turned my 06er to a 06er/r LOL

[czrider263]

Installed the kit works nice so far. where i ordered it from now sells it as a kit so you don't have to order parts seperate....

Any questions just ask!

[czrider263]

another......

[400exrider707]

Sweet deal, how much did that run when it was all said and done?

[rollie]

Originally posted by 400exrider707
Sweet deal, how much did that run when it was all said and done?

im also wondering the same thing, i dont plan on converting yet though, my R starts up great so far!

[czrider263]

Yeah i had no problems with my e start till the second moto of my last race...... it craped out on me so i had to bump start and let it run at the start gate for 20 min.... Not something i liked while runing the 208. so i decided it would be nice to have a kick backup.

[400exrider0004]

Thats what I am talking about!!!!!! Thats the exact same thing I did.....

[eganracing]

what company and how much?

[Houser450]

im also curious to how much that cost and the company that you got it from as a kit any info greatly appreciated
thanks Lee

[FBRacing76]

I was curious when you convert over to a kickstart, does the carb have the place for hotstart with the kicker? And does the kit include the cable and stuff for the hotstart?

[czrider263]

No there is not a hot start......

[the Z Man]

So,,,, what does the kit cost and who makes it???

[dober250R]

who sells the kit and how much home-slice?

[honda4life72]

Originally posted by 400exrider0004
Thats what I am talking about!!!!!! Thats the exact same thing I did.....

did you spray paint your motor mounts? or get them powder coated? i may do mine and want to know how it will hold u p..and did yo uget the head painted?

[dober250R]

Is this a big secret or something?

[Romp013]

Yeah...whats the deal here...who makes the kit? Also, are you talking about running the kicker as well as the electric, or removing the electric?

[400exrider0004]

I am not sure who sells the kit becuase I got all the parts seperate. Pappy did all my powdercoating and so far it has help up fine. Im sure czrider will be glad to help

[stumpleg]

I don't think anyone sells a kit. You just have to buy all you parts from Honda.

[Architects]

Kickers own

[czrider263]

OK as i said i took a little while to make sure im giving out the correct part numbers so here you go






This project was completed with significant discount pricing on parts through the cooperation and
assistance of Mr. Howie Cawley, Parts Manager, at Pompton Honda Suzuki who may be reached @
(973) 839-1117. I highly recommend that you contact him if you desire to complete this project
and tell him you are a member of exriders.com. Pompton Honda Suzuki is located 444 Rt. 23 N.,
Pompton Plains, NJ 07444. They will accept your credit card over the phone and ship quickly.
KICKSTART CONVERSION '06 TRX450ER/R PARTS LIST
Fiche Reference Number Part Descripton Honda Part Number Number Required Price Each Total Amount


2 Pinion (28T) 28211-HP1-670 1 $45.63 $45.63
3 Plate, Kick Stopper 28215-HP1-670 1 $3.21 $3.21
4 Ratchet 28221-HP1-670 1 $24.41 $24.41
5 Spring 28223-HP1-670 1 $1.84 $1.84
6 Gear (31T) 28231-HP1-670 1 $33.97 $33.97
7 Collar 28232-HP1-840 1 $4.16 $4.16
8 Plate 28233-HP1-840 1 $2.33 $2.33
10 Spindle 28251-HP1-840 1 $47.51 $47.51
11 Spring 28261-HP1-840 1 $5.11 $5.11
12 Collar 28282-HP1-840 1 $5.27 $5.27
13 Bolt, Flange (6x14) 90004-GHB-620 1 $1.87 $1.87
14 Washer (14mm) 90451-PC9-000 1 $2.83 $2.83
15 Washer B (22mm) 90455-ML7-000 1 $2.33 $2.33
16 Washer (27x20x1) 90554-728-940 2 $3.94 $7.88
17 Bearing (22x29x10) 91007-HP1-671 1 $4.61 $4.61
18 Bearing, Needle 91105-KN7-671 1 $3.57 $3.57
19 Bolt, Hex (6x16) 93301-06016-0A 2 $0.40 $0.80
20 Circlip (19mm) 94510-19000 1 $0.53 $0.53
22 Gear (25T/13T) 28240-HP1-840 1 $88.41 $88.41
2 Arm, Kick Starter 28300-HP1-840 1 $101.67 $101.67
19 Bolt, Kick Joint 28306-MEN-670 1 $4.09 $4.09
TOTAL CONVERSION PARTS COST $392.03

[czrider263]

Since thats a little hard to read and understand you need more 1 of some things so here a screenshot of it.

[Romp013]

So do you still have the e-start as well? or just he kicker? is it possible to have both?

[400exrider0004]

^^^ Yes

[czrider263]

Yeah im running both the kick is really a backup for the e start after if failed at my last race.

[Romp013]

How long did it take you to do the conversion and how difficult was it? Any special tools needed?

[czrider263]

I would say if i did it in one shot it would take 3-4 hours. It takes that long only because you have to drain the colant and trans oil; pop off the right case, and take the whole clutch off. Yes you either need a clutch tool to remove the nut or and impack gun. Once all that is done the actual instalation takes 10min.

