have in my garage is about a 65 h.p. motor. It IS VERY hard to kick. The decompression arm was adjusted a little big so that it would start on less kicks. I could make your stock 450r motor impossible for you to kick just by adjusting this arm out.

[hetrick_racing9]

thnx for clearifying everything john.. some people didnt quite beleive me on some things and i was wrong on some things too.. so the valves shud last the hole year running on c12 and the piston half the season.. :) :confused:

[hetrick_racing9]

o yeah john.. will i still be able to take it in for the recall on the throttle levers to honda.. im kinda sceptic cuz i dun want them puttin a new spring in or anyhting its nice how u got it