350, 450, or 700? yamaha

[slo250]

trading in my 06 pos trailblazer 250
on a 06 350, 450 or 700 or banshee
just tryin to figure out witch one would be best
for me prolley goin to do street and trail riding
the trail-slug was just too slow. what do you guys think?

[oldskoolex400]

700 or 450

fo fiddy...you will be severely dissapointed w/ the 700...my dad has one, i was totally shocked at how slow it is...:eek: :ermm:

[oldskoolex400]

is the 700 stock?

[pkrblaster]

yeah right dude go with the 700 for trail riding has reverse and is faster than the 450

Originally posted by pkrblaster
yeah right dude go with the 700 for trail riding has reverse and is faster than the 450

No it isnt, the 450 is way faster! trust me. My dads isnt stock and he raced a guy on a stock 450 and the guy on the stock 450 beat him. they switched bikes and the 450 still won.

[oldskoolex400]

dude c'mon man dont start the crap of which is faster, the 450 owns it on the track, i dont see alot of xc guys switching off yfz's to go to the 700, why dont you ride them all and see what you like better, we dont need to make the descision for you

Originally posted by oldskoolex400
is the 700 stock?

No, it has a full HMF, with the Dubach computer tuner and a pro-flow intake, K&N filter...and it gets stomped by stock 450's even when they switch bikes...it still gets stomped...the 700 is just slower than the 450's...

Originally posted by oldskoolex400
dude c'mon man dont start the crap of which is faster, the 450 owns it on the track, i dont see alot of xc guys switching off yfz's to go to the 700, why dont you ride them all and see what you like better, we dont need to make the descision for you

I have rode all of them, and i can tell you from personal experience that the 450's are all faster..the 450's were designed with racing in mind. the 700 was designed with trail riding in mind...obviously the 450's are going to have much more powerful engines!

[700bRad]

Originally posted by the_440_kid
No it isnt, the 450 is way faster! trust me. My dads isnt stock and he raced a guy on a stock 450 and the guy on the stock 450 beat him. they switched bikes and the 450 still won.

Look in my sig... The 700 will eat a 450 stock for stock. When you hit 3rd gear on a 700 say goodbye and dont look back.... And if you want to talk power, there is nothing like the brute grunt of a big bore. These are unbiased facts that I am stating. I am on a 450 kick right now because of the agility and weight difference but if you want to ride a crotch rocket with 4 wheels, ride a 700r.

Originally posted by 700bRad
Look in my sig... The 700 will eat a 450 stock for stock. When you hit 3rd gear on a 700 say goodbye and dont look back.... And if you want to talk power, there is nothing like the brute grunt of a big bore. These are unbiased facts that I am stating. I am on a 450 kick right now because of the agility and weight difference but if you want to ride a crotch rocket with 4 wheels, ride a 700r.

Look man, I dont have the time or patience to sit her and argue with you, I know what Ive rode and what Ive seen and what Ive raced. I know what the outcomes were and the 700 raptor is slower than a YFZ,TRX, and LT-R...and Im pretty sure its goin to be slower than the KFX...BTW, did you not read my earlier posts?..my dad owns a not stock 700r and it gets eaten by stock 450s!!!:rolleyes: :ermm:

[oldskoolex400]

440 im not talkin to you, im talkin to pkrblaster

[700bRad]

K kid, first thing im not trying to start an argument with anyone im just hear to put in my 2 cents. And second thing I would have no idea what im talking about on this topic since I own both and ride the piss out of them, now would I?

[oldskoolex400]

i know a raptor wont beat a 450 in mx

[pkrblaster]

all i was saying is i know my dads stock raptor can take my yfz450, but it can not beat my ltr, by the way i wasn't trying to start an argument just sayin what i know so whatever

[700bRad]

Originally posted by oldskoolex400
i know a raptor wont beat a 450 in mx

Probably not but I guarantee you this one would put up a fight.
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j207/YFZbrad/index.jpg

[slo250]

how bout in a drag on the street not in mx or trail 700 or 450?
can i eat a banshee on a 450?

[oldskoolex400]

yea it would put up a good fight if the 450 was only piped,filtered, and cam mod with no suspension

[700bRad]

Wow dude...

Slo250, it depends on how modded your shee is...if you had one like MXJUNIE....i dont think a relatively stock 450 could touch you.

700bRad, i dont mind you putting in your 2 cents, thats all i was doing.

oldskool- its all good man!

i guess that awnsered everyone?:confused:

[CHEVYZ]

It depends on how you look at it. Stock the Raptor should take them. Slightly modified the 450s show their potential. When it comes the bigger bucks, the 700r engines is one of the best for just making power. They are designed very nice and have more potential in the long run.

The Banshee is a good bike for street racing, but that is about where it is gonna stop for the Shee. Granted they have some of the most potent engines available today for making power, they have a horrible chassis layout and are very unreliable IMO.

As for more technical areas such as the trails or MX, it comes to what you feel comfortable on. All of the bikes you listed feel very different from one another. Certain riders will naturally like the ride of one over the others.

