set up for sand.............

[jeff bearson]

lets see some good pics of ltr's set up for the dunes.....:blah:

[DVXracer]

yep this 1's sucsessful:tired:

[jeff bearson]

By the sounds of your user name, I dont think its very successful! Toughguy!!

[GSXR_4fiddy]

Here go dude... Set up for the Oregon Coastal AREA

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i77/B_Rosso28/Quad.jpg

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i77/B_Rosso28/Dunes3.jpg

[kennerz]

Here you go

[kennerz]

horrible pic, try again...

[Quady]

I know it is not as sandy after we got good rain which made it best riding ever I have ever been to

[rummerd]

Hey GXSR! Where you at in OR? I am in Veneta, a mere 48 miles from Florence. We should hook up for a ride, share some gas out there and back if you are near me.

[250r4life]

for those running 20 in rears, are you dropping the front sprocket a tooth, or whata you doing to compensate for the change in gearing by going form the 18s to the 20s?

[GSXR_4fiddy]

I went -1 in the front to 13

[GSXR_4fiddy]

Originally posted by rummerd
Hey GXSR! Where you at in OR? I am in Veneta, a mere 48 miles from Florence. We should hook up for a ride, share some gas out there and back if you are near me.

I'm down in Coquille. Horsefall Dunes is where I've been hidin out (CoosBay/North Bend) at this winter. But Im down for a drive up to Florence. Lemme Know...

[250r4life]

Originally posted by GSXR_4fiddy
I went -1 in the front to 13

kinda what i figured people would need to do...

[1QKBRD]

What size tire are you all running up front? Does it really matter if you change the front sprocket or the rear? What’s the best combo you all have found? Quad only see dunes and trail washes.

Thank you

[LTR450_#67]

Originally posted by 1QKBRD
Does it really matter if you change the front sprocket or the rear?

Thank you

Does it matter? Yes and no...... I say yes becuz you can't go down a # of teeth in the rear and get the same result as going down a tooth in the front. It's actually the opposite of going down in the rear. If you want to boost accelleration you make the front sprocket smaller. Going 1 tooth down in the front is relatively close to going up about 3 teeth in the back. And if you're looking to get more topend speed you do the opposite. Go bigger in the front and smaller in the rear.

Hope this helps

later
Aaron

[Quady]

it will make more sense if you have had a sport bicycle, where you could allocate your drive chain in between different sprockets at a twist of a knob ;)

[JSmall]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v414/JSmallwood/DSC00634r.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v414/JSmallwood/DSC00618r.jpg

[rummerd]

Rode about 4 hours at Florence today. Ran like a champ! It must be junk like some people are saying!!

[rummerd]

Last pic.

[GSXR_4fiddy]

That looks pretty mean dude... I like the black wheels on the yellow bike. Are those the ITP C-series 6?

[rummerd]

Type 5 I think. Not real sure, just told my hookup that I wanted them in black! Thanks for the compliment. I think it looks pretty tough too.

[TC440EX]

He's mine.

[FUELATV]

Here is mine ....

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/FUELATV2005/jamiejeffdavin2.jpg
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/FUELATV2005/jamiejeffdavin.jpg
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http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/FUELATV2005/jamiejeffdavin7.jpg

[FUELATV]

and the wifes ....

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/FUELATV2005/jamiejeffdavin22.jpg
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/FUELATV2005/jamiejeffdavin23.jpg
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/FUELATV2005/jamiejeffdavin25.jpg
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/FUELATV2005/jamiejeffdavin30.jpg

[250r4life]

Originally posted by JSmall
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v414/JSmallwood/DSC00634r.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v414/JSmallwood/DSC00618r.jpg

i think the LTRs are pretty ugly- but yours looks pretty mean... by far the best looking LTR that i have seen.

[rummerd]

If they are so ugly, WTF are you doing looking at a post that is nothing but LT-R's? You're just jealous.

[250r4life]

Originally posted by rummerd
If they are so ugly, WTF are you doing looking at a post that is nothing but LT-R's? You're just jealous.

you caught me!!! thats why in November when i bought my bike, i elected to get teh LTR since it is so sweet looking and is so much faster...

