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hsr
12-11-2006, 01:45 PM
So when are we going to see the mfg.'s start stuffing their 250f race bike motors into an atv chassis. Without the return of the blaster, the outdated 300ex, and suzuki and kawasakis need for an atv in this category, it sure would be cool to have. Suzuki has hinted on it, and the supposed 2008 AMA/ATVA gnc nationals are supposed to be offering a 250 class aimed at this sort of machine. What do you guys think? I think there is a huge demand for this kind of thing .

red4r
12-11-2006, 05:03 PM
i think that would be sikkk...have 250 pro and 450 pro and like that sort of thing

450robot
12-11-2006, 06:59 PM
im not sure, but i think ktm was planning something along with their 450 for a 250

i also heard RUMORS of a 250 class suzuki ltr

Architects
12-12-2006, 02:29 AM
This would be pretty sweet

300ex_#387
12-12-2006, 05:58 AM
I think it will be awesome, but i'm glad I will be getting out of this class before it happens. Lot's of kids here build these and run them in local 200/300 classes. They are very fast, but they can be beat by 300's. You can really tell the difference on the holeshots and straights. This is a picture of one of my races. Thats me in 2nd and I was prolly only in 3rd gear by the time he had that big of a lead. I think it will be great to have a 250/450 class.

300ex_#387
12-12-2006, 06:00 AM
Like I said, they can be beat by 300's though :D

12-12-2006, 08:12 AM
yeah the 250fs are good motor but can be beat by 300s and id put my money on a few built blasters as well

Ripitupfilms
12-12-2006, 09:05 AM
that kid should be able to smash he prolly cant ride

eastside 400
12-12-2006, 01:23 PM
yea i doubt 300's and blasters can hang with the 250f motors, the dirtbike 250f motors are putting out around 30+HP stock, put a pipe, cam and piston its over...

12-12-2006, 02:01 PM
right they put out around 30ish in a dirt bike, but put that into a quad frame and everything and youll be right around the 25-28 hp mark...juts look at the 450s, in a dirt bike they were making around 45ish but in a quad its around 37ish (give or take a couple HP)...a blaster could be built to compete...some blaster can make well intot he 40s HP

hsr
12-12-2006, 02:08 PM
I agree about the HP loss when putting the bike motor into an atv chassis, but the 250fs blow a 300ex or blaster motor out of the water when it comes to new advancements and technology. Much lighter, and I believe more potential. But definatly not as bulletproof as a 300ex motor, that's for sure.

300ex_#387
12-12-2006, 04:03 PM
All it takes is a good rider to beat one. I don't see why you guys think it's so hard to do that. I have to run against 4 of them almost every race around here. Most of the time one of them usually ends up winning, but not always. They will flat out smoke 300's and blasters in the straights, but there are more than just straight aways in MX. I think it would be great to have a 250 class, It would give everyone a fair advantage to run on the same machines. I just think some of you shouldn't assume so much. Like him being a bad rider...okay...nice comment I guess I cant be a good one :rolleyes: You prolly wouldn't believe me if I told you that was a stock 300 motor either. Lets just say that 250 isn't stock either. I'm good friends with all of those guys. Anyway anyone else have 250f's run at local tracks? I really dont see too many but just in my area.

416exmx
12-12-2006, 04:20 PM
All this talk about 250F race qauds, and no one wants to buy mine? :confused:

300ex_#387
12-12-2006, 04:27 PM
Originally posted by 416exmx
All this talk about 250F race qauds, and no one wants to buy mine? :confused:

I kind of wish you would stop building them actually. lol...You have lost me many trophies...

CFM Performance
12-12-2006, 04:31 PM
I would love to buy that quad, but I don't think the grandkids are quite ready for a machine of that caliber.......yet.

eastside 400
12-12-2006, 04:36 PM
were not saying a kid thats a better rider on a 300 couldnt win, but if u have equally skilled riders on a 300 and 250f quad, the 250f will win no doubt, you said it has more power and its overall a better engine then the 300's so equally skilled riders the 250f will win... also the dirtbike motors are not the same as the motors in the yfz and trx, the dirtbike motors use different internal parts, the crf450 have different cams, valves, pistons, CDI's, flywheels and pretty much everything possible different from the quad, they just share the same design

300ex_#387
12-12-2006, 04:46 PM
Originally posted by eastside 400
were not saying a kid thats a better rider on a 300 couldnt win, but if u have equally skilled riders on a 300 and 250f quad, the 250f will win no doubt, you said it has more power and its overall a better engine then the 300's so equally skilled riders the 250f will win... also the dirtbike motors are not the same as the motors in the yfz and trx, the dirtbike motors use different internal parts, the crf450 have different cams, valves, pistons, CDI's, flywheels and pretty much everything possible different from the quad, they just share the same design

I know your not saying that, I was refering to atvracer9m's post. Yeah defenatley with equal riders the 250f will take the win. I don't think that if factorys come out with 250 quads that they will be as fast as some of you think. They will have it toned down a little, but im sure with a few changes it will rip.

atvfrk10
12-12-2006, 07:05 PM
Originally posted by 416exmx
All this talk about 250F race qauds, and no one wants to buy mine? :confused:

That is one sweet quad. Do you have more pictures of that?

416exmx
12-12-2006, 07:25 PM
Originally posted by atvfrk10
That is one sweet quad. Do you have more pictures of that?

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c193/416exmx/IMGP0456.jpg?t=1165977976

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c193/416exmx/584de7c3.jpg?t=1165978063

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c193/416exmx/5bfbff73.jpg?t=1165978121

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c193/416exmx/3e59a2e1.jpg?t=1165978167

f1502nv
12-13-2006, 10:17 AM
All this talk about 250F race qauds, and no one wants to buy mine?

how much do you sell those for?