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rippenblaster06
01-04-2007, 11:37 PM
i am thinking really hard on buying a 240 kit from phantom racing. i was wondering how well they are. i want to know everything i need to know on them before i buy it, such as, what do i need besides the kit? do i need a bigger carb? what about reeds? do i need a stroker kit with it? and how well do they work in the woods? i ride fast trail riding? also can i use pump gas with it? your impute would help A LOT. thank you

Xater
01-05-2007, 03:18 PM
i would cheack out ct racing/trenga racing 240 kits. i wouldnt buy anythig from project blaster.

blasterfreak99
01-05-2007, 07:30 PM
why not i just spent 700 dollars in parts on my blaster from there

caterpillar
01-06-2007, 10:29 AM
I agree with Xater on this, The CT, Trenga 240 sonic kit is by far the best 240 kit you can buy. Very reliable and very fast! The phantom kit is actually a airsal kit. These kits are very good also, but the CT/Trenga kit is more powerful. The CT/Trenga kits come with everything you need, jug, head, pipe, reeds, intake (cr250), and carb. Hope this helps.


Mike

blasterfreak99
01-06-2007, 03:43 PM
aren't the vitos and the ct the same except the ct comes with everything you need

caterpillar
01-06-2007, 08:13 PM
The vitos 240 is not even close to the quality or power of the CT/Trenga 240. We race a blaster in the national tt and my son has a airsal 200cc jug and a CT 200cc jug. We also have two of the CT 240 jugs and nothing can come close to the CT 240. My cousins son has a vitos 240 with 500.00 worth of porting and it runs good but still will not keep up with our CT 240. Hope this helps.

Mike

blasterfreak99
01-06-2007, 09:18 PM
alright thanks now i have just got to come up with more money

blasterfreak99
01-06-2007, 09:41 PM
does the trenga racing big bore kit come with the gaskets, piston, wrist pin, circlips and rings. not the one from ct racing that you can buy from trenga, but trenga's big bore kit

caterpillar
01-07-2007, 05:42 AM
At 695.00 I'm sure that it does, but call to make sure. I would still save up some more money and buy a CT/Tenga Ultimate 240 Cyl/head. This jug has way more potential than the stock jug with a 240 sleeve. If your signature is correct you already have the carb and pipe along with a 3mm stroker this quad will be able to keep up with lightly modded 450's with no problem. ;) Be patient and save your money, you'll be glad you did.


:D

Mike

blasterfreak99
01-07-2007, 08:45 AM
thanks Mike. my sig is correct i just haven't put them on cuz i am waiting for my carb and then i have to buy a 240 kit and rebuild my parts motor. so all of my parts are in my bedroom waiting to be put on

blaster99
01-07-2007, 02:54 PM
why would anyone ever want to buy anything from trenga?!?!?!
project blasters has wicked good customer service and there 240 kit has a ton of power, if you get the standard kit you can use pump gas, if you get the firebreather you need race gas. you should probibly goto a 35 mil carb, and v-force reeds are good too.

Xater
01-07-2007, 02:57 PM
Originally posted by blaster99
why would anyone ever want to buy anything from trenga?!?!?!
project blasters has wicked good customer service and there 240 kit has a ton of power, if you get the standard kit you can use pump gas, if you get the firebreather you need race gas. you should probibly goto a 35 mil carb, and v-force reeds are good too. project blaster has the worst cusomer service.

blasterfreak99
01-07-2007, 07:39 PM
Originally posted by Xater
project blaster has the worst cusomer service.

that is so true i am still waiting on my carb from them and it took a week until my order even processed. and when it did i didn't get my parts for another week and my carb was shipped in another box and still hasn't got here yet

blaster99
01-08-2007, 04:00 AM
well they had exelent service for me.. .trenga had the worst service ever for me... i dont think you could gett much worse than how i was treated at trenga. Never in my life will i order anything from there again, the same is thought witith the 3 other fastest blasters in new england.

Xater
01-08-2007, 03:03 PM
i rather buy from trenga then project blaster...
i but my carb from there and it came early and came with very good directions. or you can call up CT.

Kendall33
01-08-2007, 04:36 PM
CT is the best you can buy as far as cylinders for a blaster...we tried every possible setup for the blaster :eek2:
also for the better life of the motor a long rod is awesome(even though Mike will disagree I think it gave it a little more power)...and makes everything run smoother inside just make sure everything as far as the cases are ground out plenty for clearance

blaster99
01-08-2007, 04:42 PM
it dident come very fast for me at all.. im in western mass... it took forever to ship, and it dosent help that trenga tkaes parts by other companys and basicly throws his name on them.. the carb is a cpw, the nerfs are extream manufaturing... im sure theres more... i might jsut be biasd agains trenga becasue of the horable customer service..... and concitering my dad almost killed him.. yeah it wasent good....