:eek2:

[z400rida44]

i agree with gsxr, the black wheels look great on the yellow ltr

[JSmall]

Originally posted by 250r4life
i think the LTRs are pretty ugly- but yours looks pretty mean... by far the best looking LTR that i have seen.

Thanks for the compliment:D

It will look a little different in a few days...Walsh long travel and Fox Float Evols:cool:

[z400roosteR]

kennerz and Jsmall, good choice on the paddles....FUELATV, why the hell are you running 6 paddles?:confused:

[FUELATV]

Cuzz they haul *** ....... if you didnt know know you know.

[nydeath]

off topic a bit, but can I get a review of the front "Mohawk" tires? Good for sand drags and hill climbs? I've always run dirt tires in the sand (front only.....Skat-trak extremes in the rear), but since I bent my front rims to hell, I'm gonna upgrade.......Thanks

I'll add a quad pic later to get back on topic!

[z400roosteR]

Originally posted by FUELATV
Cuzz they haul *** ....... if you didnt know know you know.
that's correct they do haul ***....while they're spinning not getting traction.....but your not hauling ***. So have fun with that one!!

[250r4life]

Originally posted by nydeath
off topic a bit, but can I get a review of the front "Mohawk" tires? Good for sand drags and hill climbs? I've always run dirt tires in the sand (front only.....Skat-trak extremes in the rear), but since I bent my front rims to hell, I'm gonna upgrade.......Thanks

I'll add a quad pic later to get back on topic!

although it is debated between say the sand stars and haulers for best rear paddle (and i see both sides- just depends on what you value the most... i will likely have both by next season), to me it seems unanimous that the sand star fronts are the best out there... that dual rib is just great... you can control much better, and i can corner on a dime with those things...

thats my advice- get the sand star fronts... i see lots of people with haulers on the rear and sand stars on the front...

[250r4life]

Originally posted by z400roosteR
that's correct they do haul ***....while they're spinning not getting traction.....but your not hauling ***. So have fun with that one!!

its best to spin then to over paddle you bike like you have done...

with the whole 25 hp that your bike is putting out, i guarantee it would be faster with 6 paddles than with 8

[250r4life]

Amoungst is actually spelled Amongst

[nydeath]

Originally posted by 250r4life
although it is debated between say the sand stars and haulers for best rear paddle (and i see both sides- just depends on what you value the most... i will likely have both by next season), to me it seems unanimous that the sand star fronts are the best out there... that dual rib is just great... you can control much better, and i can corner on a dime with those things...

thats my advice- get the sand star fronts... i see lots of people with haulers on the rear and sand stars on the front...

Thanks for the input....does anyone happen to know if Sand Stars heavier than Mohawks? I had narrowed my list to Sand Star dual ribs/Skat-Trak Mohawks or baldies.....

[z400roosteR]

Originally posted by 250r4life
its best to spin then to over paddle you bike like you have done...

with the whole 25 hp that your bike is putting out, i guarantee it would be faster with 6 paddles than with 8
LMFAO........NO, good to know you think your god's gift to the quad world but your not. My bike hooks up excellent. If you honestly think a 400 should run 6 paddles your ****ing retarded...and you even think a 450 should run 6....LMAO

[z400roosteR]

Originally posted by 250r4life
Amoungst is actually spelled Amongst
Good eye, you caught me sleeping.

Since we're playing that game.....Boyeson is actually spelled Boyesen.:D

[250r4life]

Originally posted by z400roosteR
LMFAO........NO, good to know you think your god's gift to the quad world but your not. My bike hooks up excellent. If you honestly think a 400 should run 6 paddles your ****ing retarded...and you even think a 450 should run 6....LMAO

i never said i was the God of the quad world- you're just an arrogant little punk teenager and i dont have a whole lot of patience for ya...

and i never said that the 450 should run 6 paddles, but i am for sure saying your 400 shouldnt run 8...

[250r4life]

Originally posted by z400roosteR
Good eye, you caught me sleeping.

Since we're playing that game.....Boyeson is actually spelled Boyesen.:D

you got me on that one... i'll give ya that...

[z400roosteR]

arrogant little punk teenager eh? Not hardly my friend, but if it makes you feel any better.. you can imagine me as some little zit faced 13yr old. Sitting on mommy's computer talking about my daddy's, or my friends friends third cousins bikes then by all means imagine!

