s10 with a 305 for $2000>?

[fasterblaster09]

One of my friends wants to sell me his little truck for $2000, its a little s10 with the 305 in it. Says all it needs is a little work on the door panel and thats it. Its one of the older body styles.Sound worth it>?

[wishmasstir]

that all depends on what shape its in. the 305 isn't a bad motor, is it a carb or tbi? its a great start for a fun truck though. what year is it?? post up some pics of it...

[Trevor]

sounds like a tire burner

[fasterblaster09]

I really dont know any deails on it, nor have any pics. I've seen him race a civic in it the other day, I havent seen it up close really.

[wishmasstir]

how'd it do against the civic?

the older 305 tbi's run like the newer vortec 4.3's. if you do get it, dont spend money on the 305 other than full exhaust (since exhaust can be used if you put another sbc in it) you can pick up decent 350 pretty cheap

check out http://www.s10v8.com/ & http://www.s10forum.com/ (has a v8 thread) i'm sure you'll really want to get it after reading some of this stuff...

[ilpadrino113]

I'd personally pull the 305 out and stick in a 350 or a built 327. You can get 350's for quite now a days.

[fasterblaster09]

he got off to a bad start, but still caught the civic and passed it . If i were to swap out the 305 w./ a 350, would it take fabrication? and also would it be hard to do? and would it fit right in?

[vpofthedrc]

I'll sell ya a 383 to throw in it for $2900.

[wishmasstir]

if its set up for a 305 it'll fit the 350 without fabrication as long as its the same type of setup. carb for carb - tbi for tbi (i dont think you need a different chip for the tbi 350) - vortec for vortec (you'll need to rewrite the computer, best is a custom tune). i think all carb/tbi/vortec sbc's will bolt up though. if its carbed now it probably has a manual fuel pump or an electric with a regulator. tbi/vortecs need an electric fuel pump for the efi. its very easy to swap motors, just take off the hood and maybe the core support hook up the cherry picker and unbolt the tranny from the crossmember, the 2 motor mounts and the exhaust, plumbing, wiring and your good to go.

[TheFontMaster]

I don't know about all the wiring stuff, but I know the 350 will bolt yup with the motor mounts you have, and will bolt up to your transmission.

[BigFish]

what kind of retard does a v8 swap and goes w/ a 305:rolleyes:

s10forum.com is the shizzle

I've had both. My current sdime is a 4.3 vortec, and I had an a '91 fullsize (standard cab/shortbed) w/ a 305 and the s10 would run all over it. 4.3 any day over a 305

Originally posted by BigFish
what kind of retard does a v8 swap and goes w/ a 305:rolleyes:

s10forum.com is the shizzle

I've had both. My current sdime is a 4.3 vortec, and I had an a '91 fullsize (standard cab/shortbed) w/ a 305 and the s10 would run all over it. 4.3 any day over a 305

4.3 vortec is the way to go. :cool:

[y3llow400ex]

305's are junk

[TheFontMaster]

And to add to the 350. I am picking up a running 350 motor in a couple weeks for 200 dollars, and it's got an edlebrock intake on it. Only thing it doesn't have is a carb, and distributor. All I need is headers, and I can drop it into my Regal. I can use the carb, and distributor out of the 307 thats in there.

The chevy small blocks are nice because so many parts can interchange between all of them. From the small stuff to do a motor swap, and even heads, and motor internals. So you can build the motor up to suit whatever you want to do. And that 305 is a good starter motor. You can bore and stroke it to a 33? and you can get close to the power that the 383 strokers make. In that 4-500 HP range.

[Sjorge450R]

i wish I could get my truck running :(. Its been running like crap.

[wishmasstir]

get some more info on the truck for us, and dont bother posting again without pics :devil:

im a fullsize guy and i've had a 305 tbi auto that sucked, my buddy had a s10 with a 2.2 5 speed and he would beat me in a drag, yes thats sad. my old 350 in my other truck wasn't bad but i have a 383 for it now. i have a 350 vortec motor in one that runs really good, very reliable motor

[y3llow400ex]

a 305 would be slower then a 4.3 vortec motor in a s-10

[Rastus]

OR, instead of spending all the money and hassle to put a 350 in, just mod the 305 alittle. A respectable cam and some good exhaust will wake it up a good bit. I really don't know why people go through all the hassle of switching from a 305 to 350, we're talking 20-30 HP gain. Sure, if you have big plans then switch it out because more C.I. is always better, but it's only an sdime. :ermm:

The reason the TBI trucks/cars sucks nuts is because of the stock cam and exhaust they put in the 305s and 350s. Terrible cam, looks like a peanut cam.
They are very reliable though, with great low end grunt.

[yz426rider]

I'll just sell you my truck and your worry's would be over about that S10.

1990 Chevy Silverado. Short bed 2wd 350. 5/7 drop on it boss 18inch chrome wheels. Carbon head lights. Flow master true duals on it. with Magnaflow tips. K*N air filter. Very clean well maintain'd truck. Motor has 64,000 on it and the trany and rear end has 12,000 on it! Camaro bucket seats. Pioneer 6 month old Head unit. Pioneer factory replace ment speakers. Very nice looking/ running truck! $4500

[Mxjunkie]

Honestly a worked 305 performs very well I dont see how some of you are saying they suck, a worked 305 or 327 will blow the doors off a 350,355.. It's not about displacement, the right modifcations and magic at the mill shop and your set to go with any motor you have.

[wishmasstir]

^^^ well do you think a worked 305 runs the same as a worked 350? i was just saying that a 350 is a better platform to start modding than a 305. my cousin use to build 305's in his race car, i know they are good motors...