Xater
01-09-2007, 05:03 PM
Originally posted by blaster99
it dident come very fast for me at all.. im in western mass... it took forever to ship, and it dosent help that trenga tkaes parts by other companys and basicly throws his name on them.. the carb is a cpw, the nerfs are extream manufaturing... im sure theres more... i might jsut be biasd agains trenga becasue of the horable customer service..... and concitering my dad almost killed him.. yeah it wasent good.... WOW... project blaster just slaps phantom on different companies parts.

Xater
01-09-2007, 05:13 PM
i live in western mass too and my parts came early. w/e ive heard bad things about both places.

blaster99
01-09-2007, 06:18 PM
well at least projectblaster powder coats the silencers...

banshee84
01-09-2007, 06:30 PM
yeah and they slap a sticker on, that must be why my GF's exhuatss took 2 months to get to her house...

blasterfreak99
01-09-2007, 07:22 PM
i finally got my carb in today. i can't wait to put it on

sadinkins
01-09-2007, 07:57 PM
how about the power of the 200cc kits from trenga and project blaster/airsal.how do they compare? i would like to get 1 in the 5-6 hundred dollar range.what kind of power do they produce compared to vitos 240?

rippenblaster06
01-09-2007, 10:42 PM
so i'm reading that everybody agrees that ct has the best bore kit you can buy for a blaster but how well does it work in the woods for fast trail riding? could i get away with a stroker kit like just getting a high compression piston and all that good stuff or would i see more power and more of a reliable engine if i just go with the bore kit?

blaster99
01-10-2007, 04:06 AM
you would probibly get more out of stroking it.. and shaving the head to get some more compression..

blasterfreak99
01-10-2007, 02:00 PM
so i have $550 and i am working every day except sunday. almost there. i can't wait until i get the ct big bore kit and put it on along with the other stuff in my sig

woodsracer144
01-21-2007, 06:40 AM
what do the 240 kits run for? is tregna the one on ebay with the lite blue scilencer? and there about 1500? would a 240 that runs off pump gas keep with a 440ex ?

blasterfreak99
01-21-2007, 07:41 AM
the best (ct racing) costs 824 from project blasters website but on cts website they cost 9 sumthin. i am not sure about the trenga kit but you con go to their websitr also. it depends on wat all is done to the 440ex. mobile dyno has one that dynod 42hp an 30tq. so it would be a close race but i think the 440 would win cuz of tq

project blaster (http://www.projectblaster.com)

trenga (http://www.trengaracing.com)

C-LEIGH RACING
01-22-2007, 11:45 AM
Now I wish you would look at this, I have done found Caterpillar & Kendall33 on the same thread, now aint that something.

I'll second the motion on that long rod in a blaster engine & sence both those boys are moving up to the 450s this year & out of the 13/15 youth class, it dont hurt anything when you put a 4 mil long rod stroker in one either :D :D :D , aint that right cat.

You want to bolt on a cylinder kit that will perform like it was designed to do, go to CT Racing or LA Sleeve, those who made that top end kit.

Hey Cat, you guys ready for the 07 season.
Neil

blasterfreak99
01-22-2007, 01:57 PM
does any one know why the ct 240 big bore kit on project blasters website is $824 and the same one on ct's site is $955. wat is different between then

woodsracer144
01-22-2007, 02:52 PM
do you get the crank too? i thikn 850 or what ever it is is a bit muchif they dont put it that in unless you can have it a 240 with the stock crank.

woodsracer144
01-22-2007, 05:58 PM
hey guys and gals, are the la sleeves that the 240 kits and then you have to do small mods to your head and all that as goos as teh vitos or better or are they as good as your ct kits *** far as the head its self not with tevery thing els with the carb abd all that.
thanks i found some good deals i think on ebay,

woodsracer144
01-24-2007, 03:30 PM
any one know if there any good? i would like to know! right awaay!