[250r4life]

Originally posted by z400roosteR
arrogant little punk teenager eh? Not hardly my friend, but if it makes you feel any better.. you can imagine me as some little zit faced 13yr old. Sitting on mommy's computer talking about my daddy's, or my friends friends third cousins bikes then by all means imagine!

are you not a teenager?

no, im sure you have that z400...

and yes, youre a little punk

[FUELATV]

How about this ..... the TRX450R that won 4 stroke wars last year was running 6 cup comp cut paddla brats. The TRX is putting out well over 60 HP. I have tested 6 cup and 8 cup haulers. The 6 cup haulers win everytime. Dont believe me thats fine, BUT ITS A FACT ....... 6 cups are the way to go check around.

[Kracker]

On these bikes, with same mods, 6 will beat 8 at olds ALL DAY LONG.
Here is mine.
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f57/tlinkey/IMG_0506.jpg

[ja_lopezjr]

here ya go
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[ja_lopezjr]

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[FUELATV]

Nice ride ...... and SIK tires. The 6 cup brats are the GOODS.

[250r4life]

Originally posted by FUELATV
How about this ..... the TRX450R that won 4 stroke wars last year was running 6 cup comp cut paddla brats. The TRX is putting out well over 60 HP. I have tested 6 cup and 8 cup haulers. The 6 cup haulers win everytime. Dont believe me thats fine, BUT ITS A FACT ....... 6 cups are the way to go check around.

whata you talking about? yah- 6 cups may be good and well for a 60 hp trx, but once you get into the real HP like a z400 with a slip on has, man, you should be running no less than 8- probably more like 12...

problem is a lot of these guys care too much about looks or perception or whatever, and less about performance, so they go and over paddle their bikes...

[z400roosteR]

Wow...So because the bike that won in 4stroke wars was running 6paddles that automatically makes it the best on earth.....

Let's put a pro rider with 2 paddles against some 4 year olds with 6-7 and once the better guy wins i'm going to say that everyone on earth should run 2 paddles or they are just an ignorant prick....M'kay?

I'm just saying I run 8 paddles and i don't lose to other 400's no matter what paddles they are running, if i jump on our 450(not my bike but one of the bikes in the garage.....Don't want to anger 250rboy) with 9 paddles.....I don't lose to anything but a better built 450 w/ engine mods or a built banshee.

You run your 6 i'll run my 8 and my riding ability will put me in first anyways.

[250r4life]

Originally posted by z400roosteR
Wow...So because the bike that won in 4stroke wars was running 6paddles that automatically makes it the best on earth.....

Let's put a pro rider with 2 paddles against some 4 year olds with 6-7 and once the better guy wins i'm going to say that everyone on earth should run 2 paddles or they are just an ignorant prick....M'kay?

I'm just saying I run 8 paddles and i don't lose to other 400's no matter what paddles they are running, if i jump on our 450(not my bike but one of the bikes in the garage.....Don't want to anger 250rboy) with 9 paddles.....I don't lose to anything but a better built 450 w/ engine mods or a built banshee.

You run your 6 i'll run my 8 and my riding ability will put me in first anyways.

i was literally laughing upon reading your post...

the problem wasnt that you run 8 paddles- the problem is you started jumping all over somebody that ran 6... nobody came out and said you were stupid for running 8 until you started telling the guy he was stupid for running 6...

[FUELATV]

I am saying the the bike that won 4SW was well over 60 HP more like 70HP .....way more HP then your 400 will EVER see. They tested many tires from 6 cup to 12 cup tires. The 6 cups had faster et and top speed. If a 6 cup was enough for his bike it is plenty for your bike. Not to mention the Comp cut brats are 5lbs lighter per tire then the haulers. You have not tested tires in controlled conditions and you dont have a clue. Give me your paypal so i can send you a $20.00 ...... then maybe you can buy a clue? My grandma's 450 will beat your grandma's 450.