[fasterblaster09]

im only a 16 year old, so i dont think i need to worry about a fully blown modded motor. maybe i could just get it and work the 305 a little until i have the money to swap. im really on a budget right now, until the summer i will have a better job. My main question is should i buy it before he sells it to someone else?

[wishmasstir]

depends on what shape the vehicle is in. a pos with a decent motor isn't worth too much. if your 16, this will be a great truck to have though. get those pics yet?

[NorCalRacer]

My truck had a 4.3 in it, full size though. The 4.3 was punched .20 out, I had the crank polished, put in clevite 77 bearings and mellings oil pump, comp roller cam and msd ignition. I also put in a high flow cat and mean streak muffler, as well as enlarging the exhaust up to 2 1/2"When I got sick of the FI I put in an old 305 out of a camaro and switched it from crossfire FI to an edelbrock carburetor and mallory distributor, that carbureted 305 beats the hell out of the 4.3, running through the same exhaust. They don't even come close. I don't know why everyone hates them, mine runs great:blah:

[red2004 TRX450R]

I have a v8 s10. and i have seem a lot of them.
and i dont know what your macanical skills are.
first off makes sure the truck is in decent condition. then look to see if the swap is a hack job or if it looks stock- professional. I have seen real bad swap jobs and they are not worth the time or money Unless you know what you are getting your self into!!!! if they have more than one fan (one in front and one in back) plan on getting the right radiator for it and replacing the heads. (late model 4 gen corvette rad)

if the engine is not pained up nice and clean most times will show lack of care given to the conversion and i would stay away from it.
look at the engine mounts to they look professional.
I could go on and on..

I had a 305 in my at first. it out of a 80's 4 door. I tour it down and did rings, barrings, valve job, gaskets, pumps, cam lifters, timing set edelbrock intake and holly 650 street crab. the cam was a summit racing street performance 305 cam.
it had a worked 700r4 trans with 3.73 gears.
I could beat 95% of the cars on the street. and people to this day clam it had to be a 350.
I could drive it all day and only push the throttle a 16th and get over 20 mpg but that never happened.

now a have a detuned drag 327 and i beat 350's 838's 454's all the time.

its not the size of the moter it how well the whole package works together.


my old 305
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/1qazse4/moter1.jpg

[fasterblaster09]

No I havent gotten pics due to a broken camera. It is TBI. Yesterday as riding through town, we pulled up to a nice little s10, I was about damn drooling. My friend told me thats the one im trying to buy./ It has aftermarket bumperS, lowerd, rims. It dont seem like a half-*** built truck, but I will check. My mechanical skills on a vehical, are well... not to good. So if I needed anything done, it would be my uncle. I think I would just keep the 305 for now and put some work in it, and maybe worry about a 350 in a year or two.

[wishmasstir]

if your buying it take it to a local mechanic and have him put it up on the racks to check it all out, make sure everything is sound on it

[86 Quad R]

believe me, there is a right way to do a v8 conversion and there is a wrong way. as long as it isnt a hack job i say go for it. have any idea as to what tranny is in the truck? does it still have the peg legged rear end or has a aftermarket carrier been istalled. a v8 conversion isnt any fun unless the peg legg has been changed lol. would be helpful if ya could post some pics of it.


btw: a 305 that is built RIGHT can make some ponies and be a ton of fun to play around with. not to mention, not be so bad on fuel milage with good matching gears and a o/d tranny. i built a 4.4 liter v8 chevy a few years back that would get 25mpg and managed to push about 290 hp. :devil:

[red2004 TRX450R]

Originally posted by 86 Quad R
believe me, there is a right way to do a v8 conversion and there is a wrong way. as long as it isnt a hack job i say go for it. have any idea as to what tranny is in the truck? does it still have the peg legged rear end or has a aftermarket carrier been istalled. a v8 conversion isnt any fun unless the peg legg has been changed lol. would be helpful if ya could post some pics of it.


btw: a 305 that is built RIGHT can make some ponies and be a ton of fun to play around with. not to mention, not be so bad on fuel milage with good matching gears and a o/d tranny. i built a 4.4 liter v8 chevy a few years back that would get 25mpg and managed to push about 290 hp. :devil:

he is 16 i would leave the single track rear in the truck. I did with my 305 when i was 16. I just have to pedal it through first gear if I was trying to drag race. but I had near 300hp with 373 g and low first gear 700r4.
and if it is going to be a daily driver I would deffently keep the single track because posi can get out of hand in the rain for a 16 year old letaloan an experienced driver. it is not fun in the rain.

with my current configuration driving in the rain can not be done!!!

but if it is just a play truck and he has a other car then go if it.

[86 Quad R]

i know what you mean about a true posi-unit and rain. very bad combo lol i believe an aftermarket limited slip would be the best alternative to a peg leg. even with a peg legger it be best left at home while raining due to the fact that it wouldnt pull away after making stops.

btw fasterblaster09 where do you race at in la?

[wishmasstir]

Originally posted by 86 Quad R
i believe an aftermarket limited slip would be the best alternative to a peg leg.

a factory limited slip works great though too and can be picked up from the jy's pretty cheap

[fasterblaster09]

Originally posted by 86 Quad R
i know what you mean about a true posi-unit and rain. very bad combo lol i believe an aftermarket limited slip would be the best alternative to a peg leg. even with a peg legger it be best left at home while raining due to the fact that it wouldnt pull away after making stops.

btw fasterblaster09 where do you race at in la?

I go to duhons mudpit mostly, and la dunes every once in a while, but we have a little dirt strip by my house I just practice on. Really no time to go places.

[86 Quad R]

i see. reason i ask is, there is a few dirt drag tracks south of Tallulah that we go to from time to time during the racing season.