C-LEIGH RACING
01-24-2007, 04:39 PM
Yes they are.
The LA Sleeve 240 cylinder bolt on kit is the best you can buy for a blaster.
The price being so high, which ever dealer it comes from is because those cylinders & heads are cast in the USA.
The price you see for the top end kit does not include the crankshaft.
Neil

woodsracer144
01-24-2007, 04:43 PM
there for asle with the reed cage and all that but for the carb for a a little over 900.
thanks! on the la sleeve site.

blasterfreak99
01-28-2007, 06:50 PM
i just ordered my ct 240 big bore kit thursday night so it should be here tuesday:devil: i can't wait. i got a race with a rappy 350 when i get it running.

woodsracer144
01-28-2007, 06:55 PM
what are the airasol(sp) kits, vitos has one and i sdont know whats the differents.

blasterfreak99
01-28-2007, 07:10 PM
i have no idea...sorry

C-LEIGH RACING
01-29-2007, 07:58 AM
The Airsel Blaster cylinders are cast by a company in Barselona Spain, are triple exhaust port design, reed chamber has a intake like the old 85/86 model 250R cylinders. They come in a 200cc & a 240cc version & are all aluminum with Nikisal bore.

Blaster,
when you get your CT cylinder kit in, pre fit the cylinder onto the cases & make sure there is enough clearance between the reed chamber on the cylinder & the transmission vent nipple on the cases.
That cylinder is so big that the little vent nipple will bump up under the chamber area & not let the cylinder seat completely down onto the case.
Neil

blasterfreak99
01-29-2007, 08:20 AM
thanks Niel. how do i fix it?

C-LEIGH RACING
01-29-2007, 08:53 AM
You can grind down the little nipple some or take a dremel tool & grind a groove in the outter edge of the reed chamber. Just be carefull if you do & not grind completely through.
Most of the time CT will clearance the cylinders in that area, but it still needs checking.
Neil

blasterfreak99
01-29-2007, 09:06 AM
ok thanks for the help. it is greatly appreciated.

Xater
01-29-2007, 04:39 PM
did you get it ported for your stroker crank?

blasterfreak99
01-29-2007, 08:06 PM
no but i got a spacer that goes under the jug that raises it up 3mm. so its all good

Xater
01-30-2007, 02:21 PM
did you get it today?

blasterfreak99
01-30-2007, 06:28 PM
nope. it turns out that they have just confirmed my order. i don't know how long it will be until they bill my dads account. i will let you know when i get it though. it kinda sucks though because i am goin ridin topmorrow after school and i wanted to put it on tonite

C-LEIGH RACING
01-31-2007, 08:16 PM
When you do get it, take your time putting it together & break the engine in good.
If you break the engine in by CTs break in sheet you will have to use at least a tank of gas through the engine before you can do any full throttle runs.
Neil

blasterfreak99
01-31-2007, 08:24 PM
thanks for the help. i looked at their break in sheet and it is ridiculous. 5 tanks of gas before complete break in:huh i usually do only one of cruising and one of fast riding and then ride the piss out of it. is it because it is a new cylinder?

Kendall33
01-31-2007, 08:40 PM
5 tanks of gas seems a bit crazy...We got our cylinders re-nickesiled for every national and a new piston/rings every race and a new clutch every race(they burn FAST)...But anyways we usually broke it in by going around idle speed for about 10-15 minutes...Let it cool down all the way....Do it for another 10-15 at the same speed then let it cool all the way down once again...Then ride it half speed(half throttle) the next time for 15-20 minutes...Let it cool down and then go racin full throttle:D hope this helps(it seemed to work for me)......otherwise do what they say....If you have a wide open field then that will be the best place to do it

newnick
02-07-2007, 06:12 PM
Kendall, are you using the airsal cylinder or is the ct cylinder nicosil also?

Kendall33
02-07-2007, 07:36 PM
I used both and they are both nickesiled

newnick
02-08-2007, 04:21 AM
Thanks
Would you mind telling who builds your motors? I'm building my son a Blaster and am trying to decide who to use on the motor.

Kendall33
02-08-2007, 04:35 PM
We had the airsal built by Bud Fischer, and my CT built by our local Yamaha dealer,Budd Bieschkie...The CT was noticeably faster but there were some reasons...The CT has a 250R style 6 bolt intake while the airsal was smaller and used 4 bolts for a blaster reed cage design...On the CT we ran a longer rod and a spacer plate which made the motor run smoother...and of course if you'd like to know our carb had a little porting and that helped with the flow of the air and fuel but I left that to Mr. Bieschkie;)

newnick
02-08-2007, 06:31 PM
Thanks for the info.

Kendall33
02-08-2007, 07:43 PM
Anytime