[250r4life]

so you went and updated your sig huh- my bad... you ever thought about getting those 14 paddle extremes? :devil:

in all seriousness, there is actually a guy in my group that has pretty much the exact set up that you have (only his is an athena 434 kit- not sure how you got the extra cc)... im not sure which stage cam he has in there, nor what compression he is running, but it is a pretty fast bike...

over new years we were sitting at the hill one night racing, and me and several other guys from my group were down shooting the hill, and got into some pretty good and large heats... well, he was getting smoked... he is probably 35-40 years old, and probably weighs 220-230.

me and the guys from our group went back to the top the rest and chill with the rest of our group, and when i started putting my helmet on a couple minutes later for round 2, he told me to go ride his bike as he wanted to see what it could do with him on it... with my experience of riding a couple piped z400s, and racing several, i was like "frick- im gunna get smoked..." i will admit, that i wouldnt have beleived that bike was as fast as it was until i had ridden it. it was not as fast as my YFZ, but i was right there with or beating several 450s and raptor 700s...

of course some of that was rider, but i was impressed with how fast it was... night and day difference over just a pipe... the next day my buddy who is porbably a little better rider than i am hopped on it and raced me on my YFZ, and i beat him up the hill, but only by a couple bike lengths... not by half the hill that it would have been with just a pipe...

Z400 rooster- i may act like a punk on here, but i do tell the truth and call it how i see it... i play a lot of devils advocate and just call out what i know not to be true... i dont BS

[Kracker]

Originally posted by z400roosteR
Wow...So because the bike that won in 4stroke wars was running 6paddles that automatically makes it the best on earth.....

Let's put a pro rider with 2 paddles against some 4 year olds with 6-7 and once the better guy wins i'm going to say that everyone on earth should run 2 paddles or they are just an ignorant prick....M'kay?

I'm just saying I run 8 paddles and i don't lose to other 400's no matter what paddles they are running, if i jump on our 450(not my bike but one of the bikes in the garage.....Don't want to anger 250rboy) with 9 paddles.....I don't lose to anything but a better built 450 w/ engine mods or a built banshee.

You run your 6 i'll run my 8 and my riding ability will put me in first anyways.

Are you Ilovestrippers brother? What a joke you are.

[250r4life]

Originally posted by Kracker
Are you Ilovestrippers brother? What a joke you are.

ha ha ha... oh man, that caught me off guard and had me laughing pretty good...

[250r4life]

Originally posted by Kracker
Are you Ilovestrippers brother? What a joke you are.

ha ha ha... oh man, that caught me off guard and had me laughing pretty good...

[250r4life]

Originally posted by Kracker
Are you Ilovestrippers brother? What a joke you are.

ha ha ha... oh man, that caught me off guard and had me laughing pretty good...

[z400roosteR]

Originally posted by 250r4life
so you went and updated your sig huh- my bad... you ever thought about getting those 14 paddle extremes? :devil:

in all seriousness, there is actually a guy in my group that has pretty much the exact set up that you have (only his is an athena 434 kit- not sure how you got the extra cc)... im not sure which stage cam he has in there, nor what compression he is running, but it is a pretty fast bike...

over new years we were sitting at the hill one night racing, and me and several other guys from my group were down shooting the hill, and got into some pretty good and large heats... well, he was getting smoked... he is probably 35-40 years old, and probably weighs 220-230.

me and the guys from our group went back to the top the rest and chill with the rest of our group, and when i started putting my helmet on a couple minutes later for round 2, he told me to go ride his bike as he wanted to see what it could do with him on it... with my experience of riding a couple piped z400s, and racing several, i was like "frick- im gunna get smoked..." i will admit, that i wouldnt have beleived that bike was as fast as it was until i had ridden it. it was not as fast as my YFZ, but i was right there with or beating several 450s and raptor 700s...

of course some of that was rider, but i was impressed with how fast it was... night and day difference over just a pipe... the next day my buddy who is porbably a little better rider than i am hopped on it and raced me on my YFZ, and i beat him up the hill, but only by a couple bike lengths... not by half the hill that it would have been with just a pipe...

Z400 rooster- i may act like a punk on here, but i do tell the truth and call it how i see it... i play a lot of devils advocate and just call out what i know not to be true... i dont BS

I'm not here to brawl, and as for the "435" in my sig i just rounded up a cc...like yamaha did on the 450 when it was released cause it was a 439(correct me if i'm wrong) and they just made it a true 450 like 2 years ago....I just recently added those mods, thats why i updated the sig....I haven't gotten the chance to run it on the sand yet with the new mods.

And it's good to hear what it's capable of, i agree with your last line i kind of run the same way around here...

