LT1 Camaro vs Fox body mustang

[Jake250ex]

Lately I have been debating on which to get. Im gonna sale everything I got to find one and fix it up. I have an offer for a 94 camaro with a 4spd Auto and a LT1 wth under 100k miles thats in mint condition for $3500. I know the LT1's put down alot more power, but the 9 out of 10 mustangs have manual trans and thats what I want. I think the mustang sounds much better too. Im not sure, I know now the camaro would have more power but I think the mustang has more mod potential and fun to drive. What do you guys think would win a a 1/4 mile, the camaro I described or a Fox body with a 5 speed?

What do you guys think?

[mickey400ex]

stock the lt1 will walk it, what mods are u planning to do?

[honduh440]

if ur going to do basic stuff like exhaust filter and all go with the camaro 100% but if ur gonna start doing internal motor work absolutely dont get the camaro those LT1 motors are horrible problems left and right with the comptuer

[mickey400ex]

and what kinda problems are with the computers with those cars?, i had a 93lt1 for over 4 years with no problems beside 1 waterpump, and an icm module

[TGW_400ex]

Not only is the camaro faster everyone and their brother doesn't have one.

[y3llow400ex]

get the mustang. nothing sounds like a mustang, plus in my opinion fox bodys have alot more potential. the camaro might be 3-4 tenths faster in a quarter mile depending on the driver. plus the newer body style camaros are ***** to work on. its would take alot less to get a fox lets say in the 12's then it would a camaro.

[Mxjunkie]

Camaro, slp offers a ton of stuff for them and everyone and their brother has a darn mustang, I think the camaros sound better then the mustangs, every mustang I've herd is allways raspy as heck

http://video.ls1tech.com/video/70462208-A539-4A4C-B5E8-D747E6FFC88C.htm


http://video.ls1tech.com/category/Dyno/3/c46d1f9a-a21c-4e38-94b4-982b0119cd8e.htm

[06YFZ450SE]

I would get the LT1 Z28. It will walk the Mustang mod for mod. Dont lissten to who ever said when you do a cam mod to the LT1 the computers are horrible. All you have to do is send the computer to PCM tuning and they will hook you up.


I had an 97 LT1 Trans am WS-6 with Comp Cams 306 with PCM tuning,Hooker LT's Headers,Borla muffler,Richmond 373s,Vig 3200 stall, Shift kit,MSD 6A Box. Bigger Fuel Injectors. The Best I got out of it 1/8 and 1/4 mile was 8.18@86MPH and 12.35@115MPH.

Just go to LS1tech.com and you will find all your needs.

All you have to do to get an LT1 in the 12s is, LT's,Borla muffler,373 gears,2800-3500 stall I went 12.8s-12.9s and went I did the cam mod and tuned on the computer it went 12.3s

[BOOSTED2V]

Hmmmm.... bone stock fox body with a T-67 turbo and upper and lower control arms and it goes 10.90's all day on a drag radial.

Camaros are too hard to work on, and way to much money. You can buy make a fox body fly for cheap!

Lt1 IMO are junk... now if you had a LS1 you might be in business... lol

[idro]

Originally posted by BOOSTED2V
Hmmmm.... bone stock fox body with a T-67 turbo and upper and lower control arms and it goes 10.90's all day on a drag radial.

Camaros are too hard to work on, and way to much money. You can buy make a fox body fly for cheap!

Lt1 IMO are junk... now if you had a LS1 you might be in business... lol

this man knows....

but skip the turbo, just throw a beefed rear end, some welds w/ sticky tires on it and you'll hit high 12's on stock HP...

[underpowered]

Originally posted by idro
this man knows....

but skip the turbo, just throw a beefed rear end, some welds w/ sticky tires on it and you'll hit high 12's on stock HP...

very highly doubtful. teh stock 5.0 (302) doesn't put out much over 200 ponies. even in the light Fox body 13's is it stock, most i know of run low 14's in stock trim, or with an exhaust.

IMHO all mustangs sound the same, you hear it, you know it is a mustang. but i am a chevy guy all the way, but honestly the Fox bodies are just fun to drive. I would opt for the stang over teh maro, unless it was a later model with the LS1 instead of teh LT1. plus there are tons of bolt on for the fox bodies to make them quick for little money.

[Jake250ex]

Everyone says the camaros are faster, and I know they make more power but how come the mustang is nearly running the same 1/4 times? If the camaro was a 6 speed it wouldnt even be a debate.

How hard would it be to get that camaro in the low 12's?

I was thinking headers, a cam, a stall, intake, DR's and just other little bolt ons. What about a 150 shot of nitrous? Could it handle it?

How much would a cam, everything needed to install it, a stall and a port job on the stock heads cost? I heard that brings alot out of them.