[400exrider0004]

Yes I advise you get a clutch tool holder because I snapped my clutch basket because I didnt have one:rolleyes:

[scubasteve450r]

Originally posted by czrider263
OK as i said i took a little while to make sure im giving out the correct part numbers so here you go






This project was completed with significant discount pricing on parts through the cooperation and
assistance of Mr. Howie Cawley, Parts Manager, at Pompton Honda Suzuki who may be reached @
(973) 839-1117. I highly recommend that you contact him if you desire to complete this project
and tell him you are a member of exriders.com. Pompton Honda Suzuki is located 444 Rt. 23 N.,
Pompton Plains, NJ 07444. They will accept your credit card over the phone and ship quickly.
KICKSTART CONVERSION '06 TRX450ER/R PARTS LIST
Fiche Reference Number Part Descripton Honda Part Number Number Required Price Each Total Amount


2 Pinion (28T) 28211-HP1-670 1 $45.63 $45.63
3 Plate, Kick Stopper 28215-HP1-670 1 $3.21 $3.21
4 Ratchet 28221-HP1-670 1 $24.41 $24.41
5 Spring 28223-HP1-670 1 $1.84 $1.84
6 Gear (31T) 28231-HP1-670 1 $33.97 $33.97
7 Collar 28232-HP1-840 1 $4.16 $4.16
8 Plate 28233-HP1-840 1 $2.33 $2.33
10 Spindle 28251-HP1-840 1 $47.51 $47.51
11 Spring 28261-HP1-840 1 $5.11 $5.11
12 Collar 28282-HP1-840 1 $5.27 $5.27
13 Bolt, Flange (6x14) 90004-GHB-620 1 $1.87 $1.87
14 Washer (14mm) 90451-PC9-000 1 $2.83 $2.83
15 Washer B (22mm) 90455-ML7-000 1 $2.33 $2.33
16 Washer (27x20x1) 90554-728-940 2 $3.94 $7.88
17 Bearing (22x29x10) 91007-HP1-671 1 $4.61 $4.61
18 Bearing, Needle 91105-KN7-671 1 $3.57 $3.57
19 Bolt, Hex (6x16) 93301-06016-0A 2 $0.40 $0.80
20 Circlip (19mm) 94510-19000 1 $0.53 $0.53
22 Gear (25T/13T) 28240-HP1-840 1 $88.41 $88.41
2 Arm, Kick Starter 28300-HP1-840 1 $101.67 $101.67
19 Bolt, Kick Joint 28306-MEN-670 1 $4.09 $4.09
TOTAL CONVERSION PARTS COST $392.03

i see you left out part #21 on the fisch. it is listed as a plate oil guide wondering if you don't need it or if it is allready there?

[Romp013]

Can u tell me which bike the kick starter arm is from?

[Romp013]

So its the kicker from an 06 450R, but the one from an 04/05 is about 1/3 of the price...does the 04/05 kicker not work with this setup?

[czrider263]

Originally posted by scubasteve450r
i see you left out part #21 on the fisch. it is listed as a plate oil guide wondering if you don't need it or if it is allready there?


That plate is not neccary. it is a left over part from the 05 days. if you try to install it there is no bolt hole for it.

[czrider263]

Originally posted by Romp013
So its the kicker from an 06 450R, but the one from an 04/05 is about 1/3 of the price...does the 04/05 kicker not work with this setup?


do you mean the kick start itself or the internals? because you def need the 06 internals

[Romp013]

I meant the actual kickstart arm - pn: 28300-HP1-840. The 05 pn is 28300-HP1-000 and it is only like $40. Dont seem to be much different

[czrider263]

Originally posted by Romp013
I meant the actual kickstart arm - pn: 28300-HP1-840. The 05 pn is 28300-HP1-000 and it is only like $40. Dont seem to be much different


I don't know if you want to buy a 05 kick arm and see be my guest im just telling you what will work.

[scubasteve450r]

Originally posted by Romp013
So its the kicker from an 06 450R, but the one from an 04/05 is about 1/3 of the price...does the 04/05 kicker not work with this setup?


i have been told by two different people that say they have made the convert, that the 04/5 kick arm will work but that you have to sand the inside of it a little to get it past the clutch cover.
if you don't have to have the kick start emediatly, i would say to install the rest of the parts and just try one of your buddys kick arms off an 04/5 to so how much you have to take off before you spend the cash.

[scubasteve450r]

Originally posted by czrider263
That plate is not neccary. it is a left over part from the 05 days. if you try to install it there is no bolt hole for it.

thanks for saving me 5 bucks.:cool:

[hardcoreclown33]

ive got an 06 and i absolutly hate my electric start my battery is always dead it sucks im interested in adding a kickstart the only thin that kinda worries me is y didnt honda do this in the first place. also if i bought all these parts from my dealer and put the kickstart in is it pretty self explainitory to install these parts?

[czrider263]

With a manual you will have no problem doing it.

[hardcoreclown33]

ok cool looks like im gonna be ordering the parts then

[schulte_85]

best mod for the P.O.S ER, makes it a good quad

[spincr4hire]

05 Kicker arm will work. I just put the kickstart on my ER. I'm actually thinking about doing away totally with the electric start, but you have to buy a new carb w/hot start, new CDI, new wiring harness, and a couple of other small parts.

[speedfreaksguy]

Originally posted by hardcoreclown33
the only thin that kinda worries me is y didnt honda do this in the first place.

They did, look at the 04-05.

[scubasteve450r]

i have been useing mine either way, but mostly with the kicker for 4 months now and haven't had any problems. aloso i believe honda did do it this year on the 450 bike, the one that has a head light and is more set up for trails.