As for kracker...........Who the **** is ilovestrippers? i honestly have no clue what your talking about. Please enlighten me.

[AceLtz]

Ive owned reuglar 8 paddle haulers and even those are too much. Yes they hook up better BUT YOU DONT ALWAYS WANT THAT. Thats what you need to understand. When you start out....notice how you probably rev the crap out of your engine and dump it? so the rpms can get up. I dont have to do that. The instant i get on the throttle the tires spin until im way up in the rpm range and by then im gone. Your bike struggles to spin those at the beginning of a race and by the time you start to get going somone with less paddles has already left you. You say youve beaten everyone....well whoopdedoo for you. That simply means that your a better rider. The tires dont make that much of a difference but 8s are definetly NOT better in anyway unless you have ALOT of hp.

Also on the flats. You CANNOT spin those tires fast enought to create no drag. Thier going to slow you down. Im not saying this as an opinion or speculation but a fact. Ive tried both and swapped tires with people. The 6 paddle dominates 8 especially on the flats.

And if you want to talk about duning, 6 paddles win there also. 8s are a biatch to turn and whip with. The 6s will swing right around with a blip of the throttle. More paddles doesnt always mean better.

Boom.....heres some 6s for ya.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b292/aceaspades909/IMG_9617.jpg

[z400roosteR]

Originally posted by AceLtz
Ive owned reuglar 8 paddle haulers and even those are too much. Yes they hook up better BUT YOU DONT ALWAYS WANT THAT. Thats what you need to understand. When you start out....notice how you probably rev the crap out of your engine and dump it? so the rpms can get up. I dont have to do that. The instant i get on the throttle the tires spin until im way up in the rpm range and by then im gone. Your bike struggles to spin those at the beginning of a race and by the time you start to get going somone with less paddles has already left you. You say youve beaten everyone....well whoopdedoo for you. That simply means that your a better rider. The tires dont make that much of a difference but 8s are definetly NOT better in anyway unless you have ALOT of hp.

Also on the flats. You CANNOT spin those tires fast enought to create no drag. Thier going to slow you down. Im not saying this as an opinion or speculation but a fact. Ive tried both and swapped tires with people. The 6 paddle dominates 8 especially on the flats. ....
And if you want to talk about duning, 6 paddles win there also. 8s are a biatch to turn and whip with. The 6s will swing right around with a blip of the throttle. More paddles doesnt always mean better.

Boom.....heres some 6s for ya.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b292/aceaspades909/IMG_9617.jpg
Understandable, I personally will keep my 8's i have NO problems whipping and sliding my bike around like others claim. I have heard people say straight paddles suck cause you can't slide around and carve ****....But i have no problems personally...Just takes getting used to, clutch-gas-body position! If you have ridden a two stroke then jump on a 4stroke(even if it's over paddled like your saying) it's not a problem to cut them loose....And at a race, i don't rev to the moon and dump it..Just like a street bike rev mid range and a quick slip of the clutch and gas it on top of that and you get a healthy start, it's when third gear hits the ****in 450's start passin LoL.
Now i can't wait to try out the new mods.

[AceLtz]

Originally posted by z400roosteR
Understandable, I personally will keep my 8's i have NO problems whipping and sliding my bike around like others claim.

6's are alot easier, all im saying.


Originally posted by z400roosteR
Just like a street bike rev mid range and a quick slip of the clutch and gas it on top of that and you get a healthy start, it's when third gear hits the ****in 450's start passin LoL.
[/B]

No kidding? Could that be because they have more power to spin thier tires faster? Which means you dont have enough power to spin your tires to thier same speed?......Dont argue.

[z400roosteR]

Originally posted by AceLtz
6's are alot easier, all im saying.



No kidding? Could that be because they have more power to spin thier tires faster? Which means you dont have enough power to spin your tires to thier same speed?......Dont argue.

I think i know what you mean but i'm not 100%clear, so elaborate for me.

[250r4life]

come to think of it, i let it slide that you said you play devils advocate, but you need to know what you are talking about to do that, and you dont...

you just said that you barely got the big bore kit on and havent had it in the sand... with this big bore you will still be over-paddled, and you will have tons more power than before, so holy cow- you over-paddled the crap out of your piped z 400...

you have pretty much just been running your mouth... like i said before on here- youre just a kid running his mouth...