[06YFZ450SE]

Originally posted by Jake250ex
Everyone says the camaros are faster, and I know they make more power but how come the mustang is nearly running the same 1/4 times? If the camaro was a 6 speed it wouldnt even be a debate.

How hard would it be to get that camaro in the low 12's?

I was thinking headers, a cam, a stall, intake, DR's and just other little bolt ons. What about a 150 shot of nitrous? Could it handle it?

How much would a cam, everything needed to install it, a stall and a port job on the stock heads cost? I heard that brings alot out of them.

I had a LT1 running low 12s with just bolt ons with no NOS all motor. add a 3200 stall shift kit,373 gears,hooker longtub headers with Offroad Y with a borla muffler,Comp Cam 306 thats a 540 lift cam,MSD 6A box, PCM tuning on the computer and the best I Ran was 12.3s @115-118MPH. Ya the LT1 will handle a 150 shot. If you add alot of HP your gonna have to change that 7.5 10 bolt your gonna brake it. 12 bolt or a ford 9". I put a ford 9" in my ws-6. On a 150 shot my WS-6 Ran 11.29@126-130MPH

Why Does Joe O with an All Motor LT1 running 8.0s in the 1/8 If an LT1 is junk let see an LS1 all motor run that time, He has the record for the worlds fastest all motor F-body.

[initall]

I am a former 5.0 fox guy.

but the LT1 is teh way to go, they can be made fast for cheap.

exhaust, cam, higher stall, 373 gear, dr you will be in the 12s

it will take a fox a hci, gears and dr to hit 12s

if you want fast go with a comaro

[chris450R]

Originally posted by Jake250ex
Everyone says the camaros are faster, and I know they make more power but how come the mustang is nearly running the same 1/4 times? If the camaro was a 6 speed it wouldnt even be a debate.

How hard would it be to get that camaro in the low 12's?

I was thinking headers, a cam, a stall, intake, DR's and just other little bolt ons. What about a 150 shot of nitrous? Could it handle it?

How much would a cam, everything needed to install it, a stall and a port job on the stock heads cost? I heard that brings alot out of them.



well, to tell you the truth about it all, it really depends what you are looking to do with the car you get. now the, mustang gets what power it has to the ground because of the way the motor makes power and the torque it puts out. also the mustang(fox body and newer) are quit a bit lighter than am Camaro. the LT-1 has gobbs of more torque so it will spin more of the line if you get a little throttle happy. with it, you got to almost bog it off the line pretty good so it will hook but then it will take off pretty good. part for part the Mustang will end up being cheaper to mod out though. there are endless number of parts available for both, but the Mustang is alittle cheaper. but, there is nothing wrong with the LT-1's except for the that opti-spark is prone to going out on them and there alot of replacements for that, that are way better.

oh and if you are looking for a manual in either one, you won't be using a stall. plus a stall is only worth getting if your taking it to the strip alot.

but either will be great. i am a general car guy, so i don't really favor one or the other. i love Camaros and love Mustangs.

[mickey400ex]

i say grab the lt1, get a set of headers, cutout, cold air induction, 3k stall, 3.73s and your looking at 12's

call lloyd elliot and get his heads and cam package and your looking at deep in the 11s

your looking at around 3k in mods right there and that will give most new cobras a spanking if you do it right

and lt1s love the juice, i had a 100 shot on mine with no fuel upgrades, get a fuel pump and bigger injectors and they can go up to a 200 shot all day long

[coolex]

get the lt1

u guys beat me to it, everyone and there grandmother has a 5.0, i have 4 friends that have 5.0 fox bodys, and one that has a lt1 with exhaust and itll spank em all day

[y3llow400ex]

canaros sound like ****. theres a ss that drives by my work everyday and it sounds like the entire exhaust is made of pepsi cans.

[coolex]

Originally posted by y3llow400ex
canaros sound like ****. theres a ss that drives by my work everyday and it sounds like the entire exhaust is made of pepsi cans.

maybe it is, my friends sounds nasty though, but its a z-28

[y3llow400ex]

dont get me wrong camaros are fast, but im a ford guy and i would go with the mustang. parts are so much cheaper too. just for a cap and rotor on the lt1 is $150 +

[hondajoe05]

Lt1...:eek:!!!!!!!!!!!!!! F the mustang 5.0 everyone has one... Lt1's sound bad *** your neighbor or whatever must have one ****ty exhaust on their or something.... even if the Lt1 is more expensive to do work on ... i'd but it ...