[700bRad]

Yes were all good :D

Originally posted by oldskoolex400
yea it would put up a good fight if the 450 was only piped,filtered, and cam mod with no suspension

umm..sorry, pin the shee...and dump it...it says goodbye...i havent seen a 450 that could beat a shee on asphalt...seriously, 2-strokes react so well to mods...it takes practicly nothing to make a shee really haul ***...

Ok fellas, im going to end this Bull****.....the one that will beat all the others no matter what!...is...the on with the better rider!!!!:D

[oldskoolex400]

440 kid, once again im not talking about the banshee, i am talking about the 700r raptor he posted

Originally posted by oldskoolex400
440 kid, once again im not talking about the banshee, i am talking about the 700r raptor he posted

dude, I know...you dont have to keep explaining yourself...its the internet ok...;)

Like I said, it doesnt matter if your shee ihas 100 hp...if you cant ride it your gonna lose....whoever is the best rider is gonna win!...period!

[slo250]

stock top speed of 450 700 & banshee?

[oldskoolex400]

umm..sorry, pin the shee...and dump it...it says goodbye...i havent seen a 450 that could beat a shee on asphalt...seriously, 2-strokes react so well to mods...it takes practicly nothing to make a shee really haul ***...

above this you put a quote from me saying it would put up a good fight, i want to make it clear i dont think a 450 will beat a shee, in turn doing this making me look like a dumbass, respectively

Shee= 82.3
YFZ=74.8
Rappy=73.7

Not all shee's handle badly!....Which one do you think would win on the MX track?

[700bRad]

A YFZ definetely cant shoot a hill like a 700r can....

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j207/YFZbrad/Picture001.jpg

Or this one?:confused:

Originally posted by 700bRad
A YFZ definetely cant shoot a hill like a 700r can....

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j207/YFZbrad/Picture001.jpg

IDK..my dads sits low in the back end...everytime he crests a hill the skidplate for the swinger drags...i dont like it...but then again so does the YFZ's...:ermm:

In a drag race of course a raptor will wreck a yfz. There was a 700r at one race, I would poop all over him in the turns and tight sections, but in the straights he just pulled away.

[slo250]

how bout reliability & maintence

[700bRad]

Originally posted by slo250
how bout reliability & maintence

Reliability?

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j207/YFZbrad/Picture003.jpg
Rock on.....

For reliability...id go with one of the fourstroke...the shee is relatively reliable if you run the right premix in it and dont mod it to hell....that ruins the reliabilty...

My dad has owned 5 shee's...to me, there will never be anything that will replace that two-stroke howl...6th gear pinned comin down a long straight...CPI in frames...man, that is like heaven in your ears....:cool:

[Tater049]

Even though i have a YFZ, i saw TRX450r, stock, more reliable than basically any 450 sport quad.

id say pick up a used banshee for fairly cheap (compared to a new 6 grand+ quad) plus the fun factor is awsome, afterall isnt that why everyone rides anyways?:D

[06YFZ450SE]

It really matters what kind of riding you do. I was in the same boat picking between the 450-700. I new someone with both ad I rode them both and the 450 felt better and didnt feel top heavy like the 700. and the 450 was alot faster too. I'd go with the 450

[firefighterjosh]

Stock for Stock

On asphaulst:
1st Raptor
2nd 450s
3rd banshee.

On the track jusr depends on rider ability and what you are confortable on. My friend had a all stock honda 450r and I watched him eat up fully decked out 450s all day.

[Honda400exrox]

Originally posted by the_440_kid
Look man, I dont have the time or patience to sit her and argue with you, I know what Ive rode and what Ive seen and what Ive raced. I know what the outcomes were and the 700 raptor is slower than a YFZ,TRX, and LT-R...and Im pretty sure its goin to be slower than the KFX...BTW, did you not read my earlier posts?..my dad owns a not stock 700r and it gets eaten by stock 450s!!!:rolleyes: :ermm:

man you shouldn't lie, we raced my friends 06 450R and 06 700r and in a 5 hydro pole race the raptor walked all over the 450r, then we did a full concession and the raptor kill the 450, and for the record it was on a lightly used paved road (safety in mind people:blah: ) and they were both stock

[scruff_mcruff]

Originally posted by slo250
trading in my 06 pos trailblazer 250
on a 06 350, 450 or 700 or banshee
just tryin to figure out witch one would be best
for me prolley goin to do street and trail riding
the trail-slug was just too slow. what do you guys think?

if all your gonna do is street and trail, id go with one of the 400's. way less money up front and require way less servicing.

[400eXr1d3rZ]

Originally posted by oldskoolex400
i know a raptor wont beat a 450 in mx

I bet it will, with the right rider.

[oldskoolex400]

lol yea with the right rider on the raptor and the wrong rider on the yfz...but i think all of us already knew that

[roundsy]

it pretty much comes down to what you want out of the quad...if you want something strictly for trails, street, smooth powerband with a great top end and comfort then get a rappy 700, keep in mind your losing some potential on the track. if your going to get into any mx, want a lighter machine thats easier to throw around with better handling and just awsome acceleration, grab a 450