[Speed_MDS2]

Originally posted by 250r4life
come to think of it, i let it slide that you said you play devils advocate, but you need to know what you are talking about to do that, and you dont...

you just said that you barely got the big bore kit on and havent had it in the sand... with this big bore you will still be over-paddled, and you will have tons more power than before, so holy cow- you over-paddled the crap out of your piped z 400...

you have pretty much just been running your mouth... like i said before on here- youre just a kid running his mouth...

Is this all you do every day? Clicking from one post to the next looking for your next chance to argue with others? You sound like you know quite abit about alot of things, but it seems like every post you make is you goin back and forth with someone about who is right. Almost every topic you post in ends up being an arguement. Take some time off playing "devils advocate" and go out and ride your toys!

[250r4life]

Originally posted by Speed_MDS2
Is this all you do every day? Clicking from one post to the next looking for your next chance to argue with others? You sound like you know quite abit about alot of things, but it seems like every post you make is you goin back and forth with someone about who is right. Almost every topic you post in ends up being an arguement. Take some time off playing "devils advocate" and go out and ride your toys!

i was at the dunes from friday till sunday... :D

people come here for info, and so when people who dont know sit there and spread false info, it just screws up other people as well... yah, z400 was actually starting to concede, there is just something in me that just had to call out past stuff... i probably should have just let it go...

i hate to have to waste money, and so try and help other people from wasting money by buying one thing, only to find out later they would have been better off buying something else... (8 paddle extremes for a z400 in this instance)...

[z400roosteR]

Originally posted by 250r4life
i was at the dunes from friday till sunday... :D

people come here for info, and so when people who dont know sit there and spread false info, it just screws up other people as well... yah, z400 was actually starting to concede, there is just something in me that just had to call out past stuff... i probably should have just let it go...

i hate to have to waste money, and so try and help other people from wasting money by buying one thing, only to find out later they would have been better off buying something else... (8 paddle extremes for a z400 in this instance)...

Uhm.....Good one?:huh :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Not really.

But like i said talk **** on everything cause you THINK i "overpaddled", grow up.

[250r4life]

does anybody else think that 8 paddle extremes are too much for a z400?

[FUELATV]

YES ...... WAY TOO MUCH PADDLE evn for a big bore z400 IMO.

[250r4life]

well lets see, just in this thread FUELATV, Kennerz, Kracker, JA_Lopezjr, and AceLTZ have already agreed with me... im sure there are plently more...

[Speed_MDS2]

Yes, 8 paddles are way to much for a z400.

[z400roosteR]

That's cool, for some reason it's *POPULAR* to run 6 paddles on a ltr450.... go look at the yamaha's and trx's All i am seeing is 8-9's. I'm done arguing....your OPINION is NOT fact.

[250r4life]

well, thats cuz
A- the hondas and yamahas produce more power
2- your z400 isnt even a 450
D- lots of people over paddle their bikes...

[AceLtz]

Originally posted by 250r4life
well, thats cuz
A- the hondas and yamahas produce more power
2- your z400 isnt even a 450
D- lots of people over paddle their bikes...

BINGO!

Most people think that the more paddles they can stuff under thier bike, the faster they go.....the more they "hook up." YOu "hook up" just perfectly with somthing less than 8 paddles you want some slippage anyway.....But argue what you want, i guess a whole bunch of people who seem to know alot about quads mean nothing to you.

[z400roosteR]

I run the my bike the way the professionals recommended. Look at Cascade Innovations and tell me you know more about duning then they do.....And since you prolly think you do then just say so, cause i need another good laugh.

:rolleyes:

[250r4life]

Originally posted by z400roosteR
I run the my bike the way the professionals recommended. Look at Cascade Innovations and tell me you know more about duning then they do.....And since you prolly think you do then just say so, cause i need another good laugh.