[hondajoe05]

buy*... if your lookin in on spending more money go with the turbo charged mustang.. or maybe its supercharged saleen verison i dunno but i seen one of those modded bad boyys pull the front tires off the ground when we asked him too race us jokingly it was crazy ... and i know a guy with a supercharge dodge dart 2 door coop with a supercharged 454 stuffed in it... and it pulls low 8's in the 1/4th mile at about 120 mph and still doesn't get the the front off the ground

[idro]

Originally posted by underpowered
very highly doubtful. teh stock 5.0 (302) doesn't put out much over 200 ponies. even in the light Fox body 13's is it stock, most i know of run low 14's in stock trim, or with an exhaust.

IMHO all mustangs sound the same, you hear it, you know it is a mustang. but i am a chevy guy all the way, but honestly the Fox bodies are just fun to drive. I would opt for the stang over teh maro, unless it was a later model with the LS1 instead of teh LT1. plus there are tons of bolt on for the fox bodies to make them quick for little money.

research > *

go on any mustang forum and look at people with lakewood/4 cyl springs, sticky tires and 31 spline rear ends are running. I bet you will be highly surprised.

Back when my car was NA i cut a 12.8 on stock HP with those mods i listed. So it can be done. Just tach up to 4500 once you get the go dump the clutch and let the sticky tires do the rest.

Most people who cut 14's in mustangs are just those who go out to the track to 'have a good time'.

EDIT: Getting a stang into 12's like that is not done by just an average person who goes to the track for fun though.

[Rastus]

Hahaha, I'd like to see how long a T-5 and drivetrain last dumping the clutch at 4500 with stickies. :D

One of my buddies has a 5.0 and it's decently fast, but it's no match for his brothers 95 Z-28.

[06YFZ450SE]

Clean your ZPM Box out

[Jake250ex]

cleaned it

[Jake250ex]

Ok, I have a few questions. How hard is that cam to install, and will I need new lifters and valve springs? Should I get the heads ported with it?

And I have tranny questions. First of all, what kind does this car have in it do you think? Its an auto, thats all I know. I was told a trans brake will make an auto launch like a manual and with a shift kit and stall a manual wont hold a candle to it...? How much would it cost to install this stuff, and how hard is it? Like I said I know a mechanich, and he likes to exchange work for a 6 pack of coors :)

thanks

[Kickstarts-suck]

Originally posted by Mxjunkie
Camaro, slp offers a ton of stuff for them and everyone and their brother has a darn mustang, I think the camaros sound better then the mustangs, every mustang I've herd is allways raspy as heck

http://video.ls1tech.com/video/70462208-A539-4A4C-B5E8-D747E6FFC88C.htm


http://video.ls1tech.com/category/Dyno/3/c46d1f9a-a21c-4e38-94b4-982b0119cd8e.htm


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this one sounds SO good
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[Jake250ex]

I still cant find what tranny it has in it - a 4L60E right? I cant find a stall for it if thats the one...

[blasterfreak99]

Originally posted by hondajoe05
buy*... if your lookin in on spending more money go with the turbo charged mustang.. or maybe its supercharged saleen verison i dunno but i seen one of those modded bad boyys pull the front tires off the ground when we asked him too race us jokingly it was crazy ... and i know a guy with a supercharge dodge dart 2 door coop with a supercharged 454 stuffed in it... and it pulls low 8's in the 1/4th mile at about 120 mph and still doesn't get the the front off the ground

does the dart hook as well as the stang? that is prolly the only reason why it won't lift up the front wheels, that or that dart is just really heavy

[hondajoe05]

i don't really know whats all done to it its modded to hell all i know the 454 doesn't fit too good either its fast as hell tho ...

[MXRACER86]

LT1 sucks to work on, very tight

[cool 300ex]

Originally posted by TGW_400ex
Not only is the camaro faster everyone and their brother doesn't have one.

Right on! I see so many dang mustangs around her it makes me sick. I think the fox body stangs are really ugly. I like both ford and chevy but i favor the Camaro's more. Got 2 67's in the garage.


LT1 sucks to work on, very tight

What car isn't tight to work on these days? Come on they pack so much crap on any new car these days!

[Project300EX]

I didn't want to read everything, but I know somebody had to have said something about the fexes being weak. Well they are stock. The heads restrict the hell out of the 5.0. I say get the Fox and some aftermarket heads. 5.0s have a lot of potential.

[Project300EX]

Originally posted by hondajoe05
buy*... if your lookin in on spending more money go with the turbo charged mustang.. or maybe its supercharged saleen verison i dunno but i seen one of those modded bad boyys pull the front tires off the ground when we asked him too race us jokingly it was crazy ... and i know a guy with a supercharge dodge dart 2 door coop with a supercharged 454 stuffed in it... and it pulls low 8's in the 1/4th mile at about 120 mph and still doesn't get the the front off the ground

1/4 mile at 120mph? I don't think so. That's about a 11-12 second speed. Also if he's running 8's he'll be pulling the wheels to some extent.