:rolleyes:


just cuz they make shiny parts for sand doesnt mean that they are the expert on it...

yah, the 17 year old they have working the phones is an expert- youre right...

and since they probably make the highest gross off that particular tire set up, im sure they have no other motive in selling you on it...

until here recently you had a stock piped z400, and you were trying to sell us on the idea that it 8 paddle extremes werent too much, and that cuz of your riding ability you smoke eveybody...

speaking of another good laugh...

you cant beleive everything you hear... even from the so called "professionals"

[AceLtz]

You really need to stop being so ignorant. So, your basing all your info on what parts other people have? Since alot of people have alot of paddles you have to too? If everyone was like you we'd all have the same parts. Stop being so stupid and accept the fact that you're not right here.

Who cares what the companies use on thier show bikes. I think alot of paddles looks cool. Thats why they do it. Look at alba, half thier bikes have sandstars and everyone knows those tires suck. Good job, base your info off magazines and what other people do...that'll get you somwhere. :rolleyes:

[z400roosteR]

Originally posted by AceLtz
You really need to stop being so ignorant. So, your basing all your info on what parts other people have? Since alot of people have alot of paddles you have to too? If everyone was like you we'd all have the same parts. Stop being so stupid and accept the fact that you're not right here.

Who cares what the companies use on thier show bikes. I think alot of paddles looks cool. Thats why they do it. Look at alba, half thier bikes have sandstars and everyone knows those tires suck. Good job, base your info off magazines and what other people do...that'll get you somwhere. :rolleyes:

Talk about being ignorant........Did i say anything about how their bikes looked? You ****ing dumb ***, i go to that shop, it is about 6miles from my house....They along with another place Recommended the 8, It has nothing to do with their bikes.

And i run the same parts as everyone else? Your one to talk running the yosh setup like everyone and their mother does.

[250r4life]

Ace... its no use... ive talked to brick walls with more intelligence...

[AceLtz]

ok this is my last post since your way too much of an idiot to actually learn anything. You saw that alot of other people run 8s....so you run them too. What other people run doesnt mean a thing. What works best is what counts. Ive seen people running 10+ paddles on stockish bikes, does that mean i will too? No. You DO NOT understand how tires work and why people go less or more paddles. Your basing all your info off "professionals" and what some other people use.

Alot of places reccomend crap they dont know anything about. A huge place near me had over 4 people that reccomended 10 paddles for the ltr. But ok, since your the smartest one here based on your vast knowledge of quads. Make your own decision I dont care anymore.

And about the yoshimura. I bought it because it was the first pipe out for the ltr. THE DAY it came to yoshimuras main plant here in california, before any stores had them anywhere, I had bought it. Which means that besides thier factory riders I was one of the very very few who had them. K you can shut your mouth now.

[z400roosteR]

I am sure they recommended 10 paddles, or your just saying that for the sake of the argument. anyways.....I didn't run them cause i saw other people running 8's. I asked a wide range of people including the people that got me into the sport( and when they are killing damn near every person out there i tend to take their advise:D ) but i can post vid after vid of this exact argument with me on the 8paddle 400 winning and the 450's w/ 9 killing ALL DAY LONG.


P.S I love you Ace:blah:

[250r4life]

post up the videos

[Kracker]

Yeah, little guy. Post up those vids. LOL.

[AceLtz]

I couldnt help myself. I just now noticed that the 8s you have are extremes! lol this is really funny. Thats even more paddle than regular haulers. Your running an equivalent to a 9 or 10 paddle haulers!

Just had to add that because your even more overpaddled. Yea im pretty much done since i could probably teach a 4 year old easier. Post up the vids though. Im really interested to see you beating people on a 450 who dont know how to ride.

[bwamos]

Hey, I run 25" 16 paddle extreme hauler mohawks on my 330ex. I top out at about 35mph, but I have awsome traction...

Ok not really.. I run 20" 6-paddle glider hawks.. lol. The knobbies are there to help keep the parking lot run from tearing up the paddles as badly.

From FuelATV's photos.. the 6-paddle hauler type (one's defintley not skat, the other looks like a skat) look about perfect. That sand he was on was very fine and dry. A coarser wetter sand like or oregon dunes, you could get away with 8's a lot easier. But IMHO I would agree that 8 Paddle Extremes are still too much.

(Yes, I have ridden in Glamis, Oregon ORV Area, and in Wynoka, OK)

[FUELATV]

Yeah .... those are 6 cup comp cut paddla brats. They are made by sand tires unlimited and then comp cut by fullerton sand tires. They are 5 LBS lighter per tire then a 6 cup hauler.